A little static. 有点静。 Many people are digesting the Zhang Ye words, in principle mentality. 很多人都在消化张烨的话,在理思路。 Zhang Ye said: „Everybody ponders over, I also drink water, he he.” 张烨说:“大家琢磨琢磨,我也喝口水,呵呵。” Zhang Ye takes the drinking glass to come up, twists off the cover of insulated cup, inside is the pu-erh tea, when comes just soaked with the teacher office, the water temperature is very hot, the tea leaves entrance, is not very fragrant, but is mellow, he likes the taste of ripe Pu'er, is drinking, not only in the winter warm stomach, but also is helpful to helping him relax the spiritual adjustment mentality. Naturally, Zhang Ye also very much has relaxed actually, on the stage, in several thousand people of conference sites, these many reporters, these many cameras, these many student Teacher, the Literature colleague who these many undermines, he is not obstinately anxious, the expression that relaxed drinks tea easely, on the one's own head, looks at such probably, if gives him a bed to place on the stage he to dare upward to lie down. 张烨是拿着水杯上来的,拧开保温杯的盖子,里面是普洱茶,过来时刚跟教师办公室泡好的,水温还很热,茶叶入口,不是很香但非常醇厚,他喜欢熟普洱的味儿,喝着不但在冬天暖胃,还有助于帮他放松精神调整思路。当然,张烨其实一直也很放松,在台上,在几千人的会场中,这么多记者,这么多摄像机,这么多学生老师,还有这么多来拆台的文学界同行,他愣是一点也不紧张,那轻松悠然喝茶的表情,好像是在自己家炕头上似的,看那样子,要是给他一张床放在台上他真敢往上躺啊。 Only is this calm, few personally can achieve. 光是这份淡定,就没几个人做得到。 Has changed other Peking University lecturer, did not say the lecturer, even if these year to year do the course to do the public class professors, facing such big weaponry, must have a little anxious and urgent. 换了别的北大讲师,不说讲师,就算那些常年搞讲座搞公开课的教授们,面对这么大的阵仗,也得有那么一点紧张和紧迫啊。 But Zhang Ye does not have. 可张烨没有。 This is a specialized Host basic quality. 这就是一个专业主持人的基本素质。 Inside more also has the reason on Zhang Ye disposition he is such a mindless mentality. The heaven has not given him good facial features, has not given him a good stature, but there are to lose, this calm and does not have stage fright, probably is to his compensation. 里面更多的也有张烨性格上的原因他一直都是这么个没心没肺的心态。老天没有给他一副好面容,也没有给他一个好身材,但有失有得,这份从容和不怯场,大概就是对他的补偿吧。 The water drinks up. 水喝完。 The curriculum continues. 课程继续。 Zhang Ye is holding the microphone, asked: „These structural problem and analysis that I explained a moment ago about «Dream of the Red Chamber», what question do the schoolmates have?” 张烨扶着话筒,问道:“我刚才解释的这些关于《红楼梦》的结构问题和分析,同学们还有什么疑问吗？” Nobody spoke. 没人说话。 „Little Song?” Zhang Ye roll-call. “小宋？”张烨点名。 Senior Song sets out saying: „I must digest first.” 宋学姐起身道:“我得先消化一下。” Zhang Ye selected usually to like speaking, „Little Zhou?” 张烨又点了个平时爱发言的,“小周？” School leader Zhou smiles bitterly saying: „I must listen again, temporarily does not speak.” 周学长苦笑道:“我也还得再听听,暂时不发言了。” Smiles, Zhang Ye said: „Good, my then I must speak......” 一笑,张烨道:“那好,我接下来我要讲一下……” „Waits.” Hong studies expert Teacher Yang of first row of seat has made noise finally, he from the beginning suppresses the tail, then also has no alternative but to stand, otherwise at the scene looks, was their this group of Senior experts by a junior saying the corona, where making their faces toward put, thereupon, even if were Teacher Yang has not had the research to the issue of red chamber structure, he also refuted with the one's own way, avoided the structure, has traded a method, lifted the microphone to sit there [say / way]: „Your so-called Dream of the Red Chamber nine ride 12 structures, I beg to differ, structure dividing line that you said that possibly is only some coincidences, after cannot prove 80, is not Cao Xueqin writes, the red educational world early has the conclusion, when Mr. Cao Xueqin was the old age was seriously ill or other reasons, writing has made some mistakes, reason that this was also in Jia Baoyu disposition has the change.” “等一等。”第一排座位的红学专家杨老师终于出声了,他是从头憋到尾,这下也不能不站出来了,否则场面上看,是他们这帮前辈专家被一个小辈给说晕了啊,让他们的面子往哪里放,于是乎,即便是杨老师没有对红楼结构的问题有过研究,他也用自己的方式反驳了,避开结构,换了一种方法,举着话筒坐在那里道:“你所谓的红楼梦九乘12的结构,我是不敢苟同,你说的结构分野,可能只是一些巧合,并不能证明80回后不是曹雪芹所写,红学界早有过定论,曹雪芹先生是晚年病重或其他原因,书写时犯了些错误,这也是贾宝玉性格上有变化的原因。” Zhang Ye said with a smile: „How red educational world studies, drew what kind of conclusion, I do not know that I do not approve, my viewpoint is just the opposite with everybody, Mr. Cao Xueqin is not affected much, in the book these logical issues are not he are seriously ill subsequently the silly reason, 108 unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber» are also exists, Cao Xueqin had finished roughly, this from me yesterday that class observes in Mingyi's poem to see richly.” 张烨笑道:“红学界怎么研究的,得出了怎么样的结论,我不知道,我也不认可,我的观点跟大家恰恰相反,曹雪芹先生并无大碍,书中那些逻辑问题不是他病重继而糊涂的原因,108回的全本《红楼梦》也是存在的,曹雪芹已经大体写完了,这从我昨天那节课的富察明义的诗中就可以看到。” Teacher Yang is his these words, he he smiles, asked back: „Good, since you said that then I want to ask, you say nowadays «Dream of the Red Chamber», only then the first 80 chapters are Cao Xueqin's original pens, Mr. Cao not the reason on body will also violate some preliminarily wrong, that line, we deferred to your mentality saying that first 80, you just said that can you explain?” 杨老师等的就是他这句话,呵呵一笑,反问道:“那好,既然你这么说了,那么我就想问了,你说现今的《红楼梦》只有前80回是曹雪芹的原笔,曹先生也并无身体上的原因而会犯一些低级错误,那行啊,咱们就按照你的思路就说一说前80回,你刚说了,你都能解释？” The Zhang Ye Tanzania said: „Naturally.” 张烨坦言道:“当然。” Another youth Redologists said: „Do you determine?” 另一个青年红学家道:“你确定吗？” „He He, I am very definite, you can ask.” Zhang Ye it does not matter said: „But there is words I to say first in front, was roughly first 80, but was not 80.” “呵呵,我很确定,你们可以问。”张烨无所谓道:“但是有句话我先说在前面,是大体前80回,而不是80回。” Teacher Yang snorts contemptuously, said: „Good, Lin Ruhai's death time, how did you explain?” 杨老师嗤之以鼻,道:“好,那林如海的死亡时间,你怎么解释？” Youth Redologists also aggravates the situation saying: „I also asked one, Qin Keqing fell ill the death and atlas verdict balances wu, how did this say?” 那青年红学家也火上浇油道:“我也问一个,秦可卿生病死亡和图册判词相抵牾,这怎么说？” Zhang Ye had not replied, but said: „? Can say together.” 张烨没回答,而是道:“还有吗？可以一起说。” Literature status highest Yan Yu on the scene also spoke, „Jia mother birthday issue, as well as Jia Baoyu's age issue that thus involves.” 在场文学界身份最高的严玉也说话了,“贾母的生日问题,以及从而牵扯到的贾宝玉的年龄问题。” One collection of issues lost! 一堆问题都丢了过来！ This all was the nowadays red educational world cannot explain! 这全是现今红学界根本解释不了的！ Good, you did not say that can explain? You explained to us! 好啊,你不是放话说都能解释吗？那你给我们解释解释！ At this moment, coming field the public figure in Literature first time to launch an attack to Zhang Ye finally, in the structural problem, they could not find any breach to attack Zhang Ye originally, because Zhang Ye really surprised them too, in very perfect, even was it can be said that penetrating, once again might be considered as the great breakthrough that in Hong studies research in this structure dividing line said that therefore they could not find the attack to give a pretext, but in their opinion, Zhang Ye was too extremely arrogant, actually said that all logical issues he can explain, then, the person of Literature also had the breach! 这一刻,来场的文学界的人士终于第一次对张烨发难了,本来在结构问题上,他们还找不到什么突破口攻击张烨,因为张烨实在让他们太意外了,在这个结构分野上说的十分完美,甚至可以说是精辟,又一次堪称是红学研究上的重大突破,所以他们真找不到攻击借口,但在他们看来,张烨却太狂妄了,竟然放话说所有逻辑问题他都能解释的了,这下,文学界的人也有了突破口！ Probably 78 issues, all are the significant logical errors, moreover is that dead issue, studies many year also non-solutions, how they want to take a look at Zhang Ye to say! 大概78个问题,全都是重大的逻辑错误,而且是那种死问题,研究多少年也无解的,他们想看看张烨怎么说！ The Peking University students are also in a tumult. 北大学生们也骚动起来。 „Must go bad!” “要坏啊！” „This group of Redologists take action!” “这帮红学家出手了！” „Teacher Zhang explained? Is impossible!” “张老师解释的了吗？不可能啊！” „Was in sharp opposition, this was interesting!” “针锋相对起来了啊,这才有意思！” „Is Teacher Zhang Ye good?” “张烨老师到底行不行啊？” Some students are very excited, are waiting for watching the fun. Yao Mi and other students are very sad, is looking at Zhang Ye with a look of worry. Even school leader Zhou and other have wanted to find the opportunity to refute the student of Zhang Ye argument in the inquiry, is worried for Zhang Ye that indeed, school leader Zhou they suspects the viewpoint of Zhang Ye very much, but the matter in that in the final analysis their one's own class and grade, is their students' exchange with a Teacher, in a Literature difference that Peking University has, the person but who that helps Literature is a bystander, comes „to wreck the event”, school leader Zhou they are also good, Zhang Ye, is the Peking University person, the mood of showing no external differences has. 有的学生很激动,等着看热闹。姚蜜等一些学生则很忧愁,用一种担心的眼神望着张烨。甚至于周学长等几个一直在提问一直想找机会反驳张烨论点的学生,也都替张烨担心起来,诚然,周学长他们是很怀疑张烨的观点,可那归根结底还是他们自己班级里的事情,是他们学生跟老师的一个交流,是在北大内部发生的一个文学分歧,但那帮文学界的人是外人,是来“砸场子”的,周学长他们也好,张烨也罢,都是北大的人,一致对外的情绪还是有的。 Zhang Ye has a look at them, „these?” 张烨看看他们,“就这些吧？” Professor Ma Hengyuan sneers saying: „You replied first these said again.” 马恒元教授冷笑道:“你先回答这几个再说。” Zhang Ye nods, „good, I replied, but the issue of Vice-President Yan, I put first temporarily, front I replied first.” 张烨点点头,“好,那我就回答一下,不过严副主席的问题,我先暂时放一放,我先回答前面的。” Yan Yu took a look at his one eyes. 严玉瞅了他一眼。 Teacher Yang said: „Ok, you said that we are listening.” 杨老师道:“行,你说我们听着。” Nobody believes Zhang Ye can explain! 没有人相信张烨能解释的了！ They do not know that Zhang Ye already guessed correctly they will ask these things, the Hong studies research on such three broad-ax, logical error also such several, asked after all cannot ask other comes, is good to guess very much, „everybody please look at the screen, first looked the material that I give.” Zhang Ye and Peking University staff exchanged, the opposite party had found the material that brought immediately, put in the projection to hit. 他们不知道,张烨早就猜到他们会问这些东西了,毕竟红学研究就那么三板斧,逻辑错误也就那么几个,问也问不出别的来,好猜得很,“大家请看屏幕,先看一下我给出的这个资料。”张烨和北大工作人员交流了一下,对方立即找到拿来的资料,放到了投影上打出来。 Two young ladies? 二小姐？ Jia Yingchun material? 贾迎春的资料？ The Zhang Ye vision sweeps the people, said: „Jia Yingchun this person everybody is very familiar, her family background issue, everybody should also know, but I Believe has studied the «Dream of the Red Chamber» person truly, the discoveries, that will be in the old book that several will spread, the life experience description about Jia Yingchun completely will be unexpectedly different, my material will be records in several old book, everybody will come to see.” 张烨目光一扫众人,道:“贾迎春这个人大家都很熟悉,她的出身问题,大家应该也知道,但是我相信真正研究过《红楼梦》的人,都会有一个发现,那就是几个流传下来的古本中,关于贾迎春的身世描写竟然完全不一样,我这里的资料是几个古本中的记载,大家来看。” Two young ladies are the amnesty father ex-wife. 二小姐乃赦老爹前妻所出。 Two young ladies are amnesty father's wife. 二小姐乃赦老爹之妻所出。 Two young ladies are the political father ex-wife. 二小姐乃政老爹前妻所出。 Two young ladies are amnesty father's concubine. 二小姐乃赦老爹之妾所出。 Two young ladies are amnesty father's daughter, the political father raise for oneself female. 二小姐乃赦老爹之女,政老爹养为己女。 How many Redologists frown, cannot come Zhang Ye why to give this material, two, this is they not familiar domain, these things they truly have looked, for example Yan Yu, for example Teacher Yang, even Ma Hengyuan knows, because quite leaning, Jia Yingchun in their opinion is not the specially important role, therefore now red educational world to its research are not many, moreover because also the «Dream of the Red Chamber» logical issue were too many, has other bigger logical errors to make them discover and study, who also worries about to discuss it does not matter a life experience issue of character? This Zhang Ye, gives domain that always they do not excel at? 几个红学家都蹙眉不已,一来不懂张烨为什么给出这份资料,二来,这还是他们不熟悉的领域,这些东西他们确实看过,比如严玉,比如杨老师,甚至马恒元都知道,但因为比较偏,贾迎春在他们看来也不是特别重要的角色,于是当今红学界对其研究的不多,而且也因为《红楼梦》的逻辑问题太多了,有更多更大的其他逻辑错误去引着他们发现和研究,谁还顾得上去讨论一个无所谓的人物的身世问题？这个张烨啊,怎么给出的老是他们不擅长的领域？ Zhang Ye said that access road: „Five old book descriptions is different, we know that red chamber the source of old book well-founded, was this copies out wrongly copies? Obviously is not, if in the first four old books were the slip of the pen has wrongly copied, then the fifth old book such long a few words, how can be the won ton misread? This is completely impossible, causes the only explanation of this complex result is, this is Cao Xueqin is considering repeatedly, back and forth in changing, has not thought that has not finalized, will therefore spread these many completely different old books, this I Believe does not have the question!” 张烨说完,便道:“五个古本描写的都不一样,我们知道,红楼的古本的出处都是有根据的,这是手抄抄错了吗？显然不是,如果前四个古本中是笔误抄错了,那么第五个古本这么长一段话,怎么会是抄手看错了？这完全不可能,导致这种复杂结果的唯一解释就是,这是曹雪芹在反复斟酌,来回来去地在修改,还没有想好,还没有定稿,所以才会流传下来这么多完全不同的古本,这个我相信是没有疑问的！” Professor Zeng slight bow. 曾教授微微点头。 Teacher Yang and Ma Hengyuan do not have the expression, calmly sits. 杨老师和马恒元没有表情,静静而坐。 Zhang Ye said: „Then there is this foundation and a cognition, everybody's issue has been easily solved, Cao Xueqin was not the sickness rewrites chaotically, can some everybody's so-called logical errors in the introduction, how an introduction be seriously ill are not good? Was the brain silly? Therefore, this is Cao Xueqin did not have changing to end actually, has not finalized completely, Lin Ruhai's death time issue, Qin Keqing's sick death and fifth atlas verdict issue, these to put it bluntly were the knottiness issue, that also merely was involves some result changing and simple textual changes of individual character!” 张烨道:“那么有了这个基础和认知,大家刚才的问题就都迎刃而解了,曹雪芹不是病重写乱了,有些大家所谓的逻辑错误就在开篇啊,怎么会一开篇就病重不行了？脑子糊涂了？所以,这其实是曹雪芹还没有修改完,还没有完全定稿,林如海的死亡时间问题,秦可卿的生病死亡和第五回的图册判词问题,这些说穿了都属于枝节性问题,那也不过仅仅是涉及到个别人物的结局修改和一些简单的文字改动罢了！” Teacher Yang refutes saying: „You did not say that 108 «Dream of the Red Chamber» did finish?” 杨老师驳道:“你不是说108回的《红楼梦》写完了吗？” „Had finished, finished approximately.” Zhang Ye said: „But finished does not represent has finalized, believes the friend who has written should have the experience in this aspect, writing a book the person on the scene are many, I by chance am also an author, therefore I very clear inside thing, even if did not say writing a book, the schoolmate present should also be have profound understanding, you write the thesis time, writes the paper time, after finishing to finish, finalized?” “是写完了,大致写完了。”张烨道:“但写完并不代表就定稿了,相信写过书的朋友应该都有这方面的经验吧,在场写书的人不少,我恰巧也是个作者,所以我很清楚里面的东西,就算不说写书,在座的同学应该也能深有体会,你们写作文的时候,写论文的时候,写完结束后难道就定稿了？” The Peking University students shake the head. 北大学生都摇头。 „Cannot.” “不会。” „Yes, but must changing.” “是啊,还得修改呢。” „Um, must turn head to look again several, decorates again.” “嗯,肯定得回头再看几遍,再修饰。” Zhang Ye smiles, „Cao Xueqin is also this.” 张烨笑笑,“曹雪芹也是这样的。” Teacher Yang lets somebody cool off or calm down says with a smile: „If such explained that after 80 chapters of logical issues can also say that how can show that was two people writes?” 杨老师冷冷笑道:“那要是这么解释的话,80回后的逻辑问题也可以这么说啊,如何能证明是两个人写的？” Zhang Ye swung waving the hand, said: „It is not this, completely is not a concept, after 80 chapters of logical errors, do not change several character several paragraphs to be able the circle to come back purely, that involves book the issue of conception, related to the mistake of core idea, we are very difficult to believe that Cao Xueqin planned wrote Jia Residence ‚to fall the piece white earth to be really clean’, actually suddenly then wants to write the Jia Residence revival of the family fortune \; Jia mother is an affection old grandmother, the author actually suddenly wants to turn into a callous guardian her \; Jia Baoyu originally ‚world incompetent first, past and present unfilial unparalleled’, the author actually suddenly wants to make him bring honor to ancestors, we are very more difficult to believe that Cao Xueqin will look through the person of humans affair from one, suddenly transforms one to crave in the role that the academic honor, brings honor to ancestors!” 张烨摇了摇手,道:“可不是这样的,完全不是一个概念,80回后的逻辑错误,并不是单纯改几个字几个段落就能圆回来的,那可是涉及到全书的构想的问题,涉及到核心思想的错误,我们很难相信,曹雪芹原打算写贾府‘落了片白茫茫大地真干净’,却忽然转而想写贾府家道复兴\;贾母原本是一个慈爱的老祖母,作者却忽然想把她变成一个冷酷的家长\;贾宝玉本来‘天下无能第一,古今不肖无双’,作者却忽然想让他光宗耀祖起来,我们更很难相信,曹雪芹会从一个看破世事的人,忽然转变成一个热衷于功名、光宗耀祖的角色！” Zhang Ye several aggravate the intonation the parallelism sentence, makes these Redologists have nothing to say in reply unexpectedly! 张烨的几个加重语调的排比句,竟让那些红学家无言以对！ Zhang Ye said: „When everybody writes the paper, turns head to meet the changing minor details, will change the writing, will adjust some ical errors, but, will you change the core idea and central viewpoint of paper? Is impossible! Therefore makes the excuse with this, could not convince!” 张烨道:“大家写论文时,回头过去会修改细枝末节,会改文字,会调整一些书写错误,可是,你们会将论文的核心思想和中心观点改掉吗？不可能！所以拿这个做说辞,是根本说不通的！” Explained really! 真的解释出来了！ Moreover explained is fair! 而且解释得合情合理！ The Teacher Yang a little face sinks, Meng Dongguo also pupil one cold, they have not expected, this Zhang Ye facing the mistake that these cannot explain, the content from the book did not say, but has changed an angle once more, unexpectedly the logical mentality that writes from an author explains! 杨老师有点脸沉,孟东国也眸子一冷,他们又没料到,这次张烨面对这些根本解释不了的错误,又不从书中内容说了,而是再次换了一个角度,居然从一个作者写作的逻辑思路上解释了！ Good to open mouth! 好一张嘴啊！ Good iron teeth copper tooth! 好一个铁齿铜牙！ Yan Yu narrowed the eye, „can that Jia mother issue also so explain? I am not clear, why you must take my questionnaire.” 严玉眯起了眼睛,“那贾母的问题也可以如此解释了？我不明白,为什么你要把我的问题单拿出来。” Zhang Ye said with a smile: „If I am an ordinary reader, the author who the ordinary researcher, Jia mother age issue can such explain has come and changing, everybody definitely can also accept this explanation, does not need to get to the bottom to move unnecessarily again, but I cannot, because my present status is Teacher, I must be rigorous on the learning, reason that Jia mother issue I the single row leaves, because situation of Jia mother is quite special, cannot be generally spoken with the beforehand these explanations, if I said that that is irresponsible to my students!” 张烨笑道:“如果我是个普通读者,普通研究者,贾母的年龄问题是可以这么解释的作者来没来的及修改,大家肯定也能接受这个解释,不用再刨根问底多此一举,但是我不能,因为我现在的身份是个老师,在学术上我必须严谨,贾母的问题我之所以单列出来讲,因为贾母的情况比较特殊,不能跟之前的那些解释一概而论,我要是这么说了,那是对我的学生们不负责任！” „Special?” “特殊？” „Is where was special?” “是哪里特殊了？” „Is feeling same?” “感觉都一样啊？” „Yes, Jia mother is not the birthday the age issue?” “是啊,贾母不也是生日啊年龄啊的问题吗？” The Peking University students said. 北大学生们都说了起来。 Zhang Ye said in detail that „this, if everybody did not raise, I do not want to say that but since spoke, I say, was the issue of Jia mother birthday, 71 ‚in August 3 rd date’? 62 ‚has Lantern Festival, been the old woman and valuable elder sister’? These two original texts completely are Mao Dun, but, according to my research, according to tallying of Baochai birthday, I judged 62 ‚Lantern Festival’ the birthday with the birthday that the life prototype agreed. Another reason is 39 th has Jia mother words: ‚Old parents of son or daughter-in-law, you this year how old?’ Liu Grandma is busy at setting up the body to reply: ‚I this year 75.’ Jia mother also said: ‚Such big age, but also is so healthy. Compared with me greatly am several years old. I must arrive at such big age, has not known how unable to move.’ Also indicates Jia mother age not over 74 years old. But 71 writing were actually ‚in August 3 rd date are celebration of Jia mother eighty years of age’!” 张烨详细道来,“这一块如果大家不提的话,我本来是不想讲的,但既然说到了,我就讲一讲,贾母生日的问题,到底是71回的‘八月初三日’呢？还是62回的‘过了灯节,就是老太太和宝姐姐’呢？这两个原文完全是茅盾的,但是,根据我的研究,根据宝钗生日的吻合,我判断62回的‘过了灯节’的生日才是与生活原型吻合的生日。另外一个理由是第39回有贾母的话:‘老亲家,你今年多大年纪了？’刘姥姥忙立身答道:‘我今年75了。’贾母又说:‘这么大年纪了,还这么健朗。比我大好几岁呢。我要到这么大年纪,还不知怎么动不得呢。’也表明贾母的年龄不超过74岁。而71回的文字却是‘八月初三日乃贾母八旬之庆’！” The people recalled! 众人都回忆起来了！ Really has these original text original words! 确实是有这些原文原话的！ Zhang Ye summarizes the conclusion, said: „Therefore I can affirm that in August the junior high is to arrange, 80 years old? This year the age is the leap, has conformed, fictionalizes, obviously is not Jia mother true birthday age. Therefore, 71 writing...... After is, changes, why this is also I just before everybody inquired, emphasized specially I can explain ‚roughly’ 80 logical errors, because of Cao Xueqin first 80 writing and manuscripts, there are has lost with is tampered with situation that copied by mistake, in the issue of Jia mother birthday was so, this or this returned after 80 returned lost same, was some tall Ehuo nameless person continued the one's own modification supplement! Therefore presented such significant slight defect, therefore this slight defect had to distinguish between a moment ago other slight defects, naturally must put out alone!” 张烨总结出结论,道:“所以我可以肯定,八月初三是编的,80岁？这年龄更是飞跃的、整合了的、虚构的,显然不是贾母的真正生日年龄。因此,71回的文字……是后改的,这也就是为什么我刚刚在大家提问之前,特意强调了我能解释‘大体’80回的逻辑错误,因为曹雪芹前80回的文字和稿本,也有过丢失和被人篡改跟误抄的情况,在贾母生日的问题上就是如此,这一段或者这一回跟80回后一样遗失了,是高鹗或某个无名氏续写的时候自己改动补充的！所以才出现了这么重大的瑕疵,所以这个瑕疵是有区别于刚才其他瑕疵的,自然要单独拿出来讲！” Be well-founded! 有理有据！ Has original, because! 有原有因！ Zhang Ye another secondary earthquake was occupied by all people! 张烨又一次震住了所有人！ These reporters cannot understand from the start, they have looked at «Dream of the Red Chamber», the lots that Zhang Ye said that they cannot respond for a while, thought that was too abstruse, was too fine, but they will not understand do not represent them not to watch a person's every mood, when will see these first row of Writer and Redologists expression, the reporters again silly can also look to understand, the explanation and analysis of Teacher Zhang Ye will be very powerful! 那些记者是压根听不懂的,他们就算看过《红楼梦》,张烨说的很多东西他们也是一时反应不过来,觉得太深奥了,太精细了,可是他们不懂不代表他们不会察言观色,当看到那些第一排的文学家和红学家们的表情,记者们就算再傻也能看明白了,张烨老师的解释和分析十分有力！ „The principle!” “说得在理啊！” „This also really explained smoothly!” “这样还真解释通顺了！” „After is it possible that do 80 chapters of authors have someone else really?” “莫非80回后的作者真另有其人？” Yao Mi was very happy that Hee Hee smiles, Uncle Zhang was too fierce! 姚蜜很高兴,嘻嘻笑起来,张叔叔太猛了啊！ Her nearby Li Yinghe Li Li two brothers were also said the heart to jump, the viewpoint of Teacher Zhang Ye has attacked their inherent cognition really more and more! 她旁边的李英和李立兄弟俩也被说得心头一跳,张烨老师的观点真的是越来越冲击了他们的固有认知了！ The Wu Zeqing smile did not speak. 吴则卿微笑不语。 Chang Kaige Professor Zeng they nod unceasingly. 常凯歌曾教授他们不断点头。 Other Peking University lecturers and external gulf wars also looking pensive! 其他北大的讲师和外来的历史专家们也若有所思！ Since facing the red educational world has been puzzling the logical issue, Zhang Ye unexpectedly all comes are welcome, one breath all convincing most probably! 面对红学界一直以来都困扰着的逻辑问题,张烨竟然来者不拒,一口气全给说通了大半！ Person also you of Literature have a look at me, I have a look at you. 文学界的人也你看看我,我看看你。 Yesterday looked at the course video of Peking University official site, they have not thought anything, but knows today to the scene that Zhang Ye this person was really too glib, inside had several people truly and explains being startled by the viewpoint that Zhang Ye proposed! Zhang Ye gives they they have never thought the brand-new mentality! 昨天看北大官网的讲座视频,他们还没觉得什么,但是今天到了现场才知道,张烨这人真的是太能说会道了,里面有几个人确实是被张烨提出的观点和解释给惊到了！张烨给了他们一个他们从未想过的崭新思路！ Moreover most makes these Literature public figures shocking is not analysis of Zhang Ye from each mentality explained that but is Zhang Ye regarding «Dream of the Red Chamber», unexpectedly several years twenty years of person is skillfully more familiar than their these research red chamber several years! Was this carries «Dream of the Red Chamber» from beginning to end? Zhang Ye just the analysis of lengthy speech and cited the original text, had words at fingertips and wrote with facility simply, that was does not have script, that has not looked including the screen and material has been completed to say! Then huge citation and information content, makes concrete to the detail writing is been bad by a character that Zhang Ye said! 而且最让这些文学界人士震惊的并不是张烨从各个思路上的分析解释,而是张烨对于《红楼梦》的滚瓜烂熟,竟然比他们这些研究红楼几年十几年二十几年的人还要熟悉！这是把《红楼梦》从头到尾都背下来了？张烨刚刚长篇大论的分析和引据原文,简直信手拈来,那可是都没有稿子的,那可是连屏幕和资料都没有看过脱稿说的！那么庞大的引据和信息量,偏偏具体到细节文字都被张烨说的一个字不差啊！ Several. 第几回。 Several. 第几句。 Concrete paragraph original text. 具体段落原文。 That was opens mouth said that stammered has not hit one, this rather too exaggerated in their opinion! The group of Hong studies researchers who let alone they come, can achieve the Zhang Ye degree on the entire red educational world also nobody in this! No matter Zhang Ye viewpoint is right, this person definitely is to understand «Dream of the Red Chamber», moreover possibly studies compared with their these experts in many places also wants profoundly thorough! 那是张嘴就说,磕巴都没打过一个,这在他们看来未免太夸张了！别说他们来的这帮红学研究者了,就整个红学界也没有一个人能在这一块做到张烨的程度啊！不管张烨观点对不对,这人肯定是懂《红楼梦》的,而且可能在很多地方比他们这些专家研究的还要深刻透彻！ After obtaining this fact, Literature these people, inside has 50% people of complexions not more unattractive! 得出这个事实后,文学界这些人,里面有一半人脸色都更加不好看了！ However after being embarrassed, Redologists Teacher Yang actually confident, in his opinion, Zhang Ye started, Zhang Ye that from saying that „I can explain” is unable to justify oneself, because in Redologists studies also one logical issue that never has the person to dare to ask, is the real non-solution! 不过难堪之后,红学家杨老师却还是胸有成竹,在他看来,张烨从说出那句“我都能解释的了”开始,张烨就无法自圆其说了,因为红学家研究里还有一个从来没有人敢提的逻辑问题,是真的无解的！ Slip of the pen? 笔误？ Hasn't finalized? 没定稿？ No! That issue anything did not explain! Come, Uncle Zhang was too fierce! 不！那个问题什么都解释不了！来,张叔叔太猛了啊！ Her nearby Li Yinghe Li Li two brothers were also said the heart to jump, the viewpoint of Teacher Zhang Ye has attacked their inherent cognition really more and more! 她旁边的李英和李立兄弟俩也被说得心头一跳,张烨老师的观点真的是越来越冲击了他们的固有认知了！ The Wu Zeqing smile did not speak. 吴则卿微笑不语。 Chang Kaige Professor Zeng they nod unceasingly. 常凯歌曾教授他们不断点头。 Other Peking University lecturers and external gulf wars also looking pensive! 其他北大的讲师和外来的历史专家们也若有所思！ Since facing the red educational world has been puzzling the logical issue, Zhang Ye unexpectedly all comes are welcome, one breath all convincing most probably! 面对红学界一直以来都困扰着的逻辑问题,张烨竟然来者不拒,一口气全给说通了大半！ Person also you of Literature have a look at me, I have a look at you. 文学界的人也你看看我,我看看你。 Yesterday looked at the course video of Peking University official site, they have not thought anything, but knows today to the scene that Zhang Ye this person was really too glib, inside had several people truly and explains being startled by the viewpoint that Zhang Ye proposed! Zhang Ye gives they they have never thought the brand-new mentality! 昨天看北大官网的讲座视频,他们还没觉得什么,但是今天到了现场才知道,张烨这人真的是太能说会道了,里面有几个人确实是被张烨提出的观点和解释给惊到了！张烨给了他们一个他们从未想过的崭新思路！ Moreover most makes these Literature public figures shocking is not analysis of Zhang Ye from each mentality explained that but is Zhang Ye regarding «Dream of the Red Chamber», unexpectedly several years twenty years of person is skillfully more familiar than their these research red chamber several years! Was this carries «Dream of the Red Chamber» from beginning to end? Zhang Ye just the analysis of lengthy speech and cited the original text, had words at fingertips and wrote with facility simply, that was does not have script, that has not looked including the screen and material has been completed to say! Then huge citation and information content, makes concrete to the detail writing is been bad by a character that Zhang Ye said! 而且最让这些文学界人士震惊的并不是张烨从各个思路上的分析解释,而是张烨对于《红楼梦》的滚瓜烂熟,竟然比他们这些研究红楼几年十几年二十几年的人还要熟悉！这是把《红楼梦》从头到尾都背下来了？张烨刚刚长篇大论的分析和引据原文,简直信手拈来,那可是都没有稿子的,那可是连屏幕和资料都没有看过脱稿说的！那么庞大的引据和信息量,偏偏具体到细节文字都被张烨说的一个字不差啊！ Several. 第几回。 Several. 第几句。 Concrete paragraph original text. 具体段落原文。 That was opens mouth said that stammered has not hit one, this rather too exaggerated in their opinion! The group of Hong studies researchers who let alone they come, can achieve the Zhang Ye degree on the entire red educational world also nobody in this! No matter Zhang Ye viewpoint is right, this person definitely is to understand «Dream of the Red Chamber», moreover possibly studies compared with their these experts in many places also wants profoundly thorough! 那是张嘴就说,磕巴都没打过一个,这在他们看来未免太夸张了！别说他们来的这帮红学研究者了,就整个红学界也没有一个人能在这一块做到张烨的程度啊！不管张烨观点对不对,这人肯定是懂《红楼梦》的,而且可能在很多地方比他们这些专家研究的还要深刻透彻！ After obtaining this fact, Literature these people, inside has 50% people of complexions not more unattractive! 得出这个事实后,文学界这些人,里面有一半人脸色都更加不好看了！ However after being embarrassed, Redologists Teacher Yang actually confident, in his opinion, Zhang Ye started, Zhang Ye that from saying that „I can explain” is unable to justify oneself, because in Redologists studies also one logical issue that never has the person to dare to ask, is the real non-solution! 不过难堪之后,红学家杨老师却还是胸有成竹,在他看来,张烨从说出那句“我都能解释的了”开始,张烨就无法自圆其说了,因为红学家研究里还有一个从来没有人敢提的逻辑问题,是真的无解的！ Slip of the pen? 笔误？ Hasn't finalized? 没定稿？ No! That issue anything did not explain!( 不！那个问题什么都解释不了！( …… ……