„Reasonable!” “有道理啊！” „Also really has the structure!” “还真是有结构的！” „Do nine ride 12? Old Cao was too tasteful!” “九乘12？老曹太讲究了啊！” „Teacher Zhang Ye is great! formidable might is aggressive!” “张烨老师好样的啊！威武霸气！” Yao Mi claps the hands and shouts praise, some minority Peking University students also deeply nod, this class was too splendid, just like the first class, so long as listened to Zhang Ye to speak a few words, behind could not receive, the attention all by Zhang Ye directing, this dropping out astonishing suspenses slowly logically has then analyzed the teaching method of explanation, many lecturers have used, but seemed like so good, but also really few that Zhang Ye used! 姚蜜拍手叫好,少数一些北大学生们也深深点头,这堂课太精彩了,跟第一节课一样,只要听了张烨讲了头一句话,后面就收不住了,注意力就全被张烨给引走了,这种抛下一个个惊人悬念然后慢慢从逻辑上分析解释的讲课方法,很多讲师都用过,可是像张烨用的这么好的,还真没有几个！ The viewpoint was too novel! 观点太新奇了！ Angle also too alternative! 角度也太另类了！ Several Hong studies expert look at each other in dismay, a short time obstinately could not dispute, wants to undermine, finally now actually entered the Zhang Ye rhythm, before coming, they have completed actually also many preparatory work, thinks that Zhang Ye will continue the matter with some material evidence, taking advantage of developed „quibble” to guide everybody slowly, therefore several Redologists and people of Literature think how should refute him, even thinks how to have compelled in Zhang Ye the impasse, making his one's own surround, keeping his one's own from justifying oneself, can say, these belt hostility Literature person. Is comes prepared, what may make their speechless is, Zhang Ye has not managed their this unexpectedly! 几个红学专家面面相觑,一时半会儿愣是辩驳不出来了,本是想来拆台的,结果现在却进入了张烨的节奏,来之前,他们实际也是做好了很多准备工作的,以为张烨会继续拿一些资料证据说事儿,借而开展出来一个个“歪理”慢慢引导大家,于是几个红学家和文学界的人都想好了该怎么驳斥他,甚至想好了怎么将张烨逼到死胡同里,让他自己困住,让他自己都无法自圆其说,可以说,这些带着敌意的文学界的人。是有备而来的,可偏偏让他们无语的是,张烨竟然没理他们这茬儿！ Material literature evidence? 资料文献佐证？ This male servant does not say unexpectedly! 这厮居然不说了！ In addition has a chapter, unexpectedly mentioned from the «Dream of the Red Chamber» structure! 另起一个篇章,竟从《红楼梦》的结构上说起了！ Meng Dongguo only thinks crack cursed one: You too did not press the repertoire to play a card! 孟东国只想破口大骂一句:你丫也太不按套路出牌了啊！ This makes their Redologists a lot of words suppress simply cannot be saying, about the structure, about nine rides 12, they have not studied including the research, the entire red educational world from the start has not explored this content, making them say? Anything prepares not to have! Only can listen to Zhang Ye to speak with confidence eagerly! Also is thinking under trap to Zhang Ye makes him fall into their grasps, has not expected their one's own actually to fall the Zhang Ye rhythm! 这让他们那些红学家简直一肚子话憋着说不出来啊,关于结构,关于九乘12,他们是连研究都没研究过的,整个红学界都压根没有探索过这一块的内容,让他们怎么说？什么准备都没有！只能眼巴巴地听着张烨侃侃而谈！还想着给张烨下陷阱让他跌进他们的掌握呢,没料他们自己却陷进了张烨的节奏！ This person is not simple! 这人不简单！ Also really has many skills! 还真有两把刷子啊！ Yan Yu looked at Zhang Ye, in the heart received the contempt, first time started the angle from learning seriously to ponder the argument of Zhang Ye truly. 严玉望了望张烨,心中已经收起了轻视,第一次开始真正从学术上的角度认真思考张烨的论点了。 Old Qian smiles, said to Yan Yu: „Is Little Zhang good?” 钱老一笑,对严玉道:“小张还行吧？” Yan Yu silent moment, comments: „Is talented, but the viewpoint was too radical.” Said over and over again, she did not believe the argument of Zhang Ye. 严玉默然了片刻,评价道:“才华横溢,但观点太激进了。”说来说去,她还是不相信张烨的论点。 Old Qian said: „We then listen, he he.” 钱老道:“咱们接着听吧,呵呵。” History scholar who other school comes said objectively: „That Teacher Little Zhang said that but also is really reasonable, must know, cultural belief that because the inheritance of history and leaves behind, the ancient most regards as important the tradition, is fastidious about the structure, the poem with five characters per line, the seven-character per line poem, the ryhme, this can look in rhyme.” 一个外校来的历史学者客观道:“小张老师说的这个,还真是有道理的,要知道,因为历史的传承和遗留的文化信仰,古人最看重传统,也讲究结构,五言诗,七言诗,合辙押韵,这都看得出来。” Professor Zeng also feels the beard slight bow, Teacher Little Zhang truly gives them Peking University to make every effort to succeed! 曾教授也摸着胡子微微点头,小张老师确实给他们北大争气啊！ That side Wu Zeqing like that gently expression, from beginning to end cannot see the change of any doubts and look, has probably believed Zhang Ye can say seems. 那边的吴则卿还是那般温和的表情,自始至终也看不到任何疑惑和眼神的变化,好像一直都相信张烨能讲好似的。 Chinese department Director and department secretaries and the others of were not this, they just listened to Zhang Ye boast shamelessly to open the mouth to deny the «Dream of the Red Chamber» chapter heading number are not right, started with trepidation, for fear that he dropped the reputation of Peking University Chinese department, but below these many experts, such mostly the lifetime devoted to studying the «Dream of the Red Chamber» colleague, if were refuted unable to be possible by others word saying that may be disgraceful, therefore Peking University these were lead with Teacher entire worry, until seeing now this curtain, until finding Zhang Ye, not only had not been asked is unable to be possible. Said that instead this group of Writer and Redologists saying ignorant, this relaxed, and happy! 中文系的系主任和系书记等人就不是这样了,他们刚刚听张烨大言不惭地开口就否定了《红楼梦》的回目数不对,就开始提心吊胆了,生怕他堕了北大中文系的名头,下面可是这么多专家学者啊,这么多半辈子都致力于研究《红楼梦》的行内人啊,万一被人家一言反驳到无法可说,那可就丢人现眼了,所以北大的这些系领导跟老师全捏着一把汗,直到看见现在这一幕,直到瞧见张烨不但没有被问得无法可。说,反而把这帮文学家和红学家给说懵了,这才松了口气,而且还乐了！ Little Zhang line! 小张行啊！ Chatted corona to this group of Redologists? 给这帮红学家都聊晕了？ Zhang Ye is still continue chat, exploits the victory in one vigorous effort, „, therefore defers to this structural style, 9981, the «Dream of the Red Chamber» 82 nd chapter should be very big dividing line, should be passes through the plot the extremely important transition and collecting.” He was saying gestured to staff, the books on screen skipped immediately 81, „was 120 passes through this «Dream of the Red Chamber» is actually not this, why I have also been saying Cao Xueqin's original pen, only then roughly first 80 reasons!” 张烨还在继续聊,一鼓作气地扩大战果,“所以按照这个结构形式,9981,《红楼梦》的第82回应该又是一个很大的分水岭,应该是贯穿情节的极其重要的转折和收束。”他说着就对工作人员打了个手势,屏幕上的书籍顿时跳转到了81回,“可是120回通行本的《红楼梦》却不是这样的,这也就是我为什么一直在说曹雪芹的原笔只有大体前80回的原因！” 81 writing came out. 81回的文字出来了。 After everybody sees, very much has doubts. 大家看到后,却都很疑惑。 „Doesn't have the feeling to be improper?” “没感觉不妥啊？” „Yes, looks that is a person writes.” “是啊,看着就是一个人写的啊。” „I also thought so that is very comfortable, is very reasonable.” “我也这么觉得,挺舒服的,也挺合理的。” „If the imitation continues, impossible imitation is so good?” “要是模仿续写,不可能模仿的这么好吧？” The Peking University students talked in whispers. 北大学生们窃窃私语。 Several Redologists easily have not opened the mouth, they by the beginning of Zhang Ye making, then, in they not familiar structural problem, they not to have studied passively not quite have been good to speak, prepares to watch changes quietly first, having a look at Zhang Ye can one's own make a mistake, found the opportunity to be good to refute. 几个红学家则没有轻易开口,他们已经被张烨的开场给弄得被动了,这下,在他们并不熟悉的结构问题上,他们没研究过也不太好发言,准备先静观其变,看看张烨会不会自己犯错误,找到机会就好反驳了。 However Zhang Ye actually obviously to them the opportunity, does not look at the stage evil ways: „Everybody has looked 81 st, possibly had not felt that is uncomfortable, is in my opinion, this continued 81 st is far from Cao Xueqin original intention.” He added a heavy word, „even makes people unable to endure!” 然而张烨却显然是不会给他们机会的,看着台下道:“大家都看过第81回,可能并没有感觉到不舒服,可是在我看来,这个被人续写的第81回与曹雪芹原意相差甚远。”他加了个重词,“甚至让人无法忍受！” School leader Zhou felt strange that „is so serious?” 周学长奇怪,“有那么严重吗？” „Isn't able to endure?” Senior Song also thought that the Teacher Zhang Ye words said in a big way, she looks very well. “无法忍受？”宋学姐也觉得张烨老师话说大了,她看着挺好的啊。 Zhang Ye said: „Because in 81, content has made a fresh start, according to the structure, should be 82 is one new unit, is here, 81 then single Li, moreover basic, no matter 72 of previous unit return to 80 content upholstery, this is one very terrifying plot unit, what that inside writes? Did not relate in detail that you think fiercely that has to copy to examine Prospect Garden? Has dead Qingwen by the fragrant officer? Had You saying that must go to the underlings to say to the best room do not go, there was helping Zhen Jia hide the belongings!” 张烨道:“因为在81回,内容就已经另起炉灶了,按照结构来讲,应该是82回才是一个新的单元,可是这里,81回便单立了出来,而且根本不管上一个单元的72回到80回的内容铺垫,这可是一个很恐怖的情节单元啊,里面写的什么啊？不细说了,你猛一想,有没有抄检大观园啊？有没有死晴雯逐芳官啊？有没有尤氏说要到上房去底下人说你别去,那儿正在帮助甄家藏匿财物呢！” The students nod, has. 学生们都点头,是有。 „The plot of this unit is very terrorist.” A Zhang Ye fingers of screen, said: „81 chapters that but everybody sees? As an ending of unit development, it does not make a fresh start, calls ‚to occupy four beautiful to fish sea-monster prosperously’, leisurely, the beautiful women fish in Prospect Garden, all safes.” He has smiled, is that helpless smiling, „copies the matter that examines not to write, the matter of deceased person does not raise, probably the matter of tragedy vanished, not only the plot does not develop, but also Jia Baoyu also turned into a clever child, ‚presented two to enter family school with stern words’, um, although it also wrote Jia Baoyu to start not to want, after the guidance of private school Teacher, Jia Baoyu not only read the saints and sages book, but also studied to make the eight-legged essay, he he, I want to ask, was this first 80 chapters in that Jia Baoyu?” “这个单元的情节很恐怖。”张烨指指屏幕,道:“可是大家看到的81回呢？并不是作为单元发展的一个结尾,它另起炉灶,叫‘占旺相四美钓游鱼’,优哉游哉,美女们在大观园里钓鱼喽,一切无事哟。”他笑了下,是那种无奈的笑,“抄检的事不写了,死人的事不提了,好像悲剧的事都消失了,不但情节不发展了,而且贾宝玉还变成了一个乖孩子了,‘奉严词两番入家塾’了,嗯,它虽然也写了贾宝玉开始不愿意啊,经过私塾老师的教导啊,贾宝玉不但读圣贤书了,还学做八股文了,呵呵,我想问问了,这还是前80回里那个贾宝玉吗？” Some person of students said: „Person becomes.” 有人学生道:“人会变得啊。” „Yes, this should fortunately?” School leader Zhou said. “是啊,这段应该还好吧？”周学长道。 Zhang Ye shakes the head, „person will change, but will not change is so big, moreover absolutely will not have the upholstery, Jia Baoyu will be opposed person who official career economy, that will be the definite orders writes! He does not even hesitate to come up with he quite friendly youth female to get angry in this value concept, has the fierce confrontation with Xue Baochai with Shi Xiangyun, first 80 write clearly, Jia Baoyu respects Lin Daiyu only, why? Because Lin Daiyu hits slightly never encourages him to go to the imperial civil service examination test to become famous to set up ten thousand, therefore he deeply respects Lin Daiyu, but after 80 chapters of Jia Baoyu changed completely, earnest entering private school, but also studies the eight-legged essay, never likes quite liking, what is stranger was Lin Daiyu also changed flavor, after 80 chapters, Lin Daiyu who everybody saw did say? Listens to him to make the eight-legged essay, unexpectedly supports very much!” 张烨摇摇头,“人是会变,但不会变化这么大,而且完全没有铺垫,贾宝玉是个非常反对仕途经济的人,那是明文写出来的！他甚至不惜在这个价值观念上去和他比较友好的青春女性翻脸,跟薛宝钗跟史湘云发生激烈冲突,前80回写得清清楚楚,贾宝玉唯独尊重林黛玉,为什么啊？因为林黛玉打小从来不鼓励他去科举考试扬名立万,所以他深敬林黛玉,可是80回后的贾宝玉完全变了个样子,认真的进私塾,还学八股文,从不喜欢到比较喜欢,更古怪的是林黛玉也变味了,大家看到的80回后林黛玉怎么说啊？听他做八股文,居然很支持！” The screen jumps. 屏幕一跳。 Lin Daiyu original words came out. 林黛玉原话出来了。 She spoke the eight-legged essay: In also has reasonable sensible, there is a Qing micro pale far, cannot totally erase, moreover you must take the academic honor, this clear was also more expensive. 她说八股文:内中也有近情近理的,也有清微淡远的,不可一概抹掉,况且你要取功名,这个也清贵些。 Zhang Ye shakes the head said: „Is this words that Lin Daiyu spoke? Really therefore was not I looks for trouble, looked at these, I was am completely unacceptable, this should not be Cao Xueqin's 81 writing, naturally, after 81 chapters, wrote absurdly, does everybody remember that the precious jade publicized the feudalism virtue with the skillful elder sister, had the impression? Is scary? The skillful elder sister is his nephew daughter, at that time was reading «Woman of integrity Biography», what book was this? Is one fills the dregs to publicize the feudalism virtue from beginning to end the book, Jia Baoyu, not only did not oppose that she read such book, but also as the elder, reviewed this book with her together the content, inside had one not to know that you did have the impression, including one was ‚Cao Fuge nose’, the Three Kingdom era had a person married surnamed Cao, therefore were called Cao, she died the husband to maintain moral integrity, you maintained moral integrity defend, but she was not good, she must reveal one's aspirations, therefore gave to cut the hair, became very ugly, not to have liked her on the possible man, on. Said that she does not get married, cut the hair also to suffice? Not! This woman is very strange, she also took the knife handle one's own ear shearing!” 张烨摇头不已道:“这是林黛玉说的话吗？所以实在不是我没事找事,看了这些,我个人是完全不能接受的,这不应该是曹雪芹的81回的文字,当然了,81回以后就写得更荒唐了,大家记不记得宝玉跟巧姐宣扬封建道德,有印象吧？吓人不吓人啊？巧姐是他的堂侄女儿,那时候在读《烈女传》了,这是什么书？是一本从头到尾充满糟粕宣扬封建道德的书,贾宝玉呢,不但不反对她读这样的书,还作为长辈,跟她一起温习这部书的内容,里面有一段不知道你有没有印象,其中有一个是‘曹妇割鼻’,三国时期有个人嫁给姓曹的了,所以叫曹氏,她死了丈夫了要守节,你守节就守吧,可她不行,她要明志,于是就把头发给剪了,变得很难看,就可能没有男人喜欢她了,就。说她坚决不嫁人了,剪了头发是不是也就够了啊？不介！这个女人很奇怪,她还拿刀把自己耳朵给割了！” „Oh!” “哎呀！” „Sweat!” “汗！” „Is so miserable?” “这么惨？” The students under field are all terrified. 场下的学生们无不悚然。 „Bloody sufficed scary, normally did this also suffice? Did you stop? It is not good she to think also insufficiently, but must express that firmly one's own must maintain moral integrity, she took the nose of knife handle one's own shearing.” Zhang Ye said: „I looked that some people shut eye, right, shut the eye to be right, this imagination must shut the eye.” “血淋淋的就够吓人了,按说这也够了吧？您是不是就到此为止了啊？不行她觉得不行还不够,还得更坚定地表示自己要守节,她就拿刀把自己的鼻子给割了。”张烨道:“我看有人闭眼睛了,对,闭眼睛就对了,这想象必须闭眼睛。” Many Peking University students exude the laughter, „he he.” 好多北大学生都发出笑声,“呵呵呵。” Zhang Ye lets go saying: „Unexpectedly was recorded on this fact, was treated as a model, stores «Woman of integrity Biography», but Jia Baoyu? Jia Baoyu in book is very unexpectedly affected, publicizes ‚Cao Fuge nose’ to the skillful elder sister, I do not know that everybody read here anything to feel, I read absolutely terrifiedly here! Is this Cao Xueqin writing Jia Baoyu of? This and 81 of Cao Xueqin writing are very different simply!” 张烨摊手道:“可是就这种事迹竟然被记载下来,被当做一个楷模,存入《烈女传》,可贾宝玉呢？书里的贾宝玉居然很感动,就向巧姐宣扬‘曹妇割鼻’,我不知道大家读到这里什么感觉,我读到这里毛骨悚然！这还是曹雪芹笔下的贾宝玉吗？这和曹雪芹笔下的81回简直相去甚远！” Nobody refuted. 没人反驳。 Here some logical issues, Redologists of this world also raises actually. 这里的一些逻辑问题,这个世界的红学家其实也提出来过。 Zhang Ye said indifferently: „In our Hong studies research, some people have also questioned, this is also «Dream of the Red Chamber» not the reason that is good to speak, because there are all kinds of issues unable to escape not to evade, and explanation, but......” Zhang Ye puts down huge words, „I explained!” 张烨淡然道:“在咱们的红学研究中,这一块也有人质疑过,这也是《红楼梦》不好讲的原因,因为有各种各样的问题是逃不开躲不过并且解释不了的,但是……”张烨放下一句天大的话,“我都解释的了！” The people in an uproar. 众人哗然。 You explained? 你都解释的了？ This saying said was too absolute? 这话说的太绝对了吧？ You may suffice boast shamelessly really! 你可真够大言不惭的啊！ The people of these Literature do not know that said any was good, extremely arrogant! 那些文学界的人都不知道说什么好了,狂妄啊！ Zhang Ye said: Could Jia Baoyu's issue that „for example I just said that convince according to my explanation? Because after roughly 80 chapters, now in the market condition disseminates passes through this also good old book, is not Cao Xueqin's original pen original intention, has other people to continue! Therefore Jia Baoyu in presented two personalities, this did not feel strange that from the start was two authors writes!” 张烨道:“比如我刚说的贾宝玉的问题,按照我的解释就说得通了吧？因为从大体80回后,现在市面上传播的通行本也好古本也罢,已经不是曹雪芹的原笔原意了,是另有他人续写的！所以贾宝玉在前后才呈现出了两个人格,这个就不奇怪了,压根就是两个作者写的！” Silent! 沉默！ A silence! 一片沉默！ According to the Zhang Ye mentality, this logical issue truly really passed to the explanation! 按照张烨的思路,这个逻辑问题确实真的给解释通了！ Everybody is lost in thought that especially the people of these Literature, on the face are not quite attractive, temporarily has not made a sound, the information content that Zhang Ye gives was too big, everybody a little did not absorb for a while!( 大家陷入沉思,尤其那些文学界的人,脸上都不太好看,也都暂时没吱声,张烨给出的信息量实在太大了,大家一时有点吸收不了！( …… ……