IRAS :: Volume #4

#309: This rewrites the rhythm of history!


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The assembly hall was also static! 礼堂又静了! Also is one subverts the cognition the opinion! 又是一番颠覆认知的言论! Many people are chewing and ponder the argument of Zhang Ye! 好多人都在咀嚼和思考张烨的论点! Following corner 50-year-old male Teacher of Peking University management of economy department cannot bear say: Where this does Zhang Ye jump?” 下面角落里的一个北大经济管理系的50多岁的男老师忍不住道:“这个张烨是哪里蹦出来的?” Side history department female Teacher said: „Don't you know him?” 旁侧一历史系女老师道:“您不知道他?” That male Teacher said: I do not read the news, does not pay attention to Entertainment Circle and Literature circle.” 那男老师道:“我不太看新闻,也不关注娱乐圈文学圈。” Female Teacher said: This Zhang Ye, in Beijing is a little fame, the Literature accomplishment is very high.” 老师道:“这个张烨,在京城还是有一点名气的,文学素养很高。” Department of Economics and Management male Teacher said: I looked, therefore curious this was the rare talent who where braved, «Dream of the Red Chamber» I also very much liked, had paid attention to time, has looked at the review and analysis about «Dream of the Red Chamber», including some experts and Redologists shooting the breeze, but dares to question that whose the «Dream of the Red Chamber» author was, only then a Zhang Ye person, light dares to propose that the person of this viewpoint, absolutely was not simple.” He looks on the stage relaxed expression Zhang Ye, said: You discover not to have, he does not have script from beginning to end, his to go on stage only brought several materials, is completed completely is saying, this was already «Dream of the Red Chamber» having a thorough understanding in the bone!” 经管系男老师道:“我看出来了,所以才好奇这是哪里冒出来的奇才,《红楼梦》我也很喜欢,曾经关注过一段时间,看过很多关于《红楼梦》的点评和分析,包括一些专家学者和红学家的高谈阔论,可是敢质疑《红楼梦》作者是谁的,就只有张烨一个人,光是敢提出这个观点的人,就绝对不简单。”他看着台上轻轻松松表情的张烨,道:“你们发现没有,他自始至终都没有稿子,他上台只带了几张资料,全部都是脱稿在讲,这是已经把《红楼梦》给吃透到骨子里了!” Female Teacher kotows slightly, this opinion was too truly novel, if Zhang Ye does not raise, possibly forever some people will not consider and author in question red chamber.” Blinks, said: He said that although has that little truth, but I am the reservations.” 老师微微叩首,“这个言论确实太新颖了,张烨要是不提出来,可能永远也不会有人考虑和质疑红楼的作者。”眨眨眼,道:“不过他说的虽然有那么一点点道理,可我还是保留意见。” Male Teacher um said: Also must listen again, such selects the evidence to be as before insufficient, wants to subvert such a world already the cognition of final judgment on a person's life can be made only after he is dead and buried, at least must put out more than one ironclad proof that enables the person to be convinced to come, comes up the proof from the massive angles with the massive literature, otherwise nobody will approve!” 老师嗯道:“还得再听听,这么点证据依旧不够,想颠覆这么一个全世界都已经盖棺定论的认知,起码得拿出不止一个让人可以服气的铁证来,用大量文献从大量角度上来证明,否则没人会认同!” Behind said by practice Teacher that their Peking University just came: I looked did not have, what after all Redologists have studied dozens years of «Dream of the Red Chamber» does not have to progress, the literature material was also leafed through, evidence where was so good to look? Zhang Ye can discover such evidence in several small detail to support his viewpoint, is the miracle!” 后面挨着他们的一个北大刚来的实习老师道:“我看是没了,毕竟红学家们研究了几十年《红楼梦》都没什么进展,文献资料也被翻遍了,证据哪里是那么好找的?张烨能找出这么几个小细节上的佐证支持他的观点,已经是奇迹了!” That side the reporter is also whispering. 记者那边也在交头接耳。 The Peking University students talked in whispers similarly. 北大学生们同样窃窃私语。 God!” “神了啊!” This viewpoint was too scary!” “这观点太吓人了!” If real, that...... That Literature messed up!” “如果是真的,那……那文学界就乱套了啊!” My first one knows that originally «Dream of the Red Chamber» can also such say!” “我头一回知道,原来《红楼梦》还可以这么讲啊!” Has not come Peking University from Zhang Ye the time, from just announced that Zhang Ye allies that moment of Peking University Chinese department, almost all people were questioning his level and qualifications, although the students were interested in Zhang Ye very much, hoped to have such it is unique style Teacher very much, but that from the angle of entertainment looked that can talk about Zhang Ye to be able really this «Appreciation of the Classics» guidance good of how? Perhaps these Peking University students have not reported anything to anticipate, let alone educational circle and Literature public figure, even colleague Professor Teacher of Peking University Chinese department also mostly maintains the manner to Zhang Ye half believing and half doubting even simply not trusting, repels to Zhang Ye very much! Then Zhang Ye said that must speak «Dream of the Red Chamber» that no one dares to touch, dishes out a startled day opinion, everybody his does not trust is getting bigger and bigger, Chinese department Professor Yan who for example below sits, for example is Director Chang Kaige and the others, takes Zhang Ye, when the lunatic same looked! 张烨还没有来北大的时候,从刚宣布张烨加盟北大中文系的那一刻,几乎所有人都在质疑他的水平和资历,学生们虽然对张烨很感兴趣,很希望有这么一个独树一帜风格的老师,但那只是从娱乐的角度上看的,真要谈到张烨能把这门《古典名著鉴赏》教导的多么好?恐怕这些北大学生们也没有报什么期待,更别说教育界和文学界的人士了,甚至北大中文系的同事老师教授也大都对张烨保持着将信将疑甚至干脆就是不信任的态度,对张烨很排斥!然后张烨说要讲谁都不敢碰的《红楼梦》,又抛出一个惊天言论,大家对他的不信任越来越大,比如下面坐着的中文系闫教授,比如系主任常凯歌等人,都拿张烨当疯子一样看了! But one hour passes by! 可一小时过去! But to the present! 可是到了现在! Entered the present of last act to the first class! 到了第一节课进入尾声的现在! Many people received contempt, first time started to face up to Zhang Ye this person, first time started that faced up to Zhang Ye to propose inconceivable viewpoint! No matter Zhang Ye said is right, no matter they have do not believe this argument, but they have to put down that contradiction and self-respect now, acknowledged that research and research of Zhang Ye to the «Dream of the Red Chamber» was in an extremely high standard and situation really! 很多人都收起了轻视,第一次开始正视张烨这个人,第一次开始正视张烨提出的那“不可思议”的观点了!不管张烨说的到底对不对,不管他们有多么不相信这番论点,可是他们现在也不得不放下那份抵触和自尊,承认张烨对《红楼梦》的研究和考证真的已经到了一个极高的水准和地步了! Professor Zeng? 曾教授 Professor Yan? 闫教授? Teacher of Chinese department? 中文系的老师 Even before , specializes in this class Professor King? 甚至之前专修这门课的王教授? Hassle-free, to the research of «Dream of the Red Chamber», they truly everyone is inferior to Zhang Ye, in this domain, the technique that Zhang Ye tried another method makes most people be convinced! Only is all old books originates from the evidence of Zhiyanzhai edition, enough has made the red educational world cause a stir! 毫无争议,在对《红楼梦》的考证上,他们确实谁也不如张烨,在这个领域,张烨另辟蹊径的手法让大部分人都服气了!光是所有古本都来源于脂砚斋版本的证据,就已经足够让红学界轰动了! This is a big discovery! 这是一个大发现! This is in the Hong studies research an unprecedented progress! 这是红学研究中一个突破性的进展! Even that Qing Dynasty poet gave tall E the poem, was a material of knowing a great deal about value! 甚至那个清代诗人送给高鹗的诗,也是一个极有研究价值的资料! Listens to Zhang Ye talk about here, many people somewhat were unthinkable, why? Why such essential material and literature, hadn't others discovered? Did the discovery finish not to note? Why realized this point on a Zhang Ye person? This male servant person your mother can go against on entire red educational world! 张烨讲到这里,许多人不禁有些匪夷所思了,为什么?为什么这么关键的资料和文献,别人都没有发现?或者发现了却没有注意到?为什么就偏偏张烨一个人察觉到了这一点?这厮一个人你妈能顶的上整个红学界了啊! ...... …… Several seconds passed by. 十几秒钟过去了。 The people have gotten back one's composure from the ponder. 众人都已经从思考中回过神。 The Senior Song sorption gas lift draws out the arm, Teacher Zhang!” 宋学姐吸着气举起手臂,“张老师!” Zhang Ye receives the material that has projected, said with a smile: Little Song you said.” 张烨收了一下投影的资料,笑道:“小宋你说。” Your discovery is very valuable, but......” Senior Song dies dies gruff said gruff: Even if the old books of many red chamber came from the edition of Zhiyanzhai, is earnest, this cannot explain that issue, cannot in the comment of Zhiyanzhai say that the «Dream of the Red Chamber» latter 40 chapters are not Cao Xueqin do, even if Zhiyanzhai relates with Cao Xueqin very closely, perhaps also participated in the discussion and creation, but those words, Zhiyanzhai writes the comment the time red chamber possibly not to create, finally afterward Cao Xueqin modified, has not written according to the original intention, you refuted me saying that a moment ago the Zhiyanzhai evaluation was very affirmative, said that he has looked at unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber», this not evidence.” “您的这个发现确实很有价值,但是……”宋学姐死倔死倔道:“即便是很多红楼的古本都源自脂砚斋的版本,非要较真儿的话,这还是说明不了问题,不能用脂砚斋的批语就说《红楼梦》后40回不是曹雪芹所作,就算脂砚斋跟曹雪芹关系十分紧密,或许也参与了讨论和创作,但还是那句话,脂砚斋写批语的时候红楼可能还没有创作完,结果后来曹雪芹改动了,没有按照原来的意图写,您刚才反驳我说脂砚斋评语很肯定,说他看过全本的《红楼梦》,这还是没证据。” Good that a Professor Zeng nod, Little Song this thorn selected, studied academic is this, found fault unceasingly, identified the issue unceasingly, this more looked is clearer. 曾教授一点头,小宋这个刺儿挑的好,研究学术就是这样的,不断挑刺,不断找问题,这才越看越清楚。 Senior Song was saying, her mentality even more is also clear, „, therefore this is only Zhiyanzhai word of the word, according to such inference words, the lots could also convince, the person of that time has not looked at unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber», relates recent Zhiyanzhai also to know that with Cao Xueqin a general mentality and compendium, thereupon create the evaluation that these Zhiyanzhai have thought that under this is in the old book that time spreads has not recorded the unabridged book 120 to return to the «Dream of the Red Chamber» reason, they did not record, because behind no one has seen the plot, Cao Xueqin finished. After «Dream of the Red Chamber», the reason that because script some type does not know has sealed, many years later was obtained by tall E, this can disseminate, at that time spreads! Why refers to the evaluation of Zhiyanzhai as for tall E, but also astrayed passes through originally, this also can only explain that high osprey academic on rigorousness, he supplemented «Dream of the Red Chamber» time has studied the commentary of Zhiyanzhai, 120 chapters that even possible Cao Xueqin to spread in this «Dream of the Red Chamber» front the content was having the Zhiyanzhai evaluation, tall E as a regulator, has copied finally by mistake, therefore 120 chapters of red chambers were Cao Xueqin write!” 宋学姐说着,她思路也愈加清晰,“所以这只是脂砚斋的一言之词,照这么推理的话,很多东西也都说得通了,那个时代的人都没有看过全本的《红楼梦》,跟曹雪芹关系最近的脂砚斋也只是知道一个大概思路和提纲,于是乎才造成了那些脂砚斋自以为的评语,这也是那个时代流传下来的古本中都没有记录下全本120回《红楼梦》的原因,他们记载不了,因为谁也没看到后面的情节,曹雪芹写完。《红楼梦》后,稿子就因为某种不知道的原因封存了,很多很多年后被高鹗得到,这才得以传播,才在那个时候流传出来的!至于高鹗为什么参考脂砚斋的评语,还误入通行本了,这也只能说明高鹗学术上的严谨,他‘补充’《红楼梦》的时候研究过脂砚斋的评论,甚至可能曹雪芹流传下来的120回完本《红楼梦》里前面内容就带着脂砚斋评语的,高鹗是作为一个整理者,结果误抄了,所以120回红楼就是曹雪芹写的!” Yes!” “是啊!” This student said well.” “这学生说得好。” Senior Song formidable might! Right that said!” 宋学姐威武啊!说的对!” Words that such guessed, all could convince! The viewpoint of Teacher Zhang Ye a little could not halt! Really is studies to dominate Senior Song!” “这么猜测的话,一切都说得通了!张烨老师的观点就都有点站不住了!果然是学霸宋学姐啊!” The Peking University students suddenly see the light! 北大学生们都豁然开朗! Several Peking University Teacher also looked at Senior Song one, this student is very smart! 有几个北大老师也多看了宋学姐一眼,这学生很机灵! However Zhang Ye actually and does not care, instead smiles, looks at Senior Song saying: Your meaning is, has that time nobody looked at unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber»?” 然而张烨却并不在意,反而笑起来,看着宋学姐道:“你的意思是,那个时代没有人看过全本《红楼梦》?” Senior Song affirms saying: Inevitably is this, such inference words, your viewpoint can overthrow, unabridged book 120 chapters of «Dream of the Red Chamber» first in tall E the hand time spread, therefore the commentary of Zhiyanzhai cannot stand firmly.” 宋学姐肯定道:“必然是这样的,这么推断的话,您的观点都可以推翻,全本120回《红楼梦》是在高鹗手中第一次流传出去的,所以脂砚斋的评论根本站不住脚。” Zhang Ye shakes the head with a smile. 张烨笑着摇摇头。 „Didn't you agree?” Senior Song takes a look at him. “您不同意?”宋学姐瞅瞅他。 Zhang Ye said: He He, I was very actually happy, why? Because starts me to say some viewpoints the time, everybody thought that I am quibbling, thought that I am using some unreasonable even to bring the material of subjective speculation to quibble, but you discover not to have, present situation in turn.” 张烨道:“呵呵,我其实很高兴,为什么?因为最开始我说出一些观点的时候,大家都觉得我是在狡辩,觉得我是在用一些不靠谱甚至带着主观臆测的资料来强词夺理,但是你们发现没有,现在的情况反过来了。” Senior Song face one red, my this did not quibble to speculate with the manager that really had this possibility, no, definitely was this!” 宋学姐脸一红,“我这个不是强词夺理和主管臆测,确实有这个可能,不,肯定就是这样的!” Sure?” Zhang Ye said. “肯定?”张烨道。 Sure!” Senior Song firm [say / way]. “肯定!”宋学姐坚决道。 That this affirmed that you must form the question mark, actually, that time some people have looked at «Dream of the Red Chamber»!” Was Zhang Ye early fully prepared, how by a student stumping? He self-satisfied and puts out a material, puts in the projection, everybody please look at this.” “那这个肯定你得打问号了,其实,那个时代是有人看过《红楼梦》的!”张烨早都做好了一切准备,怎么会被一个学生给问住了?他飘飘然地又拿出一份资料来,放入投影,“大家请看这个。” This what? 这什么? Poem? Also is the poem? 诗?又是诗? The people observe closely attentively! 众人全神贯注地盯住! don't asked that gold/metal Yin and jade reason, gathers such as the spring dream to disperse like the smoke. 莫问金姻与玉缘,聚如春梦散如烟。 Under the stone sets does not have the spiritual energy, always enables the word also in vain however. 石归山下无灵气,总使能言亦枉然。 Everybody look at each other in dismay, this what poem? How to have listened? 大家面面相觑的很,这什么诗啊?怎么没听过? Zhang Ye said: This material, was I spends many time to find with the internal System input from the Beijing library, wrote the person of this poem to be called observes Mingyi richly, the self- room, was a young aristocrat of Qing Dynasty, but he was not successful, declined to this time family very much, his poem, wrote also not much, wanted to be lower than the same level, without the fame, he composed a poem is also a self-admiration, or encircled with friends and relatives Little Fan spreads, this poem collection name was called «Green Smoke Trivial Window Volume of».” 张烨道:“这个资料,是我从京城图书馆里花了很多时间才跟内部系统录入中找到的,写这首诗的人叫做富察明义,自我斋,是清代的一个小贵族,但他不得志,到了他这个时候家族已经很没落了,他的诗呢,写的也不怎么样,比一般般的水平还要低一些,没有名气,他写诗也就是个自我欣赏,或者跟亲戚朋友小范围流传的,他这个诗集的名字叫《绿烟琐窗集》。” Everybody is bewildered, this person who? 大家莫名其妙,这人谁啊? Some student surfers search, has not looked up. 有些学生上网搜索,也没有查到。 Zhang Ye is looking at the expression of people, said: Can look, everybody does not know this person, but, please remember observes Mingyi this name richly, on studying «Dream of the Red Chamber», this person is an important role, everybody please look at the poem on projection, obviously is some «Dream of the Red Chamber», what meaning is the poem? In the red chamber has a gold and jade marriage affinity story, he said that do not ask again, finds it unbearable to recall, why? Because observed Mingyi already to see richly inside gold and jade marriage affinity gathered like spring dream these parts, then he also saw dispersed like smoke part, richly the one who observed Mingyi to look was complete unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber»!” 张烨瞄着众人的表情,道:“看得出来,大家都不认识这个人,但是,请记住富察明义这个名字,在研究《红楼梦》上,这个人是至关重要的一个角色,大家请看投影上的这首诗,明显就是些《红楼梦》的,诗是什么意思呢?红楼里有一个金玉姻缘的故事,他就说了,不要再问了,不堪回首,为什么呢?因为富察明义既看到了里面金玉姻缘‘聚如春梦’的那些部分,那么他也看到了‘散如烟’的部分,富察明义看的是一个有头有尾的全本《红楼梦》!” Some people raised the question, historically had this person?” 有人提出质疑,“历史上有这个人吗?” Yes, can the red educational world not have to research this poem? Does this really write «Dream of the Red Chamber»? Has why nobody discovered?” “是啊,红学界可没有考证过这首诗?这真是写《红楼梦》的?那为什么没有人发现过?” Strangely what did this person look at the red chamber to have?” “这人看了红楼有什么稀奇的?” Right, I have also looked at 120 chapters of red chambers, is complete!” “对,我也看过120回红楼啊,也是有头有尾啊!” Senior Song also proposed many doubts, issues had been thrown by everybody. 宋学姐也提出了很多疑惑,一个又一个的问题被大家扔了过来。 This world, observes Mingyi this person basically not to have anybody to care richly, because his poem level is not good, the joint people are not, nobody will care, moreover that «Green Smoke Trivial Window Collection» is incomplete, «Topic Dream of the Red Chamber» several characters originally do not exist, 20 wrote the poem of red chamber in this Earth also only remaining 34, did not have the title, did not have the fame, hid covertly, had not been discovered by Redologists in this world, but Zhang Ye actually knew these as crossing over, knew this. The importances of people and these poems. Others could not discover these poems, but Zhang Ye knows that the result counter- was looking, naturally can find easily. 这个世界,富察明义这人基本上没有任何人在意过,因为他的诗水平不行,连名人都算不上,没有人会去关心,而且那《绿烟琐窗集》是残缺的,原本的《题红楼梦》的几个字都不存在了,20首写红楼的诗在这个地球也只剩下了34首,没标题,没名气,藏得太隐蔽了,以至于在这个世界还从没有被红学家们发现过,但张烨作为穿越者却知道这些,知道这个。人和这些诗的重要性。别人发现不了这些诗,但张烨知道结果反着去找,自然能轻易找到。 Cannot say that his level is higher than Redologists of this world, can only say that Zhang Ye looks are more than them, knows thing that they do not know! 不能说他的水平比这个世界的红学家高,只能说张烨看得比他们多,知道他们不知道的东西! Zhang Ye said: I see some everybody questions, has not related, I can 11 explanations, first say when this observes Mingyi to write down this poem richly, according to my research and research, observes Mingyi's «Green Smoke Trivial Window Collection» richly, his inside poem downward arranges according to the age.” Materials were put in the projection by him, you look, these are the materials of textual criticism, everybody can clear seeing, in «Green Smoke Trivial Window Collection» the final these poems can the textual criticism come out, completed in 1781, but I just gave that everybody saw to write the «Dream of the Red Chamber» poem, was actually before then, in other words, observed Mingyi to look at a complete red chamber before 1781 richly and writes down this poem, but when tall E 120 returned to pass through this «Dream of the Red Chamber» is appears? Was in 1791!” 张烨道:“我看到大家有些疑问,没关系,我会11解答,首先说这个富察明义是在什么时候写下这首诗的,根据我的考证和研究,富察明义的《绿烟琐窗集》,他里面的诗是按照年代往下排列的。”一张张资料被他放到投影上,“你们看,这些都是考据的资料,大家可以清楚的看到,《绿烟琐窗集》中最后的这些诗能考据出来,是完成在1781年的,而我刚刚给大家看到的那首写《红楼梦》的诗,却是在这之前,也就是说,富察明义是在1781年之前就看过一个完整的红楼并写下这首诗,但是高鹗的120回通行本《红楼梦》是什么时候出现的呢?是1791年!” Senior Song one surprised! 宋学姐一愕! Many people have also gawked staring! 好多人也愣了愣! Zhang Ye said with a smile: Therefore just Little Song inference and speculation, were untenable, before the high osprey, some people have looked at unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber», but was not this 120 general book!” 张烨微笑道:“所以刚刚小宋的推断和臆测,是不成立的,在高鹗之前,是有人看过全本《红楼梦》的,但不是这个120回的通行本!” School leader Zhou helped Senior Song speak, also some people have looked, that was not the evidence, this observed Mingyi possibly to look richly, but has not copied out to leave behind any old book, therefore others have also looked, but that ended this old book to be attained by tall E, was distributed by tall E many years later.” 周学长帮着宋学姐说话了,“就算还有人看过,那也不算证据,这富察明义可能只是看了,但是没有手抄下来遗留下来什么古本,所以别人也都看过,而那个完本的古本被高鹗拿到了,才在很多年后被高鹗发行。” Zhang Ye smiles, „do you discover? The reason that you argued was more and more narrow, moreover was also getting more and more subjective.” 张烨笑笑,“你们发现没有?你们争辩的理由是越来越窄了,而且也越来越主观。” School leader Zhou is hard the neck saying: But is such.” 周学长硬着脖子道:“但就是这样的啊。” Good, I give everybody to look at a poem again, is observes Mingyi to write «Dream of the Red Chamber» one in one group of poem richly.” Zhang Ye said: If just that everybody thought that cannot explain anything, understood that is not writing the poem of red chamber, then this was the conclusive evidence.” “好,那我再给大家看一首诗,也是富察明义写《红楼梦》的一组诗中的一首。”张烨道:“如果刚刚那一首大家觉得说明不了什么,也理解不是在写红楼的诗,那么这一首就是铁证如山了。” The material came out. 资料出来了。 The food jade drinks the gold/metal not several spring, the descendants of princes thin bone is rugged. 馔玉饮金未几春,王孙瘦损骨嶙峋。 Blue moth rouge what Guichu, ashamed past Stone Jilun. 青蛾红粉何归处,惭愧当年石季伦。 Zhang Ye explained: What meaning? In he explained the Chinese classics the Jia patriarchal clan, the life was very luxurious, but several spring, how long their this luxurious life have not passed through, few springs, then we immediately recall we had read in the red chamber first 80 chapters, inside said was very clear, after three spring went, all Fangjin, compared the broken three spring scenes not to be long, the life of riches and honors said also on three years of time, obviously observed Mingyi saw 80 chapters of like some predictions before richly, but at the same time, he also saw in the novel leading character, son of the rich or influential Jia Baoyu, what finally was image.? The thin bone is rugged! Was thinly becomes skinny!” 张烨解释道:“什么意思呢?他说书里的贾氏宗族啊,生活很奢侈,但未几春,他们这种奢侈的生活没有经过多久,没有几个春天,那么我们就立刻回忆到了我们所读过的红楼前80回里,里面说的很清楚,三春去后诸芳尽,勘破三春景不长,说的荣华富贵的生活也就三年时间,显然富察明义是看到了80回之前的这样一些预言,但是同时,他也看到了小说里面的主人公,王孙公子贾宝玉,最后是一个什么样的形象。呢?瘦损骨嶙峋!就是瘦成皮包骨头了!” Many people looking pensive. 好多人若有所思。 Some Professor Zeng and people are tasting that poem unceasingly. 曾教授和一些人不断回味着那首诗。 Zhang Ye looks at everybody, that I must ask, in 120 chapters of «Dream of the Red Chamber» pass through this, does Jia Baoyu have this image? Had the thin bone to be rugged? Absolutely does not have! Therefore observes unabridged book «Dream of the Red Chamber» that Mingyi sees richly, is different from 120 chapters of «Dream of the Red Chamber» that you see! Latter 40 chapter headings that because everybody sees, is tall E the continuing book! It is not Cao Xueqin's original pen!” 张烨看着大家,“那么我要问了,在120回《红楼梦》通行本中,贾宝玉有这个形象吗?有瘦损骨嶙峋了吗?是完全没有的!所以富察明义看到的全本《红楼梦》,跟你们看到的120回《红楼梦》是不一样的!因为大家看到的后40回目,是高鹗的续书!不是曹雪芹的原笔!” This evidence is a little truly big! 这个证据确实有点大! Several Professor Peking University have looked at each other one mutually! 有几个北大教授相互对视了一眼! Old Li, how do you see?” Teacher of Chinese department asked to Teacher of another history department. 老李,你怎么看?”中文系的一个老师问向另一个历史系的老师 That history department Teacher hesitation moment, I need to confirm first.” Saying, he picked up the phone to hit to several friends, fed, helping me miss several materials, observed Mingyi related richly......” the startled day opinion of Zhang Ye, has continued to affect Literature and educational circle, their history could not be inseparable from. 那历史系老师沉吟片刻,“我需要先验证一下。”说着,他拿起电话打给了几个朋友,“喂,帮我差几个资料,有关富察明义的……”张烨的惊天言论,已经不止会影响到文学界和教育界了,他们历史界也脱不了干系。 Big three study elder sisters of history department said: „Does this observe the words that Mingyi spoke to be reasonable richly?” 一个历史系的大三学姐道:“这富察明义说的话靠谱吗?” Zhang Ye he he smiles, here has one about to observe Mingyi's material richly, everybody looks that concludes by unreasonable again.” Takes the material, he said: Material showed that observes Mingyi this person richly compared with the evening that Cao Xueqin must live, but they is a person of time, in the life has common overlapping time, is Cao Xueqin living time, observes Mingyi also to live richly . Moreover the material showed that they live in the Beijing ground, is suburbs, therefore these two people likely have the communication, is not eight bamboo poles do not hit the person!” 张烨呵呵一笑,“我这儿有一段关于富察明义的资料,大家看一看,再来断定靠不靠谱。”把资料拿上去,他道:“资料显示,富察明义这个人比曹雪芹要生的晚,但是他们都属于一个时代的人,生命中有一段共通交叉的时间,也就是曹雪芹活着的时候,富察明义也活着,而且资料显示,他们两人都生活在京城地面,都是郊区,所以这两个人很可能是有来往的,不是八竿子打不着的人!” Senior Song does not speak. 宋学姐不说话了。 Many people are also going all out the evidence that digests Zhang Ye to give! 很多人也都在拼命消化张烨给出的证据! Zhang Ye said: Everybody can ponder that listened to me to say again at the same time, the latter half of this poem, was a very important evidence, azure moth rouge what Guichu? These youth females in in other words book, do not know finally when , ashamed past Stone Jilun, the ancient speech love with the literary reference, Stone Jilun is a Western Jin Dynasty person, his name was called Stone Chong, this person was big rich and powerful people, dissolute and unrestrained, but this person final destiny was very pitiful, failed in the contention of authority, when his political opponent chased down his family|home, he had a son, called the green bead, this green bead on taking an action, indicated the revolt, expressed that to loyalty that the stone honored, on going into building., Jumped to his death, became historically a famous matter green bead leaps off a building, the stone honored this person is actually very bad, was not worth sympathizing, is depending on our today's visions, place that green bead matter was not worth eulogizing, but was this, after observed Mingyi to see richly «Dream of the Red Chamber» result sighed with emotion, Jia patriarchal clan to final destruction time, did not have including a green bead such character, these beautiful woman rouge nobody stood to come out to express, even if revolted little, richly what therefore observed Mingyi to see was a tragedy big result, Was a Jia patriarchal clan fell piece white earth «Dream of the Red Chamber», this was «Dream of the Red Chamber» of Cao Xueqin original pen original intention!” 张烨道:“大家可以思考,再一边听我说,这首诗的后半段,也是非常重要的一个佐证,青蛾红粉何归处?就是说书里的那些青春女性啊,最后都不知道去哪儿了,惭愧当年石季伦,古人说话爱用典故,石季伦是西晋时的一个人,他名字叫石崇,这个人是个大富豪,荒淫无度,但是这个人最后的命运很悲惨,在权力的角逐中失败了,当他的政敌追杀进他的家,他有一个侧室,叫绿珠,这个绿珠就采取了一个行动,表示反抗,也表示对石崇的忠诚,就跑到楼上。,跳楼身亡了,成为了历史上一件有名的事情绿珠坠楼,石崇这个人其实是很糟糕的,也没什么值得同情的,依着我们今天的眼光来看,绿珠这件事也没什么值得歌颂的地方,但是就是这样,在富察明义看到《红楼梦》结局后都感慨,贾氏宗族到了最后覆灭的时候,连一个绿珠这样的人物都没有出,这些青娥红粉没有一个人站出来表示哪怕一点点反抗,所以富察明义看到的是一个悲剧大结局的,是一个贾氏宗族落了片白茫茫大地的《红楼梦》,这才是曹雪芹原笔原意的《红楼梦》!” The people failed to explode once again. 众人又一次哑火了。 Everybody has not cleared off the mentality, does not know how should refute. 大家没有理清思路,也不知该怎么反驳。 Zhang Ye therefore said: Then comprehensive, the answer was very obvious, if must say that Zhiyanzhai listened to Cao Xueqin's program and mentality, at that time «Dream of the Red Chamber» hadn't finished? Finally was also sealed? Therefore after having the old book reveals 80 chapters of the stories? Does that observe Mingyi these poems this to explain richly? Was this too detailed? He has seen with one's own eyes the «Dream of the Red Chamber» big result obviously! Moreover with present 120 pass through was different! Many years before the high osprey sees! Under this background, who explained why will present this bewildered situation?” 张烨于是道:“那么综合来看,答案已经很明显了,如果非要说脂砚斋只是听了曹雪芹的大纲和思路,那时候《红楼梦》还没有写完?最后还被封存了?所以没有古本流露出80回后的故事?那富察明义这几首诗该怎么解释?这已经太详细了吧?他明显是亲眼看到了《红楼梦》的大结局!而且跟现在的120回通行本不一样!还是在高鹗之前很多年看到的!这个背景下,谁来解释解释为什么会出现这种莫名其妙情况?” Silent. 无声。 Nobody? I can explain! After «Dream of the Red Chamber» 80 chapters that nowadays spreads from the start is not Cao Xueqin writes!” Zhang Ye asserted again! “没人吗?那我可以解释!现今流传的《红楼梦》80回后压根不是曹雪芹写的!”张烨再次断言! At this time, that history department Teacher telephone also back coupling came back, he clearly had in the friend of library work, directly searched from the internal index, quick looked up! 这时候,那个历史系老师的电话也回馈回来了,他显然是有在图书馆工作的朋友,直接从内部索引上搜索,很快就查到了! Old Li?” 老李?” What kind of?” “怎么样?” This person and do these poems exist really?” “这人和这些诗真的存在?” That history department Teacher hangs up the telephone, nods to the colleague dignifiedly, Zhang Ye said is not false, at least these materials can verify, observes Mingyi to have these poems richly, his entire life, the background, Zhang Ye also said is not bad.” Then on cell phone the opposite party the material that passes on to everybody looked, „, moreover continues these two, other, but these poems had not written plainly that writes «Dream of the Red Chamber», but between the lines meaning, truly was saying the red chamber, but was too covert, not the confidence analysis and observation could not realize!” 那历史系老师挂断电话,凝重地对同事点点头,“张烨说的不假,至少那些资料都是能查证到的,富察明义真的是有这几首诗的,他的生平,背景,张烨也说的不差。”然后把手机上对方传过来的资料给大家看,“而且不止这两首,还有其他的,而这些诗虽然没有写明是写《红楼梦》的,可字里行间的意思,确实是在说红楼,只不过太隐蔽了,不信心分析和观察根本察觉不到!” Professor Zeng leaves far, listening to their words simply to change a seat, fast collected to read that material, this......” 曾教授离得远,听了他们的话干脆换了个座位,飞快凑过来看那资料,“这……” Nearby these Peking University Teacher time took, did not believe the viewpoint of Zhang Ye, but took Zhang Ye to look for the material literature thoroughly the ability! 附近这几个北大老师时间都服了,不是信服了张烨的观点,而是彻底服了张烨找资料文献的能力! A such common material! 这么不起眼的一个资料! A such wishy-washy character! 这么不疼不痒的一个人物! Can this you find? Can this be discovered by you?? 这你都能找到?这都能被你发现?? Looked from this point that several Peking University Teacher and professors thought Zhang Ye really some too abnormal! Before knows that this Host surnamed Zhang understood 1.3 countries, said was also very interesting very has the interest, who once thinks that originally «Dream of the Red Chamber» he also studied such carefully in every way possible! Moreover research results, regardless to wrong, in their opinion, Zhang Ye walked in front of all Redologists! 从这一点上看,几个北大老师和教授都觉得张烨实在有些太变-态了!以前就知道这个姓张的主持人就懂1.3国,说的也挺有意思挺有趣味的,可谁曾想,原来《红楼梦》他也研究得这么细致入微!而且研究成果无论对错,在他们看来,张烨都已经走在了所有红学家前面了! Wu Zeqing graceful smiling, looks like Teacher Little Zhang can be competent this class?” 吴则卿优雅的笑着,“看来小张老师还是能胜任这门课的吧?” The Chinese department professor Yan Jiantao calm face said: Many things still wait for confirming.” Person who he cannot have a liking for Zhang Ye this non- history non- Literature professionally-trained worker. 中文系教授闫建涛沉着脸道:“好多东西还有待验证。”他还是看不上张烨这个非历史非文学科班出身的人。 But other people are different. 但其他人则不一样。 Presented everyone to look, if under Zhang Ye if also had a more powerful evidence, this is must rewrite the historical celebrities eternity the rhythm!?( 在场谁都看出来了,如果张烨下面要是还有更加强有力的佐证的话,这是要改写历史名流千古的节奏啊!?( …… ……
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