Senior Song spoke, „possibly was the coincidence, this was not the evidence.” 宋学姐发言,“可能就是巧合,这不算证据啊。” Zhang Ye shakes the head, „coincidence cannot explain, the only explanation is, genuine Cao Xueqin's «Dream of the Red Chamber», only then 80 backflow hand down from generation to generation, but tall E saw, he studies diligently earnestly, and carried on to continue, moreover tall E Luck, he saw very much quite entire we have not seen 80 chapter headings old books, but cannot say that we have not seen completely, because in the edition of high osprey has distributed this 80 chapters of old books, naturally, inside was has filled after his changing, but has not changed roughly.” 张烨摇头,“巧合解释不了,唯一的解释就是,真正曹雪芹的《红楼梦》,只有80回流传下来,而高鹗看到了,他认真钻研,并进行续写了,而且高鹗很幸运,他看到了一个比较全的我们没有见过的80回目的古本,不过也不能说咱们完全没有见过,因为高鹗的版本里已经将这个80回古本发行出来了,当然,里面是经过他修改和填补过的,但大体没有改变。” Senior Song persists in saying: „Why that was not tall E has attained 120 «Dream of the Red Chamber» old books, reorganized the publication?” 宋学姐坚持道:“那为什么不是高鹗拿到了一个120回的《红楼梦》古本,整理发表的？” Zhang Ye has not answered this issue, but said: „Who has everybody listened to Zhiyanzhai this person?” 张烨没回答这个问题,而是道:“大家谁听过脂砚斋这个人？” Senior Song shakes the head. 宋学姐摇头。 Many Peking University students also shake the head. 好多北大学生也摇头。 Has a history department that side elementary school younger sister Voice clear [say / way]: „Also is an old book, I remember that called Zhiyanzhai to comment Story of the Stone again, but this old book spread few to return, was most incomplete, moreover inside evaluation also some bewildered, therefore many experts and Hong studies amateurs did not calculate to make in the old book this, because thought that it was not quite authoritative, possibly the casual doodle scrawled.” 只有一个历史系那边的小学妹声音清脆道:“也是一个古本吧,我记得叫脂砚斋重评石头记,不过这个古本就流传下来没有几回,是最残缺的,而且里面的评语也有一些莫名其妙的,所以好多专家学者和红学爱好者并不把这个算做古本里,因为觉得它不太权威,可能是随便涂鸦瞎写的。” The students access the net, really has this old book. 学生们上网一查,果然有这个古本。 „Right that said.” Zhang Ye said with a smile: „Zhiyanzhai this old book did not attach great importance to very much, first is too incomplete, second cannot understand, therefore everybody conscientiously has not studied, even if studied has also done not treat seriously, has not cared, he he, but I want here to tell everybody now, could not understand that said it did not have the truth is the doodle scrawls, this was in itself to academic did not respect, actually the old book of Zhiyanzhai, is spreads in until now «Dream of the Red Chamber» old book the most authoritative edition!” In Zhang Ye Earth, the old book of Zhiyanzhai spreads the most complete evaluation to be most detailed, he has read the first edition! “说的对。”张烨笑道:“脂砚斋这个古本很不被人重视,一来是太残缺,二来是看不懂,所以大家从没有认真研究过,就算研究了也就是一带而过,没怎么在意,呵呵,不过我现在要在这里告诉大家,理解不了就说它没有道理是涂鸦瞎写的,这本身就是对学术的不尊重,其实脂砚斋的古本,才是流传至今的《红楼梦》古本里最权威的版本！”在张烨的地球,脂砚斋的古本可是流传最完整评语最详细的,他看过原版！ „How can!” Senior Song does not believe. “怎么会！”宋学姐不信。 Peking University many students also shake heads. 北大不少学生也大摇其头。 The Zhang Ye expression is having the ridicule, „said that Zhiyanzhai is the casual doodle? Nothing but was the person who studied the Zhiyanzhai old book cannot understand him to say anything, but others could not understand, I see, if I Believe everybody established the thought in «Dream of the Red Chamber», only then under 80 preconditions, you can also understand.” He has put out a material, is existence information that this world has, although Zhang Ye has read the first editions of Zhiyanzhai several old books, but this world almost lost completely, he impossible to say the matter with this, can only use the existing evidence. 张烨表情带着嘲笑,“说脂砚斋是随便涂鸦？无非就是研究脂砚斋古本的人看不懂他说什么罢了,不过别人看不懂,我看懂了,我相信如果大家把思维建立在《红楼梦》只有80回的先决条件下,你们也能看懂。”他又拿出了一份资料,是这个世界存在的现有资料,虽然张烨看过脂砚斋几个古本的原版,可这个世界已经几乎全部遗失了,他也不可能拿这个说事儿,只能用现有的证据。 The people look up completely. 众人全部抬头看去。 Zhang Ye points at the projection saying: „Zhiyanzhai has such an evaluation, Jia Baoyu afterward ‚cold winter choking acid ji, the snowy night encircled broken felt’, I want to ask, «Dream of the Red Chamber» 120 pass through this first 80 do have this plot? No! In the latter 40 chapters has this plot? Does not have!” Has referred to again, „in the Zhiyanzhai evaluation also has, small red helps to rescue the precious jade in ‚prison temple’, in the latter 40 chapters has this plot? Does not have! In any latter 40 chapters has not appeared including ‚prison temple’! Even simply Zhiyanzhai directly a chapter heading of 80 chapters of told us after the evaluation, asking Xue Baochai the loanword to contain to reprove by parables, Wang Xifeng knowing the will of heaven strong Hero, latter did 40 have this chapter heading? Does not have as before!” 张烨指着投影道:“脂砚斋有过这么一个评语,贾宝玉后来‘寒冬噎酸虀,雪夜围破毡’,我想问,《红楼梦》120回通行本的前80回有这个情节吗？没有！后40回里有这个情节吗？也没有！”再指了指,“脂砚斋评语中还有,小红在‘狱神庙’帮助营救宝玉,后40回里有这个情节吗？还是没有！连‘狱神庙’是什么后40回里都没有出现！甚至干脆脂砚斋在评语里直接将80回后的一个回目告诉我们了,叫薛宝钗借词含讽谏,王熙凤知命强英雄,后40回有这个回目吗？依旧没有！” School leader Zhou said: „This evaluation is in itself not authoritative.” 周学长道:“这个评语本身就不权威。” Zhang Ye asked back: „Is that what authoritative? Can't an ancient literature material call the authoritative words, the Redologists research counter- revoke settling of accounts authority? What truth is this? We study are the known materials that «Dream of the Red Chamber» depends, moreover you thought that Zhiyanzhai this ancient is all right to do idly? To mislead everybody has inscribed the things of some headless non- brains?” 张烨反问道:“那什么是权威的？一个古代文献资料都不能称之为权威的话,红学家的研究反倒算权威？这是什么道理？我们研究《红楼梦》靠的就是已知的资料,而且你觉得脂砚斋这个古人是闲的没事干？就为了误导大家才写上了些无头无脑的东西？” „, This......” school leader Zhou was also at a loss for words. “呃,这个……”周学长也语塞了。 Senior Song lifts shoulders saying: „Zhiyanzhai perhaps has communicated with Cao Xueqin, thinks that Cao Xueqin will write such, had been disclosed some plots and chapter heading names, is our present names program, but Cao Xueqin has not written according to the beforehand mentality finally, this also has the possibility!” 宋学姐抬扛道:“脂砚斋或许是跟曹雪芹交流过,以为曹雪芹会这么写,被透露过一些情节和回目名称,也就是我们现在称之的大纲,但是最后曹雪芹没有按照之前的思路去写了,这也有可能啊！” Zhang Ye looks to her, said: „But you do not think the expression in Zhiyanzhai evaluation, too affirmed? His expression was not hearsay a Cao Xueqin's mentality, but after has looked at or knew 80 the stories really! The Zhiyanzhai unusual nag decides! Therefore, reason that the evaluation of Zhiyanzhai makes the common people not understand that is because the «Dream of the Red Chamber» 80 chapters of later stories are not Cao Xueqin's original pen original intentions, but is tall E continues, the advancement of Zhiyanzhai this person's to studying Hong studies was too essential, he possibly is Cao Xueqin's wife, possibly is Cao Xueqin's father, possibly is Cao Xueqin's long-standing and deep-rooted friend good friend, makes concrete us to be unknown, but I can definitely, this Zhiyanzhai, not be ordinary has only borrowed the Dream of the Red Chamber transcript the person! Can look from the evaluation! Zhiyanzhai participated in the entire creation of «Dream of the Red Chamber»! He is read and exchange and after Cao Xueqin discussed that discussed evaluation that writes down!” 张烨看向她,道:“但你不觉得脂砚斋评语里的语气,太肯定了吗？他的语气可不是道听途说了一点曹雪芹的思路,而是真的看过或者知道80回后的故事！脂砚斋非常驽定！所以,脂砚斋的评语之所以让世人所不理解,就是因为《红楼梦》80回以后的故事不是曹雪芹的原笔原意,而是高鹗续写的,脂砚斋这个人对研究红学的进程太关键了,他可能是曹雪芹的妻子,可能是曹雪芹的父亲,也可能是曹雪芹的深交好友,具体我们不得而知,但是我可以肯定一点,这个脂砚斋,不是一个普普通通只借阅过红楼梦抄本下来的人！从评语上就能看出来！脂砚斋是参与了《红楼梦》的整个创作的！他是阅读、交流并和曹雪芹讨论商量后才写下的评语！” Also is a bomb! 又是一颗炸弹！ Also in assembly hall crack! 又在礼堂内炸响了！ A Hong studies researcher has not faced up to Zhiyanzhai, actually by Zhang Ye was said is most authoritative and participated in the creation of «Dream of the Red Chamber»?? 一个红学研究者从来没有正视过的脂砚斋,竟然被张烨说是最权威的且参与了《红楼梦》的创作？？ Your this is must be prone making exaggerated , sensationalistic statements! 您这是要多语不惊人死不休啊！ Peking University students once again cooker, look at each other in dismay! 北大学生们又一次炸锅了,面面相觑不已！ Peking University female students of history department quibbled, „you said was reasonable, but Zhiyanzhai this person history has not recorded, was a pen name, unknown origin, was male is the females does not know that his words were certainly incredible, cannot be the evidence.” 一个历史系的北大女生狡辩起来,“就算您说的有道理,可脂砚斋这个人历史也没有记载,还是个笔名,来历不明,是男是女都不知道,他的话当然也不可信,不可以作为佐证的。” Zhang Ye was happy, „this saying I do not approve, from the evaluation, could see Zhiyanzhai and Cao Xueqin's close relation, what we do not know is only Zhiyanzhai is any concrete status, is not of unknown origin, if Zhiyanzhai must of unknown origin, illuminated you saying that Cao Xueqin was also the person of unknown origin, the red educational world to the present actually our academic circle and still cannot clarify Cao Xueqin is Cao Yu son, was Cao Fu son, therefore these status cannot be the denial evidence the excuse.” 张烨乐了,“这话我可不认可,从评语里面,已经看得出脂砚斋和曹雪芹的密切关系了,我们不知道的只是脂砚斋到底是什么具体身份而已,并不是来历不明,如果脂砚斋要算来历不明的话,照你这么说,曹雪芹也是来历不明的人啊,我们的学术界和红学界到现在依然弄不清曹雪芹究竟是曹颙的儿子,还是曹頫的儿子,所以这些身份不能作为否定证据的说辞。” Is Cao Xueqin also unidentified? 曹雪芹也身份不明？ On the female unfamiliar face of that history department red white, dingily sat down finally. 那历史系的女生脸上一阵红一阵白,最后还是灰溜溜地坐下了。 „Moreover, I Believe many people have not discovered that even innumerable Redologists have not noted a matter.” Zhang Ye on the material, pointed at the projection saying: „Can see, this is a «Dream of the Red Chamber» old book, the hand-written copy, are quite wrongly many, the typesetting also has very major problem , compared with many old books cannot amount to something, but such in an old book is hiding a very important information, you look here, saw, this line has made a mistake probably, Ping Baiduo some characters, these characters, if thought so only everybody what cannot understand, is if so?” Zhang Ye also brought a material, has spelled. “而且,我相信很多人都没有发现过,甚至无数红学家也没有注意到一件事。”张烨又上资料了,指着投影道:“可以看到,这是《红楼梦》其中一个古本,手抄本,错误比较多,排版也有很大问题,跟很多古本相比算是上不了台面的,可是就这么一个古本里藏着一个很重要的信息,你们看这里,看到了没有,这一行好像是弄错了,平白多了一些字,这些字如果单这么看大家什么也了解不到,可是如果这样呢？”张烨又拿来了一个资料,拼了上去。 The people call out in alarm. 众人惊呼。 „To!” “对上了！” „How is this line same?” “怎么这一行一样？” „Is this evaluation of Zhiyanzhai?” “这是脂砚斋的评语？” „Shit! Evaluation of Zhiyanzhai how in other old books?” “我靠！脂砚斋的评语怎么在其他古本上？” Cao Professor and the others also facial color one startled, the handwriting is obviously different from writing, is not a person writes, but...... The character is unexpectedly same! 曹教授等人也面色一惊,字迹和书写明显不一样,不是一个人写的,但……字竟然是一样的！ Zhang Ye is maintaining the smiling face, this was one grasped self-confident smiling of all information, «Dream of the Red Chamber» is studied „fine hair hole” in his world, that was passes again cannot pass, many matters also early had the conclusion, Zhang Ye was the broadcast Host family background, the glib lips is also very smooth, therefore those present, even the person of this world, was impossible to say him in red chamber domain. 张烨保持着笑容,这是一个已经掌握一切信息的自信的笑,《红楼梦》在他那个世界已经被研究到了“汗毛孔”,那是透得不能再透了,好多事情也早有了定论,张烨又是播音主持人出身,嘴皮子很溜,所以在场的人,甚至这个世界的人,在红楼这一块领域都不可能说得过他。 He said: „Was this very clear? Person who writes this old book, has referred to the Zhiyanzhai edition, therefore here he has been distracted slightly, finally has wrongly copied, was left intact to install directly bewilderedly an evaluation of Zhiyanzhai, nearby the later word complete does not want to do, many people have looked here, but thinks that was the wrong character or has messed up, therefore has not cared does not have the deep research, but I have studied, everybody also saw, this was actually the evaluation of Zhiyanzhai cutting out the unimportant in some chapter heading, original words!” 他道:“这已经很清楚了吧？写这个古本的人,也是参考过脂砚斋版本的,所以在这里他稍微走神了一下,结果抄错了,直接原封不动将脂砚斋的一句评语给莫名其妙地装上去了,跟前后文全完不想干,很多人都看过这里,但以为是错字或搞混了,所以没有在意也没有深入研究,但是我研究过,大家也都看到了,这句其实就是脂砚斋在某一回目里的一句掐头去尾的评语,还是原话！” Zhang Ye on material example, „everybody , if not believe this old book, then also has this, this simply is the high osprey edition, is everybody common one 120 passes through this.” 张烨又上资料举例,“大家如果不信这个古本,那么还有这段,这干脆就是高鹗版本,也是大家所常见的一个120回通行本里的话。” The material is as follows: 资料如下: Then to pitying spring in room. Because pities is spring young, has not known the matter. Frightens does not know that has any matter, therefore Sister Feng must have comforts her, who knows to seek a large package small silver ingot in the picturesque box unexpectedly, approximately 30-40. In order to observe intrigue, counter- stolen goods. Also there is a jade belt printing block, and one package of men the boots sock and other thing. 遂到惜春房中来。因惜春年少,尚未识事。吓的不知有什么事,故凤姐少不得安慰她,谁知竟在入画箱中寻出一大包银锞来,约共三四十个。为察奸情,反得贼赃。又有一副玉带版子,并一包男人的靴袜等物。 Zhang Ye looks at the following people, „in ‚to observe intrigue, counter- stolen goods’, if there is a careful person to glance through all complete «Dream of the Red Chamber» old books, will discover that in does not have this, but in the only Zhiyanzhai edition has, these words at all are not Cao Xueqin's original text, to observe intrigue, counter- stolen goods this from the start is the evaluation of Zhiyanzhai!” Adds on a material to contrast again, making everybody see clearly, „looks, source on here! But the old book of Zhiyanzhai is the edition of scaled height of burst osprey must obviously early too many years, naturally possibly is not Zhiyanzhai by mistake copies tall E the old book, the logic does not pass, therefore this is the fat that leaks deletes approves mixes in the high osprey edition main text by mistake the situation, because is tall E with by right should template of Zhiyanzhai!” 张烨望了望下面众人,“里面的一句‘为察奸情,反得贼赃’,如果有细心的人翻阅过所有全部的《红楼梦》古本,都会发现里面没有这一句,可是唯独脂砚斋版本里有,这句话根本不是曹雪芹的原文,为察奸情,反得贼赃这压根就是脂砚斋的评语！”再加上一张资料对比,让大家看得清楚,“看,出处就在这里！而脂砚斋的古本明显是比高鹗的版本要早太多年的,当然不可能是脂砚斋误抄高鹗的古本,逻辑根本不通,所以这就是漏删的脂批误混入高鹗版本正文的情形,因为是高鹗在拿脂砚斋的古本当模板！” „This......” “这……” „Also is really!” “还真是啊！” „What can this explain?” “这能说明什么？” „Yes, this on behalf of what?” “是啊,这代表什么？” Several students cannot bear ask. 几个学生们忍不住问道。 Professor Zeng leaves sound track: „How do you see?” 就连曾教授都不由出声道:“你怎么看的？” Zhang Ye shows a faint smile, „this situation, I believe that or I can affirm, «Dream of the Red Chamber» all old books, from again comment Story of the Stone in Zhiyanzhai actually, all «Dream of the Red Chamber» editions including high osprey edition System, complete source and course in Zhi comments this System! But everybody who I in tall E hand said a moment ago has not read most entire old book, can actually conclude that is the edition of Zhiyanzhai, but a Zhiyanzhai edition spreads incompletely serious, had been discovered by us has not cared, tall E obtains is actually Zhiyanzhai «Dream of the Red Chamber» of relatively complete 80 chapter heading! Therefore under this inference, the evaluation of Zhiyanzhai was too precious, is quite reliable, therefore I have said some Zhiyanzhai after 80 chapters of evaluations, is tenable, explained after «Dream of the Red Chamber» 80 chapters, at is not Cao Xueqin does!” 张烨微微一笑,“这个情况,我认为,或者说我可以肯定,《红楼梦》的所有古本,其实都是来自于脂砚斋重评石头记,包括高鹗版本系统在内的所有《红楼梦》版本,全部源流于脂评本系统！而高鹗手中的我刚才说的大家没有看过的最全的古本,其实可以断定就是脂砚斋的版本,只不过脂砚斋其中一个版本流传下来残缺严重,被我们发现了并没有在意,高鹗得到的却是脂砚斋的相对完整的80回目的《红楼梦》！所以这个推断下,脂砚斋的评语就太珍贵了,也是相当可靠的,于是我说过的一些脂砚斋在80回后的评语,也就是成立的了,也就说明《红楼梦》的80回后根本不是曹雪芹所作！” „Real false?” “真的假的？” „My tired goes!” “我累个去啊！” The Peking University students were in a tumult! 北大学生们都骚动了起来！ Even if Professor Zeng and a few has Teacher of profound understanding to «Dream of the Red Chamber», on their faces obvious first time has also shown the shocking look! Zhang Ye at this moment cites with the support of material literature infers with the analysis, probably possibly has really! 即便是曾教授和少数几个对《红楼梦》有深刻了解的老师,他们脸上也明显第一次露出了震惊的神色！张烨此刻的这个引据和资料文献的支撑跟分析推理,好像真的不是没有可能的！ Wu Zeqing has smiled, then pretended did not play cell phone! 吴则卿笑了,这下也不假装玩手机了！ Chang Kaige and Zhen of Shuquan also finally some Chinese department wear a look of vacillated!( 中文系的常凯歌和甄书全俩人也终于有些面带动摇了！( …… ……