WIIC :: Volume #5

#238: Invitation


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Algebraic topology and are differential analysis situs in the middle of the analysis situs are without doubt most meaningful?” What outside is chewing these words, cannot help but nods: A little meaning just, do you dare entire to judge the analysis situs unexpectedly?” “代数拓扑和微分拓扑无疑是拓扑学当中最有意义的?”何外尔嘴嚼着这句话,不由得点点头:“有点意思只不过,你居然敢对拓扑学整个进行评判?” I by the status of calculating the family/home, makes my own judgment in this domain.” king Qi is neither arrogant nor servile. “我是以一个算家的身份,在这个领域做出我自己的判断。”王崎不卑不亢。 I in algebraic topology, truly some issues.” What outside said: Your mentality, as if enough aims at the group theory and theory of rings......, excuse me, this is I first thinks. I and my same side once conducted very long research in this domain, what therefore I first think is this.” “我在代数拓扑,确实是有一些问题的。”何外尔道:“你的思路,似乎更够指向群论和环论……啊,不好意思,这个是我最先想到的。我和我的同门曾在这个领域进行了很久的研究,所以我最先想到的是这个。” king Qi nods, in the heart is slightly somewhat is surprised. 王崎点点头,心中却是微微有些惊讶。 In the situation of fuzzy mentality, can guess the direction of this theory unexpectedly...... 在只有模糊思路的情况下,居然能够猜测这个理论的方向吗…… The cohomology algebra stems from the algebraic topology, but in the application is actually higher than the algebraic topology. It not only it is the milestone of mathematical development, can infiltrate to many worlds of mathematics , to promote the overall advance of math. 上同调代数出自代数拓扑,但是应用上却又高于代数拓扑。它不仅本身是数学发展的里程碑,更能够渗透到许多数学领域,推动数学的整体前进。 This powerful academic mentality, and other domains will have and vital function in the group theory, theory of rings, theory of algebras. 这种强而有力的学术思路,将会在群论、环论、代数论等许多个领域产生及其重要的作用。 But the mathematical instrument that happened, aims at the physical finally the domain. 而由此而生的数学工具,最终又指向物理的领域。 And the most remarkable achievement, is reveals the gauge theory the symplex structure. 其中最显著的成就,就是揭示规范场论的对称结构。 But it is well known, in calculating Lord reveres to intersect the sworn friend and say/way rising time quite with too one day, what outside had stayed some time in the normalizing pledge. His also has the considerable understanding of the day style of ancient poetry characterized by freedom from rigid patterns system, wants to follow too day of an approach of revering, completes unification field theory. 而众所周知,在算主与太一天尊相交莫逆、相形之道如日中天的时代,何外尔曾经在归一盟呆过相当长的一段时间。他对着天歌行的体系也有着相当的了解,想要顺着太一天尊的思路,完成“统一场”的理论。 However, he failed. He started from the electric field and magnetic field of concept day song day of tuple at that time, attempts the conversion electricity magnetic potential with the high rank anti-symmetrical tensor of corresponding, then addition attraction momentum- energy- in spirit strength tensor, leads the presence equation with the method of pure arithmetic. 但是,他失败了。他当时从天歌天元组的电场、磁场概念入手,企图将之换成电磁势与与相对应的高阶反对称张量,然后将之加到引力的动量—能量—灵力张量上,用纯粹算学的手段导出场方程。 The high rank member of this ten thousand method not only neglected the concrete significance of oneself mathematical formula, neglects possibility that oneself mathematical formula simply had not constructed, chose the most difficult direction unfortunately. After surpasses Tianyuan style fourth-order, spirit can conservation Spirit strength- conservation of energy Potency this that loses is obviously contradictory with all theories of present stage. Finally, what outside abandoned this wrong theory. 只是,这位万法门的高阶修士不仅忽略了自己算式的具体意义,忽略了自己算式根本没有构建的可能性,也不幸的选择了最难的方向。在天元式超过四阶之后,就连“灵能守恒”【灵力—能量守恒】都失去的效力这显然与现阶段的所有理论都矛盾。最终,何外尔放弃了这个错误的理论。 However, this mentality is correct. 但是,这个思路是正确的。 king Qi knows, so long as after the cohomology algebra promoted the further development of group theory, can what outside past mathematical formula standard group promote to the non- standard group, draws out the arithmetic model of having the practical significance is also the following strong weak electronic unified standard model, Yang on Earth- the foundation of Mills theory. 王崎知晓,只要上同调代数推动了群论的进一步发展之后,就可以将何外尔当年的算式当中的规范群推广到非规范群,引出一个有实际意义的算学模型也就是后面强弱电统一的标准模型,地球上的杨-米尔斯理论的基础。 Very near one pace. 很近的一步之遥。 What outside in the past because of regarding the understanding of abstract algebra, therefore put forward such theory. But he because of such theory, has studied diligently in this direction with oneself same side Ai Ruoche diligently. 何外尔当年就是因为对于抽象代数的认识,所以才提出这样的理论。而他又因为这样的理论,与自己的同门艾若澈在这个方向上努力钻研过。 Accurate, road that king Qi takes today, on the foundation of this senior. 准确来说,王崎今天走的路,也是在这位前辈的基础之上。 king Qi replied: This truly is a very good direction. However, I thought that I have not been able to ponder the specific issue in this aspect temporarily.” 王崎回答道:“这确实是一个很好的方向。不过,我觉得我暂时还不能思考这方面的具体问题。” What outside said: „Is not interested in...... metaphysical algebra?” 何外尔道:“是对……形而上代数这一块不感兴趣?” king Qi shakes the head: This is liquor water, wine glass and small short table issue.” 王崎摇摇头:“这是‘酒水、酒杯、小矮桌’的问题。” What outside shakes, in the middle of the look reveals the unusual ray: „? Liquor water wine glass small short table? Which concepts can you replace?” 何外尔一震,眼神当中露出异样的光芒:“哦?‘酒水’‘酒杯’‘小矮桌’?你这是要代替哪些概念?” Sits a member side Zhao Qingtan is somewhat puzzled: What issue is this? what does Senior have king Qi they...... this is must drink? Holds the cocktail party? Senior Brother Zhao you how?” 坐在赵清潭身边的一个修士有些不解:“这是什么问题啊?何前辈还有王崎他们……这是要喝酒?开酒会?赵师兄你怎么了?” Zhao Qingtan said in a low voice: This is one calculates that the gate involved legal matter...... initially, calculates the Lord beginning palm song courtyard, the Lord research theory of numbers, ten years only discussed the number field. Ten years later, calculates that the host's side discussed the how much, read the geometrical book, poor picture day of law. Also three years, calculate that the lord said ; The line between two points surface is the liquor water wine glass small short table, the geometrical proposition, it would be better if generally is......” 赵清潭低声道:“这是一段算门公案啊……当初,算主初掌歌庭,主研数论,十年只谈数域。十年后,算主方论几何,读几何书,穷画天法。又三年,算主曰;点线面乃酒水酒杯小矮桌,几何命题,概莫如是……” This is anything with anything......” of humble birth this member, the talent is not very high, trod the broken day pass/test recently like mad, is not understands regarding this involved legal matter very much . “这都是什么跟什么啊……”这个修士之平民出身,天赋也不算很高,也是最近拼死拼活踏破天关,对于这一段公案并不是很了解,。 Transits the discipling from sends related Zhao Qingtan to say with the song courtyard in a low voice: Calculates that Lord had once studied the how much. Those words are he understanding of the how much. The picture day five laws no doubt are the foundations of how much, but, the 40,000 years ago geometrical god Monarch has not defined anything is point, anything is line, anything is surface. In the ancient several eyes, these truth are obvious. However calculates the lord looks like, is not this, the line between two points surface also needs the strict arithmetic significance. In his opinion, a picture day of law also has in the middle of the geometrical book line between two points surface, has not defined, changes into liquor water wine glass small short table not to have the issue.” 师承与歌庭派相关的赵清潭低声道:“算主曾研究过几何。那句话就是他对几何的理解。画天五法固然是几何的基础,但是,四万年前的几何神君并没有定义什么是‘点’、什么是‘线’,什么是‘面’。在古老数家的眼中,这些真理都是不言自明的。但是算主看来,并不是这样,点线面也是需要严格的算学意义的。在他看来,画天法还有几何书当中的‘点线面’,根本就没有定义,换成‘酒水酒杯小矮桌’也没有问题。” Why is the liquor water wine glass small short table?” “为什么是酒水酒杯小矮桌?” Perhaps was the Greek gate Lord wanted to drink two cups at that time in the evening?” Zhao Qingtan is staring at king Qi and what outside, in the mouth unceasing saying: Ended...... ended......, even if you really want to do this matter, does not need to say face to face......” “兴许希门主当时就是想要晚上喝两杯呢?”赵清潭盯着王崎和何外尔,口里不断的说道:“完了……完了……就算你真的想做这种事,也不需要当面说出来啊……” That Yuan god period member is still very curious: This saying has what issue......” 那个元神期修士依旧很好奇:“这话有什么问题吗……” Issue big...... 问题大了去了…… Zhao Qingtan almost squeezes out the sound: king Qi this was equal to saying again, the song courtyard sent regarding theory of rings these concepts, without explicit definition this in saying the song courtyard sent is not good from the plant root.” 赵清潭几乎是挤出声音来的:“王崎这就等于再说,歌庭派对于环论这些概念,也没有明确的定义这就是在说歌庭派从根子上就不行。” What outside has not expected king Qi the tone so to be unexpectedly big. His hesitation moment, asked: Can say your idea?” 何外尔也没有料到王崎的口气居然这么大。他沉吟片刻,问道:“能说说你的想法吗?” I did not mean that the theory of senior has the issue, but said, some concepts of senior, after introducing new system, the boundary seemed fuzzy.” king Qixian corrected a point, then said: Hopes beginning the senior palm song courtyard time, the Lord research theory of numbers, the achievement of kind of field theory, I was also once pondering how to pass the cohomology the kind of field theory entire clear demonstration, and continues to promote. Now......” “我并不是说诸位前辈的理论有问题,而是说,诸位前辈的有些概念,在引入新的体系之后,边界就显得模糊了。”王崎先是纠正了一点,然后说道:“希前辈初掌歌庭的时候,主研数论,曾有一个类域论的成果,我也在思考如何将通上同调将类域论整个清晰的展示出来,并继续推广。现在……” king Qi said that also one of the coherence algebra most famous utilization. 王崎说的,也正是同调代数最著名的运用之一。 What outside look shivered. 何外尔的眼神颤动了一下。 He felt a very fuzzy thing. That type of thing has not taken shape, but...... is very beautiful. 他感觉到了一种很模糊的东西。那种东西还未成型,但是……很美。 Thing that king Qi is saying, his song courtyard sends the thing that the disciple is familiar with. 王崎所在说的东西,正是他这个歌庭派弟子所熟悉的东西。 king Qi said quickly in fact, his present theory also starts, if discussed that for three days and three nights cannot discuss. But if says, quick can complete. 王崎说得很快实际上,他现在的学说也只是草创,如果与人讨论的话,三天三夜也讨论不完。但若只是说一说的话,很快就可以完成了。 After king Qi said that what outside deep looked at his one eyes: Young fellow...... and other, I have several issues.” 在王崎说完之后,何外尔深深的看了他一眼:“好小子……等一下,我还有几个问题。” Could see, what outside also has certain understanding of king Qi the present progress. He is not optional question, but is every asks pertinently. After some lots are king Qi , the theory must involve. 看得出,何外尔对王崎现在的进展也是有一定的了解。他并不是随意的发问,而是每一问都切中要害。有很多东西都是王崎以后理论必须要涉及的。 Quick, these once changed with the person complexion that king Qi exchanged in abundance. 很快,那些曾经与王崎交流的人脸色纷纷改变了。 We thought that king Sakiya is this domain beginner......, but his present performance, is really the beginner?” “我们都觉得王崎也不过是这个领域的初学者……可是他现在的表现,真的是初学者吗?” Although in the question and answer, king Qi also many places explained with the mentality and suspicion......, but why, looks at his self-poise appearance, not only did probably these suspect?” “虽然刚才的问答之中,王崎又很多地方都用思路、猜想来说明……但是为什么,看他那镇定自若的模样,好像那些不只是猜想?” The hearts of some people started thump thump to jump. 更有一些人的内心开始怦怦跳了起来。 king Qi these ideas, had not shown, such frank and upright said...... this is the research concrete directions! If I proved......” “王崎那些想法,都还没有证明,就这样光明正大的说出来……这都是研究的具体方向啊!如果我证明出来了的话……” king Qi these words, carried over many issues. These issues are not special, specially difficult issue. They with the existing theory frame closely link, according to king Qi once made „the classification of issue 【When past king Qi obtained enjoying speech that delivered, was classification that Bourbaki School made, These are have the general theory issue. 王崎这一句话,就带出了许多问题。这些问题都不是什么特殊的、特别困难的问题。它们与现有的理论框架紧密结合在一起,按照王崎曾经做出的“问题的分类”【当年王崎获得道器之赏时发表的讲话,也就是布尔巴基学派做出的分类】,这些都是“产生一般理论的问题”。 If I go back now, writes down these issues, appropriates to oneself, can...... keep the history? 如果我现在就回去,将这些问题写下来,据为己有,是不是就可以……名留青史? A member had similar gloomy idea incessantly. 不止一个修士冒出了类似的阴暗想法。 However, after seeing facial expression that what outside and king Qi discussed that they cancelled this thought. 但是,看到了何外尔与王崎讨论的神情之后,他们又打消了这个念头。 Plagiarizes others 's idea and research direction, will be loathed in now law immortal say/way. 剽窃他人的点子、研究方向,在今法仙道中是会遭到鄙弃的。 In suspicious circumstances, in addition must know to avoid suspicion. But now, these issues are king Qi say in front of what outside. Only if their which collects to insert one actually I also to ponder now similar issue, I think that should......” otherwise, this free and unfettered member cannot help but feel that this is plagiarizing. 瓜田李下,尚且要知避嫌。而现在,这些问题都是王崎在何外尔面前说出来的。除非他们哪一个现在就凑过去插一句“其实我也思考过类似问题,我认为应该……”不然的话,这位逍遥修士就难免觉得这是“剽窃”。 Was loathed by a free time member...... is not worth it. 被一个逍遥期修士厌恶……是在是划不来。 Especially, this free and unfettered member is a leader of powerful school of thought. The song courtyard sends, although because of king Qi, had moved toward the deterioration inevitably, but as before is being able to stand in line number influence. 尤其是,这位逍遥修士还是一个强大学派的领袖。歌庭派虽然因为王崎,已经不可避免的走向了衰败,但是依旧是排得上号的势力。 If they really because of plagiarizing king Qi the idea were remembered by what outside, in next lasted thousand years ten thousand years of years, they even white will encounter many resistance. 如果他们真的因为剽窃了王崎的想法而被何外尔记住,在今后长达千年万年的岁月当中,他们将会平白受到许多阻力。 But after dropping own idea, more person one type...... indescribable shock. 而在打消了自己的想法之后,更多的人则有一种……难以言喻的震惊。 Is he really a beginner? 他真的是初学者吗? Similarly why is the beginner...... king Qi can see so many? 为什么同样是初学者……王崎就可以看到这么多? Regarding him, we can only have plagiarizing unexpectedly the idea...... 对于他,我们居然只能生出剽窃的想法…… In the exchange, Sun crashes gradually, 在交流当中,太阳渐渐坠落, king Qi stands up as usual, said: Today's I can exchange also so many. As one likes, if also wants to exchange, invites to come tomorrow again.” 王崎照例站起身,道:“今日的我能够交流的也就这么多了。诸位自便吧,如果还想交流,请明日再来。” When king Qi prepares to turn around to depart, what outside called out: Waits for, king Qi. Can discuss alone?” 就在王崎准备转身离去的时候,何外尔叫道:“等一下,王崎。能单独谈一谈吗?” king Qi nods, what outside surrounding space and time suddenly becomes fuzzy. Then, he and king Qi disappeared baseless. 王崎点点头,何外尔周围的时空突然变得模糊起来。然后,他和王崎就凭空消失了。 At the same time, on the summit, what outside looks at king Qi, shakes the head the forced smile: king Qi, you know that what you are making?” 同一时间,在山顶上,何外尔看着王崎,摇头苦笑:“王崎,你知道你在做什么吗?” king Qidao: Research arithmetic.” 王崎道:“研究算学。” You are handling the matter that queers very much.” What outside shakes the head: Your clear?” “你在做一件很得罪人的事情。”何外尔摇了摇头:“你明白的吧?” After all was I destroyed ideal that hoped the senior?” king Qiye is helpless sighing: But this is not my original intention. The Greek seniors were still one of people I most respected...... are only the arithmetic are to have comfortably, I just discovered it.” “毕竟是我毁了希前辈的理想?”王崎也是无奈的叹道:“可这也不是我的本意。希前辈至今仍是我最敬重的人之一……只是算学是自有自在的,我只不过发现了它。” I know.” What outside tone is severe: But, you continued unexpectedly along the master past mentality. This in his person eyes, you are despising the master.” “我知道。”何外尔的语气严厉:“但是,你居然沿着师父当年的思路继续走下去。这在他人眼中,你就是在蔑视师父。” This similarly is not my original intention.” king Qidao: I liked this mentality, do you always have no alternative but permits I to use? Furthermore, the senior you must look. I want to obtain, is not the form of symbol, but hidden in the mathematical formula and theorem the structure under of arithmetic......” “这同样不是我的本意。”王崎道:“我太喜欢这个思路了,您总不能不许我用吧?再者,前辈你也应当看得出来。我希望得到的,不是符号的形式,而是隐藏在算式、定理之下的算学的结构……” „Others may not think so.” What outside looks at king Qidao: Moreover you also offended even/including sect.” “其他人不一定会这么看。”何外尔看着王崎道:“而且你还得罪了连宗。” That group of narrow fellows, this does not let use, that does not let use, I cannot look.” king Qi shakes the head, feels very helpless. “那群狭隘的家伙啊,这也不让用,那也不让用,我看不过啊。”王崎摇摇头,也觉得挺无奈的。 Therefore, king Qi, joins the song courtyard faction.” “所以,王崎,加入歌庭派吧。” Regarding the song courtyard faction, I is also...... and other senior, did this topic extremely jump a point?”( To be continued.) “对于歌庭派,我也是……等一下啊前辈,这个话题是不是太过跳跃了一点?”(未完待续。)
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