woof Shuo wife hugged the child to enter the inside room, the miscellaneous personnel also removed, remained 67 writer in addition Zheng Xiaolong and permits non-. 汪朔媳妇抱着孩子进里屋了,闲杂人等也撤了,就剩六七个作家外加郑小龙和许非。 His clang clang clang one said that the nag exchanged a look with several people, continued to ask: „You thought that now does the movie to have the outlet?” 他锵锵锵一顿讲,老马跟几人交换个眼神,继续问:“那你觉得现在搞电影有出路么？” „ Minute of situation. The environment, the domestic state monopoly for marketing uniform purchase, the actor can make, the screenwriter can make, the director can make, but the film studio does not make money. A constructor of movie does not make money, it must probably shoot, because there is a target. “分情况。大环境来讲,国内统销统购,演员能挣点,编剧能挣点,导演能挣点,但电影厂挣不着钱。一部电影的制作方挣不着钱,它还必须得拍,因为有指标。 Perhaps this system was suitable before, now is obsolete. Therefore from the commercial point, does a movie future not to have. 这种制度在以前或许适用,现在已经过时了。所以从商业角度上,搞电影一点前途都没有。 But from the artistic angle, the fifth generation rises, the artistic film dominates, is the good time. Several are literary arena everyone, Teacher Mo Yan the pearls and jade before, pouring to attempt. ” 但从艺术角度上,第五代崛起,艺术片大行其道,正是好时候。几位都是文坛大家,莫言老师珠玉在前,倒可以尝试一把。” He did not have to say straightforwardly, but everyone understood, the movie was good to become famous, was precisely international. 他没直白说,但大伙都懂,电影好成名,且是国际性的。 „How do you feel the soap opera environment?” Liu Zhenyun asked. “那你觉着电视剧环境怎么样？”刘震云问。 „Prosperous, is absolutely better than the movie.” “欣欣向荣啊,绝对比电影好。” „This saying to be interesting, the soap opera does not sell the ticket, how to be better than the movie?” Wei people asked. “这话有意思,电视剧不卖票,怎么还比电影好？”魏人问。 „Dissemination form different......” “传播形式不一样……” This involves the media range, he is as far as possible easy to understand, „ soap opera, although does not sell the ticket, but the number of television is increasing progressively doubled and re-doubled, it is said now several million, may cross hundred million in the future. Moreover the area is big, city stage 1 million, province stage ten million/countless, CCTV 1.1 billion. 这个涉及到传媒范围,他尽量通俗易懂,“电视剧虽然不卖票,但电视机的数量在成倍递增,据说现在几千万台了,将来可能过亿。而且覆盖面积大,市台百万,省台千万,央视11亿。 Meanwhile, the domestic economy grows, the enterprise increases, the environment of competition is intense. Over thinks, must have the popularity. 与此同时,国内经济增长,企业增多,竞争环境激烈。想出头,就得有知名度。 Therefore the television station and enterprise have a bridge inborn, is the advertisement, this is two's nature and demand decision. On that day 24 hours, the effect of advertisement compartment when the difference was also different. 所以电视台和企业天生有一道桥梁,就是广告,这是二者的性质和需求决定的。那一天24小时,广告在不同时间段的效果也不一样。 When the enterprise realized, when a greatly hot play can have the influence that is inconceivable, will hold money to make you make a movie. Because in this time, the advertisement effect is definitely strongest. ” 当企业意识到,一部大热剧可以产生难以想象的影响力时,会捧着钱让你拍戏。因为在这个时间段,广告效果肯定最强。” „......” “……” The words stir up the people to ponder, Zheng Xiaolong said: „Has the prerequisite, your work perfect, making the enterprise confident.” 一番话惹得众人沉思,郑小龙道:“不过有个前提条件,你的作品得过硬,让企业有信心。” „Right, the alley starts......” “没错,胡同只是开始……” permits non- gesticulated, Zheng Xiaolong is understanding, that meaning is: «Longs for that 16 Years of» has this potential, the audience surface of theme is broadest. 许非比划了一下,郑小龙会意,那意思是:《渴望十六年》有这个潜质,题材的受众面最广。 Passed the long time, horse health/guard asked woof Shuo, „how?” 过了半晌,马卫都问汪朔,“怎么样？” „Must, this boy is I have seen clearest one.” “必须的啊,这小子是我见过最门儿清的一个。” He also asked Mo Yan, „how?” 他又问莫言,“怎么样？” „I feel very good.” “我觉得很好。” The nag asked one by one, achieves consistently, said: „ Did not say a moment ago asks you to help? Is such matter, several of us prepare to set up a creation center, does the film and television specially. At present 12, are the literary worlds. 老马挨个问了一圈,达成一致,才道:“刚才不说找你帮忙么？是这么回事,我们几个准备成立一家创作中心,专门搞影视。目前有12位,都是文学界的。 We belong cross-bank, a little experiences except for the new moon master, others do not understand. You and dragonet have the unit, is not good to join, asked you to be an adviser, instructing. ” 我们属于跨行,除了朔爷有点经验,其他人都不懂。你和小龙有单位,不好加入,就请你们当个顾问,给指导指导。” This saying gives surface very much. 这话就很给面儿。 Presenting is the big shot, his 20-year-old young man, said instructs. 在座皆是大佬,他20多岁的后生,说指导指导。 „......” “……” permits Feixian looks at Zheng Xiaolong, immediately responded, since opposite party on the scene, was equal to tacitly consenting. He thinks, said: „Several teachers said that this creation center, I first understood that does become?” 许非先看郑小龙,随即反应过来,对方既然在场,就等于默许了。他想了想,道:“几位老师说说这个创作中心,我先了解一下成么？” Therefore the nag starts to explain. 于是老马开始解释。 This idea is chats to talk, woof Shuo and horse health/guard coordinate, creation group that wants to do a literary and artistic salon nature. The name got up, called the seahorse the film and television creation center. 这点子是侃大山侃出来的,汪朔和马卫都牵头,想搞一个文艺沙龙性质的创作团体。名字都起好了,叫海马影视创作中心。 Liu Yiran, Wu Bin, Surrey, Ge Xiaogang and others, 12 people. woof Shuo is legal person and director, Ma Weidu is a secretary-general. 另有刘毅然、吴滨、苏雷、葛小刚等,共12人。汪朔是法人兼理事长,马未都是秘书长。 permits Feiting the egg hurts, asked: „Do you calculate the company or the industry association?” 许非听的蛋疼,问:“你们算公司还是行业协会？” „Private group. Does the company, to do the industry the words is not convenient, is also constrained.” “民间团体吧。搞公司、搞行业的话不方便,也拘束。” „Do you invest?” “那你们自己投资么？” „Had a look to say again, just crossing the threshold pitch darkness, therefore invited you.” “看看再说,刚入门一抹黑,所以才把你俩请来啊。” ! 得！ permits non- listens on two characters: Working as a volunteer. 许非听完就俩字:玩票。 Turns into the type the story, is a sense of achievement ; Turns into the image the type, is a sense of achievement. This group of people are fresh, fun, makes such organization. 把故事变成铅字,是一种成就感;把铅字变成影像,又是一种成就感。这帮人就是新鲜,好玩,才弄这么个组织。 „ I told the facts, as long as one group of people gathered to incite the thing together, except for having a common goal, definitely also wants to make an actual benefit. “我实话实说啊,但凡一帮人聚到一块鼓捣东西,除了志同道合,肯定也想挣点实惠。 Now the script desolate, the movie and soap opera are wild, but the teachers are everyone, writes definitely to have the advantage. 现在剧本荒,电影和电视剧都荒,而老师们都是大家,写起来肯定有优势。 The movie had nothing saying that the system was placed there. Soap opera, we hold the beginning would rather. The marketability production, according to the quality and demand sells the script outward. ” 电影没什么说的,体制摆在那里。电视剧方面,倒不如咱们开开先河。市场化生产,按质量和需求往外卖剧本。” „Specifically said.” Su Tong dao. “具体说说。”苏童道。 „ For example we thought that this theme, the audience will definitely like, that contacts the television station on own initiative. The discussion is appropriate, we publish the script, they give money. “比如我们觉得这个题材,观众肯定会喜欢,那就主动联系电视台。商谈妥当,我们出剧本,他们给钱。 Or the television station wants to make what play, but lacks the script, we can also meet this work. 或者说,电视台想拍什么剧,但是缺乏好剧本,我们也可以接这个活儿。 Each volume of many, sets prices according to quality. Even can add the enterprise, directly from supporting the link starts to discuss, wins over all parties to obtain benefits. ” 每集多少,按质论价。甚至可以把企业加起来,直接从赞助环节开始谈,争取各方都能获益。” Actually now the television station makes a movie, illuminates this way. The key in the quality and demand, so many writers in the same place, is inborn influential . Moreover the initiative is also very essential. 其实现在电视台拍戏,也照这个路数。关键在质量和需求,这么多作家在一块,天生具有影响力,而且主动性也很关键。 At the beginning of the seahorse was established, is loose, works as a volunteer purely. After «Hope» broadcasts, everyone saw the soap opera upper limit, the enterprise hot money also came, this burst out the enthusiasm. 海马成立之初,非常松散,纯玩票。等《渴望》播出后,大家看到电视剧上限了,企业热钱也过来了,这才迸发出积极性。 From 12 people, develops the peak more than 40 people. 从12人,发展到巅峰时的40多人。 However afterward dismissed, the primary cause is the income re-steams is too slow, for example volume of 300 dollars, must wait to broadcast, gives, must wait 1-2 years. 不过后来解散了,主要原因是收益回笼太慢,比如一集三百块钱,要等播出后才给,得等个1-2。 The writer is personalized, writes alone fortunately, cooperating to be easy contradictory, is not quite well distributed. 还有作家极具个性,单独执笔还好,合作起来容易出矛盾,不好调和。 permits non- feels was a pity, if really develops the seahorse, the position of domestic screenwriter is not the extent that lowly. 许非觉得挺可惜,如果真把海马发展起来,国内编剧的地位也不至于如此低下。 He thinks that anything no one knows, but the words perceived. Makes money, who dislikes money to be many? 他想什么没人知道,但话都听进去了。挣钱嘛,谁嫌钱多啊？ „, That settled.” “得咧,那就说定了。” The horse health/guard pats the thigh, „14 people, two enrolling advisers, will be open for business to receive a guest several days later.” 马卫都一拍大腿,“14个人,两位挂名顾问,过几天开张接客。” „Custom, that called to display great politeness in receiving guests welcomes guests.” “俗,那叫倒屣迎宾。” „Few Jie treasures poor, I who talked was hungry, horse Ye treated, rubbed one to go again?” woof Shuodao. “少杰宝贫,侃的我都饿了,马爷请客,再搓一顿去？”汪朔道。 „Becoming, is walking.” “成啊,走着走着。” The nag looks at the watch, unknowingly in the evening, the greeting people set out, looked for an inn. 老马一看表,不知不觉傍晚了,招呼众人起身,又找了个馆子。 The place is lavish, the price is astonishing. 地方阔气,价格惊人。 The nice wine good vegetable/dish, to eat and drink, another talks about. The writers and writers are different, having looking like woof Shuo who can say, has implicit looking like Liu Heng, is listening in low spirits. 好酒好菜,吃吃喝喝,又一顿神侃。作家和作家还不一样,有能说的像汪朔,有含蓄的像刘恒,就闷头听着。 permits non- non-stop looking at the watch, suddenly beckons: „Boss, can the television start?” 许非不停看表,忽然一招手:“老板,电视能开么？” „Can, you want to look......!” “能啊,您想看……哎哟！” The boss adjusts Beijing , Taiwan anxiously flurriedly, „almost forgot, today broadcasts the alley.” 老板急慌慌调到京台,“差点忘了,今儿播胡同。” „Alley? «Alley Others» second?” Liu Zhenyun said. “胡同？哦,《胡同人家》第二部吧？”刘震云道。 „This play is good, good that the day selects.” Liu Heng said one rarely. “这剧不错,日子挑的好。”刘恒难得说了一句。 „Calculates double happiness descend on the house?” Su Tong asked. “算双喜临门么？”苏童问。 „Calculates, calculates absolutely!” “算,绝对算！” One group of people drank quite a while, happen to wants to rest, shifted to the television neatly. 一帮人喝半天了,正好想休息,齐刷刷转向电视机。 ( Also has......) (还有……)