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#441: The worry of Swedish Imperial Family Academy of science

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The worry of Black Science & Technology System document Chapter 441 Sweden Imperial Family Academy of science studying the tyrant if really can solve the controllable nuclear fusion the issue, a research institute also is really not anything, even is more exaggerating point treatment can consider. 学霸的黑科技系统正文卷第441章瑞典皇家科学院的烦恼如果真的能解决可控核聚变的问题,一栋研究所还真不算什么,甚至是更夸张一点地待遇都是可以考虑的。 After all China is one is good at the flexible country, but the introduction of international state-of-art talent forever is one of the useful personnel key points. 毕竟华国是一个善于变通的国家,而国际尖端人才的引进永远是人才工作的重点之一。 And does not go to the response of manages domestic academic circle. 且不去管国内学术界的反应。 As is getting more and more near from October/ten months , not only because of Physics that Lu Zhou this name has a headache, in the Nobel Prize in Chemistry appraisal committee of Stockholm, for this name is also having a headache. 随着距离十月越来越近,因为陆舟这个名字而头疼的不只是物理学界,远在斯德哥尔摩的诺贝尔化学奖评审委员会,同样也在为这个名字而头疼着。 Swedish Imperial Family Academy of science, situated in a research institute building environment quiet and beautiful corner/horn. 瑞典皇家科学院,位于研究院大楼环境清幽的一角。 Orloff Rahmstrom who just ended a Nobel Prize in Chemistry committee internal conference, is sitting before the desk, is reading the paper in hand. 刚刚结束一场诺贝尔化学奖委员会内部会议的奥洛夫・拉姆斯特伦,正坐在办公桌前,看着手中的论文。 „Physics? The range that you browse may be really widespread.” Read paper in the colleague hand, Peter Brzeginsky professor eyebrow that similarly just attended the conference lifted lifting, interested say/way. “物理？你涉猎的范围可真广泛。”看了眼同僚手中的论文,同样刚刚参加了会议的彼得・布热津斯基教授眉毛抬了抬,饶有兴趣道。 „I not in research physics, but this paper caused a big stir in Physics recently probably, I hear several professors to discuss, the acquaintance who therefore looks for the understanding helped make one to take a look.” “我并没有在研究物理,只是这篇论文最近好像在物理学界引起了不小的轰动,我听到好几个教授都在讨论,于是就找认识的熟人帮忙弄了一份过来瞧瞧。” Regarding mathematical formula that in the paper displays, Orloff definitely cannot understand, after all the specialty is unsuitable. 对于论文中罗列的数学公式,奥洛夫肯定是看不懂的,毕竟专业不对口。 But this does not hinder him to unify on hand, refers to the review of professional, understood that this paper was actually splendid where, or actually solves which to puzzle a Physics many years of issue. 但这并不妨碍他结合手边的,参考专业人士的点评,理解这篇论文究竟出色在哪里,或者说究竟解决了哪个困扰物理学界多年的问题。 Peter stared at the paper to look at a while, asked with the indefinite sound: „Lu Zhou?” 彼得盯着论文看了一会儿,用不确定的声音问:“陆舟？” „Right, is this fellow who makes one have a headache about,” stopped the moment, Orloff continues to say with the tone of cracking a joke, „said that will not permit us also to be able in the nomination of Nobel Physics prize to see him next year.” “没错,就是这个让人头疼的家伙,”停顿了片刻,奥洛夫用开玩笑的语气继续说道,“说不准明年我们还能在诺贝尔物理学奖的提名上看到他。” Orloff Rahmstrom, Swedish Imperial Family University of Science and Technology machine chemistry professor as well as Imperial Family academician, is one of the 18 years of Nobel Prize in Chemistry appraisal committee members. 奥洛夫・拉姆斯特伦,瑞典皇家理工大学机化学教授以及皇家科学院院士,同时也是18年诺贝尔化学奖评委会委员之一。 But stands in his nearby Peter Brzeginsky, is the biochemistry domain big cow from Stockholm University, is the committee member of academician as well as this Nobel Prize in Chemistry appraisal committee of Imperial Family academy of science. 而站在他旁边的彼得・布热津斯基,是来自斯德哥尔摩大学的生物化学领域大牛,同时也是皇家科学院的院士以及这届诺贝尔化学奖评审委员会的委员。 In this month, Lu Zhou this name, almost contracted Nobel committee more than 50% disputes, they held several meetings, in has not reached the agreement about this name subject. 这一个月里,陆舟这个名字,几乎承包了诺贝尔委员会一半以上的争议,以至于他们开了好几次会,都没有在关于这个名字的议题上达成共识。 What is quite interesting, the focuses of these arguments revolve to participate in the evaluation actually not the achievement, after all lithium sulfur battery „shuttle effect” the lithium cathode arborescent crystal issue, has the research results of level. 比较有意思的是,那些争论的焦点倒不是围绕着参与评选的成果本身,毕竟无论是锂硫电池的“穿梭效应”还是锂负极枝晶问题,都是相当有水平的研究成果。 Moreover, not only applied field. 而且,不只是应用领域。 last year, „the theoretical model of galvanochemistry interface structure” he established, in the computational chemistry and surface chemistry even was the coherence physics domain, caused a degree big stir, and obtained the honor of Hoffman medal. 就在去年,他建立的“电化学界面结构的理论模型”,在计算化学、表面化学甚至是凝聚态物理领域,都引起了程度不小的轰动,并且获得了霍夫曼奖章的荣誉。 However, the Nobel prize after all is not the general honor, needs to consider also is not only only some aspect or some domain issue. 然而,诺贝尔奖毕竟不是一般的荣誉,所需要考虑的也不仅仅只是某一方面或者某一领域的问题。 Indeed he has made very splendid achievement, but actually still is also not infrequent in the achievement of lining up splendidly as before. 诚然他已经做出了很出色的成果,但同样出色却依旧还在排队的成果也不在少数。 Many people even arranged dozens years of team not to elect, some people have even arranged from the maturity to were buried just to be commented...... 很多人甚至排了几十年的队都没选上,有的人甚至一直从壮年排到了入土才刚刚被评上…… The Nobel Prize in Chemistry appraisal committee's internal opinion has very big difference, some people think that he and his research results were too young, but also some people think that young cannot become the reason of neglecting the achievement importantly. 诺贝尔化学奖评委会内部的意见存在着很大的分歧,有的人认为他和他的研究成果都太年轻了,但也有的人认为年轻并不能成为忽视成果重要性的理由。 For example Professor Orloff, is one of the latter viewpoint supportors. 比如奥洛夫教授,便是后者观点的赞成者之一。 Perhaps in his opinion the modified pdms material and hcs-1 still wait for considering, although after all these two achievements the prospect of industrialization is broad, but could not have been the prominent degree on the contribution of chemistry domain. However the theoretical model of that galvanochemistry interface structure, in his opinion, actually reached the prominent level without a doubt. 在他看来改性pdms材料和hcs-1或许还有待考虑,毕竟这两项成果虽然工业化的前景广阔,但就化学领域的贡献而言还达不到突出的程度。不过那个电化学界面结构的理论模型,在他看来,却是毫无疑问地达到了突出的水准。 Recently in a year, regarding the theoretical model that he built, many scholars made the quite valuable achievement. 最近一年里,围绕着他所建立的理论模型,不少学者都做出了相当有价值的成果。 Did not say exaggeratingly, the theoretical model that he builds, redefined surface chemistry division/discipline, opened the new research approach for the computational chemistry. 毫不夸张的说,他建立的理论模型,重新定义了表面化学这门学科,也为计算化学开辟了新的研究思路。 „2017 chemistry prize has conferred froze the electron microscope, the DNA repair mechanism research of 15 years of prize even simply is the thing that Carolyn Scar Medical School should consider. Jokes aside, if we did not consider that the chemistry achievement in the true sense, our Nobel Prize in Chemistry appraisal committee, can change name to the biological prize appraisal committee simply.” “2017年的化学奖已经颁给了冷冻电镜,15年获奖的dna修复机制研究甚至干脆就是卡罗琳斯卡医学院应该去考虑的东西。说真的,如果我们再不考虑真正意义上的化学成果,我们诺贝尔化学奖评审委员会,可以干脆改名成生物奖评审委员会了。” Hears these words, Professor Peter who is engaged in the biochemistry direction research, somewhat coughed awkwardly lightly. 听到这句话,从事生物化学方向研究的彼得教授,有些尴尬地轻咳了一声。 „The like this friend of mine, the biochemistry should not be part of chemistry......, moreover freezes the electron microscope, cannot be completely the biological domain achievement, actually can also be in the analytical chemistry the research about methodology?” “别这样我的朋友,生物化学也是化学的一部分……而且冷冻电镜,并不能完全算是生物学领域的成果,其实也可以算是分析化学中关于方法论的研究吧？” Orloff shakes the head, „this word game is not meaningful, we know actually what it changes is the lifeform, is the chemistry.” 奥洛夫摇了摇头,“这种文字游戏没有任何意义,我们都知道它究竟改变的是生物,还是化学。” Some people have conducted very interesting statistics, in the five second-level divisions/disciplines of chemistry, what rewards are most is the high polymer and the biochemistry giving, occupies the proportion even to achieve 1/3, the biochemistry won 26 chemistry prizes, gave the structural biology 6 times. 有人做过一个很有意思的统计,在化学的五个二级学科里,诺奖给的最多的是高分子和生物化学,所占比例甚至达到三分之一,其中生物化学包揽了26次化学奖,还有六次给了结构生物学。 In comparison, in the true sense issues to the chemist, the organic synthesis methodology has only won 12 prizes, was more miserable as for the abiochemistry...... 相比之下,真正意义上颁发给化学家的,有机合成方法学只拿过12次奖,至于无机化学就更惨了…… If regards as a giant molecule dna, then Nobel appraises the choice of committee truly not to have the problem, logically can also justify oneself. 如果将dna看成一颗大分子,那么诺贝尔评奖委员会的选择确实没有毛病,在逻辑上也能自圆其说。 However who knows, this to the chemist is unfair. 然而谁都知道,这对于化学家而言是不公平的。 After all besides the chemistry prize, the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine is the place that the biologists should go. 毕竟除了化学奖之外,诺贝尔生理学或医学奖才是生物学家们更应该去的地方。 Now freezing the electron microscope won, must say that a chemists opinion does not have, that is impossible. 现在连冷冻电镜都获奖了,要说化学家们一点意见都没有,那是不可能的。 Looked at eye own old friend, Peter sighed gently. 看了眼自己的老朋友,彼得轻轻叹了一口气。 „I can understand your mood. He is truly prominent in the work of surface chemistry domain enough, public lecture of that Berlin I, although has not looked at the scene, but learns many professors to exchange with MPI afterward, but their views without any exception very high......, but I must say, this achievement was really young.” “我能理解你的心情。他在表面化学领域的工作确实足够突出,那场柏林的报告会我虽然不在现场看过,但事后与马普学会多位教授都交流过,而他们的看法无一例外的很高……但我必须说的是,这项成果实在是太年轻了。” Orloff asked back: „What relations does this have? When we to ‚the design and synthesis of molecular machine’ conduct the promulgation, is the consideration different this technology in the future possible contribution?” 奥洛夫反问道:“这有什么关系？我们对‘分子机器的设计与合成’进行颁奖时,考虑地不一样是这项技术在未来可能产生的贡献吗？” „Therefore that promulgation truly is controversial, came as a surprise to many. However these that we must say are actually not the key points, the key of issue was he was too young,” Professor Peter shook the head, „24-year-old nominator......, if conferred him the Nobel prize, he will become the youngest prize-winner without a doubt.” “所以那一届颁奖确实存在争议,也出乎了很多人的意料。不过我们要说的这些其实都不是重点,问题的关键还是他太年轻了,”彼得教授摇头,“24岁的提名者……如果将诺贝尔奖颁给他,毫无疑问他将成为最年轻的获奖者。” Before then, the youngest Nobel Prize winner is 25-year-old Lawrence Prague. 在此之前,最年轻的诺贝尔奖得主是25岁的劳伦斯・布拉格。 Although in Nobel's will has not stipulated the age of prize-winner to over many years, but not everyone is glad to break the rule, breaks the historical record. 虽然诺贝尔的遗嘱中并没有规定获奖者的年龄必须超过多少岁,但并非所有人都乐于打破规则,刷新历史上的纪录。 Only if, he is very outstanding. 除非,他真的很优秀。 However this subjective issue, is quite hard to judge, only if at the Nobel prize committee has the surface chemistry direction scholar, can stand in the work that an objective angle better description he does...... 然而这种主观上的问题,相当难以判断,除非诺贝尔奖委员会中恰好有表面化学方向的学者,能够站在客观的角度更好的描述他所做的工作…… But it is a pity that in these committee members, the scholar who has not studied the surface chemistry direction. 但遗憾的是,在这些委员中,并没有研究表面化学方向的学者。 Actually Orloff also very hesitates, he insists is right. 其实奥洛夫自己也很犹豫,他所坚持的到底对不对。 But he felt, this Nobel prize should consider the work of pure chemistry domain. 但他只是觉得,这一届诺贝尔奖应该考虑纯粹的化学领域的工作。 In other words, they should give the theoretical model promulgation of galvanochemistry interface structure. 或者换句话说,他们应该给电化学界面结构的理论模型颁奖。 After all to the 21 st century, wanted to make such important achievement in the theoretical chemistry domain, was really difficult...... 毕竟到了21世纪,想要在理论化学领域作出如此重要的成果,实在是太难了……
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