InLawrence'shumorousenormousdegreeenlivened the atmosphere, when enters the reporterinquired the link, before himcharminghumoroushad not won the attention of media reporterforhim, the vision of allmedia reporters, centralizedonLi Mu, theyhadtoomanyissues to inquire that satinLawrenceLi Mu.
劳伦斯的幽默极大程度上活跃了现场气氛,但是,当进入记者提问环节的时候,他之前的风趣幽默并没有为他赢得媒体记者的关注,所有媒体记者的目光,都集中在李牧身上,他们有太多的问题想要询问坐在劳伦斯身边的李牧。Whensomeinnumerablemedia reportersraise handto hint, Li Musaid with a laugh: „Is sorry, IcomefromChina, thereforefirstlooks after the Chinamedia, the opportunity of firstinquirywas askedby the reporters of ChinaCCTV.”
当有无数媒体记者举手示意的时候,李牧笑着说:“抱歉诸位,我是从华夏来的,所以还是先照顾一下华夏媒体,第一个提问的机会就由华夏央视的记者来问吧。”
The microphonegave a 20-year-oldCCTVpress woman, opposite partyalthoughassuredLi MucertainlytoCCTVinquiryopportunity, butdidn't expectLi Muunexpectedlysobroad and levelgaveoneself the opportunity of firstinquirydirectly.
话筒给了一个20多岁的央视女记者,对方虽然笃定李牧一定会给央视提问机会,但是没想到李牧竟然会如此坦荡的直接将第一个提问的机会给了自己。
The press womanstands, askedLi Mu: „Mr. Li, nowmanysomefinancesas well asinternetand other specializedcommentaries, theythink that youchoose the US (America)capitalto discussSeries C roundsfinancing of Muye Science and Technology, the ultimategoal is ableto go on the marketinUS (America)for the enterprise, Iwant to askyou, inyourplan, Muye Science and Technologywhetherreallyfavorsgoes on the marketinUS (America)?”
那女记者站起来,问李牧:“李先生,现在有很多金融以及互联网等方面的专业评论,他们一致认为您选择美国资本谈牧野科技的c轮融资,最终的目的是为了企业能够在美国上市,我想请问您,在您的规划里,牧野科技是否真的倾向于在美国上市？”Li Muhearsthisissue, shows a faint smile, saidbroadly and level: „Right, ItrulyfavorlettingMuye Science and Technologycango on the marketinUS (America)in the future.”李牧听到这个问题,微微一笑,非常坦荡的说:“没错,我确实倾向于让牧野科技将来可以在美国上市。”
The press womenasked: „Can thatspeak the reason that youdo that?”
女记者问:“那能不能讲一下您这么做的原因呢？”Li Musaidearnestly: „As the internetindustrymost developedmarket, the understanding of US (America)society and capitaltointernet, contains and approvaldegree, mustfarexceedothercountries, the internetindustry and entityindustryare different, internetenterprisemostassetsare the intangible assets, the concreteappraisal of intangible assetneeds the market environmentto be used as the basis, to make the Muye Science and Technologymarket valueobtain the maximumapproval, theninevitablemustchoosein the maturestmarket, otherwisehas certainly the seriousunderestimatedphenomenon, the developmenttoenterprisehas very tremendouseffect.”李牧认真说道:“作为互联网行业最发达的市场,美国社会以及资本对互联网的理解、包容以及认可程度,都要远超其他国家,互联网行业与实体行业不同,互联网企业大部分的资产都是无形资产,无形资产的具体评估非常需要市场环境做基础,如果想让牧野科技的市值得到最大限度的认可,那么必然要选择在最成熟的市场上市,否则一定存在被严重低估的现象,对企业的发展有很大的影响。”Li Mudoes not know why CCTVreporteraskedwhetherownfuturedecidedinissue that US (America)goes on the market, the ambition that butMuye Science and Technologygoes to USto go on the marketnowis very obviousmatter, otherwiseoneselfare impossibleto run up toUS (America)to carry outfinancing, simultaneouslyis higher than such bigsoundinUS (America).李牧不知道央视记者为什么问自己将来是否决定在美国上市的问题,不过牧野科技赴美上市的野心现在已经是非常明显的事情了,否则自己也不可能跑到美国来搞融资,同时又在美国高出这么大的动静。Reason thatdoes not considerto go on the marketinternally, is notLi Muis unpatriotic, butispresentMuye Science and Technologyis not suitableto go on the marketinternally.
之所以不考虑在国内上市,并非李牧不爱国,而是眼下牧野科技不适合在国内上市。First, the domesticAstockshave very strictthreshold, moreover not suitablenowadaysinternetenterprise, particularlyprofit-makingtarget;
首先,国内的a股有很严格的门槛,而且也不适合现今的互联网企业,尤其是盈利性指标;Astockrequestlisted enterprisemustgainwithin certain amount of timecontinuously, butinternetenterprisemajorityis burningmoney, Muye Science and Technologyalthough can also depend onYYandTown of Paradisenowreluctantlyis self-sufficient, butthis is also only the presentaspect, oncefinancessuccessfully, fevermoneystartsimmediately, by that time, Muye Science and Technologyaccountlost/carryingprofitwill be perhaps scary, oneyear of accountlost/carryingprofithundreds of millionsUSDeventenhundred millionUSDaboveare the normal phenomena, fundamentallydoes not meet the requirements of Astock;
a股要求上市企业必须在一定时间内连续盈利,但是互联网企业大部分都是在烧钱,牧野科技现在虽然还勉强能靠着yy和天堂小镇自给自足,但是这也只是眼前的局面,一旦融资成功,烧钱将立刻启动,到那个时候,牧野科技账面负盈利恐怕会吓死人,一年账面负盈利几亿美元甚至十亿美元以上都是正常现象,从根本上就不符合a股的要求;Next, Astocksdo not have the internetenterprisenow, in addition the internetenterpriseinsufficientunderstanding and approval of entirecapital environment, Muye Science and Technologycango on the marketinAstockseven, the estimate valuewill still be far lower than the expectation, in that case, is equal tofrombreaking the both legs.
其次,a股现在还没有互联网企业,再加上整个资本环境对互联网企业都缺乏足够的理解与认可,就算是牧野科技能在a股上市,估值也会远低于预期,那样一来,等于自断双腿。
After CCTVreporterinquiredfinished, reporter who Li MusecondchoseUS (America)cnn.
央视记者提问结束之后,李牧第二个选择了美国cnn的记者。
the cnnreporteris a middle-agedmale of suit and dress shoes, heaskedLi Mu: „Mr. Li, the Muye Science and Technologypresentdevelopment speedhas made the entireUS (America)internetindustryshock, moreoverbecomes the direct competitionopponentwithMicrosoftmsndirectly, whatIwantto ask, in your eyes, whichinternetenterprises does US (America)have to become the Muye Science and Technologypowerfulcompetitor?”
cnn的记者是一位西装革履的中年男性,他问李牧:“李先生,牧野科技现在的发展速度已经让整个美国互联网行业为之震惊,而且直接与微软msn成为了直接竞争对手,我想问的是,在您的眼里,美国有哪些互联网企业有可能成为牧野科技的有力竞争对手？”Li Muponders over the moment, said: „Whatwithout a doubtis, US (America)hasgreatinternetenterprise, Google, isMicrosoft, Oraclewait/etc, is the example of Muye Science and Technologylearn/study, butin my opinion, IhopeactuallyallUS (America)biginternetCorporationcanbecome the Muye Science and Technologycompetitor.”李牧思忖片刻,说:“毫无疑问的是,美国有许多伟大的互联网企业,无论是谷歌,还是微软、甲骨文等等,都是牧野科技学习的榜样,不过在我看来,我倒是希望所有美国大型互联网公司都能成为牧野科技的竞争对手。”Li Muthissaying, manyreportersrevealsurprisedly, the meaning in Li Muthis saying to be very obvious, hehopes that canbecome the competitorwithUS (America)allbiginternetCorporation, subtextwill beMuye Science and Technologywill launch the attackto the domain that allopponentswill be on own initiative.李牧这话一出,不少记者都表露惊讶,李牧这话里的意思很明显,他希望能够跟美国所有的大型互联网公司成为竞争对手,潜台词就是牧野科技会主动向所有对手所在的领域发动进攻。
The reporterclosely examinesone: „Mr. Li, Iwhethercanunderstandis, Muye Science and Technologydoes not satisfy the presentdevelopment direction, in the futuretomanydomaindevelopment?”
那记者追问一句:“李先生,我是否可以理解为,牧野科技并不满足于现在的发展方向,未来会向更多的领域发展？”Li Munods: „To me, I the Muye Science and Technologyimprisonmentin the immediateInstant Messengersoftware arena, Ido not hope that has the opportunity to make the Muye Science and Technologycrosswisedevelopment, pull open the front, once the frontpulls open, will naturally have moreopponents.”李牧点了点头:“对我个人来说,我不会把牧野科技禁锢在即时通讯软件领域,我也希望有机会能够让牧野科技横向发展、拉开战线,战线一旦拉开,自然也会拥有更多的对手。”Then, " Wall Street Journal » reporterinquiredtoLi Mu: „Mr. Li, according to our knowledge, in the Venture Capitalindustrygives the Muye Science and Technologyestimate valueto surpass200hundred millionUSDnow, yourto200hundred millionUSDestimate valueswhethersatisfies?”
接着,《华尔街日报》的记者向李牧提问:“李先生,据我们了解,现在风投行业内给牧野科技的估值已经超过了两百亿美元,请问您对两百亿美元的估值是否满意？”Li Mulaughs, althoughdoes not know that the reporter of Wall Street Journalaskedthisquestionout ofwhatmentality, butheopened the mouthto reply: „Imustreplyhonestlyyouthisissue, first, 200hundred millionUSDestimate valuesIwhethersatisfies, Icantellyouclearly, thispriceproposedinsomestage,Iamaffirmsatisfied, butthatstageis notnow;Next, Ithought that mostVenture Capitalthoughtspeeds, cannot keep up with the Muye Science and Technologydevelopment speed, in this case, to achieve the cooperation, theninevitableistheypursuesourspeeds, cannotstopbecause ofthembecause of the development of Muye Science and Technology. Iftheycannot catch up, theygive the Muye Science and Technologyestimate value, has no practical significance.”李牧哈哈一笑,虽然不知道华尔街日报的记者问这种问题是出于什么心态,但他还是开口回答道:“我必须诚实回答你这个问题,首先,两百亿美元的估值我是否满意,我可以明确告诉你,这个价格在某个阶段内提出,我是肯定满意的,但那个阶段不是现在;其次,我觉得大部分风投的思维速度,跟不上牧野科技的发展速度,这种情况下,如果想达成合作,那么必然是他们来追赶我们的速度,因为牧野科技的发展不会因为他们而停下来。如果他们始终追不上,那他们给牧野科技的估值,就没有任何实际意义。”In the Li Mu'swordsis very clear, 200hundred millionUSDestimate valuestopresentMuye Science and Technologyarenothingattractions, if the capitalwantsto throwMuye Science and Technology, mustopenone to catch up with the Muye Science and Technologydevelopment speedtruly the price.李牧的话里已经很明白,两百亿美元的估值对现在的牧野科技来说是没有任何吸引力的,如果资本想投牧野科技,必须要开一个真正能追上牧野科技发展速度的价格。Soonbefore, Li Muinitial price170hundred millionUSDgot up discussed that the mediasurprisedlyinLi Mu'sexcessivelyare self-confident, at that timemanymediawroteto attackhim, thinks that hisofferwas basically impossibleto obtain the approval of anyVenture Capital, but after didn't expectsuchshorttime, because of the unceasingsuccesses of Li Mumanystrategies, Venture Capitalhas surpassed200hundred millionUSDto the Muye Science and Technologyestimate valueon own initiative, butnow, Li Muoccupies the initiativecompletely, 20 billionhehas looked down upon, butthistime, does not have anymediadareto taunttoLi Mulikebeforeagain.
不久之前,李牧开价170亿美元起谈的时候,媒体就已经惊讶于李牧的过分自信,那个时候不少媒体的都撰文抨击过他,认为他的报价基本上不可能得到任何一家风投的认可,但是没想到这么短的时间之后,因为李牧多个策略的不断成功,风投主动给牧野科技的估值就已经超过了200亿美元,而现在,李牧完全占据了主动权,200亿他已经瞧不上眼了,而这一次,没有任何媒体再敢像之前那样对李牧冷嘲热讽。
The reporter of New York Timesinquired: „Mr. Li, youused less than twoyears, created an estimate valueto surpass200hundred millionUSDinternetempires, thisaround the worldwas the unthinkablegreat success, youthought that iswhaturgedyoursuccess, and success of Muye Science and Technology?”
《纽约时报》的记者提问:“李先生,您用了不到两年的时间,就缔造了一个估值超过两百亿美元的互联网帝国,这在全世界范围内都是匪夷所思的巨大成功,那您觉得到底是什么促使了您的成功、以及牧野科技的成功？”Li Musaid: „Chinahas an archaismto call‚beneficial conditions of timeliness , favorable geographical conditions , and unity and coordination of the people’, what the generalmeaning said that wantsto win a war, needs the excellentclimatic conditions, the advantageousgeographical environment and stablemorale of troops, the climatic conditionscanunderstandare the opportunity, the geographical environmentcanunderstandis the environment, the morale of troopscanunderstand that for the innermost feelings of teammember, butMuye Science and Technologyjusthadthesethreepoints.”李牧说:“华夏有一句古语叫‘天时地利人和’,大概意思说的是,想打赢一场战争,需要有绝佳的气候条件、有利的地理环境以及稳定的军心,气候条件可以理解为机遇,地理环境可以理解为环境,军心则可以理解为团队成员的内心所向,而牧野科技刚好就是具备了这三点。”
The inquiry and replywhole of firstseveralissueare quite harmonious, Li Mu'sreplied that alsosatisfies the quizzerquite, then, Li Muthenhopes the media that on own initiativechoosesseveralinternetindustriesinquired.
前几个问题的提问与回答整体比较和谐,李牧的回答也让提问者比较满意,接下来,李牧便主动希望挑选几家互联网行业的媒体来提问。Whatfirsthas the opportunityisYahoo, what letsLi Mudidn't expectis, the issue of ReporterYahoocomes upto be belligerent.
第一个得到机会的是雅虎,不过让李牧没想到的是,雅虎记者的问题一上来就火药味十足。„Mr. Li, it is well known, the speed of internetindustryalthoughdevelopmentis fast, but the bubbleis serious . Moreover the speed of renewaliterationis also express, as a model of immediateInstant Messengersoftware, YYtrulyis at present popularin the US (America)market, thenyoufelt, the aspect that YYthisreceiveuserwelcomehow longcancontinue? Oryoufelt when YYthisbubblewill burst?”
“李先生,众所周知,互联网行业虽然发展的速度非常快,但是泡沫化严重,而且更新迭代的速度也特别快,作为一款即时通讯软件,yy目前在美国市场确实非常受欢迎,那么您觉得,yy这种受到用户欢迎的局面能够持续多久？或者说,您觉得,yy这个泡沫什么时候会破裂？”Li Mudidn't expect, the firstpeer'sinquiryunexpectedlysowill be unfriendly.李牧也没想到,第一个同行的提问竟然会这么不友好。Howeverpoursalsoconforms toGuo Degangthatclassicalopinion, only then the peeris an enemy.
不过倒也符合郭德纲那句经典的言论,只有同行才是冤家。Let alone, Yahooin 2000, the market valuerosethousandhundred millionUSDscales, at presentis the internetindustryenterpriseranked the first, some Yahoopersonacting coolarrogance can also understandbut actually.
更何况,雅虎在2000年的时候,市值就攀升到了千亿美元的规模,目前是互联网行业排名第一的企业,雅虎人有些装逼的傲气倒也可以理解。Therefore, CaucasianReporterYahoo of Li Mulooks atthatfaceprovocation, shows a faint smile, said: „althoughyouare the Yahooreporter, butIdid not determine that youtosomeinternetindustrymanyunderstanding, said that in my eyes, YYwasonejust the needingproductandhad the extremelyhighnon-interchangeability, butin comparison, asPortalwebsiteas well asfreemailboxservice, Yahoonotjustneedingproduct . Moreover the interchangeabilitywas too high, Ihad confidence that will makeYYdevelopin the next ten yearsunceasingly, butYahoo, ifdid not transformas soon as possible, perhapswill startto go down hillin the next several years, ifyouwantto look at the bubble burst the good play, waitedto look atYahooQuiterealistic.”
于是,李牧看着那位一脸挑衅的白人雅虎记者,微微一笑,说:“虽然你是雅虎的记者,但我不确定你本人对互联网行业到底有多少了解,这么说吧,在我眼里,yy是一个刚需型产品而且有极高的不可替代性,而相比之下,作为门户网站以及免费邮箱服务,雅虎本身并非刚需型产品,而且可替代性太高,我有把握让yy在未来的十年内不断发展,但雅虎如果不尽快转型的话,恐怕在未来的几年之内就会开始走下坡路,如果你想看泡沫破裂的好戏,还是等着看雅虎比较现实。”InUS (America)internetenterprise, most interestingisYahoo, becausein the Li Mueye, Yahooexcept forat the beginning ofinternetis bornlooked forrightbeyond the development direction, otheralltimeare making mistakes.美国的互联网企业里,最有趣的就是雅虎,因为在李牧眼里,雅虎除了在互联网诞生之初找对了发展方向之外,其他的所有时间都在犯错。Missed the low priceto purchase the Googleopportunity, waited to purchase the discoverycould not actually have afforded;
错过了低价收购谷歌的机会,等想收购的时候却发现已经买不起了;Tenhundred millionUSDcanpurchaseFacebook, but the critical momentdoes not have the business ethics, wants to further keep prices downto8.5hundred millionUSD, finallybyMarkZuckerbergcategoricallyrejects, when is quiet the faceis asking for the offers of over10hundred millionUSD, Facebookalreadycompletelynotbirdit;
原本十亿美元就可以收购faebook,但紧要关头没有商业道德,想进一步压价到8.5亿美元,结果被马克・扎克伯格断然拒绝,再恬着脸开出超过十亿美元的报价时,faebook已经完全不鸟它了;By08years, Yahoohad been defeatedfor successive several years, MicrosofttoresistGoogle, asked for the offers of 500hundred millionUSDtoit, finallyby the proudYahoorejection;
到了08年,雅虎已经连续多年落败,微软为了对抗谷歌,给它开出了500亿美元的报价,结果被骄傲的雅虎拒绝;
By 2016, Yahoofinallyfound the seller, took over a businessby48hundred millionUSDpricesbyUS (America)Instant MessengergiantVerizon......
到了2016年,雅虎终于找到了卖家,被美国通讯巨头verizon以48亿美元的价格接盘……In the Li Mueye, Yahoocould be said asfrom2000resting on one's laurels that startedto be shiftless, moreoverrested on one's laurelsat the same time, went down hillwhilehas not forgottenacting cool, whatwas most laughable, Yahooso manyyearsininternet of vigorous developmentas well asmovedin the internetdomain, rareachievements that does not have anywas worthpraising, this was really funny.
在李牧眼里,雅虎可以说是从2000年就开始不思进取的吃老本,而且一边吃老本、一边走下坡路还一边不忘装逼,最可笑的是,雅虎这么多年在蓬勃发展的互联网以及移动互联网领域中,难得的没有任何值得称道的建树,这实在是太搞笑了。Butnow, funnyReporterYahoolooks down uponMuye Science and Technologyunexpectedly, thismakesLi Muquiteuncomfortable, thereforedoes not take into considerationsuchmultimedia, does not have scruplesYahooor the industryfirst, opens the resentmentdirectlyin the presence of everyone.
而现在,搞笑的雅虎记者竟然瞧不起牧野科技,这让李牧颇为不爽,所以也不顾及这么多媒体在,更不顾忌雅虎还是行业第一,直接当众开怼。Reporterdidn't expectLi Muunexpectedlysodirectopeningresentment, subconsciousquestioning: „The Yahoomarket valueat leastisMuye Science and Technology6-7time, whyyouthink that the Yahoobubblecanburst, rather thanMuye Science and Technology?”
那记者没想到李牧竟然会如此直接的开怼,下意识的追问:“雅虎的市值至少是牧野科技的六七倍,你凭什么认为雅虎的泡沫会破裂,而不是牧野科技？”Li Musaid with a smile: „Depends onpresentYahoo is not not possibleto affectMuye Science and Technology, on the contrary, someMuye Science and TechnologyactuallymanyaspectscanaffectYahoo.”李牧笑道:“就凭现在的雅虎根本不可能影响到牧野科技,相反,牧野科技却有很多方面可以影响到雅虎。”
The reporter is also young and impetuous, such a was chokedbyLi Mu, thatshareas the Yahoostaffproudwithfromwas stimulatedmostly, hesaidagitatedly: „How does Muye Science and TechnologyaffectYahoo? Pleaseillustrate with examples.”
那记者也是年轻气盛,被李牧这么一呛,那股子作为雅虎员工的骄傲与自大都被激发了出来,他语气激动的说:“牧野科技如何影响雅虎？请你举例说明。”Li Mushows a faint smile, said: „Ihad not preparedvigorouslyto promote PO Box YYinentire US, has not thoughtmustget onlineYYEnglishPortalwebsiteimmediately, sinceyouraised the objectiontoMuye Science and Technology, Imight as welldidtoyoudemonstrate, actuallymakingyouhave a lookisYYcanaffectYahoo, YahoocanaffectYY.”李牧微微一笑,道:“我原本没准备在全美大力推广yy,也没有想过要立刻上线yy的英文门户网站,不过既然你对牧野科技提出异议,那我就不妨做给你演示一下,让你看看究竟是yy能影响雅虎,还是雅虎能影响yy。”
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