MHAG :: Volume #7

#643: About collecting taxes

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As for you said that ‚kingdom population are many, the land are many, the land tax should be also many’. This you were really wrong! Do you know initially conquered Messapi and Peuceti time, the law of council promulgation is ‚three years of tax-free’. ” At this point, Mersis discontented looked at Davos, because this proposition stems from the mouth of this king: „The land tax of Peuceti area started to levy until last year, now Daunians is conquered by us, but we was not only no good, but must spend the big money to construct the path, bridge, temple and military compound...... the money of daily state treasury the flower like running water to go out, you said that which my also had more money to send the pay to the senior statesmen!” 至于你说‘王国人口多,土地多,土地税应该也不少’。这你还真错了！你知不知道当初征服梅萨皮、普切蒂的时候,元老院颁布的法令是‘三年免税’。”说到这里,梅尔西斯略带不满的看了一眼戴弗斯,因为这个提议正是出自这位国王的口:“普切蒂地区的土地税直到去年才开始征收,现在道尼人是被我们征服了,可我们不但没有任何好处,还要花大笔的钱去修建道路、桥梁、神庙、军营……每天国库的钱都像流水一样的花出去,你说我哪还有更多的钱给元老们发薪酬！” „Good, Mersis, do not complain, several Talent money, I believe that can push from the state treasury by your ability.” Davos smiles is looking to him. “好啦,梅尔西斯,你就别抱怨了,几个塔连特的钱,我相信以你的能力是可以从国库中挤出来的。”戴弗斯微笑着看向他。 Mersis whispered two, does not speak. 梅尔西斯嘀咕了两句,不说话了。 „It seems like you to me proposed a moment ago has no big opinion, my is only a sketchy suggestion, but also needs you to hold careful discussing and discussions, puts out one in detail, to proposal, returns to me again scrutinizes. However-” Davos raises up a finger, reminded: „Principles must remember, just like the pay of ordinary official, wants the more pay for more work!” “看来你们大家对我刚才的提议都没有什么大的意见,我这只是一个粗略的建议,还需要你们去进行仔细的商量和讨论,拿出一个详细的、可执行的提案,再交还给我审阅。但是-”戴弗斯竖起一根手指,提醒道:“有一个原则要记住,和普通官员的薪酬一样,要多劳多得！” „Should the more pay for more work, the idle senior statesman be short as the matter stands, they should struggle to hold the post of the duty.” Sesta claps the hands and shouts praise, in council some truly senior statesmen, except for resolution time lifts to raise hand beside, other time cannot feel their existences. “就应该多劳多得,这样一来无所事事的元老就少了,他们应该会争着去担任职务。”塞斯塔拍手叫好,元老院里确实有一些元老,除了决议的时候举举手之外,其他时间感觉不到他们的存在。 „This proposal is responsible for discussing by your several formulates, tomorrow morning will give me to verify, in the afternoon I must take it to go to council.” Davos earnest saying. “这份提案就由你们几个去负责讨论制定,明天上午交给我审核,下午我就要拿着它去元老院。”戴弗斯认真的说道。 Cornelius looked at others, after getting everyone affirmative response, then earnest reply: „Does not have the issue, your majesty.” 科尔内鲁斯看了看其他人,得到大家肯定的回应之后,然后认真的回答:“没有问题,陛下。” „Then I said my another idea again.” Davos facial expression slightly heavy said slowly: „ Mersis had mentioned a moment ago, the territory in kingdom is increasing in the population of expanded and kingdom, but the consumption of state treasury is also increasing. These two years by the end of the year, the state treasury almost did not have the earnings, this is dangerous to a country. If by some chance there is the big disaster or a war happened, we do not have enough reserve gold and silver, has no way well deals...... “接下来我再说说我的另一个想法。”戴弗斯神情略显沉重的缓缓说道:“刚才梅尔西斯已经提到了,王国的领地在扩大、王国的人口在增多,但同时国库的消耗也在加大。这两年到了年底,国库几乎没有盈余,这对于一个国家来讲是危险的。万一有大的灾难或者战争发生,我们没有足够的储备金银,就没法更好的去应对…… The business tax income of kingdom is growing every year, this expansion with the territory is related, cannot separate with the effort that Marigi makes. ” 王国的商税收入每年都在增长,这跟领地的扩大有关,更与马里吉所做出的努力分不开。” Facing the praise of Davos, Marigi confidently by it. 面对戴弗斯的赞扬,马里吉坦然受之。 „ But the growth of business tax is a slow process, impossible today is ten Talent, tomorrow will be to increase to 100 Tarrant. The income of land tax is quite fixed, to Daunians the long-term perspective stemming from kingdom, Mersis you do not need to worry tax-free, several years later, the land tax will have a big growth, but the land tax were not quite many, do not expect that it can solve embarrassed of finance. “但是商税的增长是一个缓慢的过程,不可能今天是十个塔连特,明天就是增加到一百塔兰特。土地税的收入则比较固定,对道尼人免税是出于王国的长远考虑,梅尔西斯你也不用着急,再过几年,土地税就会有一个大的增长,但土地税本就不太多,你也不要期望它就能够解决财政的窘迫。 If not several years ago developed ‚Dino's care’ this thing, made an additional income for the state treasury, today's fiscal difficulty. ” 如果不是几年前开发了‘提诺的眷顾’这个东西,为国库挣得了一笔额外的收入,今天的财政会更加的困难。” The words, Cornelius and Lysias slightly feeling is at this point ashamed, in the past they had strongly opposed „Dino's care” implementation, thinks that this is gambling, will let people morally degenerate. In fact, this situation has not appeared, instead made the state treasury have more income. 话说到这里,科尔内鲁斯、吕西阿斯都微感羞愧,当年他们可是极力反对过“提诺的眷顾”的实行,认为这是一种赌博,会让民众道德败坏。事实上,这种情况并没有出现,反而让国库有了更多的收入。 „But ‚Dino's care’ income on 100 Talent about, will not have a bigger change...... we to consider every year to increase more sources of wealth now again!” The tone that Davos aggravates makes in the people heart jump. “但是‘提诺的眷顾’收入每年也就一百个塔连特左右,不会有更大的变化……现在我们应该考虑再增加更多的财源了！”戴弗斯加重的语气让众人心中一跳。 Cornelius careful asking: „Your majesty, is it possible that are you want to increase taxes?” 科尔内鲁斯小心的问道:“陛下,您莫非是想要加税？” Davos is narrowing the eye, glanced his one eyes slantingly, said: „ What do additional tax have is not right? Before you often said that Greek city-state has not collected the direct tax the tradition, now you have a look, in Mediterranean other Greek strong nations which receiving tax wasn't higher than Theonia? 戴弗斯眯着眼睛,斜瞟了他一眼,说道:“加税有什么不对吗？以前你们常说希腊城邦没有收直接税的传统,现在你们看看,地中海的其他希腊强邦中哪一个收的税不比戴奥尼亚高？ Before Syracuse can reach as high as 30 in the tax that the Dionysius period collected. Present they collect 5 war specific taxes every year, declared to the outside to guard against Carthage, who knows that they are guarding who?! 以前锡拉库扎在狄奥尼修斯时期收的税能高达30。现在的他们每年收一种五的战争特别税,对外宣称是为了防备迦太基,谁知道他们是在防备谁？！ Sparta was needless saying that its land concentrated to arrive in the national hand completely, usually assigned to the citizen food that only then can eat to the full reluctantly, other money were used in the armament. 斯巴达就不用说了,它的土地完全集中到国家手中,平时分配给公民的只有勉强能吃饱的食物,其他的钱全部用于军备。 But Athens, I believe that you have known. At the end of last year, they practiced a special tax system- property tax, 1/5 of each Athens citizen realized property were registered to make an entry, every year gathered some properties 1% to two, this may be higher than the citizen land tax that we gathered! 而雅典,我相信你们都已经知道了。在去年年底,他们就实行一种特别的税制-财产税,每位雅典公民实际财产的五分之一被登记入册,每年收取这部分财产的百分之一至二,这可比我们收取的公民土地税高多了！ Corinth, Argos and Megara are increasing taxes. Thebes, it is completely not to mention controlled by Sparta, Kun Kim who hands over far exceeds the tax that his citizen paid. The direct tax that these city-state collect is much higher than the Theonia land tax, the Theonia citizen should feel that rejoiced very much! 还有科林斯、阿哥斯、麦加拉都在加税。底比斯就更不用说了,它完全被斯巴达控制,所交的贡金远超过了其公民所交纳的税。这些城邦所收的直接税远远高于戴奥尼亚的土地税,戴奥尼亚公民应该感到很庆幸！ As the Theonia king, I must consider kingdom's governance, must care about the life of people, therefore increases taxes cannot certainly add casually, is prudent. However a tax, I discovered that it will not affect the life of people, moreover should receive. ” 作为戴奥尼亚的国王,我既要考虑到王国的治理,也要关心民众的生活,因此加税当然不能随便加,要慎重。但是有一种税,我发现它不会影响到民众的生活,而且也应该收。” Davos stops the words, the people fall into the thinking. 戴弗斯停住话语,众人陷入思索。 „The is tax that your majesty, you said?” Mersis anxious asking. “陛下,你说的这种税是？”梅尔西斯急切的问道。 „Loses- produces- tax.” The Davos sinking sound puts out a word. “遗-产-税。”戴弗斯沉声吐出一个词。 Inheritance tax? Five rotating president and some Sesta doubts, Mersis and Marigi looking pensive. 遗产税？五位轮值主席和塞斯塔都有些疑惑,梅尔西斯、马里吉则若有所思。 „If Ansitanos here, he understands.” Davos has a look at their expressions, teased one, then explained: „ This tax has implemented for several hundred years in Egypt, when property everyone must shift the property to the family members or others, the court in acknowledging this shift effective will also extract its property 110, gives the tax of country as the payment. “如果安西塔诺斯在这里,他就会明白。”戴弗斯看看他们的表情,调侃了一句,然后解释道:“这种税在埃及已经实行了几百年,当财产所有人要将财产转移给亲人或者其他人时,法庭在承认这种转移有效的同时也会抽取其财产的110,作为缴纳给国家的税。 I think that we can also implement the inheritance tax in the kingdom, because it has many advantage. First, it can increase the tax revenue of kingdom. Second, can adjust the gap between rich and poor between citizens. 我认为我们在王国内也可以实行遗产税,因为它有很多的好处。第一,它可以增加王国的税收。第二,能够调节公民间的贫富差距。 This point is especially important, a kingdom initial citizen, if the unceasing saving meritorious service, perhaps had dozens mu at age 50. If a successful kingdom merchant, was fiercer, his life at least can accumulate next dozens, even over a hundred Talent. Just joined the kingdom and to go all out compared with new citizen diligently for the survival with these, the children of these old citizens do not need to be diligent make the contribution to the kingdom, can cross comfortably, even several generations inherits very much, they can easily become the domestic big landlord and big rich and powerful people. Continuously for a long time hence, will cause the envy and hate of ordinary citizen, does not help the stability of kingdom, therefore we need to adjust with the inheritance tax. ” 这一点尤为重要,一个王国最初的公民,如果不断的积攒功勋,到50岁时恐怕就有几十亩。如果是一个成功的王国商人,就更厉害了,他的一生至少能攒下几十、甚至上百个塔连特。和那些刚刚加入王国、为生存而拼命努力的新公民相比,这些旧公民的孩子不用努力得为王国做贡献,就能过得很舒服,甚至几代传承下去,他们就能轻易的成为国内的大地主、大富豪。长此以往,会引起普通公民的忌恨,也不利于王国的稳定,所以我们需要用遗产税来调节。” „The citizens strive for the meritorious service and wealth diligently, was not lived to cross well by oneself, can inherit to give the descendants?! Implements the inheritance tax, perhaps will discourage their enthusiasm!” Asking of Lysias doubts. “难道公民们努力的争取功勋和财富,不就是让自己生活过得好,能够传承给子孙吗？！实行遗产税,恐怕会打击他们的积极性吧！”吕西阿斯疑惑的问道。 „Gains the meritorious service to cross diligently well by oneself, kingdom fully supports. We did not give the reward of all kinds of material and honor! The share place and medal...... even provided the fine study place for the children of citizen. However many wealth leave behind to the next generation, only the arrogant extravagant heart of training next generation citizen, making it lack the struggle the power, but becomes seeks after to lead a life of comfort, is not willing to offer for the kingdom. Therefore we can establish to collect the inheritance tax some conditions, guides the rich citizen to use the wealth reasonably. For example, the donation construction public building, can reduce collects the inheritance tax the ratio...... this also to make the ordinary citizen regard these wealthy men in a friendly way, this is also collects the inheritance tax the third advantage.” Davos patient answered. “努力获取功勋让自己过得好,王国全力支持。我们不是给予了各种各样的物质和荣誉的奖励吗！份地、勋章……甚至为公民的孩子们提供了优良的学习和训练的场所。但是过多的财富遗留给下一代,只会培养下一代公民的骄奢之心,使其缺乏奋斗的动力,而变得贪图享乐,不愿为王国奉献。因此我们可以设置收取遗产税的一些条件,来引导富有的公民合理的使用财富。比如,捐赠修建公共建筑,就可以减少收取遗产税的比率……这样也会让普通公民友好的看待这些富翁,这也是收遗产税的第三个好处。”戴弗斯耐心的解释道。 „But your majesty, some citizen original wealth are not many, but must collect the inheritance tax, was some are extremely severe?” Cornelius said one discretely. “但是陛下,有些公民本来财富就不多,还要收取遗产税,是不是有些太过严苛了？”科尔内鲁斯谨慎的说了一句。 „Your this issue raises well!” Davos approved one, serious saying: „I think that do not collect the inheritance tax to all kingdom citizens. How many properties has not to collect the inheritance tax? How many citizens of property has to collect 5% inheritance tax? How many citizens of property has to collect 10% inheritance tax? How many citizens of property has to gather 20% or 30 inheritance tax? After...... five rotating presidents get down, discussed with Mersis and Marigi together, puts out a sketchy draft, we arrive at council to raise the bill again. I think that this can be a long and vigorous discussion, but ultimately it will be established, I am very confident, because each citizen in kingdom hopes that own child is the hero who positive enterprising, can create a more magnificent merit rather than only knows waste that makes merry! But our senior statesmen hope the later kingdom is one stable, the harmonious society rather than the rich and powerful people run amuck, civilians not to have the place to stick an awl, likely to cause the bad aspect of riot momentarily!” “你这个问题提得好！”戴弗斯赞了一句,郑重的说道:“我认为并不是对所有的王国公民都要收取遗产税。拥有多少财产不收遗产税？拥有多少财产的公民收取百分之五的遗产税？拥有多少财产的公民收取百分之十的遗产税？拥有多少财产的公民收取百分之二十或三十的遗产税？……五位轮值主席下去之后,同梅尔西斯和马里吉一起商讨,拿出一个粗略的草案,我们再到元老院去提起议案。我想这会是一个漫长而又激烈的讨论,但最终它会被确立下来,我对此很有信心,因为王国的每位公民都希望自己的孩子是一个积极进取、能创造比自己更辉煌功绩的英雄而不是只知道吃喝玩乐的废物！而我们元老们更希望以后的王国是一个稳定的、和谐的社会而不是富豪横行、平民无立锥之地、随时可能引起暴乱的糟糕局面！” „Your majesty, I thinks that the senior statesmen will realize your pains, gather the bill of inheritance tax certainly to be established!” Androlis indicated own attitude immediately. “陛下,我想元老们都会体会到您的苦心,收取遗产税的法案一定会确立起来！”安塔奥里斯当即表明了自己的态度。 Others also expressed the support, Mersis is display most positive. 其他人也先后表示了支持,这其中梅尔西斯表现最为积极。 „Then we discussed «Entire Greece Scholar Congress».” Mentioned this matter, on the Davos face also presented both dignified and exciting look: „By our Kingdom of Theonia present strength, is in the entire Mediterranean Greece country is most powerful. However in many places, in Greece, there people does not think particularly Theonia is Greek city-state country, a very big tribe alliance that considering Theonia that instead despises comprised of one group of barbaric, backward and ignorant barbarians. We need to make other Greeks understand us, understood our Kingdom of Theonia are not only powerful, but also the civilization is advanced, the culture is radiant! The example that if the dozens years ago Greek world must learn from is Athens, then today Theonia Thurii is the center of Greek culture! Allow the Greek world's people to understand us, is intimate with us, this is I proposed that especially conducts " Entire Greece Annual academic meeting » real motive!” “接下来我们来谈一谈《全希腊学者大会》。”说起这个事,戴弗斯脸上也呈现出既凝重又兴奋的神色:“以我们戴奥尼亚王国现在的实力,已经是整个地中海希腊国家中最强大的。但是在很多地方,尤其是在希腊本土,那里的民众不认为戴奥尼亚是希腊城邦国家,反而鄙夷的认为戴奥尼亚只是由一群野蛮、落后、愚昧的蛮夷组成的一个很大的部落联盟而已。我们需要让其他希腊人了解我们,了解我们的戴奥尼亚王国不但实力强大,而且文明先进,文化璀璨！如果说几十年前的希腊世界要学习的榜样是雅典,那么今天戴奥尼亚的图里伊才是希腊文化的中心！让希腊世界的民众了解我们,亲近我们,这就是我特地提议举办《全希腊学术年会》的真实目的！” Listened to the Davos fervent words, some people state of mind are excited. 听了戴弗斯慷慨激昂的话,众人都有些心绪激动。 Lysias said immediately: „Your majesty, «Entire Greece Scholar Annual meeting», although is mainly held in the Theonia academy, but this is also the Thurii glory. Our Thurii city hall will make best effort to assist the Theonia academy to hold the congress that this scholar converges.” 吕西阿斯当即说道:“陛下,《全希腊学者年会》虽然主要是在戴奥尼亚学园举行,但这也是图里伊的荣耀。我们图里伊市政厅将会尽最大努力协助戴奥尼亚学园办好这个学者云集的大会。”
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