MSG :: Volume #23

#2260: By the light of food warning world gloomy extinguishing


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Weak the words of oneself power and prestige, the average people will not say, is the commissioner is representing the bureaucrat of entire European government face countenance let alone like this. 弱了自己威风的话,一般人都不会去说,更何况是事务官这样代表着整个欧洲政府颜面的官僚。 He pats certainly oneself chest to guarantee, this is only minor matter one. Even if said that their Europe does not get by the boundary of Middle East, relies on the remarkable reputation in the past leaving behind, enough his smooth this matter arranging. 他当然是拍着自己的胸脯保证,这只是小事一桩。哪怕说他们欧洲已经不在中东的这个地界混事了,凭借着往昔留下的卓越声名,也足够他顺顺利利的把这件事给安排下来。 This is opens the eye to talk nonsense, Nick Fury is well aware. Must say the reputation, do not look at Europe near Middle East, it even could not compare in the US of other side of the ocean. Although said that the reputation of US is mostly negative, is that type makes the middle easterner hate to clench jaws. But that good and evil also compares the obscure borderline person to be stronger. 这是睁着眼睛说瞎话,尼克.弗瑞心知肚明。要说声名,别看欧洲就在中东边上,它甚至都比不了远在大洋彼岸的美国。虽然说美国的声名大都是负面的,是那种让中东人恨得咬牙切齿的。但那好歹也比默默无闻的边缘人物要强吧。 Naturally, this saying Nick Fury will not state clearly. Since the commissioner has been striking one's chest to guarantee, then he is naturally glad to see him succeed. 当然,这话尼克.弗瑞不会明说。既然事务官已经拍着胸脯保证了,那么他自然是乐见其成的。 Also is this commissioner has the skill, in situation that actually in the channel completely cuts off fiddled with a new path. Also is less than a day of time, he in one group of under help that people who must not exposed to the light, delivered Alexander's front the request of meeting. 也算是这个事务官有本事,硬是在渠道全然断绝的情况下愣生生的捣鼓出了一个新路子来。也就是不到一天的功夫,他就在一堆见不得光的人的帮助下,把会见的请求递送到了亚历山大的面前。 Alexander receives this invitation time, is rinsing the hot pot in old in hotel with him together. The keen learning ability as well as as a wise monarchy who when as historically the famous precocity monarchy, he maintains is young has should have the broad mind/bosom that. 亚历山大接到这份邀请的时候,正在老于的宅邸里和他一块涮火锅。作为历史上有名的早慧君主,他保持着年少时就拥有的敏锐学习力以及作为一个英明君主该有的宽阔胸怀。 Therefore, regarding teasing hot pot him had not seen in the past dining way, as well as can be the complex chopsticks use technique to him absolutely, he achieved the admission and contains, and is quick, these two development for own hobby. 因此,对于涮火锅这种他以往从来没有见过的用餐方式,以及对他来说绝对算得上是复杂的筷子使用手法,他做到了接纳与包容,并且很快的,就把这两项发展为了自己的爱好。 This is natural. In fact, any life returns to today in the person of ancient Greece age, and contacted ingredients art the words about big glutton country's, the reason of having no said a non- character regarding these things. 这是理所应当的。事实上,任何一个生活在古希腊时代的人回到今天,并且接触到了关于大吃货国的料理艺术的话,都没有任何的理由对于这些东西说一个不字。 More than 2000 years ago ancient Greece, daily cooking way, only then two types, roast and cook, this was establishes in them first a step point under the premise of system ceramic technology. Under the background with time, ancient China and Egypt has the same technology. But in then productive forces as well as under the craft development premise, everyone was the phase difference is actually similar, has no comparison. 两千多年前的古希腊,日常的烹饪方式只有两种,烤和炖,这还是建立在他们先一步的点出了制陶这门技术的前提之下。在同时代的背景下,只有古中国和埃及有相同的技术。而在当时的生产力以及工艺发展前提下,大家其实都是相差仿佛,没有什么好比较的。 At most in other words China special, in everyone uses the premise of knife and under ladle from the beginning, the denotation stretched out a usage of chopsticks. But in food's cooking way, everyone has no difference. 顶多就是说中国这边特殊一点,在大家一开始都用刀子和勺子的前提下,多延伸出了一双筷子的用法。但在食物本身的烹饪方式上,大家还是没有什么区别的。 This is a regret, although Alexander projected on the East from the West, to entering India, with is in China of Spring and Autumn Period Warring States period to only have separation of mountain, he is at that time impossible to contact what more special cooking way. 这是个遗憾,尽管亚历山大从西方打到了东方,一直到进军印度,和正处于春秋战国时期的中国只有一山之隔,他在那个时候还是不可能接触到什么更特殊的烹饪方式。 Bouillon of baked meat and stew, is he lives probably the entirety. The vegetables estimated that can only depend on the raw food, the fruit is also same. Therefore even if he is a king, he does not imagine, actually the good food can derive several many changes together. 烤制的肉食和炖煮的肉汤,大概就是他生活中的全部。蔬菜估计只能靠生食,水果也是一样。所以纵然他是君王,他也根本不会想象到,美食一道究竟能衍生出几多的变化。 old in is opens mind to him. As internally character who a Chinese who lives in a strange or foreign place in Middle East, can be the glutton, he is eating the research in this aspect, is the common person pats the horse misses absolutely. Even if said these family background power and influence, the generation of family property great wealth, not necessarily said that can compare favorably with his sharp-tongued. 老于算是给他开了眼界。作为一个客居在中东的中国人,一个在国内都算得上老饕的人物,他在吃这方面的研究,绝对是寻常人拍马都赶不及的。哪怕说那些出身权势,家财万贯之辈,也未必说能比得上他这一张刁嘴。 On the frame a copper pot, under is the fever red charcoal fire, what above is boiling has prepared the good consomme. 架上一只铜锅,底下是烧的通红的炭火,上面熬着的是早已经准备好的清汤。 Different from the way that traditional Donglaishun that type of clear water rinses the saucepans, old in approach adds on the boil that the tilapia mossambica makes an effort with the femur of fish bones and cow of Nile perch again, the flesh and blood boils to shreds to cook a pot milk to be white. Again with cutting pulpy lean meat froth repeated absorption impurity. 不同于传统东来顺那种清水涮锅的方式,老于的做法是用尼罗河鲈鱼的鱼骨、牛的大腿骨再加上罗非鱼使劲的熬煮,骨肉熬烂炖成一锅奶白。再用切的稀烂的精肉沫反复的吸收杂质。 Cooks the meat taste, while becomes the soup clear. Finally adds on the shallot and angelica dahurica , strawberry, elevated gastrodia, Chinese matrimony-vine and Jiang Pian, places in the scarlet coal to roll, that entered the flavor of marrow directly fresh. The lamb meat that in addition cuts presently rinses on the prescription, dips the point to bring the sauce of sesame seed and olive oil fragrance delivers toward the mouth. The kings who that flavor, lets Alexander this live taste to the utmost directly could not bear sigh with emotion about old in. 一边把肉味炖进去,一边把汤水变得清亮。最后再加上小葱、白芷、、草果、天麻、枸杞和姜片,放在赤炭上一滚,那直接就是鲜入了骨髓的味道。再加上现切的羊羔肉在汤头上一涮,蘸着点带着芝麻和橄榄油香味的酱料往嘴里一送。那味道,直接就让亚历山大这个活的极尽滋味的君王都忍不住对着老于感慨了起来。 Ate so many modern good food , old in the action of your country most made people feel shocking in the final analysis. Taste that this letting person is enchanted by, even if places in my time is regarded as to the salute of god, has more than enough to spare. The country of Eastern gold, really filled mysteriously.” “吃了那么多现代的美食,说到底了,到底还是老于你国家的做法最让人感到惊艳。这种让人迷醉的滋味,哪怕是放在我的那个时代里当做是对神的敬礼,都是绰绰有余的。东方的黄金之国啊,果然是充满了神奇啊。” No wonder that the Mt. Yali congress has such feeling, he biggest wildness looked, conquers the end of the world, referred to also has the Eastern China of reputation in Greece initially. 无怪乎亚历山大会有这样的感慨,他生前最大的野望,征服到世界的尽头,指的也就是当初在希腊已经有所声名的东方中国。 At that time had been in China of Spring and Autumn Period to have the silk to deliver, but this type only produced in the Eastern fabric has not emerged before the Silk Road, but through extremely few roaming commercial interchanges passed to the West. But even so, the West to this type of pinnacle fine fabric startled is a Celestial. 当时已经处于春秋战国的中国已经有丝绸产出,而这种只出产于东方的织物在丝绸之路还没有兴起之前,只是通过极少量的游商流传到了西方。可即便如此,西方还是对这种极致精细的织物惊为天人。 The 5 th century B. C. «Old testament» being called most beautiful fabric. But the Athena idol of Athens city, put on the silk to represent the mortal to her infinite respect. 公元前五世纪的《旧约》将之称为最美丽的织物。而古希腊雅典城的雅典娜神像,也被披上了丝绸来代表凡人对她的无限崇敬。 Perhaps the westerners never think in the world to have the so fine thing, but in their happy daydreams, the East also becomes a treasure to be innumerable, everywhere golden world. Alexander also has such expectation, initiates own expedition toward the East. 西方人或许从未想过世界上会有如此精美的事物,而在他们的美好遐想中,东方也成为了一个瑰宝无数,遍地黄金的世界。亚历山大也是带着这样的憧憬,向着东方发起自己的远征的。 He has never visited truly the long-awaited East. This is he has no regret during the life probably a biggest regret. 他从未真正踏足过自己所梦寐以求的东方。这大概是他无悔一生之中最大的一个遗憾。 If this bidding goodbye person said that old in is also listens. However Alexander is different, he is a real personality. Therefore hears this saying on first hearing, old in is also the cheek shakes, hit haha. 这话别人要是说了,老于也就是听听而已。但是亚历山大不同,他可是个真性情。所以乍一听闻这话,老于也是面皮一抖的,就打起了哈哈来。 Without is so great, this matter that you think, to put it bluntly actually is also the inevitable demand of development of social productive forces.” “没您想的那么了不起,这事,说白了其实也就是社会生产力发展的必然需求。” Arranged a dish lamb meat and a dish is passing the beef of marbling, old in takes advantage of a situation dao to have a cabbage to rinse toward the soup caldron, turns on a record player. 摆下了一碟子羊羔肉和一碟子透着大理石花纹的牛肉,老于就势捯起块白菜往汤锅里一涮,就打开了话匣子来。 Ancient nation to put it bluntly such several of your time. Egypt, Persia and Zhucheng nation and Indian various country as well as my hometown China. But said these different civilized states in the region that can be at from oneself rise, and becomes the temporary potential. A large part of reasons have the person, and there is an enough production method to guarantee that these lives save.” “您那个时代的文明古国说白了就这么几个。埃及、波斯、希腊诸城邦、印度诸国以及我的故乡中国。而之所以说这几个不同的文明国家能从自己所在的区域中崛起,并且成一时之势。很大一部分的原因就是有人,并且有足够的生产方式来确保这些人生存下去。” Cultivation absolutely is that time safest way, minimum from the present viewpoint before the history recalls, is nothing mature civilization can not develop under the premise of culivation technique, grows strong oneself.” “耕作绝对是那个时代最保险的方式,最起码的以现在的观点往历史前回溯,是没有哪个成熟的文明可以再不发展耕作技术的前提之下,把自身发展壮大的。” May be restricted in the time, is the expansibility of culivation technique, even if said that is several ancient nation types first uses the cultivation development method the country, was impossible saying that depended on the laborious work to meet everyone's warm and sufficient condition need only. Because cultivates is limited, the barren land even could not support the person, but the bountiful land often was the fat in many eyes. Therefore, always inevitable will erupt into the war. This is also the war most primitive slogan, actually to survive.” “可受限于时代,也是耕作技术的发展性,即便说是几个文明古国这种最先采用耕作发展方式的国家,也不可能说单靠辛苦耕耘就能满足所有人的温饱需求。因为耕作是受到限制的,贫瘠的土地甚至养活不了人,而富饶的土地往往则是很多人眼中的肥肉。为此,总是不可避免的会爆发战争。这也是战争最原始的口号,其实都是为了生存。” Water and earth?” Thinks most wars that oneself always see. Although said that majority has this and that reason, but sums up finally, goal actually on holding a more fertile land and rivers. “水和土?”想了想自己平生所见的大部分战争。虽然说大部分都有着这样或者那样的理由,但是归根到最后,目的其实还是在占有更肥沃的土地和河流上面。 Naturally, other goals. Woman who the man who for example kills the opposite party, robs the opposite party. But in the final analysis, this is also one type expands the civilized population in disguised form the way, but is way different equally good results from different methods. 当然,还有别的一些目的。比方说杀死对方的男人,抢走对方的女人。而说到底,这不过也是一种变相壮大自己文明人口的方式,只不过是方式不同的异曲同工而已。 Alexander approves old in these views, but he actually does not understand the social productive forces that this and he said have anything to relate. Therefore acting in a being open-minded spirit, he also put down the chopsticks very much simply, the serious its color opens the mouth said. 亚历山大认同老于的这些说法,但是他却并不明白这和他说的社会生产力有什么联系。所以本着一个不耻下问的精神,他也是很干脆的放下了筷子,郑重其色的开口道。 I am some am not quite clear, this and you said that what inevitable relation has?” “我还是有些不太明白,这和你说的,有什么必然的联系吗?” How can I say?” Looks at Alexander's conduct, old in also can only put down the chopsticks, formal. “怎么说呢?”看着亚历山大的做派,老于也只能放下了筷子,正儿八经了起来。 War, will cause two situations. One is the long-time opposition. Under premise that is unable to eliminate the opponent, several same influences will form a quite awkward aspect. Namely because the demand as well as slaughters created hatred and other reasons for a long time, is unable unilateral war stopping. Even if said that is unable to conduct the absolute quality big conflict, still sometimes perseverance small friction. But this, regarding the production resource of country, is the grain these can be a daunting challenge. You receive such war also to understand, one crowd of not matters produce soldier, and must consume the giant grain, what kind of challenge regarding the economy of country can be.” “战争,会导致两种情况。一个是长久的对立。在根本无法将对手消灭的前提之下,几个相同的势力会形成一种比较尴尬的局面。即因为自身需求以及长久厮杀所造成的仇恨等原因,根本无法单方面的把战争给停止下来。即便说无法进行绝对性的大冲突,也会有时常性的小摩擦。而这,对于国家的生产资源,也就是粮食这些的会是一个严峻的挑战。您领到过这样的战争也应该明白,一群不事生产并且还要消耗巨大粮食的士兵,对于国家的经济来说会是怎么样的挑战。” Alexander nods, he knows certainly in this all sorts. In this regard, the Zhucheng nation is a brightest example. 亚历山大点了点头,他当然知道这里面的种种。在这方面,希腊诸城邦就是一个最鲜活的例子。 Did not say that these small and weak city-states, said Athens and Sparta this pair of opponent only. They had a thorough understanding of the suffering during the long-time opposition. 不说那些弱小的城邦,单说雅典和斯巴达这对冤家对头。他们在长久的对立之中可是都吃透了苦头。 Athens because of the war, attaches with these in its nation city has the contradiction more and more. But Sparta left the hidden troubles of Helots Uprising for this reason. The temporary fine jade of two Greek areas are bright, actually displaces by Macedonia and Rome of promising youth, does not have the reason. Now, a large part of reasons were this deadlock consumed the national strength, and made the situation of Greek area more and more complication. Finally, makes them be incapable of preventing the rises of these promising youth. 雅典因为战争,和那些依附于它的邦城越来越有矛盾。而斯巴达更是为此埋下了黑劳士起义的隐患。两个希腊地区的一时瑜亮,却被后起之秀的马其顿和罗马取而代之,并非是没有理由的。如今来看,很大一部分理由就是这种僵持消耗了彼此之间的国力,并且让希腊地区的格局越来越复杂化。最终,才使得他们无力去阻止这些后起之秀的崛起。 Alexander increases the family fortunes. Therefore he looks is thorough than anyone. But because also just like this thorough, he is in more curious another situation old in mouth. 亚历山大就是这么发家的。所以他看得比谁都透彻。而也正因为这样的透彻,他才更加好奇老于口中的另外一个情况。 That, what is another situation?” “那么,另一种情况是什么呢?” Is unified, my your majesty. Takes the example with my motherland. In your left near that years, seven powerful nations, dominate respectively. Not only has the contradiction on land, and has the deep hatred of generation. To a certain extent, it may return to the road in Greece. However, in one wise not under your king's leadership, all these were ended.” “是统一,我的陛下。拿我的祖国来取例子。在您左近的那个时代里,七个强国鼎力,各自称雄。彼此之间既有着土地上的矛盾,又有着世代的血仇。从某种程度上来说,它是有可能重蹈希腊的覆辙的。但是,在一位英明不下于您的君王的领导之下,这一切被终结了。” „A kingdom, eliminated other six opponents in the invincible way, and included all lands and people in own subordinate. Does with you same......” “一个王国,以战无不胜的方式消灭了其他的六个对手,并且把所有的土地和人民都囊括在了自己的麾下。就和您所做的一样......” „The land of length and breadth provided enough many giving birth spaces to the people, the insufficiency of culivation technique can definitely replace with more lands. The time is progressing, the yield per mu of grain is also enhancing, this met more population needs in disguised form. Stimulates the population grew at the same time, makes more people invest into this production operation.” “广袤的土地给人民提供了足够多的生养空间,耕作技术的不足完全可以用更多的土地来代替。时代在进步,粮食的亩产也在提高,这变相的满足了更多的人口需求。刺激了人口增长的同时,也让更多的人投入到这种生产作业之中。” What is most essential, the stable political power and rule, making the people not need in two status, namely between soldier and farmer frequent transformation, does not need them to go own laborious obtained fill at the war, in this appetite giant nearly bottomless giant beast mouth. The cultivation can the long-time and stable development, but this also causes, the grain on society starts the enormous wealth.” “最关键的是,稳定的政权和统治,让人民不需要在两种身份,即战士和农民之间频繁的转化,也不需要他们去把自己的辛苦所得填补在战争,这个胃口巨大的近乎无底的巨兽口中。耕作可以长久而稳定的发展下去,而这也就使得,社会上的粮食开始极大的富裕。” After everyone's warm and sufficient condition satisfied in this manner, then natural people start to have other pursues. Does not seem like the present, the rich entertainment can divide to leave too many energy, in that time, the best entertaining fashion manifests in basic necessities of life these aspects forever.” “当所有人的温饱以这种方式满足了之后,那么自然人们就开始有其他的追求。不像是现在,丰富的娱乐会分走人们太多的精力,在那个时代里,最好的娱乐方式永远体现在衣食住行这些方面上。” When eats not only eats, but treats as a technique to study diligently, a joyful way realized. Then natural, this type can satisfy the ingredients technique of desire of human food and drink born to the full. Therefore to put it bluntly, this is not the East has the reason of what mysterious place. But is we have the world's longest unified course, and has the most long-time peace content years.” “当吃不仅仅是吃,而是当做一项技艺来钻研,一种让人愉悦的方式去体会。那么自然地,这种能够最大程度满足人类口腹之欲的料理技艺就会诞生出来。所以说白了,这不是东方有什么神奇之地的缘故。而是我们有着世界上最为漫长的统一历程,并且也有着最为长久的和平美满岁月。” Truth as if indeed is such a truth, good.” “道理似乎的确是这么一个道理,不错。” Is listening to old in lengthy speech, Alexander while being similar to the student earnestly listens respectfully to the sensibility, is sighing deeply unavoidably, voiced own feeling. 听着老于的长篇大论,亚历山大在如同学生般认真聆听感悟的同时,也是免不了的长叹着,发出了自己的感慨来。 But, I will feel the mystery of that lands. Do not be perfunctory me, old in, do not forget, I am also a king. I am very clear, what kind of matter the king conquers with the war is, is clearer, what kind of matter the king rules the subordinate territory with the wrist/skill is. That may not compare the former to be relaxed, even is more difficult. Wish lets occupy empire's most people to enjoy the happiness, clothes that the sufficiently filled the belly grain, putting on can maintain warmth, this is not the matter that the common king can achieve. Even said me, in also not necessarily had this confidence at that time......” “但是,我还是会觉得那片土地的神奇。别敷衍我,老于,也别忘了,我也是一个君王。我很清楚,君王用战争征服是怎么样的一件事情,更清楚,君王用手腕来统治自己麾下的领土又是一件怎么样的事情。那可并不比前者轻松,甚至更加困难。想要让占据帝国的绝大多数子民享受幸福,得到足以填饱肚子的粮食,穿上能够保暖的衣服,这可不是一般的君王能够做到的事情。甚至说我自己,在当时也未必有这个信心......” Recalled that at that time came, he is also cannot help but disappointed. The big empire after he dies disintegrates, disintegrates. You must say before him, does not have a wee bit foresights, that also underestimated the wisdom of this king. 回想起当时来,他也是不由得怅然。偌大的帝国在他死后就分崩离析,土崩瓦解。你要说他之前没有一丁点的预见,那也太小看这个君王的智慧了。 I am good at the war, this point who am unable to deny. However the governance... fears my side best scholar, has no way to give me an ideal answer. The ancient Greece, Egypt and even Persia, some people have never had, if cause so. In my subordinate, these arrogant troops brave warriors, they are willing to follow my reason loyally and devotedly are I can conquer the present all with the war, but the benefit of war fills up greedy in their innermost feelings sufficiently. But, the issue is, when the war is unable to continue, in land that in this world cannot conquer again, where should I go to satisfy their appetites and ambitions?” “我善于战争,这一点谁都无法否认。但是治理...恐怕我身边最好的学者,也没法给我一个理想的答案。古希腊,埃及乃至波斯,都从未有人有过如果这般的伟业。在我的麾下,那些骄兵悍将们,他们愿意忠心耿耿跟随我的原因是我能用战争征服眼前的一切,而战争的利益足以填满他们每一个人内心里的贪婪。可是,有一个问题便是,当战争无法继续下去了,这世界上再也没有能征服的土地里,我又该去哪里满足他们的胃口和野心呢?” This most puzzled However is good because, I do not need to go to be worried for this issue, because the destiny hasn't given me the opportunity testimony on that day... this is lucky? old in. Said, I did miss one to become a greater opportunity by myself?” “这是当时最困扰我的一个问题,我甚至能因他而食不知味。不过好在,我并不需要去为这个问题苦恼了,因为命运根本未给我机会见证那一天...这算是幸运吗?老于。还是说,我错过了一个让自己变得更伟大的机会?” This issue, old in is not good to reply. After all they cannot make the time flow backwards. However considers, huge empire that stretches across the European , Asian and African Sanzhou, long-time maintains. That perhaps also indeed is glow in a human civilization. 这种问题,老于也不好回答。毕竟他们到底不能让时间倒流。不过试想一下,一个横跨欧亚非三洲的庞大帝国,长久的维系下去。那或许也的确是人类文明之中的一道辉光吧。 Then should be the light of true western culture. However pitifully, it more than 2000 years ago, had truly extinguished...... 这才该是真正的西方文明之光。然而可惜了,它确实在两千多年之前,就已经熄灭了......
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