In auditorium. 大礼堂内。 The Peking University students many show the expression that admires. 北大学生们好多都露出佩服的表情。 But even more occupies winning side during the viewpoint of Zhang Ye, almost must strike while the iron is hot the second class ending that in him wins victory, Voice jumped. 可就在张烨的观点愈加占据上风的当口,就在他几乎要趁热打铁旗开得胜的第二堂课结尾,一个声音跳了出来。 „Zhang Ye.” Is Redologists Teacher Yang. “张烨。”是红学家杨老师。 Zhang Ye has a look at him, „Teacher Yang, please say.” 张烨看看他,“杨老师,你请讲。” Zhang Ye does not know him, but this person has questioned one's own on weibo, the expression is not quite good, the weibo head picture is his picture that uses, therefore before Zhang Ye, first recognized him to come, this person had influence in the red educational world very much, was very authoritative. Is also same as for Yan Yu, front inquired time he also called „Vice-President Yan” name, national Writer's Association vice-president, was very famous. Zhang Ye early adapted to this brand-new, slightly a little different world, to this Earth celebrity also gradually was not that strange, like just did not start that little while to have no idea anything not to know that he gradually is also studying, was familiar with this Earth person and matter. 张烨不认识他,但这人在微博上质疑过自己,语气还不太好,微博头像又是用的他本人的照片,所以张烨之前第一眼就认出他来了,这人在红学界很有影响力,也很权威。至于严玉也一样,前面提问的时候他也叫出过“严副主席”的名字,国家作协的副主席嘛,也很有名的。张烨早适应了这个崭新的、略有点不一样的世界,对这个地球的名人也渐渐不是那么陌生了,不像刚开始那会儿两眼一抹黑什么都不知道了,他也逐渐在学习,在熟悉这个地球的人和事。 Teacher Yang this time has not asked directly, but was intentionally has stopped for two seconds, possibly to let the focal point came, to let the camera aimed at him. 杨老师这次没有直接发问,而是故意停顿了两秒钟,可能是为了让焦点过来,为了让摄像机对准他。 scene came! 镜头过来了！ The line of sight of Peking University students also arrived on him! 北大学生们的视线也到了他身上！ Teacher Yang leisurely said: „I just basically had not spoken, I in listening to you said that I also acknowledged that your analysis and understanding make some sense to a certain extent, but I do not know that others have discovered that you in using the counter-evidence, for example Jia Jia are punished for an offense this matter, you before denying 80 and 80 chapters has the logical conflict, proved that your argument, this is not comprehensive, is one-sided, he he, uses a simplest method, we can also use this technique to show that actually your viewpoint is unreliable.” 杨老师才慢慢悠悠道:“我刚刚基本都没说话,我都在听你说,我也承认,你的分析和理解在某种程度上是有一定道理的,但是我不知道别人发现了没有,你一直都在用反证,比如贾家获罪这件事,你都是在用否定80回后和80回前有逻辑冲突,来证明你的论点,这是不全面的,也是片面的,呵呵,用个最简单的方法吧,我们其实也可以用这个手法来证明你的观点靠不住。” Zhang Ye said with a smile: „Ok, can say.” 张烨笑道:“可以啊,都可以讲。” In the Teacher Yang heart laughs, on the face said very much at will: „You thought that you can explain? The words said was too big! I told you, «Dream of the Red Chamber» inside secret and issue, nobody can explain completely!” 杨老师心中嗤笑,脸上却很随意道:“你觉得你都可以解释？话说的太大了！我告诉你,《红楼梦》里面的秘密和问题,没人能全部解释的了！” Zhang Ye smiles, has not spoken. 张烨只是笑,没说话。 A youth Hong studies researcher said: „Teacher Yang, Teacher Zhang Ye, since has this self-confident and knowledge, you asked logical issue that his first 80 cannot explain?” 一青年红学研究者道:“杨老师,张烨老师既然有这个自信和学识,那您问一个他前80回里解释不了的逻辑问题？” Teacher Yang said: „Good, I asked one.” 杨老师道:“好,那我就问一个。” This they sang a duet, toss about also very well. 这俩人一唱一和,折腾得还挺好。 Zhang Ye smiles not to speak, the stance of making listening in reverent attention. 张烨笑而不语,做出一副洗耳恭听的姿态。 Wu Zeqing side looked at that side Teacher Yang, moved. 吴则卿侧头看了一眼杨老师那边,又把头挪了回来。 Chang Kaige and Zhen Shuquan Professor Zeng and the others, then somewhat was worried for Zhang Ye that this group of people studied «Dream of the Red Chamber» have studied the person of half a lifetime, least people have also studied for 56 years, the logical inference and analysis, they possibly did not have hello, but found fault to select the mistake, they may be the experts. 常凯歌和甄书全曾教授等人,则都有些替张烨担心,这帮人可是研究《红楼梦》研究了半辈子的人啊,最少的人也研究过56年的,逻辑推理和分析,他们可能没你好,但挑毛病挑错误,他们可都是行家里手。 Little Zhang line? 小张行吗？ Other here planted! 别在这里栽了啊！ Everybody expression varies, thinks is different! 大家都表情不一,想的也都不一样！ Teacher Yang spoke, he stares at Zhang Ye saying: „You, since said «Dream of the Red Chamber», only then the first 80 chapters are the Cao Xueqin original pens, had added some first 80 chapters of things are only the mistakes in detail, is Mr. Cao not with enough time changing, but the character disposition actually passes through the full text, is impossible to have the problem, what Jia mother also gives an example to change suddenly after 80 chapters of dispositions, Jia Baoyu Lin Daiyu has traded a disposition after 80 chapters, this was you a moment ago had said?” 杨老师说话了,他盯着张烨道:“你既然说《红楼梦》只有前80回是曹雪芹原笔,还说过前80回有些东西只是细节上的错误,是曹先生没来得及修改,但人物性格却是贯穿全文的,是不可能有毛病的,也举例过什么贾母在80回后性格突变,贾宝玉林黛玉在80回后换了一个性格,这都是你刚才说过的吧？” Zhang Ye said: „Naturally was I says.” 张烨道:“当然是我说的。” „Good.” Sees him on sets of very much, Teacher Yang turns upwards one leg on the other saying: „You, since also mentioned a moment ago the matter of Jia Zheng crime, you definitely know in this plot, a story, is Jia Baoyu's the issue of that poem, why do you avoid this not to discuss?” “那好。”见他很上套,杨老师翘起二郎腿道:“你既然刚才又提到了贾政罪行的事情,那你肯定知道就在这段情节里,还有一个故事,是贾宝玉的那首诗的问题,你为什么偏偏避开这个不谈？” Jia Baoyu's poem? 贾宝玉的诗？ The people have held breath cold air! 众人都倒吸了一口凉气！ Shit! Must be so ruthless! Unexpectedly asked this? 我靠！要不要这么狠啊！居然问这个？ Chang Kaige and several lecturers of Chinese department changed the complexion! 常凯歌和中文系的几个讲师都变了脸色！ Yan Yu does not have to expect Teacher Yang directly to ask that this issue, this is the true death issue! 严玉都没料杨老师会直接问这个问题,这才是真正的死问题啊！ Senior Song slightly is also startled, before she comes, met the Female reporter interview of Jinshi outside, but also had told her one's own regarding the doubts of this issue, in thinking Teacher Zhang Ye today's teaching can avoid this logical error not saying that obviously, a Zhang Ye class has not raised, therefore Senior Song had not asked that because she fears to ask, Teacher Zhang Ye cannot answer, made Teacher unable to get out, has not thought that she did not ask, now some people asked! 宋学姐也微微一怔,她来之前在外面遇见了津市的女记者采访,还跟她说过自己对于这个问题的疑惑呢,在想着张烨老师今天的讲课会不会避开这个逻辑错误不讲,显然,张烨一节课都没有提,所以宋学姐也没问,因为她怕问出来以后张烨老师答不上来,太让老师下不来台了,没想到她不问,现在有人问了！ The Teacher Yang look said with ease: „I asked was this issue, what that this significant logical error, before 80 chapters, 78 th chapter of writing? Jia did Zheng call nearby to make them write poetry his two son grandsons suddenly, what topic set? Let them compose a poem to eulogize a female, the forest four mothers, she has to yell wa hua general, in the book writes clearly, Jia Huan composes a poem, Jalland has attached one, Jia Baoyu has also been enthusiastic, he has written a long song, the big length eulogized wa hua general, in the process that writes Jia Zheng some literary retainer staff on the scene also in abundance applaud, Jia Zheng final, praised very much, but our issues came, forest four mothers what's the matter? The story in Qingzhou, that place has a permanent king, has raised one group of enlisted women, the leader is the forest four mothers, afterward came one group of bandits the insurrectionary army, the city could not defend, many people want to surrender, finally the forest four mothers led one group of enlisted women to kill, finally also died in battle, therefore the forest four mothers were the military officers who suppressed the farmer insurrectionary army!” 杨老师神色轻松道:“我问的就是这个问题,这个重大逻辑错误,就是在80回前的,第78回写的什么啊？贾政忽然把他的两个儿子一个孙子叫到跟前让他们作诗,出了个什么题目？让他们写诗歌颂一个女性,林四娘,她有个号叫姽婳将军,书里面是明明白白写出来的,贾环赋诗一首,贾兰附了一首,贾宝玉也来劲了,他写了一个长歌,大篇幅地歌颂了姽婳将军,写的过程中在场贾政的一些清客幕僚也都纷纷鼓掌,贾政最后呢,也很表扬,可是我们的问题就来了,林四娘是怎么回事啊？故事在青州,那个地方有个恒王,养了一群女兵,首领就是林四娘,后来来了一群土匪啊起义军啊,城守不住了,很多人都想投降,结果林四娘就带着一群女兵杀了出去,最后也战死了,所以林四娘是一个镇压农民起义军的将领！” These everybody all knows that calmly is listening. 这些大家全知道,静静听着。 Teacher Yang is feared that some people do not understand, therefore said in detail, said: „What artistic image but is Jia Baoyu? Was very counter- at that time the feudal society! Is counter- clear! But Jia Baoyu did here unexpectedly eulogize one to suppress the military officer of farmer insurrectionary army? Collapsed this character disposition to here all of a sudden, Zhang Ye, do not explain that after this is Cao Xueqin finished, has not modified, this explanation, moreover you said that Jia Baoyu did destroy after 80 chapters of artistic images? Turned into another disposition? But you must know that after 80 chapters of Jia Baoyu's change, at least has the description, has private school Teacher to teach that his he goes to study the eight-legged essay, is first 80 chapters of here? What upholstery what explained that doesn't have? Since you boasted extravagantly saying that Cao Xueqin was not because the sick reason will present the writing mistake, how then I want to listen to you to explain the matter of Jia Baoyu this poem!” 杨老师是怕有人不懂,所以详细说了一遍,才道:“但是贾宝玉是什么艺术形象啊？是很反当时封建社会的！是反清的！可是贾宝玉在这里居然歌颂了一个镇压了农民起义军的将领？这个人物性格到这里一下子就崩了,张烨,你可不要解释这是曹雪芹写完后没改动好呢,这个解释不了,而且你方才说贾宝玉在80回后艺术形象毁坏了？变成另一个性格了？可是你要知道,80回后的贾宝玉的变化,起码还是有描写的,有私塾老师教导他他才去学八股文的,可是前80回这里呢？什么铺垫什么解释都没有吧？你既然夸下海口说曹雪芹不是因为生病原因才会出现写作错误的,那么我想听一下你怎么解释贾宝玉这首诗的事！” „Right, you said to us!” Youth Hong studies researcher sneers to say. “对,你给我们说说！”那青年红学研究者冷笑道。 „Yes Zhang Ye, here issue, can you explain?” Meng Dongguo said. “是啊张烨,这里的问题,你能解释吗？”孟东国道。 A woman said: „Cannot explain, your viewpoint was also overthrown, anything was needless to say! No matter around 80 chapters, has the faulty stroke in handwriting, you cannot take this certificate anything!” 一个妇女道:“解释不了,你的观点也就被推翻了,什么都不用说了！不管80回前后,都是有败笔的,你也不能拿这个证明什么了！” Ma Hengyuan looked, has smiled, „here issue is the non-solution, you may let alone here not be the Cao Xueqin original pen, but is the posterity makes up writes, that several poems after the research, stem from the pen of Cao Xueqin, in this, therefore can only say that this that nobody can imitate is a Cao Xueqin's fault and faulty stroke in handwriting!” 马恒元一看,也笑了,“这里的问题是无解的,你可别说这里不是曹雪芹原笔而是后人补写的,那几首诗经过考证,就是出自曹雪芹之笔,在这一块,没人能模仿的了,所以只能说这是曹雪芹的一个失误和败笔！” The person of Literature has struck back, one group of popularity flame are agitated! 文学界的人杀了一个回马枪,一帮人气焰汹汹！ Yao Mi said puzzled: „Is this issue so difficult?” 姚蜜不解道:“这问题有这么难吗？” Nearby school leader Zhou smiles bitterly, „this is a difficult problem that in «Dream of the Red Chamber» most is unable to solve! Even possibly does not have one! The red educational world has studied for dozens years, no one could be solved!” 旁边周学长苦笑,“这是《红楼梦》里最无法解决的一个难题！甚至可能没有之一！红学界研究了几十年,谁都解决不了！” Yao Mi called out: „Shit! This group of person such wicked?” 姚蜜叫道:“我靠！这帮人这么缺德？” Li Ying speechless [say / way]: „Yes, this is must Teacher Zhang compelling the dead end!” 李英无语道:“是啊,这是要把张老师给逼上绝路啊！” „Also was the Teacher Zhang Ye words says was too big!” Li Li is also worried saying: „Then may be good, by the one's own words stopping up, the circle did not come back!” “也是张烨老师话说的太大了！”李立也担心道:“这下可好了,被自己的话给堵住了,圆不回来了！” That side, the Zhang Ye initial electricity Station Leader Zhao Gouzhou brow was also a wrinkle, „Little Zhang this chapter may meet the difficult problem, this issue had no way to be solved.” He also understands «Dream of the Red Chamber», although has not studied profoundly, but has looked at many commentaries, knows the difficult problem that Teacher Yang asked that was in the red chamber biggest denouncing, even if were the late Jia Baoyu disposition change, later Jia mother disposition changed, this can also deceive, the poem that however here Jia Baoyu eulogized, actually could not deceive, interrupted unable to interrupt continually! 那边,张烨当初的电台领导赵国洲眉头也是一皱,“小张这回可碰见难题了,这问题没法解决啊。”他也是懂《红楼梦》的,虽然没深入研究过,但看过不少评论,知道杨老师问的这个难题,是红楼里最大的诟病,哪怕是后期贾宝玉性格改变,后期贾母性格变样,这都还能糊弄过去,然而这里贾宝玉歌颂的这首诗,却是怎么也糊弄不了啊,连打岔都打岔不过去！ Wang Xiaomei looks at Zhang Ye on stand, „the Leader Zhao prison, I did not think but actually.” 王小美看看台上的张烨,“赵总监,我倒不觉得。” „Um?” Zhao Gouzhou takes a look at her, „what doesn't think?” “嗯？”赵国洲瞅她,“不觉得什么？” Wang Xiaomei is static the face, „I thought that Zhang Ye is confident.” Saying, she referred to leaving office, „you noted not to have, he was smiles.” 王小美静着脸庞,“我觉得张烨胸有成竹。”说着,她指了下台上,“您注意到没有,他是笑着的。” Zhao Gouzhou looks, „also is really!” 赵国洲一看,“还真是！” Hu Fei that the back row sits also very much understood that a Zhang Ye person, he sees Zhang Ye this smile the expression, knows in this boy absolute heart confident, but how Zhang Ye will say that he has not known really! 后排坐着的胡飞也是很了解张烨的一个人,他一见张烨这个微笑的表情,就知道这小子绝对心中有底,可是张烨到底会怎么说,他还真不知道！ The Professor Zeng side head, „Old Qian, does this mistake have the solution?” 曾教授侧头,“钱老,这个错误有解吗？” Old Qian shakes the head with a smile, „I do not know that in the research in red chamber, Little Zhang flings me to be many, this I truly am inferior to him, looked how he said.” 钱老笑着摇摇头,“我是不知道的,在红楼的研究上,小张可是甩出我很多的,这一块我确实不如他,看他怎么说吧。” One second...... 一秒钟…… Three seconds...... 三秒钟…… Five seconds...... 五秒钟…… Zhang Ye is listening throughout, has not said the sound unexpectedly. 张烨始终都在听着,竟没言声。 Teacher Yang ridiculed: „Doesn't explanation come out?” 杨老师嘲笑道:“解释不出来了？” „How to speak?” The youth who conducts the Hong studies research said. “怎么不说话了？”搞红学研究的青年道。 The Zhang Ye expression said at will: „It is not I do not speak, but was the scene was too chaotic, the discussion sound were too many, I said everybody could not hear.” 张烨表情随意道:“不是我不说话,而是现场太乱了,议论声太多,我说了大家也听不到啊。” hear word, the audiences were static in an instant! 闻言,全场都刹那间静了！ Everybody did not discuss that is all listening to Zhang Ye Voice. 大家也不讨论了,全听着张烨的声音。 Zhang Ye has then grasped microphone with a smile, „the issue about Jia Baoyu this poem, was the issue of great difficulty in the red educational world, the red chamber was not good to say on here, the average person speaks the red chamber, talked about here time 100 have 100 to jump over personally, pretended neglected this, nobody dares to speak this plot, which pot this was does not open cannot raise the paragraph of which pot, perplexed has studied the «Dream of the Red Chamber» person innumerably, but here, in today's this public class, I can tell everybody......” light stop, his: „This plot, I can say.” 张烨这才笑着握了握话筒,“关于贾宝玉这首诗的问题,在红学界属于老大难的问题了,红楼不好讲就在这里,一般人就算讲红楼,讲到这里的时候100个人有100个都会跳过去,假装忽略这一块,没有人敢讲这个情节,这是个哪壶不开就不能提哪壶的段落,难住了无数研究《红楼梦》的人,但是在这里,在今天这堂公开课中,我可以告诉大家……”轻一停顿,他道:“这个情节,我能讲。” Everybody is startled! 大家都怔住！ „Can you say?” “您能讲？” „Is Teacher Zhang really good?” “张老师真行啊？” „, This will not have no way to explain!” “不会啊,这没法解释啊！” Peking University student whole face does not believe. 北大学生满脸的不相信。 Only then Senior Song and school leaders Zhou they are interested, came all of a sudden energetic, can explain really? If the genuine solution releases, then can overturn the heavens in the red educational world really! 只有宋学姐和周学长他们非常感兴趣,一下子就来精神了,真能解释？如果真解释的了,那在红学界真能翻天了啊！ Teacher Yang was actually not the issue that believed that he listened to be disinclined to listen! 杨老师却都不是信不信的问题了,他听都懒得听了！ The audience almost nobody believes that Zhang Ye can have this skill! 全场几乎没有人相信张烨能有这个本事！ Zhang Ye stands there, actually as before calm as usual, is maintaining with a laugh the expression: „Moreover nobody asked that I also happen to must talk about this moment ago, why? Because in this Jia Baoyu eulogized in the plot of wa hua general, before having, I had not said the Jia Zheng second crime, receives the charge that the Zhen crime produced to suffice in a big way? No, is not big! This plot shows is the Jia Zheng biggest crime! That I thread of conversation had disclosed a moment ago...... Jia Zheng monstrous crime!”( 张烨站在那里,却依旧淡定如常,保持着笑呵呵表情道:“而且就算没有人问,我刚才也正好要讲到这个了,为什么？因为在这个贾宝玉歌颂姽婳将军的情节上,就有了之前我还没说完的贾政的第二宗罪,接收甄家罪产的罪名已经够大了吧？不,不大！这个情节展现出来的才是贾政最大的罪行！那个我刚才话茬里透露过的……贾政的滔天大罪！”( …… ……