IAIH :: Volume #11

#1073: Is impolite

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They by the window sit down on study room receiving callers sofa, Jodie Miller pulls out the memorandum and sound recording from the satchel, while is observing the opposite youth in secret. 两人在书房靠窗的会客沙发上坐下,朱迪斯・米勒一边从挎包里掏出记事本和录音器,一边暗中观察着对面的青年。 To the western woman of universal easy early aging, the majority of Western male is opposite, many young people on over 20 years old of face are also often having the naivete cheek rouge and freckle. 相对于普遍容易早衰的西方女人,大部分西方男性恰好相反,很多年轻人往往20多岁脸上还带着稚气的腮红和雀斑。 However, although retains Yi Xian the young true colors golden hair, on the cheeks is not having the stubble trace, but this edges and corners distinct face actually slightly has not given at present people any shy feeling. Jodie Miller instead feels one type from Eric after the maturity and calm that the humans affair polish can present. 不过,虽然保留着易显年轻的本色金发,脸颊上也没有胡茬的痕迹,但眼前这张棱角分明的脸庞却丝毫没有给人任何青涩之感。朱迪斯・米勒反而从艾瑞克身上感受到一种历经世事打磨才会出现的成熟与沉稳。 Cindy delivered pot coffee to come in quickly, gave them to pour carefully on, then peacefully withdrew from the study room. 辛迪很快送了一壶咖啡进来,细心地给两人倒上,然后就安静地退出了书房。 The appearance of Cindy has broken Jodie the observation of Miller to Eric, notes on the male face the light happy expression, Jodie Miller realized one just sized up the time of opposite party as if to grow. Excuse me smiling, Jodie Miller turns on sound recording, the memorandum in the hand, looks at the opposite party to open the mouth saying: „Therefore, Mr. Williams, according to latest statistics, along with the listing of Yahoo, your individual net worth has achieved 265 billion USD, even has exceeded the Russia federation newest GDP value, can say you to the view of this wealth?” 辛迪的出现打断了朱迪斯・米勒对艾瑞克的观察,注意到男人脸上淡淡的笑意,朱迪斯・米勒才意识到自己刚刚打量对方的时间似乎长了一些。不好意思的笑了笑,朱迪斯・米勒打开录音器,将记事本拿在手中,望着对方开口道:“所以,威廉姆斯先生,根据最新的统计数据,随着雅虎的上市,您的个人身家已经达到了2650亿美元,甚至超过了俄罗斯联邦的最新gdp数值,可以说说您对这笔财富的看法吗？” The first response of Eric also thinks that this is one is similar to ‚how becomes the feeling of world's richest’ and so on does not have the topic of nutrition, but realized in an instant that the issue is not such simple. 艾瑞克的第一反应还以为这又是一个类似于‘成为世界首富的感觉怎么样’之类没营养的话题,但转眼间又意识到,问题并不是这么简单。 Jodie Miller inquired that obviously is Eric represents the meaning to this enormous wealth itself the view, but is not this time innermost feelings feeling. 朱迪斯・米勒询问的,显然是艾瑞克对这笔巨额财富本身所代表含义的看法,而不是他此时的内心感受。 Hesitant the moment, Eric with a smile shook the head saying: „Sorry, I do not know how should answer you this issue.” 犹豫了片刻,艾瑞克还是笑着摇头道:“抱歉,我不知道该怎么回答你这个问题。” In fact, is not does not know how should reply, rather, this issue itself was really too sensitive. 实际上,并不是不知道该怎么回答,而是,这个问题本身实在是太敏感了。 Just like Jodie Miller said that 265 billion USD, have exceeded the Russia current gross national product. Although the inside story of Russia this kind of super power is absolutely impossible only to weigh with the pure GDP digit, but same, 265 billion USD, as well as this wealth is connected the huger social capital of affecting, has touched United States this country most basic domination issue. 正如朱迪斯・米勒所说,2650亿美元,已经超过了俄罗斯目前的国民生产总值。虽然俄罗斯这样一个超级大国的底蕴绝对不可能只用单纯的gdp数字来衡量,但同样,2650亿美元,以及这笔财富所关联影响到的更加庞大的社会资本,也已经触及到了美国这个国家最根本的控制权问题。 In the past the Rockefeller Family wealth held United States GDP 1.6%, has been considered as has controlled entire United States. Eric has the wealth since then, has surpassed in the past Rockefeller Family of heyday in the proportion in United States GDP holding by far. 当年洛克菲勒家族财富只是占有美国gdp的1.6%,就已经被认为是控制了整个美国。艾瑞克从此拥有财富,在美国gdp中占有的比重已经远远超当年全盛时期的洛克菲勒家族。 Rockefeller Family has almost controlled the United States energy industry life after second Industrial Revolution, is similar to it, after the industry under Eric name also involved the third technological revolution, most core electronic information domain. 洛克菲勒家族几乎控制了第二次工业革命之后的美国能源产业命脉,与之类似,艾瑞克名下的产业也涉及到了第三次技术革命之后最为核心的电子信息领域。 This time Yahoo, Cisco, Amazon, Qualcomm, Nokia and other Firefly system core enterprises completely have shown rising condition, Eric also has very big confidence to guarantee that several companies will not return to once road. Then, over the next ten years, these enterprises after will further be consolidating the foundation and expands continually, said that a Firefly system controls the United States information industries life not to be overrated. 此时的雅虎、思科、亚马逊、高通、诺基亚等萤火虫体系核心企业都已经全部展现出了崛起之态,艾瑞克也有很大信心可以保证这其中的几家公司不会重蹈曾经的覆辙。那么,未来十年,这些企业在进一步巩固根基并持续扩张之后,说一句萤火虫体系控制着美国的信息产业命脉也丝毫不为过。 On the other hand, to guarantee in the future expansion process the overall benefit of Firefly system will not come under the influence that the United States national policy moves toward, Firefly must strengthen oneself in the political field influence, even must control the change of United States highest authority social stratum as far as possible. 另一方面,为了保证未来的扩张过程中萤火虫体系的整体利益不会受到美国国家政策走向的影响,萤火虫也必须要加强自身在政治领域的影响力,甚至要尽可能地去控制美国最高权力阶层的更替。 This matter is not Eric is not interested to hide absolutely in the politics, if Firefly such does not do, that will only face the competitor to suppress using the powerful that the political trick is relentless. Meanwhile, huge wealth that Eric I have, enough supports the Firefly system in the expansion of political field. 这件事绝对不是艾瑞克对政治不感兴趣就可以躲得开的,萤火虫如果不这么做,那只会面临竞争对手利用政治手段毫不留情的强势打压。同时,艾瑞克本人拥有的庞大财富,也足够支撑萤火虫体系在政治领域的扩张。 Then, finally, in addition Firefly in the Hollywood strong layout. 那么,最后,再加上萤火虫在好莱坞的强势布局。 Therefore. 于是。 Politics, economy, culture. 政治,经济,文化。 Complete. 齐全了。 These three glossaries pile up one on top of another in the same place, sounds is very familiar? Under normal conditions, the capital of majority of countries is called a politics, economy and the cultural center country. 这三个词汇堆叠在一起,听起来是不是很熟悉？通常情况下,大部分国家的首都都被称为一个国家的政治、经济、文化中心。 If a financial group can the politics, economies and the cultural three aspects country show the formidable controlling force, obviously, this financial group was also then equal to controlling the entire country. 如果一个财团能够对所在国家的政治、经济、文化三方面都展现出强大的控制力,那么,显而易见,这个财团也就等于控制了整个国家。 Although all countries have the ruling circles, but is very obvious, the majority of general publics are too not willing directly to face this topic. Therefore, Eric absolutely impossible in Jodie in front of Miller goes to discuss this issue thoroughly, he does not want to be perfunctory at will, therefore simply rejects. 虽然所有国家都有着台前幕后的统治阶层,但很显然,大部分普通民众都不太愿意直接面对这一话题。因此,艾瑞克绝对不可能在朱迪斯・米勒面前去深入地谈论这个问题,他也不想随意敷衍,于是干脆拒绝。 Meanwhile, Eric also realized that this press woman following issue of absolutely will be at present impolite, therefore hit the spirit secretly. 同时,艾瑞克也意识到眼前这位女记者接下来的问题绝对不会太客气,于是暗暗打起了精神。 Jodie Miller does not have to think the first issue of own careful preparation like this by the Eric direct rejection, even links an ambiguous answer not to have. 朱迪斯・米勒没想到自己精心准备的第一个问题就这样被艾瑞克直接拒绝,甚至连一个模棱两可的答案都没有。 Has gawked slightly , the understanding smiling face that she reveals a politeness, looked down the memorandum, continued saying: „When Mr. Williams, according to yesterday's closing stock price, the Yahoo market profit has achieved 530 times, how do you view the serious bubble problem that in the Yahoo stock price has?” 稍微愣了下,她才露出一个礼貌的理解笑容,低头看了看记事本,继续道:“威廉姆斯先生,根据昨日收盘时的股价,雅虎的市盈率已经达到了530倍,请问您怎么看待雅虎股价中存在的严重泡沫问题？” Really is impolite. 还真是一点都不客气啊。 In the Eric heart sighed, then said: „Yahoo went on the market the stock price increase scope of first date truly to exceed our anticipated, but I did not think that had too serious bubble ingredient. From the earning data of recent two years of continual high growth, Yahoo has developed one very mature commercial profitability model gradually, what we need is only the time, stimulates thoroughly the commercial potential that the Internet media profession contains.” 艾瑞克心中感叹了一句,然后道:“雅虎上市首日的股价涨幅确实超过了我们的预期,但我并不觉得这其中存在太严重的泡沫成分。从最近两年连续高增长的营收数据来看,雅虎已经逐渐发展出一套非常成熟的商业盈利模式,我们需要的只是时间,将互联网传媒行业所蕴含的商业潜能彻底激发出来。” Jodie Miller cannot pick up any problem from the reply of Eric, she thinks that this is Eric prepares beforehand well ‚model answer’, therefore chases after and never gives up saying: „How long you think to need, can the profit for the year of Yahoo creation 90 billion USD estimate values match with him now?” 朱迪斯・米勒没能从艾瑞克的回答里挑出任何毛病,她以为这是艾瑞克事先准备好的‘标准答案’,于是穷追不舍道:“那您觉得需要多久,雅虎创造的年利润才能与他现在900亿美元的估值相匹配？” Eric has thought deeply about the moment, said: „Five years.” 艾瑞克思索了片刻,道:“五年吧。” Jodie Miller said: „Even if calculates according to 30 times of market profits, five years, Yahoo achieving profit for the year 3 billion USD, you do think the possibility?” 朱迪斯・米勒道:“哪怕按照30倍市盈率计算,五年时间,雅虎做到年利润30亿美元,您觉得可能吗？” „In 1995, global Internet user quantity, only then about 40 million, three years, this figure grew 100 million 60 million, according to various data forecasts, in 2000, this figure will increase to 300 million, but in 2005, the global Internet user quantity will achieve 1 billion. Meanwhile, this billion Internet user is the power of consumption greatly strengthened middle class above crowd without a doubt,” the Eric vision is staring at Jodie Miller, asked back: „, Ms. Miller, you thought that in the huge market of 1 billion highest-quality consumer foundation, what but also there is impossible?” “1995年,全球互联网用户数量只有4000万左右,三年时间,这个数字已经增长到了1亿6000万,根据多方面的数据预测,2000年,这个数字将增加到3亿,而2005年,全球互联网用户数量将达到10亿。同时,这10亿互联网用户毫无疑问都属于消费能力极强的中产阶级以上人群,”艾瑞克目光凝视着朱迪斯・米勒,反问道:“那么,米勒女士,你觉得,在一个拥有10亿最优质消费用户基础的庞大市场上,还有什么是不可能的？” Jodie. Miller feels Eric to ask back when one pressure that in the vision contains, has not actually shown one's ignorance. 朱迪斯.米勒感受到艾瑞克反问自己时目光中所蕴含的压力,却没有露怯。 Entire 《The New York Times》 is paying close attention to this interview, if she lets this interview class in a mediocre dialog, even if she is having the deep qualifications and backstage in 《The New York Times》, possibly faces the fate that is forced to resign. Must know, reason that today is she carries on this interview, similarly is 《The New York Times》 internal the results of influence intense gambling. 整个《纽约时报》都在密切关注着这次访谈,如果她让这次采访流于一场平庸的对话,即使她在《纽约时报》内部拥有着再深厚的资历和后台,都可能面临被迫辞职的下场。要知道,今天之所以是她来进行这次采访,同样是《纽约时报》内部各势力激烈博弈的结果。 „Mr. Williams, entire North America population is also only 300 million, said that the Yahoo future development center of gravity will be the global market. But as far as I know, Yahoo over 70% services in North America, the overseas development are not at present smooth, how do you view this issue?” “威廉姆斯先生,整个北美的人口也只有三亿,这么说,雅虎未来的发展重心将是全球市场。但据我所知,雅虎目前超过70%的业务都在北美,海外拓展并不顺利,您是怎么看待这个问题的？” „Your issue description is inaccurate, Yahoo over 70% services centralized in North America, this is the fact, but this does not mean unfavorable situation that the Yahoo overseas expand. Because in recent years, Yahoo diligently has been establishing oneself in the foundation of North America this supreme headquarters market. If an enterprise cannot achieve the absolute leading position in own country, its overseas expansion is also out of the question. Moreover, under such enterprise development strategy, Yahoo has obtained 30% overseas market shares as before with ease, this proves the Yahoo formidable global expansion ability sufficiently. After IPO, the Yahoo next few years main development objective will be centralized the development in overseas market, I believe that Yahoo will overtake and even the counter- ultra North America native place in the business volume of overseas market quickly.” “你的问题描述并不准确,雅虎70%以上的业务集中在北美,这是事实,但这并不意味着雅虎海外扩张的失利。只是因为这些年来,雅虎一直在努力打牢自身在北美这一大本营市场的根基。一家企业如果在自身所在国家都做不到绝对的领先地位,它的海外扩张也就无从谈起。而且,在这样的企业发展策略下,雅虎依旧轻松取得了30%的海外市场份额,这足以证明雅虎强大的全球扩张能力。ipo之后,雅虎未来几年的主要发展目标都将集中在海外市场的开发,我相信雅虎在海外市场的业务规模将很快追上乃至反超北美本土。” Jodie. Miller slight bow, as if very much approves of the Eric excuse, when the Eric voice falls, she asks a sharp question immediately again: „Mr. Williams, I just heard absolute leading position in your speech ‚’ this expression, in fact, Yahoo has achieved single hegemony in the Internet media domain at present, you had considered this aspect possibly to the negative impact that the entire profession does have?” 朱迪斯.米勒微微点着头,似乎很赞同艾瑞克的说辞,不过,待艾瑞克话音落下,她立刻再次问出了一个犀利的问题:“威廉姆斯先生,我刚刚在您的发言中听到了‘绝对的领先地位’这一措辞,实际上,雅虎目前在互联网传媒领域已经做到了一家独大,您有考虑过这种局面可能对整个行业所造成的负面影响吗？” „I understand your subtext, Jodie, once each profession forms the industrial pattern of giant monopolistic market, often will present pioneer An Xiangqi becomes is shiftless, the successor innovates the aspect of being blocked is unable to expand. But the Internet industry is different, this is in the profession of high-speed explosive growth just emerged . Moreover, as a result of the global nature of Internet, this will be doomed the future most splendid new technology corporation is the colossus of global nature. According to this standard, Yahoo actually is also only a child of toddling, although we truly early learned walking compared with other babies, but if we were shiftless, that will be doomed to be eliminated in this new technical tide. Meanwhile, I think the federal government should not when a new technology corporation shows the market leader status slightly impatiently limits it. Just like I just said that the future Internet industry is global, this and any traditional business is different. If the federal government cannot show the manner of enough opening and containing in this industrial transformation, the federation in the leading position that the new tech field just obtained likely by the Europe even Asia counter- ultra, even, we have to greet from the Europe and Asia Internet giant in the distress in the future in attacking a city of North America.” “我明白你的潜台词,朱迪,每个行业一旦形成巨头垄断市场的产业格局,往往会出现领先者安享其成不思进取,后来者创新受阻无法壮大的局面。但互联网产业却不一样,这是一个刚刚兴起的正在高速爆炸式增长的行业,而且,由于互联网的全球性,这注定了未来最出色的新科技企业都将是全球性的庞然大物。按照这种标准,雅虎其实还只是一个蹒跚学步的孩童,虽然我们确实比其他婴儿更早学会了走路,但如果我们不思进取,那注定会在这场新科技浪潮中被淘汰。同时,我认为联邦政府也不应该在一家新科技企业稍微展现出市场龙头地位时就迫不及待地对其进行限制。正如我刚刚所说,未来的互联网产业将是全球化的,这和任何一个传统行业都不同。如果联邦政府不能在这场产业变革展现出足够开放和包容的态度,联邦在新科技领域刚刚取得的领先地位很可能被欧洲甚至亚洲反超,甚至,将来我们不得不在狼狈中迎接来自欧亚互联网巨头在北美的攻城掠地。” 《The New York Times》 beforehand not this interview involves communicates on the specific detail and Firefly aspect that just several issues even were Jodie. Miller display on site, but the youth actually has not displayed at present any to be at a loss in she a series of cunning inquiries, such has not attended to about him with other participants, instead gives the reply that very explicit letting person has had to believe. Jodie. Miller has interviewed innumerable social elite character, very clear Eric just spoke thoughtlessly a series of data and opinions of revealing possibly beforehand does not make the result of schoolwork, this can only be the opposite party himself has the long-term profound ponder to the entire Internet industry. 《纽约时报》事先并没有就这次采访所涉及到的具体细节与萤火虫方面进行沟通,刚刚的好几个问题甚至都是朱迪斯.米勒的临场发挥,但眼前青年却在她一系列刁钻的提问中没有表现出任何无所适从,也没有和其他一些受访者那样顾左右而言他,反而都给出了非常明确的让人不得不信服的回答。朱迪斯.米勒采访过无数社会精英人物,很清楚艾瑞克刚刚随口吐露的一系列数据和见解不可能是事先做功课的结果,这只能是对方本身就对整个互联网行业有着长时间的深刻思考。 If Eric gives Jodie at first. The impression of Miller is also only surface the words in mature calm makings, but after a series of dialogs, Jodie. Miller also has to this youth displays at present subdues for the knowledgeable and that the foresight and sagacity. 如果最初艾瑞克给朱迪斯.米勒的印象还只是表面上的成熟沉稳气质的话,但经过刚才的一系列对话,朱迪斯.米勒也不得不为眼前这位青年所表现出来的博闻强识和远见卓识而折服。 Jodie. Miller had understood beforehand in detail Eric personal background, she is more curious at this time, such one merely is only the youth who the high school graduates, how to achieve today all these. 朱迪斯.米勒事先详细了解过艾瑞克的个人背景,她此时更加好奇,这样一个仅仅只是高中毕业的青年,是如何做到今天这一切的。 However, because of beforehand agreement, Jodie. Miller has not asked the doubts in heart, she is also clear Eric not to be impossible to answer this kind of issue. 不过,因为事先的约定,朱迪斯.米勒并没有问出心中的疑惑,她也清楚艾瑞克不可能会回答这一类问题。 Has digested the Eric just words, Jodie. Miller has also traded a slightly moderate issue, said: „Mr. Williams, Microsoft belongs to a new technology corporation similarly, everybody is clear Yahoo and Microsoft has close cooperative ties, for example that 30% forward transfer of share rights agreements, as well as window preassemble Yahoo Browser. Microsoft these years have been accepting the anti- monopoly investigation of Ministry of Justice, according to your just view, the federal government to Microsoft this series of investigated were whether harsh?” 消化了一下艾瑞克刚刚的一番话,朱迪斯.米勒也换了一个稍微缓和一些的问题,道:“威廉姆斯先生,微软同样属于一家新科技企业,大家都清楚雅虎与微软有着非常紧密的合作关系,比如那份30%的远期股权转让协议,以及视窗系统预装的的雅虎浏览器。微软这些年一直在接受司法部的反垄断调查,那么,按照你刚刚的说法,联邦政府对微软的这一系列调查是否过于苛刻了？” The Eric corners of the mouth show the light smile, said: „Although I know that Bill that arrogant fellow will not appreciate kindness rendered, but my reply is the affirmation. Microsoft at present is also at the stage that most important global expands, if the federal government is severe regarding the limit of Microsoft, enterprise jumbo who United States will possibly lose a global nature. Although North America is one of the global maximum markets, but it impossible to compare with huger global market eventually. I think that has the industry leadership status business tycoon in global, should serve the federal fundamental interests. Naturally, I hope similarly Microsoft can show more open enterprise stance. This point, I have the self-confidence of only sufficing with Yahoo to carry on the analogy, Yahoo in own core network browser, instant messenger software as well as electronic mail and other technologies, is grasping very open authorized manner, the authorized object of majority of technology is our direct competition matches, for example AOL, or the MSN gateway of Microsoft. But this has not affected the Yahoo market niche, instead drives Yahoo itself actively to carry on the scientific research to be enterprising.” 艾瑞克嘴角露出淡淡的微笑,道:“虽然我知道比尔那个自大的家伙不会领情,但我的回答是肯定的。微软目前还处在最重要的全球扩张的阶段,如果联邦政府对于微软的限制过于严厉,美国很可能会失去一家全球性的企业巨无霸。北美虽然是全球最大的市场之一,但它终究不可能与更加庞大的全球市场相比。我想,一家在全球拥有行业领导地位的企业巨头,应该是符合联邦根本利益的。当然,我同样希望微软能够表现出更加开放的企业姿态。这一点,我有只够的自信可以拿雅虎进行类比,雅虎在自身核心的网络浏览器、即时通讯软件以及电子邮箱等技术,都秉持着非常开放的授权态度,大部分技术的授权对象还是我们的直接竞争对手,比如美国在线,又或者微软旗下的msn门户。但这并没有影响到雅虎的市场地位,反而激励雅虎本身更加积极地进行科研进取。” Jodie. The Miller slight bow, said: „Mentioned AOL, Mr. Williams, although the Firefly investment already to giving up the matters of AOL large quantities of stockholder's rights has given the detailed explanation, but I was very as before curious, you, I want to know that actually you regarding giving up the AOL stock were to stem from the consideration in which aspect?” 朱迪斯.米勒微微点头,道:“说起美国在线,威廉姆斯先生,虽然萤火虫投资早已对放弃美国在线大批股权的事情做出过详细解释,但我依旧很好奇,就你个人而言,我想知道,你对于放弃美国在线股份究竟是出于哪方面的考虑？” „You know that the Firefly investment has bought stock very many new technology corporations . Moreover, majorities are very successful, including AOL.” Eric is thinking, said slowly: „I choose the criterion of enterprise am, everybody can achieve consistently in the enterprise development idea, like this I can feel relieved that invests it, can feel relieved that gives the management the business management power originally.” “你知道的,萤火虫投资入股了非常多的新科技企业,而且,这其中大部分都算是非常成功,包括美国在线在内。”艾瑞克思索着,缓缓说道:“我挑选企业的准则就是,大家能够在企业发展理念上达成一致,这样我才能放心地对其进行投资,也可以放心地将企业管理权交给原本的管理层。”
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