Interview, but also is continuing. 访谈,还在继续。 „Mr. Lynch, many people thinks that you are a legend, because you use for several years, achieves the goal that many people are unable to achieve for a lifetime, what feelings do you have?” “林奇先生,很多人认为你是一个传奇,因为你用几年的时间,就完成了很多人一辈子都无法完成的目标,你对此有什么感想？” Looks at Lynch, said that he is the legend does not think highly, he is this time most radiant legend, does not have one. 莫莫看着林奇,说他是传奇并不是恭维,他就是这个时代最璀璨的传奇,没有之一。 Many people are always saying, opportunity that this time has not gotten rich. 很多人总是在说,这个时代已经没有发财的机会了。 This does not seem like beginning generation time, the entire federation everywhere is „gold”, does what business to accumulate the extraordinary wealth casually fast. 这不像是初世代的时候,整个联邦遍地都是“黄金”,随便做点什么生意都能快速的累积出惊人的财富。 No matter does the right business, makes these is not improper. 不管是做正当生意,还是做那些不正当的。 Even if buys several places to put the present, that is also a considerable extraordinary wealth. 哪怕只是买几块地放到现在,那也是一笔可观的惊人财富。 The generation is also so, the progress of acceleration and science of industry makes various trades and occupations start to enter the high-speed period of expansion, people can contact the wealth the opportunity and way become more, many average people because of some small chances, become the wealthy man. 中世代也是如此,工业的加速和科学的进步让各行各业都开始进入高速发展期,人们能够接触到财富的机会和途径变得更多,很多普通人只是因为一些小小的机缘,就成为了富翁。 Now the viewpoint of people are this, before got rich very easily, like the present, various trades and occupations does not tend to be saturated. 现在人们的观点就是这样,以前发财很容易,不像现在,各行各业都趋于饱和。 At this time the so-called undertaking, in fact snatched the thing to eat in others' rice bowl, is going to face , is not only the competition in commercial, the retaliation of opponent. 这个时候所谓的创业,实际上就是在别人的饭碗里抢东西吃,将要面对的不仅是商业上的竞争,还有对手的打击报复。 Many people think that this time will not have what wealth fairytale again, but Lynch only used for three years told people, money-making is not a specially difficult matter. 很多人都认为这个时代已经不会再有什么财富神话故事了,可林奇只用了三年的时间就告诉了人们,赚钱并不是一件特别困难的事情。 So long as some dreams, are dynamic, in addition 1 miraculous glow and guts, everyone has the possibility of getting rich. 只要有梦想,有动力,加上一点灵光和胆量,每个人都有发财的可能。 The vision of people somewhat visits him fiery, no one knows him now how much money, but rich was certainly right. 人们的目光有些火热的看着他,没有人知道他现在到底有多少钱,但一定非常的有钱就对了。 Lynch thinks, „you know, three years ago I and my girlfriend bid good-bye, her mother takes away from my side her.” 林奇想了想,“你们都知道,三年前我和我的女朋友分手了,她的母亲把她从我身边带走。” „Arrived before that day I do not think that my life needs to change anything, but after that moment ended, I realized that I and my life needs to make a change” “在那一天到来之前我并不认为我的生活需要改变什么,但在那一刻结束之后,我意识到我和我的生活需要作出一点改变了” „Person needs the dream , needs the courage of realizing the dream, I and you, were only I attempt to take your first step with the more person biggest differences.” “人需要有梦想,也需要有实现梦想的勇气,我和你们,和更多人最大的差别只是我尝试着迈出了自己的第一步。” „In life has many first time, the first love, first bidding good-bye, the first undertaking, you must brave to the past, issued the challenge to timid, then defeated them.” “人生中有很多第一次,第一次恋爱,第一次分手,第一次创业,你得勇敢的向过去,向怯懦的自己发出挑战,然后战胜它们。” „You must do, because you need to change your life, if you do not do, all will not have any change.” “你得那么做,因为你需要改变你的生活,如果你不那么做,一切都不会有任何的变化。” „Courage, was determined, this is my idea, reason that I can succeed......” “勇气,决心,这就是我的想法,我能成功的原因……” „Defeats timid in innermost feelings, you can hug the future.” “战胜内心中的胆怯,你就能拥抱未来。” Some similar words, said from the mouth of tramp with say from Lynch such successful person mouth, the brought effect was completely different. 同样的一些话,从流浪汉的口中说出和从林奇这样的成功人士口中说出,带来的效果是完全不同的。 The tramps said that is only they are to talk nonsense. 流浪汉说,那只是他们在放屁。 But Lynch said that this is the secret of success, encouraging, shocked the soul. 但林奇说了,这就是成功的秘诀,鼓舞人心,震撼了灵魂。 Everyone starts to applaud, is also applauding, after the palm sound met, issue all of a sudden becomes cunning, even can say that the beforehand issue is in fact giving Lynch to dig the trap. 大家又开始鼓掌,莫莫也在鼓掌,在掌声响了一会之后,莫莫的问题一下子变得刁钻起来,甚至可以说之前的这个问题实际上是在给林奇挖陷阱。 „Very splendid feelings, Mr. Lynch, I very curious, in your successful process, there is a person to go bankrupt because of you, finally roams about in the street?” “很精彩的感想,林奇先生,我非常的好奇,在你成功的过程中,有没有人因为你而破产,最终流浪在街头？” „In the process that you operate, there is an exploitation to oppress the labor, gave their enough concerns?” “在你经营的过程中,有没有过剥削压迫过劳工,是否给予了他们足够的关怀？” Atmosphere in the studio becomes some all of a sudden exceptionally dignified, this issue is not only not actually good to reply every so often, but also meets the hearts of some stabbing pain civilians. 演播室里的气氛一下子变得有些异常的凝重,这个问题其实很多时候不仅不好回答,还会刺痛一些平民的心。 In the front of these capitalists, they are nothing safeguard and security sense, this issue is very easy to arouse the contradiction between capitalist and worker. 在这些资本家的面前,他们是没有任何保障与安全感的,这个问题很容易就能激起资本家和劳动者之间的矛盾。 The so acute issue is also «don't Discussed that Current event» style, people also want to see such topic, although sometimes they indeed very injured. 如此尖锐的问题也是《莫谈时事》的风格,人们也希望看见这样的话题,虽然有时候他们的确挺受伤的。 Before also had the capitalist to be inquired such issue, at that time the capitalist said unusual was of pleasant to hear, but quick produced a series of evidence, overthrew the capitalist „performance”, making the capitalist leave the program angrily. 以前也有资本家被提问这样的问题,当时资本家说的非常好听,可很快莫莫就拿出了一系列的证据,推翻了资本家的“表演”,让资本家愤怒的离开了节目。 This similar issue gave Lynch, how will he reply? 这次同样的问题给了林奇,他会怎么回答？ Everyone is waiting. 每个人都在等待着。 Lynch also understands at this time why when he puts on make-up, prompts him to read the leaving office itself/Ben, this is a well-meaning reminder, is a trap! 林奇此时也明白了为什么在他化妆的时候,莫莫提示他要不要看一下台本,这是一个善意的提醒,也是一个陷阱！ Because you know ahead of time these issues, will prepare the answer ahead of time, but this also letting program group exactly worked 因为你提前知道了这些问题,就会提前准备好答案,而这也恰恰的让节目组得逞了 Can reply facing such a embarrassed issue honored guest smoothly, the audience does not think these honored guests can the so fast reply be the preparation are sufficient, they only think that these people have been used to lying. 面对这么一个难堪的问题嘉宾能够流畅回答,观众不会认为这些嘉宾能如此快速的回答是准备充分,他们只会认为这些人已经习惯了说谎。 Then was overthrown, to people a very special feeling, the lie will be revealed by the scene, the effect of program is good, but honored guest's experience will not be definitely good. 然后再被推翻,会给人们一种很特殊的感觉,谎话被现场揭穿,节目的效果非常好,但嘉宾的体验肯定不会太好。 Lynch had not seen, he does not know these, has not naturally prepared ahead of time, he seriously is pondering. 林奇没有看到,他不知道这些,自然也没有提前准备,他认真的思考着。 „Very difficult to reply that Mr. Lynch?”, Looks at Lynch, „said how many people you are unclear to go bankrupt in this process, wandering about destitute street?” “很难回答吗,林奇先生？”,莫莫看着林奇,“还是说你已经记不清有多少人在这个过程中破产,流落街头了？” In the auditorium has was constraining calling out in alarm, has two matters most unable to endure to the federal person. 观众席上有了一些压抑着的惊呼,对联邦人来说有两件事最无法忍受。 The second matter lost the freedom. 第二件事是失去了自由。 The first matter, is the personal finance bankruptcy. 第一件事,则是个人财务破产。 If some people such to them, then they will certainly hate this person. 如果有人这么对他们,那么他们一定会恨这个人了。 Lynch shot a look, smiles, „I indeed was pondering, difference that the thing that but ponders and you said.” 林奇瞥了一眼莫莫,笑了笑,“我的确是在思考,但思考的东西和你说的不一样。” He transformed a sitting posture, then pulled out one packet of cigarettes that oneself sat comfortably, „?” 他转变了一个坐姿让自己坐的更舒服一点,然后掏出了一盒烟,“可以吗？” Nods, „naturally, this is your freedom.” 莫莫点了点头,“当然,这是你的自由。” Is passing the fragrant freedom everywhere, including smokes on the screen is permitted, this is the free federation. 处处都透着香甜的自由,连在荧幕上吸烟都是被允许的,这就是自由的联邦。 Lynch lit cigarette, attracted one, after the nasal cavity exhaled slightly outward some, transfers with the mouth exhales, he licked a lip, „has probably ten gentlemen to go bankrupt in this process, but they are not the average people, is the capitalists.” 林奇点了一根烟,吸了一口,鼻腔中稍稍向外呼出了一些后,又转为用口腔呼出,他舔了一下嘴唇,“有大概十来位先生在这个过程中破产,但他们不是普通人,都是资本家。” „Most famous is Mr. Herbert, he not only went bankrupt, but also jumped from an upper story to commit suicide.” “最著名的就是赫伯特先生,他不仅破产了,还跳楼自杀了。” Interrupted his words, „I know that this matter, heard he owed you and bank a lot of money cannot return, therefore chose the death.” 莫莫打断了他的话,“我知道这件事,听说他欠了你和银行很多钱还不上,所以选择了死亡。” Lynch shakes the head, „this is only part, he owed the money of many, he can only evade with this way.” 林奇摇了摇头,“这只是一部分,他欠了很多人的钱,他只能用这种方式去逃避。” „But, in these years, no average person, because I have similar matter, or trades a simple method to communicate, if in my hand is grasping the sickle, I will not wield to the average person.” “但是,在这几年里,没有一个普通人,因为我发生类似的事情,或者换一种简单的方法来沟通,如果我手里握着镰刀,我也不会挥向普通人。” „Conversely, I come from the lower class, I know the labor that everyone lives, I will not do, making them live become more difficult.” “相反的,我本人来自于社会底层,我知道大家生活的辛苦,我不会那么做,让他们生活变得更难。” „What is opposite, I in the range of my ability, will provide many help for them.” “相反的是,我会在我能力的范围之内,为他们提供更多的帮助。” „If your some people notice Sabine City some policies, will discover, the development of domestic workshop is I promotes.” “如果你们有人注意到塞宾市的一些政策,就会发现,家庭作坊的开展就是我推动的。” „When first two years most difficult, I give the opportunity that over 50,000 families worked, at that time my own enterprise size was also not very big.” “在前两年最困难的时候,我给了超过五万户家庭工作的机会,当时我自己的企业规模还不是很大。” „Has at least is close to 200,000 people directly or changes that this work brought indirectly, lets the bill of each time they can give, because no one cannot pay these things to drive out from the family/home.” “有至少接近二十万人直接或者间接的得到了这份工作带来的改变,让他们能够缴的起每期的账单,没有人因为支付不起这些东西被人从家里赶出去。” After people listen earnestly, started spontaneous applause, the audience even stands got up to express the respect to Lynch. 人们认真的听完之后又开始自发的鼓掌,现场的观众们甚至都站了起来以表示对林奇的尊敬。 Saved so many people, definitely is a big good person, everyone hopes oneself in awkward can bump into a good person, rather than a virulent person. 救活了这么多人,肯定是一个大好人,每个人都希望自己在为难的时候能碰到一个好人,而不是一个恶毒的人。 After the applause ended, faint smile looks at Lynch, „people like you very much.” 掌声结束后,莫莫似笑非笑的看着林奇,“人们很喜欢你。” „Because I am very real, is very sincere, I disdain in using the lie deceive others to serve my own secretive purpose, I am I, had anything to say anything.” “因为我很真实,也很真诚,我不屑于用谎话欺骗别人以达到我自己不可告人的目的,我就是我,有什么说什么。” Nods, „also the issue, I notice...... in Sabine City, you seized the houses of some workers through some methods, has such matter?” 莫莫点了点头,“还有一个问题,我注意到……在塞宾市,你通过一些方法夺走了一些工人的房子,有这么一回事吗？” „Has!”, Lynch acknowledgment without hesitation and nods, the scene is one piece calls out in alarm, even some people stood to make the hand signal of despising, added some bad languages. “有！”,林奇毫不犹豫的承认并且点头,现场又是一片惊呼,甚至有人站起来作出了鄙夷的手势,还说了一些脏话。 Has not controlled the field, this is the program demand, only then the mood of audience was transferred, the viewing ratio will be high, will have topical, she does not prevent immediately. 莫莫没有控场,这是节目需求,只有观众的情绪被调动起来,收视率才会高,才会有话题性,她不会立刻就阻止。 After the hiss continued a meeting, said, „I have been paying attention to you, on your face no other expressions, consistently maintain the smile, you think that this is the good deed, or honorable matter?” 等嘘声持续了一会后,莫莫又说道,“我一直在注意你,你脸上没有什么其他的表情,始终保持微笑,你认为这是好事,或者光荣的事情吗？” Lynch nods again, „naturally, but I need to give an explanation.” 林奇再次点头,“当然,不过我需要做一点说明。” The scene was also peaceful, Lynch looked to these audience, looked to the camera lens. 现场又安静了下来,林奇看向了那些观众,看向了摄像机镜头。 „The cause of matter was these workers stole the material of their factory, the operation made one pile of commodities of then to take to sell secretly, they also money divide/allocate, this was the behavior of burglary.” “事情的起因是这些工人偷盗了他们工厂的材料,偷偷开工生产了一堆的商品然后拿出去卖了,他们还把钱分了,这是盗窃的行为。” „The operator in factory filed the lawsuit to them, first two years of situations, they used up through money that the illegal method obtained as we all know quickly, they could not render back the money, court preparation judicial sale their houses.” “工厂的经营者对他们发起了诉讼,前两年的情况大家都知道,他们通过违法手段得到的钱很快就用完了,他们还不起钱,法院准备依法拍卖他们的房子。” „I bought these houses got down......” “我把这些房子买了下来……” The scene has the discussion, what if Lynch said is real, that in most people opinion, these people, although is worth sympathizing, but they indeed make mistakes. 现场已经有了一些议论声,如果林奇说的是真的话,那么在大多数人看来,这些人虽然值得同情,但他们的确犯了错。 People were sometimes unreasonable, but most of the time, the people three views were correct. 有时候人们不讲道理,但大多数时候,人们三观还是正确的。 Lynch continued, „I have not driven out from their houses them, what was opposite was I gave back to a they stable work.” 林奇则继续说着,“我没有把他们从他们的房子里赶出去,相反的是我还给了他们一份稳定的工作。” „They can come to take these houses with the wages of work, every month wants payment not much money , like the installment payment.” “他们可以用工作的工资来把这些房子重新拿回去,每个月只要支付不多的钱,和分期付款是一样的。” „From, can say that in fact I seized their house, but from the emotion, I do not think that I made the mistake.” “从事实上来说,可以说我夺走了他们的房子,但从情感上来说,我不认为我做错了。” „If I do not do that the bank will drive out them, they must live in the park with oneself family member, becomes one of the city vagrant clans.” “如果我不这么做,银行会把他们赶出去,他们要和自己的家人住到公园里,成为城市的流浪族之一。” „I make them not need to withstand these, gave back to their work, do I have making the mistake?” “我让他们不必去承受这些,还给了他们一份工作,我有做错吗？” The words just said, stage next looks very tall and strong, kept the guy of whiskers to stand, „Mr. Lynch, we supported you!” 话刚说完,台下一个看起来很魁梧,留着络腮胡的大汉站了起来,“林奇先生,我们支持你！” „Thanks!” “谢谢！”