HRE :: Volume #8

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After the big clean ended, the Tsar government more energy will invest into the negotiations, Prussia negotiated quickly entered the critical moment. 大清洗结束后,沙皇政府将更多的精力投入到谈判中,普俄谈判很快就进入了关键时刻。 The focus that both sides disputed centralized to ceded territory with the indemnity. Compares the indemnity, in fact cedes territory is easier to solve. 双方争议的焦点集中到了割地和赔款上。相比赔款,实际上割地还更加容易解决。 Prussia disputed what is most serious is the thing Prussia area, here is the den of Junker aristocrat, the Berlin government does not dare easily to drop. 普俄争议最严重的是东西普鲁士地区,这里是容克贵族的老巢,柏林政府不敢轻易放手。 However now these areas in the Russia person hand, as the defeated nation, Prussia absolutely do not have the ability to receive. 不过现在这些地区都在俄国人手中,作为战败国,普鲁士根本就没有能力收回来。 One type ceding territory called the established facts, this issue can definitely temporarily put aside, the time grew everyone also on be used. 有一种“割地”叫既定事实,这个问题完全可以暂时搁置下来,时间长了大家也就习惯了。 Junker aristocrats again how discontented , the change the Prussia kingdom strength was bad, was incapable of taking back the facts of these areas. 容克贵族们再怎么不满,也改变不了普鲁士王国实力不济,无力收回这些地区的事实。 Now the Berlin government is still striving, on the one hand has the anticipation to the big powers, counted on the strength that the dependence international interferes with, forcing the Russia person to make the concession ; On the other hand then for political show. 现在柏林政府还在争取,一方面是对列强抱有期待,指望依靠国际干涉的力量,逼迫俄国人做出让步;另一方面则是为了政治作秀。 Compares the dispute on territory, the indemnity is the real difficult problem. Prussia both countries are short of money now, no one is a willing worker the concessions. 相比领土上的争议,赔款才是真正的难题。普俄两国现在都缺钱,谁也不肯做出让步。 The Tsar government wants as far as possible many demanding war indemnity, to make up the fiscal debt of government ; The idea of Berlin government is just the opposite, the itself finance is difficult, radically being incapable large amount of indemnity. 沙皇政府想要尽可能多的索要战争赔款,以弥补政府的财政亏空;柏林政府的想法恰恰相反,本身自己财政就困难,根本就无力巨额赔款。 The genuine contradiction appeared, and that is unable to compromise. No matter the advantage of Russia person big, the Berlin government is two characters- does not have money. 真正的矛盾出现了,并且是无法调和的那种。不管俄国人的优势有多大,柏林政府就是两个字-没钱。 The Berlin government really does not have money, is not does not have money false, how is casual to make, cannot extract the oil. 柏林政府是真的没钱,不是假没钱,随便怎么弄,都榨不出油来。 Not is only to suddenly reparation payment, including owing the debt Berlin government temporarily suspend payment of English. 不光是对俄赔款支付不起,包括欠英国人的债务柏林政府都暂停支付。 It is said the Prussia First Lord of the Treasury has headed for London, seeming like must lobby the creditors to extend the debt deadline, or accepts with the payment in kind. 据说普鲁士财政大臣已经启程前往伦敦,似乎是要游说债主们延长债务期限,或者是接受用实物支付。 This lobby acts, being doomed is very difficult. The Prussia kingdom resources are deficient, the industrial technology strength is limited, the industry and commerce product competitiveness is limited. 这次游说行动,注定会很艰难。普鲁士王国资源匮乏,工业技术实力有限,工商业制品竞争力有限。 Even if payment in kind commodity can have certain discount, however under the high-quality British industry and commerce product competition, wants to sell is still a difficult problem. 就算是“实物支付”商品会有一定的折扣,但是在高质量的英国工商制品竞争下,想要销售出去也是一个难题。 Pure the competitiveness that inexpensive brings is limited, only if the price spread is disparate, otherwise the quality good commodity was related. 单纯的“廉价”带来的竞争力还是有限,除非价格差距非常悬殊,要不然还是质量好的商品更受关系。 In fact, the Prussia kingdom resources are insufficient, needs to import the industrial material from the overseas, the cost of industry and commerce product has come up. 事实上,普鲁士王国自身资源不足,需要从海外进口工业原材料,工商业制品的成本就已经上去了。 The only advantage, probably is the labor cost. It is a pity that the labor cost of the world is not nowadays high, except for some labor force intensive industries, most industry labor costs is only the small part of production cost. 唯一的优势,大概是人工成本。遗憾的是这年头全世界的人工成本都不高,除了部分劳动力密集型产业,大部分行业人工成本都只是生产成本的一小部分。 In fact, the Berlin government also proposed the suggestion of payment in kind war indemnity, finally was flatly refused by Russia representative. 事实上,柏林政府也提出了实物支付战争赔款的建议,结果被俄国代表一口回绝了。 Without the means that now what the Tsar government lacks is money, rather than the industry and commerce product, the foreign exchange gap is particularly serious. 没办法,沙皇政府现在缺的是钱,而不是工商业制品,尤其是外汇缺口非常严重。 This war, brought the large amount of trade deficit to Russian Empire, has to depend upon the foreign loan to maintain balanced. 这场战争,给俄罗斯帝国带来了巨额的贸易逆差,不得不依靠外债维持平衡。 Now the war ended, the Tsar government urgently needed a lot of foreign exchange are used to repay the debt, otherwise can only fill the pit with the really gold/metal silver. 现在战争结束了,沙皇政府急需大量的外汇用来偿还债务,要不然就只能拿真金白银去填坑。 English these pressures, have not attained the inexpensive industry and commerce product, but can also toward colony dumping, the wallet of creditors unable to owe. 英国人没有这些压力,拿到廉价的工商业制品,还可以往殖民地倾销,债主们的钱包不会亏。 The Tsar government attains these things only to use, in the taking away market the realization also can only be the ruble that print, trades less than the precious foreign exchange. 沙皇政府拿到这些东西就只能自家用,拿去市场上变现也只能是自家印刷的卢布,换不到宝贵的外汇。 Russia stretched out five fingers on behalf of Nichita Titov: „ 500 million aegises, this is our bottom line, cannot be low. 俄国代表尼基塔・季托夫伸出了五根手指:“5亿神盾,这是我们的底线,不能再低了。 For this war, Russian Empire at least paid the military expenses expenses of 3 billion aegises, caused the economic losses of over hundred million aegises. 要知道,为了这场战争,俄罗斯帝国至少付出了三十亿神盾的军费开销,造成了超过亿神盾的经济损失。 These are you create, indemnity amount that we request, merely is only loss 5%, is low. ” 这些都是你们造成的,我们要求的赔款数额,仅仅只是损失的百分之五,已经非常低了。” Without the problem, twice Prussia wars put together, including the suppression domestic civil strife expenditure, the military expenses expenses that the Tsar government paid truly surpassed 3 billion aegises. 没有毛病,两次普俄战争加在一起,包括镇压国内内乱的开支,沙皇政府支付的军费开销确实超过了三十亿神盾。 The economic loss not to mention, Poland-Lithuania area nearly was achieved white, very soon was Siwu Krane area to make into the ruins, twice wars the population losses that caused to Russian Empire surpass ten million/countless. 经济损失更不用说,波兰-立陶宛地区近乎被达成了白地,俄属西乌克兰地区被打成了废墟,两次战争给俄罗斯帝国造成的人口损失超过千万。 Loses to add completely these, 10 billion aegis that are has more than enough to spare. From this perspective, the indemnity request that the Tsar government set is not really high. 把这些损失全部加起来,一百亿神盾那是绰绰有余。从这方面来说,沙皇政府提出的赔款要求真的不高。 At least, they have not wanted the pension to the Berlin government. Otherwise these more than ten million people of pension, sold the Prussia kingdom unable to repay. 至少,他们没有向柏林政府要抚恤金。要不然这上千万人的抚恤金,卖了普鲁士王国也赔不起。 The politics is such realistic, if the Berlin government won, they are just, the war can define is: The national minorities that in order to liberate was enslaved by the Tsar government fight. 政治就是这么现实,如果柏林政府赢了,他们就是正义的,战争可以定义为:为了解放被沙皇政府奴役的少数民族而战。 The international community will define: Poland, Lithuania and very soon are Siwu Krane...... these areas are the territories that the Tsar government usurps. 国际社会会定义:波兰、立陶宛、俄属西乌克兰……这些地区都是沙皇政府强占的领土。 Since lost, is great, these areas are the territory of Russian Empire, the destruction of war to these areas, that is harming the property of Russian Empire. 既然输了,那么没得说,这些地区都是俄罗斯帝国的领土,战争对这些地区的破坏,那都是在损害俄罗斯帝国的财产。 Prussia poor-mouths on behalf of Guillan Von Mike Kyes decisively said: Disaster that „ Count, this war brings, not only your country is undertaking, we similarly are also the victims. 普鲁士代表吉莲-冯-麦克凯斯果断哭穷道:“伯爵阁下,这场战争带来的灾难,不只是贵国在承担,我们同样也是受害者。 Now the Prussia kingdom livelihood of the people on the wane, is filled with sufferers, the general public link the most basic life to be a problem, the government finance is unable to make ends meet, is really cannot draw cash. ” 现在普鲁士王国民生凋零、哀鸿遍野,普通民众连最基本的生活都成问题,政府财政入不敷出,实在是拿不出钱来。” Does not have money this is a multipurpose use, Guillan Von Mike Kyes did not fear that the Russia person will further butcher the Prussia kingdom, now the control area of Russia person is the bottom line that the European big powers can accept. “没钱”这是一个万能的利用,吉莲-冯-麦克凯斯不怕俄国人会进一步宰割普鲁士王国,现在俄国人的控制区是欧洲列强能够接受的底线。 If the Tsar government is not content, wanting one to swallow the Prussia kingdom, the UK , France Austria three Congress makes them know that who is the master in Europe. 如果沙皇政府不知足,想要一口吞下普鲁士王国,英法三国会让他们知道谁才是欧洲的主人。 It is not able to annex the Prussia kingdom, was not equal to that is unable to perish the Prussia kingdom, the Russia person, so long as is willing to pay the price, projects on Berlin to trade a government is not difficult. 无法吞并普鲁士王国,不等于无法灭亡普鲁士王国,俄国人只要肯付出代价,一路打到柏林去换一个政府并不难。 But such a , must increase the large amount of military expenses expenses. Post-war Prussia made into white, then do not think on the one cent indemnity. 只不过这么一来,又要增加巨额的军费开销。战后普鲁士被打成了白地,那就一分钱的赔款都不要想了。 No sane government, for the one breath, will ignore the national interest, particularly Russian such poor country, cannot resist money the charm. 没有哪个理智的政府,会为了一口气,就置国家利益于不顾,尤其是俄罗斯这样的穷国,更加不能抵御金钱的魅力。 The Tsar government has multi- being short of money, looked that in the negotiations with the payment currency of choice knew. 沙皇政府有多缺钱,看谈判中用选择的支付货币就知道了。 Generally speaking, related to war indemnity time, everyone will pay with the domestic currency. 一般来说,涉及到战争赔款的时候,大家都会用本国货币支付。 Choice aegis, but does not need ruble payment, the Tsar government also to have no recourse. 选择“神盾”,而不用“卢布”支付,沙皇政府也是迫不得已。 Breaks in the financial pressure, the Tsar government has to issue additionally the currency, the ruble in the continual depreciation. 破于财政压力,沙皇政府不得不增发货币,卢布正在持续贬值中。 In order to ensure own benefit, must assign one currency value stable currency, available is only left over the pound and aegis. 为了保证自家的利益,必须要指定一个币值稳定的货币,可供选择的就只剩下英镑和神盾。 The Russian Empire biggest creditors are Austria benefit, when the reserve foreign exchange inevitable being partial the aegis, originally ruble and financial pattern of pound hook, had been abandoned in the war. 俄罗斯帝国最大的债主是地利,在储备外汇的时候不可避免的偏向了神盾,原本卢布和英镑挂钩的金融模式,早就在战争中被废弃了。 Nichita Titov shakes the head, the severe rejection said: „ This is the issue that your government needs to consider, does the wrong thing always to need to shoulder the responsibility. 尼基塔・季托夫摇了摇头,严厉拒绝道:“这是贵国政府需要考虑的问题,做错事总是需要承担责任的。 Cannot pay the indemnity, finds the way to borrow, I think that your country definitely has the means to raise the adequate fund. 支付不起赔款,就想办法去借,我想贵国肯定有办法筹集到足够的资金。 If is really not good, we with own gives up taking, in brief these 500 million aegises cannot few point. ” 如果实在是不行,我们就用自己的放弃去取,总之这5亿神盾不能少一分。” Theoretically, if attained the war indemnities of 500 million aegises, the financial crisis that puzzles the Russia person is easily solved immediately. 理论上来说,如果拿到了五亿神盾的战争赔款,困扰俄国人的财政危机马上就迎刃而解。 Ahead of time pays the debt, but can save massive interest expenses. If all takes away to repay a debt, the foreign loan can cut in two at the waist immediately. 提前支付债务,可是能够节省大量利息开支的。假如全部拿去还债,外债立马就能够腰斩。 In order to force Prussia compromises, Nichita Titov start threat of without hesitation. Oneself take, can receive so much money? 为了逼迫普鲁士妥协,尼基塔・季托夫毫不犹豫的开始威胁。自己去取,能够拿到这么多钱么? Answer negative! 答案是否定的! Present Prussia, is Second German Empire of peak. To depend to remove the machine to make up for the war damage, even if removes the screw bolt, does not sufficiently collect five hundred million. 现在的普鲁士,还是巅峰时期的德二帝国。想要靠拆机器弥补战争损失,就算是把螺丝钉都拆完,也凑不够五个亿。 ...... …… Cannot yield, meets did not have money. both sides were also rival in chess, the negotiations reached the impass quickly. 不能让步,遇到了没钱。双方也算是棋逢对手,谈判很快陷入了僵局。 The Vienna palace, pays close attention to the Prussia negotiations Franz, at this time also had a headache. 维也纳宫,密切关注普俄谈判的弗朗茨,这个时候也头疼了起来。 The Prussia negotiations drag, benefits to Austria is also disadvantageous. 普俄谈判这么拖下去,对地利也非常不利。 If nothing else, does not give this war to mark a period, how can the new Vienna system be established? 别的不说,不给这场战争画上一个句号,新的维也纳体系如何能够建立起来? With the attitude of English, if they seize the chance not to do the matter, that was not an English, how otherwise to have stirred excrement stick the reputation. 以英国人的作风,如果他们趁机不搞事,那就不是英国人了,要不然怎么会有“搅屎棍”的美名。 A long delay usually means many problems, delaying the time to grow, no one knows the advantage that Austria benefitted can continue maintains. 正所谓夜长梦多,拖得时间长了,谁也不知道地利的优势能不能持续保持下去。 If missed this opportunity, the loss that Austria benefits must greatly. The Vienna system brings is not only only the reputation, huge political interest. 要是错过了这次机会,地利的损失就大得去了。维也纳体系带来的不仅仅只是名声,还有庞大的政治利益。 Foreign minister Wessenberg: „ Your majesty, the appetite of Russia person is too big, Prussia cannot undertake. 外交大臣韦森贝格:“陛下,俄国人的胃口太大,普鲁士根本就承担不起。 Perhaps the war indemnities of 500 million aegises, this must surpass in the European history all war indemnities sum totals, even is entire world all war indemnities adds, not necessarily has so many. ” 5亿神盾的战争赔款,这恐怕要超过欧洲历史上所有战争赔款的总和,甚至是全世界所有的战争赔款加起来,都不一定有这么多。” How? 多么? This age, truly is the sky-high price indemnity. The Franco-Prussian War of original space and time, the final war indemnity is about 5 billion francs, shocked the entire world. 在这个年代来看,确实是天价赔款。原时空的普法战争,最后的战争赔款也不过50亿法郎,都震惊了全世界。 Calculates at the present exchange rate, 5 billion francs also 400 million aegises. 以现在的汇率计算,50亿法郎也不过4亿神盾。 Naturally, considering the difference of age, ten years ago 400 million aegises, but also are not really less than the present 500 million aegises. 当然,考虑到年代的不一样,十年前的4亿神盾,还真不比现在的5亿神盾少。 However Prussia and France are completely two concepts. The French collected 5 billion francs easily, it is said surpassed ten hundreds of millions. 不过普鲁士和法兰西完全是两个概念。法国人轻而易举筹集了50亿法郎,据说超出了十几亿。 Must know that the Franco-Prussian War also beat the eastern several provinces, the economic loss exceeds 20 billion francs, the French government tens of billions francs huge debts, have not owed compared with the present Berlin government little. 要知道普法战争还打烂了东部几个省,经济损失超过200亿法郎,法国政府本身还有上百亿法郎的巨额债务,不比现在柏林政府欠得少。 The background thickly is such good, others lose, changed the Prussia kingdom unable to achieve. 底子厚实就是这么牛,人家损失的起,换了普鲁士王国根本就做不到。 Franz had not been touched, that was because of an indemnity of experience second war, the innermost feelings is over powerful, this money is very difficult to make him touch. 弗朗茨没有被触动,那是因为见识过一二战的赔款,内心已经非常强大,这点儿钱已经很难让他触动了。 After pondering the moment time, Franz nods: „ To the Berlin government, a little are truly many. Can Russia to make the concession? 沉思了片刻功夫后,弗朗茨点了点头:“对柏林政府来说,确实有点儿多。能够让俄国人做出让步么? For example: Reduces part of indemnities, or lengthens the payment age limit. The indemnity amount of every year paying, limits in range that in the Prussia kingdom can withstand. ” 比如说:减免一部分赔款,或者是延长支付年限。将每年支付的赔款数额,限制在普鲁士王国能够承受的范围之内。” Wessenberg shakes the head: „ Your majesty, this is very difficult. The harm that the war brings was too big, the Prussia kingdom almost does not have the paying capacity now. 韦森贝格摇了摇头:“陛下,这恐怕很难。战争带来的伤害太大了,普鲁士王国现在几乎没有支付能力。 The Russia person also owes our large amount of debts, any reduces, or is the suggestion of postponement of payment, is not suited to raise by us. ” 况且,俄国人还欠我们巨额的债务,任何减免、或者是延期支付的建议,都不适合由我们提出来。” Listened to this explanation reluctantly, Franz rubbed the forehead. Related to the self-interest, that means that has not resulted in discusses. 听了这个解释,弗朗茨无奈的揉了揉额头。涉及到了自身利益,那就意味着没得商量了。 If the Vienna government suggested that the Tsar government reduces the indemnity, the Russia person also requests Austria to benefit the debt moratorium, that was awkward. 要是维也纳政府建议沙皇政府减免赔款,俄国人也要求地利减免债务,那就令人尴尬了。 The finance is not good to be able not to lose money, is this possible? According to this logic, how does Austria benefit collects debts to the Russia person? 财政不好就可以不赔钱,这怎么可能呢?按照这个逻辑,地利如何向俄国人收账? Franz asked: By the current situation, how long the finance of Tsar government can also support?” 弗朗茨问道:“以目前的情况来看,沙皇政府的财政还能够支撑多久?” The Prussia truce, was not equal to that the war had ended. A treaty day has not signed, the war does not calculate that finished truly. 普俄停战,不等于战争已经结束了。条约一天没有签订,战争就不算真正结束。 Now the Prussia two countries over a million armies are still also confronting in the boundary, even if not go to war, food and drink that light/only these over a million open mouth, the daily expenses are not a small number. 现在普俄两国还有上百万大军还在边界上对峙着,就算是不打仗,光这上百万张嘴的吃喝,每天的开销也不是一个小数字。 To fiscal not good Prussia both countries, definitely has the pressure. 对财政不好的普俄两国来说,肯定是有压力的。 Prime minister Felix replied: „ Can support two to three months probably, the threat in force of Russia person, cannot daunt the Prussia kingdom, has the direct relation with this. 首相费利克斯回答道:“大概能够支撑两到三个月,俄国人的武力威胁,没能吓住普鲁士王国,也和这有直接关系。 If the Prussia war continues, most conducted for a month, the Tsar government must make money Huang. 如果普俄战争继续下去,最多进行一个多月,沙皇政府又要闹钱慌了。 Not is only the Russia person is short of money, Prussia also very many. If not general army stationed in the native place, will reduce the transportation consumption, the Berlin government first may also go bankrupt. ” 不光是俄国人缺钱,普鲁士也好不了多少。如果不是普军驻扎在本土,减少了运输消耗,柏林政府可能还会先破产。” Two poor devils compared with patient, Franz was also speechless. According to the current situation, is not the Prussia kingdom must compensate how much money the issues, but is they can take how much money. 两个穷鬼在比耐心,弗朗茨也是无语了。按照目前的情况,已经不是普鲁士王国要赔多少钱的问题,而是他们能够拿出来多少钱。
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