Chengdu. 蓉城。 Bustled about received the urgent notice from Chen Hao in leaf boat of nuclear fusion project, suspended the entire job, came to two people fixed meeting office. 忙碌于核聚变项目的叶舟收到了来自陈昊的紧急通知,暂停了全部工作,来到了两人固定会面的办公室里。 „What matter is this time?” “这次是什么事情？” Looks at opposite serious Chen Hao, leaf boat opens the mouth to ask. 看着对面神情严肃的陈昊,叶舟开口问道。 „We caught a fish, is an organization named madrigal ---- Before this organization is us, has chatted the west castrates the organization that the person gathers, he disclosed some information to us.” “我们抓到了一条鱼,属于一个叫牧歌的组织----这个组织就是我们之前聊过的西方阉割主义者聚集成的组织,他向我们透露了一些信息。” Hears this saying, leaf boat brow wrinkles slightly. 听到这话,叶舟眉头微微皱起。 „Do you want to crack down on this organization? However is this little significance with me? Issue of this social governance .......” “你们是想打击这个组织？但是这跟我没有太大关系吧？这种社会治理的问题.......” „It is not.” “不是。” Ye Zhou's words have not said, Chen Hao then opened the mouth to break him directly ---- This situation is quite rare in two people exchanges , from this detail, leaf boat realized keenly this time matter is not so simple. 叶舟的话还没说完,陈昊便直接开口打断了他----这种情况在两人的交流中极为罕见,从这个细节上看,叶舟敏锐地意识到了这次的事情也许并不是那么简单。 „With emphasis is not to the strategy of this organization, was the members of organization ejected a concept, we needed your help to confirm this concept.” “重点不是对这个组织的策略,是组织的成员抛出了一个概念,我们需要你的帮助来验证这个概念。” „What concept?” “什么概念？” „Degradation of energy. They believe, according to the third-level civilized theory division, the human civilization stemming from 0.4 level, this causes our entire civilization to pat the relatively position near the top in the neighboring civilized elimination priority now ---- Also is 20 years later.” “能量降级。他们认为,按照三级文明理论划分,现在人类文明出于0.4级,这导致我们整个文明在相邻维文明的消灭优先级拍到了相对靠前的位置----也就是二十年之后。” „If we can through the overall plan method, the facility that gives up majority not needing, give up the non- necessary energy creation, can reduce the energy progression of human civilization to below 0.1, thus in order, extends the elimination serial number.” “如果我们能通过统筹手段,放弃大部分不需要的设施、放弃非必要的能源创造,就可以把人类文明的能源级数降低到0.1以下,从而顺次后延消灭序号。” „According to their model estimates, because of the neighboring attack, in entire universe the quantity of extant civilization approximately about 20 trillion, quantity about 1 trillion of over 0.4 level of civilizations, if we can reduce the energy progression to 0.1, at least can help human win about 200 years steady progression time.” “按照他们的模型估计,因为相邻维的进攻,整个宇宙中现存文明的数量大约在20万亿个左右,其中超过0.4级文明的数量大约有1万亿个,如果我们能将能量级数降低到0.1,就至少可以帮助人类赢得200年左右的稳定发展时间。” „Under this development time, they will use the minimum price to attack the most advanced fundamental physics science, thus decodes the truth of neighboring energy extraction, closes the neighboring channel.” “在这个发展时间之下,他们会利用最小的代价去冲击最先进的基础物理科学,从而破解相邻维能量抽取的真相,关闭相邻维通道。” Listens to Chen Hao explanation, Ye Zhou's facial expression slightly changes. 听完陈昊的解释,叶舟的神情略微一变。 Gains the strongest technology with the minimum price ....... this set of theory sounds is so familiar? 用最小的代价获取最强的技术.......这套理论听起来怎么那么熟悉？ As if many countries have put forward such theory in each different stage, but few has succeeded...... 似乎很多国家在各个不同的阶段都提出过这样的理论,但是几乎没有人成功过...... Gives the devil his due, leaf boat is not certainly willing to accept the theory of opposite party, the development path that because this concept chooses, as well as he who does the path that sees from the simulator contradicts with he himself completely, but from the rational perspective, he has to abandon own subjective consciousness, ponders this issue from the angle of pure science. 平心而论,叶舟当然是不愿意接受对方的理论的,因为这个概念所选择的发展道路跟他自己正在做的、以及他从模拟器中所看到的道路是完全相悖的,但从理性的角度来说,他又不得不抛开自己的主观意识,从纯科学的角度去思考这个问题。 Neighboring invades is an extremely complex issue, must solve this crisis, human must try all possible paths ---- Perhaps most times, the first chosen path is uncertain is right. 相邻维入侵是一个极度复杂的问题,要解决这个危机,人类必须尝试所有可能的道路----也许在很多时候,第一条被选择的道路不一定是对的。 Thinks of here, he shakes the head gently, opens the mouth to ask: 想到这里,他轻轻摇头,开口问道: „Except for these? What did he add? The concept that you give now was too broad, I have no way to act according to these words to determine their concepts to be correct.” “除了这些呢？他还说了什么？你现在给出的概念太宽泛了,我没法依据这些话就判定他们的概念到底正不正确。” „Watches the video recording, he said that I have no way to rephrase in own words completely.” “看录像吧,他说了很多,我没法全部转述。” Is saying, Chen Hao while oneself computer connection in the big screen, later, presented from the monitoring video of in the air bird's-eye shot in leaf boat at present. 一边说着,陈昊一边把自己的电脑连接上了大屏,随后,一段从空中俯拍的监控视频出现在了叶舟眼前。 In the picture obviously is an interrogation chamber, but in the interrogation chamber sits, before seized Chen Wu. 画面中显然是一个审讯室,而审讯室里坐着的,正是之前被逮住的陈武。 The video starts in interrogation selects on that moment of smoke to him, after that segment who starts to talk, Chen Wu said the name of madrigal organization. 视频开始于审讯员给他点上烟的那一刻,在最开始的那段对话之后,陈武说出了牧歌组织的名字。 Opposite interrogation after hearing this name sat on own chair, then opened the mouth to ask: 对面的审讯员在听到这个名字之后重新坐回了自己的椅子上,然后开口问道: „Madrigal organization? What are your objectives? What did you make?” “牧歌组织？你们的宗旨是什么？你们做了什么？” Chen Wu deeply smoked cigarette, says: 陈武深深吸了一口烟,开口说道: „Comrade, I was very happy that you do not have to ask the headquarters that again I organize where, you also know, this is a very stupid issue ---- How did I possibly disclose such secret information?” “同志,我很高兴你没有再问我组织的总部在哪里,你也知道,这是一个很愚蠢的问题----我怎么可能透露这么机密的信息呢？” „This is the basic point that we resist, regardless in all circumstances, me will not divulge to you, only if we have become the mainstream world.” “这是我们抗争的基点,无论在任何情况下,我都不会向你们泄露,除非我们已经成为了社会主流。” „You can ask that ‚objective’ this word, I am very gratified, this at least showed, you are not numb, does not refuse to communicate.” “你能问出‘宗旨’这个词,我很欣慰,这至少证明,你并不是麻木的,并不是拒绝沟通的。” „Such attitude is very well good ......., I said that too, you seem like some is not impatient.” “这样的态度很好.......好吧,我说太多了,你似乎有些不耐烦。” „Then we directly enter the subject. However, before I explained our objectives, I must first ask your question: You believe, the technology explodes with the development of social productive forces, exists necessarily relates?” “那么我们就直接进入正题吧。不过,在我解释我们的宗旨之前,我要先问你一个问题:你认为,技术爆炸与社会生产力发展之间,存在必然联系吗？” Professionally-trained interrogation controlled own mood very well, his slight nod, replied: 受过专业训练的审讯员很好地控制了自己的情绪,他微微点头,回答道: „Naturally, from the experience of history, each technical explosion comes along with the development of human productive forces, and each recent technology development, is the productive forces that the above technology explodes to enhance for the foundation .......” “当然,从历史的经验来看,每一次的技术爆炸都是伴随着人类生产力的发展而来的,并且每一次新的技术发展,都是以上一次技术爆炸所提升的生产力为基础的.......” „What you said is the application technique, right?” “你说的是应用技术,对吗？” Interrogation gawked gawked, but also without he replied, Chen Wu then continued. 审讯员愣了一愣,还没等他回答,陈武便继续说了下去。 „Yes, from the perspective of application technique, your viewpoint is correct, for example steam engine, internal combustion engine, nuclear reactor, modern electronic and communication ....... these all technology development, based on productive forces.” “是的,从应用技术的角度来说,你的观点是正确的,比如蒸汽机、内燃机、核反应堆、现代电子和通信技术.......这些所有的技术发展,都是以生产力为基础的。” „But, I want to ask that now your is, does the development of pure theory research, have the relations with the productive forces?” “但是,我现在想要问你的是,纯理论研究的发展,跟生产力有关系吗？” „Naturally has, without the development of productive forces, who is raising these scientists? Also, the foundation of modern physics was the microphysics experiment, in situation that for example the large-scale collider and so on, the productive forces were insufficient, did you construct the collider with what?” “当然有,如果没有生产力的发展,谁来养着这些科学家？再说,现代物理的基础是微观物理实验,比如大型对撞机之类的,生产力不足的情况下,你拿什么来建设对撞机？” Hears this saying, on Chen Wu's face revealed wiped the happy expression, he sighed put out smoke rings, then said: 听到这话,陈武的脸上露出了一抹笑意,他感叹似的吐出了一口烟圈,然后开口说道: „Your aspect of knowledge should surpass most average people, I also think that you are pure interrogators......, but, your cognition is to have the limit.” “你的知识面应该超过了大多数的普通人,我还以为你就是一个单纯的审讯人员而已......但是,你的认知是存在局限的。” „I first did not discuss the issue of related modern physics with you, did not discuss whether the large-scale granule collider has exceeded the quantity that human has needed, here, I first asked your question: When did Newton propose three big laws?” “我先不跟你讨论有关现代物理学的问题,也不去讨论大型粒子对撞机是否已经超过了人类所需要的数量,在这里,我先问你一个问题:牛顿是在什么时候提出三大定律的？” „In the 17 th century, the specific time I do not know.” “17世纪,具体的时间我不知道。” „Very good, I can tell you, was in 1687. You know that what condition the 17 th century Europe was?” “很好,我可以告诉你,是1687年。你知道17世纪的欧洲是什么样的状况吗？” „....... I am not the historical research personnel.” “.......我不是历史研究人员。” The facial expression of interrogation is calm, he knows that oneself cannot fall into the rhythm of opposite party absolutely, therefore, the most effective strategy do not reply that the issue of opposite party, making he himself say. 审讯员的神情波澜不惊,他知道自己绝对不能陷入对方的节奏中去,所以,最有效的策略就是不要回答对方的问题,让他自己去说。 Opposite Chen Wu slight nod, opens the mouth saying: 对面的陈武微微点头,开口道: „This is very normal, I did not understand this phase of history before......, but, I can tell you now.” “这很正常,我之前也并不了解这段历史......不过,现在我可以告诉你。” „The 17 th century European plague ran amuck , the chaos caused by war frequency to send under-populated, since the neonatal mortality rate achieved 200 years peaks, the commodity economy rapid growth, but social productive forces not remarkable progress ---- Naturally, you can also refute me with the history that the so-called seaborne commerce and East India Company establish, the point is that what these things represent is the productive force development?” “17世纪的欧洲瘟疫横行、人口稀少、战乱频发,新生儿死亡率达到了两百年以来的巅峰,商品经济快速发展,但社会生产力并没有明显的进步----当然,你也可以用所谓的海上贸易、东印度公司建立的历史来反驳我,可问题是,这些东西代表的是生产力发展吗？” „No, what it represents communicates and progress of exchange.” “不,它代表的是沟通和交流的进步。” „In such environment, Newton proposed three big laws, but these three big laws until today, and even in the future infinite far time, will have the cannot erase influence on human.” “就是在这样的环境下,牛顿提出了三大定律,而这三大定律直到今天、乃至在未来无限远的时间内,都还会对人类产生不可磨灭的影响。” „Meanwhile, was born one in that time large quantities and he equally outstanding scientist, Descartes establishes the analytical geometry and Javier to establish the blood circulation saying that Leibniz and Newton creates the calculus, in addition to have Euler, Lagrange, Copernicus, Galileo .......” “同时,在那个时代还诞生了一大批跟他一样优秀的科学家,笛卡尔创立了解析几何学、哈维尔建立了血液循环说、莱布尼茨和牛顿创造了微积分、另外还有欧拉、拉格朗日、哥白尼、伽利略.......” „These people subverted some old knowledge systems thoroughly, founded the modern natural science system, can say that ended the age of barbarism of human thoroughly.” “这些人彻底颠覆了旧有的知识体系,开创了近代自然科学体系,可以说彻底终结了人类的蒙昧时代。” „Then I must ask you now, these science transform, what is its source? This is a very simple issue, you should study in the middle school history.” “那么我现在要问你,这些科学变革,它的源头是什么？这是一个很简单的问题,你在初中历史就应该学过的。” „....... Is the Renaissance.” “.......是文艺复兴。” „Right!” “没错！” Chen Wu hammered a desktop excitedly, the constrained belt/bring on hand collided the clear sound with the iron chair. 陈武兴奋地锤了一下桌面,手上的拘束带跟铁椅碰撞出清脆的响声。 „Therefore, actually you also approve this viewpoint, not?” “所以,其实你也认可这个观点,不是吗？” „Did you also discover? The scientific revolution and relations of productive force development, are not such that such as you think. The scientific revolution promoted the productive force development, rather than the productive force development promoted the scientific revolution!” “你也发现了吧？科学革命和生产力发展的关系,并不是如你所想的那样的。是科学革命推动了生产力发展,而不是生产力发展推动了科学革命！” „Right, you will certainly continue to refute me, you will certainly say, when the modern science develops the certain extent, we need the corresponding material basis to support the scientific experiment, for example the development of microbiology relies on the microscope, for example the high-energy physics research depends on the collider .......” “对,你当然会继续反驳我,你当然会说,当现代科学发展到一定程度的时候,我们需要相应的物质基础来支持科学实验,比如说微生物学的发展是依赖于显微镜的、比如高能物理研究是依托于对撞机的.......” „But, we had saying that didn't need these things?” “但是,我们有说不需要这些东西吗？” „No! The madrigal organization had not said that must completely reject the modern experiment technique, we must do, but eliminates these completely unnecessary production of power and consumption!” “没有啊！牧歌组织从来就没有说过要完全拒绝现代的实验技术,我们要做的,只是摒除那些完全没有必要的能量生产和消耗！” „You had not discovered, most energies that human creates ---- No, is not the creation, concentrates ---- Most energies that human concentrates, were consumed in the completely useless domain!” “你难道还没有发现,人类所创造出来的大部分能量----不,不是创造,是富集----人类富集的大部分能量,都被消耗在完全无用的领域！” „We constructed means of communication that is found in the world, bordered news that only to transmit these blots out the sky ; We produced the huge quantity of nuclear weapons, for only attacks to the person on one's own side mutually ; We made the airplane, giant wheel and new energy automobile, what is the goal? Staple commodity exchange? Wrong! Now massive transportation ample capacities, actually waste on the pure consumptive commodity!” “我们建设了遍布全球的通信设施,只为了传递那些铺天盖地的花边新闻;我们制造了数量庞大的核武器,只为了对自己人互相攻伐;我们制造了飞机、巨轮、新能源汽车,目的是什么呢？重要商品交换？错了！现在大量的交通运力,其实都浪费在了纯粹消耗性的商品上！” „These commodities cannot bring any promotion to the development of science, they just satisfied human for the desire that inflates day by day!” “这些商品并不能给科学的发展带来任何的提升,他们只不过是用于满足人类日益膨胀的欲望！” „Therefore, if we can remove these desires thoroughly? If we can form a unified social idea, makes full use of the limited energy, concentrates these energies in the scientific development crucial field that you said that what happened?” “所以,如果我们能彻底排除掉这些欲望呢？如果我们能形成一个统一的社会思潮,充分利用有限的能量,将这些能量富集在你所说的科学发展的关键领域,会发生什么事情？” „Yes, the level of living of human will certainly have the naked eye obvious drop ....... for example we unable to eat the fruit from distant place again, we cannot see thousand li (500 km) the Eight Trigrams (gossip) outside of some star, we cannot hear these decadent music ---- However, these really important?” “是的,人类的生活水平当然会有肉眼可见的下降.......比如我们再也吃不到来自远方的水果,我们看不到千里之外的某个明星的八卦,我们也听不到那些靡靡之音----但是,这些真的重要吗？” „In the past several thousand years, we did not have these things, but the human civilization still lived well!” “在过去的几千年里,我们没有这些东西,但人类文明仍然活得好好的！” „At this point, you should be able to understand matter that the madrigal organization must handle?” “说到这里,你应该能理解牧歌组织要做的事情了吧？” „Comrade, we have not really wanted to destroy human, we also absolutely are not the surrender person ....... we are only, wants to use a purer way, resists our common enemies.” “同志,我们真的没有想要毁灭人类,我们也绝对不是投降主义者.......我们只是,想用更纯粹的方式,来对抗我们共同的敌人。” „In this process, we need to give up something, we need to reduce the overall resources use, the most domain backing up meetings of entire human society ‚countryside madrigal’ time, but simultaneously, in the crucial fields of these scientific development, we will not give up!” “在这个过程中,我们需要放弃一些东西,我们需要降低整体的资源使用,整个人类社会的大部分领域都会倒退会‘田园牧歌’的时代,但是同时,在那些科学发展的关键领域,我们绝不会放弃！” „All highest-quality and most sufficient energy will concentrate in these domains, enabling them to go all-out to study, breaks through, then uses enough time ---- This time probably is the key question that 200 years of solution and neighboring invade, thus realizes to saving of human!” “所有最优质、最充足的能量都会集中在这些领域,让他们可以尽全力去研究、去突破,然后利用充足的时间----这个时间大概是两百年解决与相邻维入侵的关键问题,从而实现对人类的拯救！” „The madrigal organization's ideal world, is not so-called ‚castrates principle’ human of plan, in neighboring invades the world that under the background lives on dishonorably, but endures humiliation, hundred years of the world that sharpens the sword!” “牧歌组织理想的世界,不是所谓的‘阉割主义’绘制的人类在相邻维入侵背景下苟活的世界,而是忍辱负重、百年磨剑的世界！” „In our world, most people will settle in the simple tranquil life, they will maintain the most basic level of living ---- Several hundred years ago.” “在我们的世界里,绝大多数人都将安于简单平静的生活,他们将会维持最基本的生活水平----就像几百年前一样。” „Countryside madrigal and man work and women weave cloth, but, in being far away from their energy enrichment region, in human the most intelligent that group of people will be concentrated, with the peak wisdom, the most advanced equipment, goes to look for the outlet for the entire human civilization!” “田园牧歌、男耕女织,但同时,在远离他们的能量富集区,人类中最聪明的那批人将会被集中起来,用最顶尖的智慧、最先进的设备,去为整个人类文明寻找出路！” „This is the future prospect that the madrigal organization draws up...... now, you also thought that I am a criminal of anti-human?” “这就是牧歌组织所绘制的未来图景......现在,你还觉得我是一个反人类的罪犯吗？” https:// https:// Talent one second remembers the home station address:. 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