„Teacher Euclid, what do you then want to make?” Suye asked. “欧几里德老师,您接下来要做什么？”苏业问。 „The Sparta magic market is too small, does not have magician of proficiency how much, I only want to stay here, reads, after Special Envoy Athens definite news, tomorrow will start.” Euclid said. “斯巴达的魔法市场太小,也没有精通几何的魔法师,我只想留在这里,看看书,等雅典特使确定消息后,明天启程。”欧几里德道。 „Won't you forget Sparta all old friends?” Suye looks askance to look slightly to Euclid. “你不会把斯巴达的所有老朋友都忘了吧？”苏业微微侧目看向欧几里德。 Euclid carefully thought for a long time, said: „I cannot remember in Sparta have what friend.” 欧几里德认真想了许久,道:“我想不起在斯巴达有什么朋友。” „You won. However, I am also happen to all right, was inferior that we do chat the matter about geometry?” Suye asked. “你赢了。不过,我正好也没事,不如我们聊聊关于几何学的事情？”苏业问。 „Do you really understand the how much?” Euclid looks at Suye with suspicion objective. “你真懂几何？”欧几里德用怀疑的目标看着苏业。 Suye wants saying that now understands compared with you, later did not say certainly. 苏业很想说现在比你懂,之后说不准。 „Does not understand, consults to you. I believe, you have certainly heard Actual Combat Skill, the present is you uses the Actual Combat Skill good time.” Suye said. “就是不懂,才向您请教。我相信,你一定听说过费曼技巧,现在正是你使用费曼技巧的好时候。”苏业道。 Euclid hesitant a while, said: „Good, I do not like wasting the time, but you are different, whose vision I compare to believe that.” 欧几里德犹豫了一会儿,道:“好吧,我不太喜欢浪费时间,但你不同,我还是比较相信那个谁的眼光。” „Aristotle.” Suye said. “亚里士多德。”苏业道。 „Right, is he.” “对,就是他。” Then, two people start to discuss the related geometry knowledge. 接下来,两个人开始讨论有关几何学的知识。 Suye discovered, the Euclid geometric knowledge stays on geometry of Pythagoras school of thought completely, but, is different from the disciple of Pythagoras school of thought that Euclid always thought that geometry of this school of thought has some flaw, but he actually cannot look. 苏业发现,欧几里德的几何知识完全停留在毕达哥拉斯学派的几何学上,但是,和毕达哥拉斯学派的弟子不同,欧几里德总觉得这个学派的几何学有某种缺陷,但是他却找不出来。 At this time, Euclid did not know Dorcus's theory of proportion, without hearing the syllogism of Aristotle, has not naturally been able to create the foundation of later generation science in these two's foundation, axiomization. 这时候,欧几里德既不知道欧多克斯的比例论,也没听说过亚里士多德的三段论,自然也就不能在这两者的基础上创造出后世科学的根基,公理化。 Suye in must say hesitant directly, but always felt, if oneself must say the axiomization, must say the syllogism, moreover must say the theory of proportion, but these three knowledge were too great. 苏业一直在犹豫要不要直接说出来,但总觉得如果自己要说公理化,就要说三段论,而且还要说比例论,但这三种知识太宏大了。 Made up for the Pythagoras school of thought geometry flaw compared with the theory, the syllogism is the foundation of logic, the axiomization is ten thousand world not the easy scientific foundation, any point takes, can the world sensation, although most people some time will not even be clear about these knowledge in a short time the true values. 比理论弥补了毕达哥拉斯学派几何学的缺陷,三段论则是逻辑学的基础,公理化更是万世不易的科学根基,任何一个点拿出来,都能轰动世界,虽然在短时间内甚至大多数人在相当长的时间内都不清楚这些知识的真正价值。 Finally, Suye restrained the expression, only discussed in the existing geometry frame, never proposed the theorem or the axiom, did not raise the axiomization of most foundation. 最终,苏业克制住了表达,只在现有的几何学框架中讨论,始终不提定理或公理,也不提最根基的公理化。 Except for the discussion how much, two people discussed other things occasionally, from the beginning Euclid also somewhat shut out, obviously thought Suye lost the own time, because he must pursue the final truth of the world steadfastly, looked dealt with Suye in that ten ten thousand golden eagle face. 除了谈论几何,两人偶尔谈论其他事情,一开始欧几里德还有些嫌弃,明显觉得苏业耽误自己的时间,因为他要坚定不移追寻世界的最终真理,是看在那十万金雄鹰的面子上应付苏业。 But with the deepening of discussion, Euclid completely forgets the original intention, starts to exchange math, how much, philosophy, magic, history, culture, civilization wait/etc aspects with Suye earnestly. 但随着讨论的深入,欧几里德完全忘记初衷,开始跟苏业认真交流数学、几何、哲学、魔法、历史、文化、文明等等方方面面。 Suye in the process of chat, writes to draw on Magic Book occasionally. 苏业在聊天的过程中,偶尔在魔法书上写写画画。 „Do not record too many knowledge nodes, must record most foundation the thing. Once we excessively rely on the superficial knowledge node, definitely will neglect the true principle.” The Euclid gentle reminder said. “不要记太多的知识点,一定要记最根基的东西。一旦我们过度依赖肤浅的知识点,必然会忽视真正的原理。”欧几里德善意提醒道。 „Unusual such as you, so long as remembers the foundation the thing then, but ordinary such as I, not only need record the foundation the thing, must record the important knowledge node, among relation through knowledge nodes, inquires into the whole world. However, I recorded a moment ago many, is not the knowledge node.” Suye said. “超凡如您,只要记住根基的东西即可,但平凡如我,不仅要记根基的东西,也要记重要的知识点,通过知识点之间的联系,来探究整个世界。不过,我刚才记录最多的,不是知识点。”苏业道。 „What is that?” “那是什么？” „Your thinking pattern, you ponder the issue the route, or a logical line.” “您的思考方式,您思考问题的路线,或者说一种逻辑线。” „Logic?” The Euclid eyes shine. “逻辑？”欧几里德双眼放光。 Suye realized that oneself made a small mistake, the logic is the Aristotle official establishment, now Aristotle should not say. However, in this exchange, really does not have the means not to propose this most foundation the words and expressions. 苏业意识到自己犯了一个小小的错误,逻辑是亚里士多德正式确立的,现在亚里士多德应该还没说。但是,在这种交流中,实在没办法不提这个最基础的词语。 „Logic, creation's logos ( logos ) this words and expressions is derived by King of Fire Grandmaster Heraclitus.” Suye has to explain. “逻辑,是由火之王赫拉克利特大师创造的逻各斯(logos)这个词语衍生出来的。”苏业只好解释。 Euclid extends both hands to hold two wrists/skills of Suye suddenly, the eyes sees the fragrant roasting beef just like the hungry insane alone wolf. 欧几里德突然伸出双手抓住苏业的两只手腕,双眼宛如饿疯的独狼见到香喷喷的烤牛肉。 Suye frightens to kick almost. 苏业吓得差点一脚踢过去。 Euclid said excitedly loudly: „I most like logos! logos is the magic source, logos is the foundation of the world, although logos of World of Magic to King of Fire discusses the difference now, the person but who accepts are getting more and more. What can tell me is the logic? I have a feeling, in this words and expressions, is certainly hiding the great strength.” 欧几里德兴奋地大声道:“我最喜欢逻各斯！逻各斯就是魔法的本源,逻各斯就是世界的基础,虽然现在魔法界对火之王的逻各斯论有分歧,但接受的人越来越多。能告诉我什么是逻辑吗？我有一种感觉,这个词语中,一定隐藏着伟大的力量。” Suye is silent. 苏业沉默不语。 logos in the philosophy neutralizes in the magic study, is equivalent to „main road”, it can be said that magic rule, it can be said that the magic source, but at the present, representative the latter are more. 逻各斯在哲学中和魔法学中,相当于“大道”,既可以说是魔法的规律,也可以说是魔法的本源,但在现在,代表后者多一些。 The Suye ponder long time, said: „I run frequently the lion port, to sea ponder issue. In fact, I change the words and expressions of Grandmaster very much ashamed carelessly, but, I always felt, logos this words and expressions were too big, it refers to the magic source being better. But by logos being continued the strength, for example, between magic or the thing the most essential relation, the existed one constant relations or the rule, can call it the logic.” 苏业沉思良久,道:“我经常跑去狮子港,对着大海思考问题。实际上,我很惭愧胡乱更改大师的词语,但是,我总觉得,逻各斯这个词语太大了,它还是指魔法本源更好。而由逻各斯延续出的力量,比如,魔法或事物之间最本质的联系,存在的一种恒定的关系或规律,可以称其为逻辑。” „Naturally, my understanding of this words and expressions is very superficial, but my some feelings, the logic is words and expressions of illustrious later generation.” Suye ambiguous say/way. “当然,我对这个词语的理解还很肤浅,但我有种感觉,逻辑是一个光耀后世的词语。”苏业含含糊糊道。 „Right! A point right! The source of the world is logos, the world's most fundamental relation is the logic! Too wonderful, too wonderful......” “没错！一点没错！世界的本源是逻各斯,世界之间最根本的联系就是逻辑！太美妙了,太美妙了……” Euclid lets loose Suye suddenly, sets out to walk back and forth in the living room, the complexion is crimson, is excited the whole body to shiver. 欧几里德突然放开苏业,起身在客厅里走来走去,面色绯红,兴奋得全身颤抖。 „logos, logic...... right, logical words and expressions were too wonderful! I always thought that the how much of Pythagoras school of thought lacks anything, right, is the logic, is the logic! Heavens, Suye, you are really the talent, sorry, I underestimated you! From today, Plato Academy from the Four Heroes change is five. If must maintain the name of Four Heroes, that kicks out that barbarian warrior Alexander! He only wants to become the Mortal World king, but we must become the philosophy king and magic king! He does not coordinate our four people to post! His highest position also occupies the pitiful several pages in the history book, but true Plato, must occupy in the human mind, ten thousand th ten thousand years, eternally unchanging!” “逻各斯,逻辑……对,逻辑这个词语太美妙了！我总觉得毕达哥拉斯学派的几何缺少什么东西,对,就是逻辑,就是逻辑！天啊,苏业,你真是天才,对不起,我小看你了！从今天开始,柏拉图学院从四杰变化为五杰。如果一定要保持四杰的称呼,那就把那个野蛮人战士亚历山大踢出去！他只想成为人间的王,而我们要成为哲学王、魔法王！他不配和我们四个人并列！他最高地位也不过是在史书上占据可怜的几页,而真正的柏拉图,要占据在人类的头脑中,万世万年,永恒不变！” Suye dully looks at Euclid that dances with joy, he said actually a point right, the length that although Euclid and other Grandmasters account for in the history book is inferior to Alexander, but, their thought truly occupy the brain of later generation everyone. 苏业呆呆地看着手舞足蹈的欧几里德,他说的其实一点都没错,虽然欧几里德等大师在史书所占的篇幅不如亚历山大,但是,他们的思想确确实实占据着后世每个人的大脑。 However, didn't expect Plato Academy also has this type of despising chain. 不过,没想到柏拉图学院还有这种鄙视链。 „Logic, the logic...... was too wonderful! Too wonderful! This is next to the logos ultimate good beautiful thing absolutely...... no no no, this is the ultimate good beautiful thing that and logos is equal. Dear Suye, you are a beacon light! You are God! You are the philosophy king! Gets rid of Aristotle, you are the Plato true disciple! Aristotle that fool, he cannot compare you, your creation's logic can steamroll his all achievements, he before you, be only an ant, hahahaha...... I understand why suddenly he looks at the ant daily, originally is observing oneself...... this saying you to him do not say, he is stingy.” Euclid spoke of finally, berserk in look pale was so little. “逻辑,逻辑……太美妙了！太美妙了！这绝对是仅次于逻各斯的至善美物……不不不,这是和逻各斯等同的至善美物。亲爱的苏业,你就是明灯！你就是神灵！你就是哲学王！干掉亚里士多德,你才是柏拉图的真正弟子！亚里士多德那个笨蛋,他比不上你,你创造的逻辑可以碾压他的一切成就,他在你面前,只是一只蚂蚁,哈哈哈哈……我突然明白他为什么天天看蚂蚁,原来是在观察自己……这话你不要对他说,他心狠手黑。”欧几里德说到最后,眼神中的狂热淡了那么一点点。 Suye does not know whether to laugh or cry, it seems like Euclid has not been short with Aristotle discusses the abstruse magic principle, moreover two people have the difference evidently, but, is only the difference in idea. 苏业哭笑不得,看来欧几里德没少和亚里士多德讨论深奥的魔法原理,而且看样子两个人有分歧,不过,只是理念上的分歧。 „cough cough, I was also in the past few days after Teacher Aristotle chatted, is inspired, in addition the experience of lion port, discovered logical words and expressions.” Suye busy say/way. “咳咳,我也是前些天跟亚里士多德老师聊天后,受到启发,加上狮子港的经历,才发现逻辑这个词语。”苏业忙道。 „no no no, is I, is I. Besides you, I am first person who knows the logic, Aristotle are most is only second......, first do not say to him, I must tell him personally anything am the logic, he will be certainly dumbfounded, certainly incomparably will admire is looking at me, does not dare to ridicule again I am only small Golden Magician, hahahaha......” “不不不,是我,是我。除了你之外,我是第一个知道逻辑的人,亚里士多德最多只是第二个……嗯,你先不要对他说,我要亲口告诉他什么是逻辑,他一定会目瞪口呆,一定会无比敬佩地望着我,不敢再嘲笑我只是个小小的黄金魔法师,哈哈哈哈……” Euclid is saying, while walks back and forth in the reception room like the threatening little crab. 欧几里德一边说着,一边像个张牙舞爪的小螃蟹一样在会客厅里走来走去。 Suye smiles, these Grandmasters really one by one interesting. 苏业莞尔一笑,这些大师真的一个比一个有趣。 Euclid excited good, said: „I did not manage you, I must study this logic, was really wonderful, I do not even want to go to Marathon Plains......, but, to there, I will not leave the big camp even, I have studied this logic, I felt, this logic had a special thing, a truth, can help me pursue the ultimate truth of the world. Too wonderful, too wonderful......” 欧几里德兴奋了好一阵,道:“我不管你了,我要去研究这个逻辑,真是太美妙了,我甚至不想去马拉松平原……不过,就算到了那里,我也不会离开大营,我会一直研究这个逻辑,我感觉,这个逻辑存在一种特别的东西,一种真理,可以帮助我追寻世界的终极真理。太美妙了,太美妙了……” Euclid brandishes the both arms to go out of the reception room. 欧几里德挥舞着双臂走出会客室。 The entrance guard is dumbfounded, a Julius serene appearance. 门口的侍卫目瞪口呆,朱利斯一副风轻云淡的模样。 „What's wrong, hasn't he frightened you? The custom was good.” Julius indifferently said. “怎么,他没吓到你吧？习惯就好了。”朱利斯淡然道。 „Also ok, imagines with me almost.” The Suye smile said. “还行,和我想象中差不多。”苏业微笑道。 „Academy Four Heroes I knew, except for you and Alexander, other three is a lunatic.” Julius said. “学院四杰我都认识,除了你和亚历山大,其他三个都是疯子。”朱利斯道。 „Alexander...... hasn't he defeated Commodus?” Suye asked. “亚历山大……他没有战胜科莫德斯吗？”苏业问。 Julius said: „They have usually compared notes, has not decided the victory and defeat. He only stayed in First Academy was less than a half year, has not caught up with the King of Gladiators competition. However, Commodus has said actually, one-to-one, he has the confidence to defeat Alexander, 100 pairs 100, his both sides can be even. However, if both sides lead ten thousand army to battle, Commodus thought that the oneself bone dregs will not remain.” 朱利斯道:“他们俩平时切磋过,没有分出胜负。他只在第一学院停留了不到半年,没有赶上角斗王大赛。不过,科莫德斯倒是说过,一对一,他有信心战胜亚历山大,一百对一百,他双方能平手。但是,如果双方带领万军作战,科莫德斯觉得自己会连骨头渣都不剩。” „Good, Alexander innate skill is not on battle skill, but strategically. You and should Alexander relations be good?” Suye said. “不错,亚历山大的天赋不在战技上,而在战略上。你和亚历山大的关系应该不错吧？”苏业道。 „Also ok, he is a little quiet, but also the dizzy blood, I cannot take a liking to him.” Julius said. “还行,他有点沉默寡言,还晕血,我瞧不上他。”朱利斯道。 Suye almost rolls the eyes, said: „I took back beforehand all said that your insightful words, most ten years, you will regret your choice. You should not with judging the Gladiator vision, weigh a king.” 苏业差点翻白眼,道:“我收回之前所有说你有眼光的话,最多十年,你会后悔你的选择。你不应该用评判角斗士的眼光,去衡量一位君王。” „Did I x, what you say?” Julius has a big shock. “我x,你说什么？”朱利斯大惊失色。 „Didn't say this, money enough?” Suye asked. “不说这个,钱够了吗？”苏业问。 Julius brings the weeping voice saying: „Suye, Alexander what family background? I really do not know that I only thought that he is one has innate skill warrior strangely, he is not interested in our Gladiator, I flatter from the beginning very for a long time, he looks cold and indifferent, my being disinclined manages him, won't I offend him?” 朱利斯带着哭腔道:“苏业,亚历山大到底什么出身啊？我真不知道啊,我只觉得他是一个古怪有天赋的战士,他对我们角斗士不感兴趣,我一开始巴结很久,他爱理不理,我就懒得理他,我不会得罪他了吧？” Suye pondered some little time, said: „If some day he commands the army to arrive in Sparta, remembers that ahead of time surrenders.” 苏业思考了好一会儿,道:“如果有一天他率军抵达斯巴达,记得提前投诚。” „Do not frighten me......” Julius really to cry. “你别吓我……”朱利斯真要哭了。