„In the future and past was equal” another doubts that brought is, the future is „” has existed. “未来与过去等价”带来的另一个疑惑就是,未来是“已经”存在的。 As far as time is concerned, „in the future” naturally will not have arrived. 从时间上来看,“未来”当然是尚未到来的。 But logically, „in the future” such as „in the past” generally was an entity, that explained that in the future is also an entity of objective existence. 但从逻辑上来看,“未来”如“过去”一般是一个实体,那就说明未来也是客观存在的一个实体。 But the strength of counter succession, then because its special nature, does not need to depend on „in the past” exists. It exists, because, can in the future. 而逆时序之力,则又因为其特殊性质,不需要依托“过去”存在。它存在的因,可以在未来。 This also had king Qi the present view. 这也就有了王崎现在的说法。 Before all can prove say/way „the past future belonged to one”, knowing, has a fruit position to exist in the future. 所有能够证道“过去未来归于一身”的前知者,都有一个果位在未来存在。 But he cultivates the process that holds, with the process that this „fruit position” contacts. 而他修持的过程,就是与这个“果位”相接触的过程。 Sufficiently collects certain condition, can complete with this „fruit position” contact, before becoming, knowing. 凑足一定的条件,就可以完成与这个“果位”的接触,成为前知者。 This process is extremely mystical, the Celestial Great Sage threw the fool course 【Relatively speaking】, Causing no one to know that must collect what condition, „fruit position” and „cultivating” can complete the contact. 只是,这个过程本身太过神秘,天人大圣又扔了个傻瓜教程【相对而言】,导致没有人知道到底要凑齐什么条件,“果位”与“修者”才能完成接触。 The reversal time sequence thinks, perhaps the matter is this. 或者,逆转时间顺序来想一下,没准事情是这样的。 „Fruit position” it is from the future, goes. But at this time, from the past, went to future cultivating, with it in reverse line. “果位”本身是从未来出发,前往过去的。而这个时候,就有一个从过去出发,前往未来的修者,与它逆向而行。 When the two satisfy the controlled condition, will contact mutually. 当二者满足一定条件的时候,就会相互接触。 Then, link of the closed causes and effects produced. It essentially is a knot on causes and effects chain. If not know that unties this knot the method, then this will tie itself not dead. 然后,一个闭合的因果之环就产生了。它本质上是因果链上的一个结。如果不知道解开这个结的方法,那么这个结本身就绝不会死。 Perhaps before the heaven's favoured family of the deceased has not summarized „becomes, necessary and sufficient condition of knowing” , because some essential conditions, must realize by „fruit position”. 或许天眷遗族从来就没有总结出一个“成为前知者的充要条件”,是因为有一些必要条件,必须是由“果位”实现的。 Also can think. 也可以这么想。 „Fruit position” is a traveler/ascetic of counter succession. Just, before „knowing will also stiffen” logic, its life, in counter succession feeble. In the future, it is young, is powerful. “果位”是一个逆时序的行者。只不过,按照“前知者也是会变强”的逻辑来看,它的生命,就是在逆时序中衰弱。越是未来,它就越是年轻,也越是强大。 But the only significance of its life, is completes that „the knot of causes and effects”. 而它生命的唯一意义,就是完成那个“因果之结”。 During because some type „is perhaps dark” the relation may also be some unknown physics mechanism decide, each fruit position corresponded bodies. The individual in that normal succession, more practices, more is close to that „fruit position” terminal. 而由于某种或许“冥冥之中”的联系也有可能是某种未知物理学机制所决定,每一个果位就对应了一个个体。那个正常时序中的个体,越是修行,就越接近那个“果位”的末端。 Therefore, the angle of counter succession, can think. 所以,在逆时序的角度上来看,也可以这么想。 „Fruit position” it is one type „lifeform”. They are the complete counter succession exist. The normal world in their eye, under the counter succession world with ordinary lifeform angle of view are the same. They earnestly seek with a lifeform of normal succession are in one, becomes the causes and effects fast knot, existence that does not refuse stubbornly to extinguish. “果位”本身是一种“生物”。它们是完全的逆时序存在。它们眼中的正常世界,就和普通生物视角之下的逆时序世界一样。它们渴求与一个正常时序的生物合为一体,成为因果的死结,不死不灭的存在。 Just, wants to complete such a „knot”, must complete this knot satisfiedly „sufficient and necessary condition”. Part of essential conditions, are completed by immortal of normal succession. Another part of essential conditions, are completed by „fruit position”. 只不过,想要完成这样一个“结”,就必须满足完成这个结的“充分必要条件”。其中一部分必要条件,由正常时序的长生者完成。另一部分的必要条件,则由“果位”自身完成。 This may also be the heaven's favoured family of the deceased is unable to summarize „necessary and sufficient condition” reason „fruit position” not necessarily be also consistent with „fruit position”, needs „essential condition” also has „individual difference”. 这也有可能是天眷遗族无法总结出“充要条件”的原因“果位”与“果位”也未必一致,所需要的“必要条件”也存在“个体差异”。 But in the past before the future belonged to one all practice, for the condition that to achieve „fruit position” requested. 而过去未来归于一身之前的所有修行,都只是为了达到“果位”所要求的条件而已。 Just, „was still consistent with before the knowing personality”, perhaps „fruit position” this lifeform not self-, personality. 只不过,从“前知者人格仍与之前一致”来看,或许“果位”这种生物没有自我、人格。 However, this is a little „fatalism” flavor. 不过,这还是有一点“宿命论”的味道了。 But according to „everyone has the opportunity becomes about the limit” the theory hypothesis, perhaps will have the infinite fruit position from the future. Most of them „passing away” under the senility of counter succession, could not wait for that with constitute knot of causes and effects immortal. 而根据“人人都有机会成为合道极限”的理论假说来看,或许有无穷的果位从未来出发。只是,它们绝大多数都在逆时序的衰老之下“老死”了,等不到那个可以与自己构成因果之结的长生者。 Because corresponds with them „immortal”, possibly disappeared in this history, possibility that may not practice. 因为与他们所对应的“长生者”,可能在这个历史之中消失了,也有可能没有修炼的可能。 Bigger possibly is...... 更大的可能是…… Individual that they wait for because of giant disaster, but before collecting „essential condition” has fallen from the sky. 它们等待的个体因为巨大的灾难,而在凑齐“必要条件”之前就已经陨落了。 In brief, radically before has not become „, knowing” possibility. 总之,根本就没有成为“前知者”的可能性。 From this angle, goal that immortal practices, seems like works as „fruit position” the personality plug-in unit to be the same simply. 从这个角度来看,长生者修行的目的,简直就好像是去当“果位”的人格插件一样。 Comes to see on two's proportion only...... un un un un, said that „fruit position” is the strength plug-in unit of immortal, is not overrated. 单就二者的比例来看……嗯嗯嗯嗯,说“果位”是长生者的力量插件,也不为过。 After all, everyone's self- personality comes following the succession. 毕竟,大家的自我人格都是顺着时序来的。 Only if, in counter succession, personality, but both sides cannot induce each other. 除非,逆时序上,也有一个人格,只不过双方都感应不到彼此罢了。 This with „” is not equal. 这也就和“没有”等价了。 Process of practicing, is this immortal with „fruit position pairs mutually” the process. 修行的过程,也就是这个长生者与“果位相互配对”的过程。 The mother, such a thinks, process that this universe practices how with being on intimate terms same...... 娘的,这么一想,这个宇宙修行的过程怎么和相亲一样…… king Qi can only be so sigh with emotion. 王崎只能如此感慨。 Moreover, this theory also has some seemingly incredible deduction. 而且,这理论也有一些看似荒诞的推论。 For example, if so, was the powerhouse of that later birth, easier to obtain the fruit position? 比如说,如果是这样的话,那越晚出生的强者,岂不是越容易获得果位？ Because his beginning is quite near the bottom. If „fruit position” this thing were really never the communication recalled in the past, then a later birth, waited for the time of fruit position to be shorter. 因为他的起点比较靠后。如果“果位”这东西真的是从未来往过去回溯,那么越晚出生,等待自己果位的时间就越短。 But this universe as if not this sign. 但这个宇宙似乎并没有这种迹象。 Perhaps before later results in the investigation the heaven's favoured family of the deceased in the past 200000000 years left , the probability of knowing to change? 或许以后得调查调查天眷遗族最近200000000年来出前知者的概率变化？ However, on the other hand, without stipulating one „fruit position” corresponds immortal inevitably? 不过,话说回来,也没有规定一个“果位”就必然对应一个长生者吧？ Overall goes, this universe also has „competes for a card opportunity” the fact. Aren't we of normal succession able the sensation? 从整体上看去,这个宇宙也存在“争夺证道机会”的事实。只是正常时序的我们无从感知？ On the other hand, „fruit position” is this type of thing a non- renewable resource? 话又说回来了,“果位”这种东西是否是个不可再生资源？ If yes, then regarding is currently most likely to realize the now law immortal say/way of superman drastic change repeatedly, was not friendly. 如果“是”的话,那么对于目前最有可能多次实现超人剧变的今法仙道而言,就不大友好了。 But this, truly went beyond now the law immortal knowledge range. 但这一段,也确实太超出今法仙道的知识范围了。 It involved universe end this now law immortal still unable finally the issue that was good to discuss. Perhaps has the relations with the annotation of quantum mechanics. Moreover, the thought that is unable to exercise completely in the normal succession with king Qi pondered. 它涉及到了宇宙终末这个今法仙道尚不能很好讨论的问题。或许与量子力学的诠释有关系。而且,也无法完全用王崎在正常时序中锻炼出的思维来思考。 Perhaps, this issue , before only then, knowing can explain. 或许,这个问题,也就只有前知者能够解答出来。 king Qi looks to the dragon sovereign and monster sovereign. 王崎就看向龙皇与妖皇。 On two big shot faces actually showed...... very subtle expression. 二位大佬脸上却露出了……非常微妙的表情。 【What to do...... I have not thought completely, this view!】 【怎么办……我完全没想过,还有这种看法！】 【This is so-called „logic”? Obviously before is also not, knowing, can actually put forward such many views!】 【这就是所谓的“逻辑”？明明还不是前知者,却能提出这样多的看法！】 【, Too one, do you have such idea on the other hand?】 【话说回来啊,太一,你有这样的想法吗？】 【Everyone same does not come?】 【大家不都一样过来的吗？】 Two powerhouses directly had a conversation even not to need to think in the future or, go study one „to conduct the future of conversation” 【To king Qi, this two is equal】. 两位强者直接在未来进行一番交谈或者说,甚至都不需要动脑子,就读了一个“进行过交谈的未来”【对王崎来说,这二者是等价的】。 But they pass have not pondered from this angle, how also to reply that asked the issue that from this angle? 可他们过去没有从这个角度思考过,又怎么回答从这个角度提出的问题呢？ Finally, experiences „conversation that has not had” after the future, the monster sovereign says to king Qi: „This issue we are very difficult to reply you, because we do not have to ponder like this, in the foreseeable future , will also not ponder like this. Therefore...... this aspect, we truly cannot give you anything to suggest.” 最终,在未来经历过一番“不存在的交谈”之后,妖皇开口对王崎说道:“这个问题我们很难回答你,因为我们没有这样思考过,在可预见的未来里,也不会这样思考。所以……这方面,我们确实不能给你什么建议。” „But, other issue, can reply actually.” The dragon sovereign says: „In the past can be chosen right......, but each to the past choice, will also create to interfere to oneself. We truly can know many different pasts, but memory of this body in material level told the path that we our present memories are we pass through only. I said, you do understand?” “不过,另外的问题,倒是可以回答一下。”龙皇开口说道:“过去是可以被选择没错……但是每一个对过去的选择,对自己也会造成干涉。我们确实可以知道许多种不同的过去,但是这个身躯在物质层面上的记忆却告诉我们我们现在的记忆就是我们唯一经过的道路。我这么说,你明白吗？” king Qi knits the brows: „In other words...... will affect including oneself?” 王崎皱眉:“也就是说……连自己都会影响？” „No, my instinct will tell me, this path is the path that pass through only.” dragon sovereign said: „Is only I also knows, before each history is , the result that knowing gambles repeatedly, the revision of history has repeated to happen innumerable.” “不,我的本能会告诉我,这一条道路就是自己唯一走过的道路。”龙皇说道:“只是我也知道,每一条历史都是前知者反复博弈的结果,历史的修改已经重复发生过无数次。” Because of the mortal body of material level, only experienced this history? 因为物质层面的肉身,只经历了这一条历史？ The counter sequential logic gate is not in the conventional significance „physical existence”? 逆时序逻辑门不是常规意义上的“物质存在”？ Said the counter succession material alone is one kind? 还是说逆时序物质单独算一类？ „Moreover, before being limited knows, after all is limited.” The monster sovereign as if trains innumerable is the same, naturally thread of conversation that received dragon sovereign: „Also I with a relief day of fiendish person battled had said before, our strengths were limited after all. Even if can achieve the approximate fabricated information to gain, still has the limit in your words, is the bandwidth limited. Moreover, we in a time point, can in the strength of material level agitation, is limited.” “另外,有限前知,也终归是有限。”妖皇仿佛演练过无数次一样,自然而然的接过龙皇的话头:“我之前跟救济天魔王交战的时候也说过,我们的力量终归是有限的。就算可以做到近似无中生有的情报获取,也有限制用你的话来说,就是带宽限制。另外,我们在一个时间点上,能够在物质层面搅动的力量,也是有限的。” „Moreover, material level strength, strong to the extreme , can have the perturbation before the knowledge.” “而且,物质层面的力量,强到了极点,也可以对前知之能产生扰动。” dragon sovereign sighed: „Strikes on for example 200 million years ago lonesome Saints......” 龙皇叹息:“就比如两亿年前的寂圣一击……” 200 million years ago, the Celestial family has not even known the Celestial Great Sage has a minute/share of camp or has to guess, but cannot confirm. 两亿年之前,天人眷从甚至都还不知道天人大圣是有分阵营的或者说,有猜测而不能确认。 This explained that no one has the means some „specially” information transmission 200 million years ago. 这就说明,谁都没办法将一些“特殊”的信息传递到两亿年之前。 A lonesome Saint that nearly combustion universe move, probably barrier on a causes and effects, universe division for two completely different time. 寂圣那近乎燃烧宇宙的一招,就好像一个因果上的壁垒,将宇宙划分为了两个完全不同的时代。 After Celestial civil war before and civil war, entirely different, is hard to exchange. 天人内战之前和内战之后,截然不同,难以互通。 Even, the black hole has this ability. 甚至,黑洞都有这个能力。 So long as before one, knowing infiltrates in the event horizon, then, his all causes and effects, all future in event horizon. 只要将一个前知者打入事件视界之中,那么,他所有的因果,所有的未来都在事件视界之内了。 Although king Qiye felt, so long as „escapes from event horizon” this to exist in the future, then first knowing can „in the future” „” in the past return to the files by this in one completely. 虽然王崎也觉得,只要“逃出事件视界”这个未来存在,那么前知者完全就可以凭借这个“未来”在某一个“过去”重新回档。 Therefore...... 所以…… This is „counter sequential logic” and „known physical rule” has no way in the final analysis very good compatible issue. 这归根结底还是“逆时序逻辑”和“已知物理规律”没法很好兼容的问题。 Moreover, if evaporation of black hole, then before falling into, knowing in black hole to have the means to read resurrecting outside? 另外,若是黑洞蒸发,那么陷入黑洞之中的前知者有没有办法在外面读条复活呢？ king Qi has not known now, enters the black hole the information, was destroyed permanently, was recorded in event horizon and above spirit Liwei. 王崎现在还不知道,进入黑洞的信息,到底是被永久破坏,还是被记录在事件视界、灵力维度之上。 Regarding this topic, dragon sovereign actually a little interest. 对于这个话题,龙皇倒是有点兴趣。 This touched the blind spot of his thought actually. He said, this matter can wait to look. If before Yuan clan, knowing has the sign of return, then later can consider that will think means entire one batch that not to evaporate quick black hole. 这倒是触及了他思维的盲区。他表示,这件事可以等等看。如果元族前知者有回归的迹象,那么以后就可以考虑想办法整一批不会蒸发得那么快的黑洞了。 https: https: Talent home station address:. m. 天才本站地址:。m.