WIIC :: Volume #9

#200: In the future position


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„Was your majesty, then, what past in your eye? What is can change, what is unchangeable?” “陛下,那么,您眼中的过去是什么?什么是可以改变,什么是不能改变?” king Qi noticed a very essential point. 王崎注意到了非常关键的一点。 In the past the future belonged to one to have two very explicit iron rules. “过去未来归于一身”有两个非常明确的铁则。 One. In the past was not only, in the future will not be only, now is also not only. 一.过去不唯一,未来不唯一,现在也是不唯一的。 Two. Before the first knowledge can unable to interfere with card instantaneous . 二.前知之能无法干涉到“证道瞬间之前”。 But in fact, these two matters, there is a giant contradiction. 而实际上,这两件事,又有一个巨大的矛盾。 That is...... card say/way this matter. 那就是……“证道”这个事情本身。 If can change in the past, then card say/way this event, was in itself one in the past, was remote past in the future. 如果说过去可以改变,那么“证道”这个事件,本身就是一个“过去”,也是更久远过去的“未来”。 Long ago before past, knowing can through the choice in the future, interfere with this matter. But now before will be future, knowing, can interfere with this matter through the choice in the past. 久远过去的前知者可以通过选择未来,对这件事进行干涉。而现在甚至是未来的前知者,也可以通过选择过去对这件事进行干涉。 No truth said that in any event this individual is doomed in this time card say/way. 没道理说“无论如何这个个体注定会在这个时间点证道”。 This extremely determinism a point. 这就太过决定论了一点。 Even if the world line collects, in the concrete time point would the fluctuation? 就算是世界线收束,具体的时间点上总会有浮动吧? But the chaos theory then indicated, in the macroscopic world, this non-linear matter, is very difficult the definite developing process. 而混沌理论便表示,在宏观的世界里,这种非线性的事情,很难有一个确定的发展过程。 In other words , card say/way this event can be disturbed. 换言之,“证道”这个事件本身就是可以被干扰的。 It can be postponed, naturally, can be ahead of time. 它可以被延后,当然,也可以被提前。 Even before saying one, knowing cannot interfere with anything before card, is unable to make the counter succession cleverness arrive in itself not to have the counter sequential logic gate time, it can still before other hand of knowing handles this matter. 就算说一个前知者自己不能干涉证道之前的任何事情,无法让逆时序灵犀抵达自己还没有逆时序逻辑门的时代,它也可以借助其他前知者的手去办这件事。 So long as before another, knowing was more ancient than him is OK. 只要另一个前知者比他古老就可以了。 This universe, first knowing, although is very rare, but does not have to rarely „, only then a small group degree, does not have too big conflict of interests, thing that may not make concessions. 这个宇宙,前知者虽然很稀有,但也没有稀有到“只有一个小圈子”的程度,彼此之间也没有太大的利益之争,没有不可退让的东西。 Before yi clan that even still has relief day of demon knowing this type devotes to knowing before others ideally. 甚至还存在救济天魔界的蓺族前知者这种“为他人理想而献身的前知者”。 In other words, before two, if knowing cooperates, can certainly achieve ahead of time proves say/way. 换句话说,两个前知者如果合作的话,就一定可以做到“提前证道”。 If before one crowd, knowing helps each other, they even can dominate all history in a causes and effects- naturally, the length is longest is also only 200 million years. 如果一群前知者相互帮助的话,它们甚至可以把持一片因果之中的所有历史-当然,长度最长也只有两亿年。 Although before becoming, knowing, had playing chess skill. 虽说成为了前知者,就有了“下棋”的本事。 However becomes the chess player these step unable to estimate from the board game piece. 但是从棋子成为棋手的这一步根本就无法揣度。 Really has is similar to multi- world annotation the multi- baryon world model? 难道真的存在一个类似于“多世界诠释”的多重子宇宙模型? In perhaps this, contains the big secret of quantum mechanics. 这里面,说不定还蕴含着量子力学的大秘密。 Listened to king Qi the speculation, dragon Huanghuan the body shakes the head: This is truly feasible, but doesn't have the significance?” 听了王崎的猜测,龙皇幻身摇了摇头:“这样确实是可行的,但是没有意义啊?” king Qi stares: Un?” 王崎一愣:“嗯?” What proves several days of evening to prove for several days also to have early to distinguish?” The dragon sovereign somewhat has the doubts. “早证几天晚证几天又有什么区别?”龙皇有些有疑惑。 king Qidao: „Before , but if I become, knowing this, itself had been revised by others, I......” 王崎道:“可若是我成为前知者这一事件,本身就被别人修改过了,那我……” But you in future existence, can become because of, does not have card say/way this matter , before does not affect you becomes, knowing!” dragon sovereign said. “可你在未来的存在,便可成为‘因’,没有‘证道’这件事,也不影响你成为前知者啊!”龙皇如此说道。 But, I create this thing the turning point already...... and other, the logic of normal succession is a little truly insufficient.” king Qi beckons with the hand: No, your majesty, I mean, a card time selects it to be able ahead of time or postpones, that did not show, before many, knowing can recall the time, before letting some or several , card time of knowing is ahead of time infinitely, even to universe at the beginning of?” “可是,我造成这玩意的契机都已经……等一下,正常时序的逻辑确实有点不够用了。”王崎摆摆手:“不,陛下,我的意思是,证道时间点本身可以提前或者延后,那不就证明,多个前知者就可以回溯时间,让某一个或某几个前知者的证道的时间点无限提前,甚至到宇宙之初?” If so, then before is ancient, knowing, more has advantage inevitably- before ancient, knowing can through the choice history, before control the birth of subsequent, knowing. 如果是这样,那么越是古老的前知者,就必然越有优势-古老的前知者可以通过选择历史,来主宰后续前知者的诞生。 But no evidence suggested that this is real. 但没有证据表明这是真的。 Because, a Yuan clan lord is definitely more ancient than the dragon sovereign. But in fact, dragon Huangdiao hit the Yuan clan expert. 因为,元族共主肯定比龙皇古老。但实际上,龙皇吊打了元族高手。 If so, then, king Qi must face another issue. 如果真是这样,那么,王崎又要面对另一个问题。 The future powerhouse, definitely also thinks, will definitely also want to go now. 未来的强者,肯定也会这么想,肯定也会想要前往“现在”。 But in the past the future belonged to a powerhouse, powerhouse who must the present not have with a big pile had to do. 而过去未来归于一身的强者,也就必须和一大堆“现在还不存在的强者”打交道。 But the fact showed, does not have this matter. 可事实证明,并不存在这种事情。 Although in the myth has so-called knowing from birth, „a birth on the mouth shouted that ‚the space world is conceited. But has not presented „a birth is actually the past future belonged to one the actual example. 尽管神话之中存在所谓“生而知之”,“一出生就口喊‘天上天下唯我独尊’”。但却并没有实际出现“一出生就是过去未来归于一身者”的实际例子。 Otherwise, king Qi will at least hear. 不然的话,王崎至少会有所耳闻。 But if is not this...... 可如果不是这样的话…… That also said that what „the past was variable? 那又说什么“过去可变”? Did all pasts were all variable, only have card say/way this fact are being doomed? 难道所有过去皆可变,唯有“证道”这个事实是“注定”? dragon sovereign shakes the head: No, my actually not this meaning. In fact, if before you become, knowing, then before you become , before knowing all sorts of causes and effects, after to become knowing you have not affected. No matter beforehand you how, you have in in the future backup. Therefore, wants through interfering with ‚the history before card affects ‚the individual after card, makes a futile effort.” 龙皇摇了摇头:“不,我倒不是这个意思。实际上,你若是成为前知者,那么你成为前知者之前的种种因果,对成为前知者之后的你都没有影响了。不管是之前的你怎么样,你都有在‘未来’的备份。所以,想要通过干涉‘证道之前的历史’来影响‘证道之后的个体’,都是徒劳无功的。” king Qi knits the brows: May belong to a powerhouse to serve with the influence on a past future, making his personality make change to a certain extent, the standpoint changes, theoretically is feasible?” 王崎皱眉:“可对一个过去未来归于一身的强者施以影响,让他的人格做出某种程度上的变化,以至于立场变化,理论上都是可行的吧?” If this is not feasible, that can only explain a matter- the individual after card, will move toward a being doomed template. 如果这都不可行,那就只能说明一件事-证道之后的个体,就会走向一个注定的模板。 dragon sovereign shakes the head, explains very much has the patience actually: Regarding has proven an individual, ancient or not, occupies the upstream of history, radically immaterial- your person clans have similar view. In the past and future can be equal. This indicated that you truly rely on the wisdom, touched near a point. Yourself ponder, since the past and future will be equal, who also had is going against the necessity of time vacillation like this?” 龙皇摇头,解释得倒是很有耐心:“对于已经证道的个体来说,古老与否,是否占据历史的更上游,根本无关紧要-你们人族也有类似的说法。过去与未来本身就可以等价。这说明你们确实凭借智慧,摸到了一点边了。你自己思考一下,既然过去与未来等价,谁还有这样逆着时间游移的必要呢?” As for interferes with standpoint, that was then a problem. Immortal, at least has certain heart to hold, can for a long time maintain. Although this standpoint can be changed, but this very difficult to realize in a short-term process.” “至于‘干涉立场’,那便更成问题了。一个长生者,至少是有一定的心持,可以长久保持自我的。虽然这种立场可以被改变,但这很难在一个短期过程内实现。” king Qi raises hand: But, your majesty, before knowing, short-term hasn't related for a long time?” 王崎举手:“可是,陛下,对于前知者来说,长期还是短期没关系吧?” Before limited knows, does not look at the distance, does not look at the time, only looks at the causes and effects. 有限前知,不看距离,不看时间,只看因果。 dragon sovereign nods: No mistake.” 龙皇点了点头:“没有错。” Since said related to the cards of body, you should very early be able to foresee, and makes the layout?” king Qi said: This can also be a long-term process.” “那既然涉及一个个体的证道,你们就应该很早就能预见,并且做出布局吧?”王崎说道:“这也可以是一个长期的过程。” Only if you felt before is limited, knowing is unimportant! 除非你觉得一个有限前知者一点也不重要! Relief day of fiendish person that lone ranger truly can disregard other factors, makes refugee radar all counter succession band widths, but Emperor dragon Huangyao is impossible to disregard talent. 救济天魔王那种独行侠确实可以无视其他所有因素,将所有的逆时序带宽做成“难民雷达”,但龙皇妖帝不可能无视“人才”。 As for monster sovereign......, if before renewing the monster clan prospect can leave, knowing, he perhaps can also many several hundred thousand years. 啊,至于妖皇陛下……嗯,要是更新妖族出息得能出前知者了,他说不定还能多挺几十万年咧。 But...... this also is very in fact difficult to accomplish.” The monster sovereign shakes the head, reveals a forced smile: In your words, wants to achieve this point, must know that ‚the card past future will belong to a sufficient and necessary condition, knows that under what condition satisfied situation, jumped out of the river to control itself, certainly can prove the past future to belong to one, before becoming, knowing.” “可实际上……这也很难办到。”妖皇摇摇头,露出一丝苦笑:“用你们的话说,想要做到这一点,就必须知道‘证道过去未来归于一身的充分必要条件’,知道在什么条件被满足的情况之下,跳出长河主宰自身者,一定可以证道过去未来归于一身,成为前知者。” But in fact, does not have this thing.” “可实际上,就没有这个东西。” By person clan member reprimanding for practices the practicing way, I deliberately considered that” was enough. 被人族修士斥之为“古法修行”的修行方式,“俺寻思”就足够了。 If does not have any higher pursue, does this is also indisputable. 如果没有什么更高追求的话,这样做也算无可厚非。 If „, only then before , knowing is intelligent lifeform guess establishment, then I deliberately considered before” can be, knowing standard thinking mode. 如果“只有前知者才算智慧生物”的猜测成立,那么“俺寻思”就能作为前知者标准的思维方式了。 The prior feeling of first knowing can guarantee that is correct! 前知者的先验感觉可以保证是正确的! Even before non-, knowing becomes, knowing, depended is also I deliberately considers. 甚至非前知者成为前知者,靠的也是“俺寻思”。 The Celestial Great Sage pinched the fool merit law, does not need to understand, so long as certain step, before can become, knowing- even the cultivators do not need to understand this process. 天人大圣就是捏了个傻瓜功法,不需要理解,只要到了一定的步骤,就可以成为前知者了-甚至修行者都不需要理解这个过程。 Regarding the monkey, this truly is a luck. 对于猴子来说,这确实是一种幸运。 But regarding the civilization of now law immortal this initiation superman drastic change, this actually a little...... 但对于今法仙道这种引发超人剧变的文明来说,这却就有点…… king Qi ponders the moment: But...... so-called sufficient and necessary condition, is only our person clans is used to deal with the normal succession the thinking pattern? Can first knowing get the answer directly?” 王崎思考片刻:“可是……所谓‘充分必要条件’,也只是我们人族用于应付正常时序的思考方式吧?前知者可以直接得到答案啊?” That but regarding card say/way this event, the first knowledge can be disturbed was too big.” The monster sovereign said: Feeds in this information from the future, in is true knowing gambling before one, but also is not necessarily meaningful.” “可偏偏对于‘证道’这个事件来说,前知之能受到的干扰太大了。”妖皇道:“从未来传回这种情报,就当于与一个真正前知者博弈一番,还未必有意义。” This is alternative refers to issue? According to the theory, the supergraph inspiration of first step was unable completely to solve the halting problem...... 这算是另类的“自我指涉”问题?按照理论,第一阶的超图灵机还不能圆满解决停机问题…… king Qi asked back: „But if you suddenly thought that on before non-, knowing presented the huge perturbation, that explained that he soon the card did say? If the boy and we are not one side, ahead of time got rid of him not on the line?” 王崎反问:“可若是你们突然觉得一个非前知者身上出现了巨大扰动,那就说明他快要证道了吧?如果那小子和咱们不是一边的,提前干掉他不就行了?” No, is not this truth.” dragon sovereign shakes the head: Before you become knowing, before you become, fact of knowing, before other knowing, does not seem to exist same- until now is this. I don't know either, this is the result that above the time gambles, is the first knowledge can limit.” “不,不是这个道理。”龙皇摇头:“在你成为前知者之前,你成为前知者的事实,对于其他前知者来说,就好像不存在一样-至今都是这样。我也不知道,这是时间之上博弈的结果,还是前知之能本身的限制。” The instance that only then the counter sequential logic gate presents truly, can be felt. 只有逆时序逻辑门真正出现的瞬间,才能被感觉到。 This is dragon sovereign the meaning. 这就是龙皇的意思。 But on the other hand, before card, knowing, is unable to initiate the entire universe to be able the observed phenomenon. 而另一方面,证得前知者,也无法引发整个宇宙都能观测到的异象。 In fact, jumped out of the river to control itself and „the past future belongs to one the breakthroughs of these two boundaries, the phenomenon belongs is quite small. If the immortal is high to own merit body control enough, will not have any phenomenon. 实际上,“跳出长河主宰自身”和“过去未来归于一身”这两个境界的突破,异象都属于比较小的。如果仙人对自身功体掌控够高,甚至不会有任何异象。 This universe also was really big. 这个宇宙也实在是太大了。 Even if first knowing can traversal the entire universe on the causes and effects, their strengths are unable to trigger shaking of entire universe in the material level. 就算前知者能够在因果上遍历整个宇宙,他们的力量也无法在物质层面引发全宇宙的撼动。 The influence that or card say/way this event has, will be dispersed to the entire history. 或者说,“证道”这个事件本身造成的影响,会被分散到整个历史当中。 That moment that because the counter sequential logic gate is born, in the past the future is a body. From being born end, can be regarded as same instantaneous. 因为逆时序逻辑门诞生的那一刻,过去未来就已经是一体了。自诞生到终结,都可以视作是“同一瞬间”。 Even if really has phenomenon, does not only exist in one time point on. 就算真的存在“异象”,也不是只存在于一个“时间点”上的。 But like this explained, king Qi is somewhat irritable. 但这样解释,王崎还是有些别扭。 This said before...... each, knowing has the past future belonged to one ’ the fruit position in the future ‚, this fruit position had determined, process that then cultivated, but looked that you can integrate in this fruit position?” “这岂不是说……每一个前知者在未来都有一个‘过去未来归于一身’的果位,这个果位已经确定,然后修炼的过程,只是看你能不能融入这个果位之中?”
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