Stands regarding Turing honorable person's first, king Qi is not surprised. 对于图灵真人第一个站起来,王崎丝毫不感到意外。 Because, on Earth, writes «by May Calculate Number And Application the scholar in Determination Issue», the name is the isotopic form of Alan Turing Turing honorable person. 因为,在地球上,写出《论可计算数及其在判定问题上的应用》的学者,名字叫做阿兰・图灵图灵真人的同位体。 king Qi believes that even oneself do not publish this paper, then this free and unfettered member will still publish the similar paper 35 years later. 王崎相信,即使自己不发表这一篇论文,那么这位逍遥修士也会在三五年之后发表出相似的论文。 Naturally, king Qi did not feel own this is plagiarizing also is very in fact difficult to limit this situation. Although the history of two world have certain similarity, but Turing honorable person after all is not that Alan Turing. In this world historical, Turing honorable person has not burst out the inspiration to solve this determination problem. 当然,王崎并不觉得自己这样算是剽窃实际上也很难界定这种情况。两个世界的历史虽然存在一定的相似之处,但是图灵真人毕竟不是那个阿兰・图灵。在这个世界的历史上,图灵真人并没有迸发出灵感来解决这个判定性问题。 Moreover king Qi ancestors as a physicist, does not have to carry the undecidability paper bored. That paper, is king Qi infers to complete independently, overwhelming majority are king Qi oneself original content. 而且王崎上辈子作为一个物理学家,也没有无聊到将不可判定性的论文背下来。那一篇论文,是王崎自己独立推导完成的,绝大部分都是王崎自己的原创内容。 Even so, king Qi as before to Turing honorable person respectful ritual: „ It is not at all. Without me, the honorable person in 35 years, can extract this single layer truth. 但即便是如此,王崎依旧对图灵真人恭敬一礼:“不敢当。若是没有我,真人再过三五年,亦是能够求出这一重道理。 Turing beckons with the hand: „This may not necessarily. I truly am the idea in a little this aspect, but my temper is sloppy, either kills the time in ten thousand immortal illusion, either shakes in the Chinese hibiscus idly, on concentrating on was inferior to many fellow daoist actually. To me, you saved my several years hard labor! Moreover this cannot determine one, ten thousand immortal illusion issues logically can circle the solution. Gives me again one year...... not to mostly the year. I can make ten thousand immortal illusion renew one generation again!” 图灵摆摆手:“这可就未必了。我确实是有一点这方面的想法,不过我这个人性子散漫,要么在万仙幻境里消磨时间,要么在扶桑闲晃,在专注上倒是不如诸多道友了。对我来说,你这是省了我数年的苦工啊！而且这不可判定一处,万仙幻境很多在逻辑上的问题就可以绕解决了。再给我一年……不至多半年。我就可以让万仙幻境再更新一代！” Calculates, always establishes above the logic. 算器,始终是建立在逻辑之上的。 Is incomplete, cannot determine, is the major breakthroughs of operation logic domain. 不完备,不可判定,都是算理逻辑领域的重大突破。 Such breakthrough, how also to possibly drive calculates the development? 这样的突破,又怎么可能会不带动算器的发展？ But calculates what the development does mean? The comprehensive upgrades of ten thousand immortal illusion! 而算器的发展意味着什么？万仙幻境的全面升级！ Ten thousand immortal illusion. Is the immortal pledge at present one of the biggest depending on. It can be said that if the immortal pledge can revolve to have, these ten thousand immortal illusion have lasting achievements. 万仙幻境。乃是仙盟目前最大的倚仗之一。可以说,若大仙盟之所以能够运转有度,这万仙幻境功不可没。 It can be said that this absolutely is the recent dozens years, one of the practical significance biggest theories. 可以说,这绝对是最近几十年,实际意义最大的理论之一。 It even may open a time! 它甚至有可能开启一个时代！ Calculates that Monarch expression is somewhat resentful. He felt, oneself just said king Qi the theory hundred do not have uses, result here person commended loudly. This really does not give him very much the face. Just. He in calculating is also quite interested. Also no one is instead daring to laugh at him not to know to shame here, therefore he crosses the crowd simply, asked Turing honorable person to discuss directly. 算君表情有些悻悻。他觉得,自己刚刚才说王崎的理论百无一用,结果这边的人就大声称赞。这实在是很不给他面子。只不过。他对算器也是颇为感兴趣的。反正在这里也没人敢笑他不知羞,于是他干脆越过人群,直接找图灵真人讨论起来了。 He not does not understand the set theory, is only the opposition the set theory as the foundation of arithmetic, makes the word game the set theory repugnantly. Regarding calculating, him likes very much. 他并非不懂集合论,只是反对将集合论作为算学的根基,讨厌将集合论做成文字游戏。对于算器,他还是很喜欢的。 But more people, project the vision to king Qi on. 而更多的人,则将目光投射到王崎身上。 „.” “啪啪啪。” After the first applause resounds . Has second and third...... more and more free and unfettered member to start to applaud. The scattered applause gradually links up into a single stretch. 第一道掌声响起之后。才有第二道、第三道……越来越多的逍遥修士开始鼓掌。稀稀落落的掌声逐渐连成一片。 Just like Feng Luoyi said that no matter they did acknowledge, the history of arithmetic, opened the new page. 正如冯落衣所说,不管他们承不承认,算学的历史,又翻开了新的一页。 This is unable to decide Sun like their wills whether comes out from the east side. 这就像他们的意志无法决定太阳是否从东面出来一样。 The arithmetic, entered a new time. 算学,进入了一个新的时代。 Time that is similar to the physical domain indistinct say/way. 一个类似于物理领域缥缈之道的时代。 In an numerous free applause, king Qi turned back oneself seat. At this time, he heard Feng Luoyi passes message. 在一众逍遥的掌声当中,王崎走回了自己的座位。这时,他听到了冯落衣的传音。 „Does well.” “做得不错。” In addition, has no other words again. Feng Luoyi will truly not speak very much. 除此之外,再没有什么别的话语。冯落衣确实不是很会说话。 king Qi nods, grips some hands of shivering. 王崎点点头,握住有些颤抖的手。 At this time, he was deeply moved. 这个时候,他激动得说不出话来。 The conclusion of paper truly is not his. However. The process is his king Qi obtains independently, the inspiration is also his own. How can I say? This paper is not his biological son, at least should also be brings up a son? 论文的结论确实不是他的。但是。过程是他王崎独立求得的,灵感也是他自己的。怎么说呢？这一篇论文不是他的亲生儿子,至少也应该算养子吧？ Although had long known the historical situation of undecidability theorem, but does he hold true is not excited? 尽管早就知道了不可判定性定理的历史地位,但是他有什么理由不激动吗？ Even is only „testimony”, is still worth singing with gusto three days! 就算单为“见证”,也值得狂歌三日！ „I have not expected, you can achieve this step. Second asked that tenth asked that...... the present ten thousand methods some people will not suspect you cannot tread the broken day to close, the Nirvana tribulation could not baffle you most likely. Now. Everyone guessed on the wisdom, you need to become enlightened the free and unfettered with how long.” “我也没有料到,你能做到这一步。第二问、第十问……现在万法门已经不会有人怀疑你不能踏破天关了,涅槃劫十有八九也难不倒你。现在。大家就智慧猜测,你需要用多久成道逍遥了。” „Teacher erroneous approves......” “老师谬赞……” „This is not praising you.” Feng Luoyi shakes the head to smile: „After this time small will end, you are the operation logic's first person that deserves, in the peer, some people will not be stronger than you. Even if ‚senior’, feared that is still few can before you say person of high skill naturally, this cannot become you to despise the reason of senior!” “这可不是在夸你。”冯落衣摇头笑了笑:“这次小会结束之后,你就会是当之无愧的算理逻辑第一人,同辈之中,不会有人比你更强。就算是‘前辈’里面,怕是也没几个能在你面前称高人了当然,这不能成为你蔑视前辈的理由！” „Yes.” king Qi nods, but also is a little dizzy. “是。”王崎点点头,还有点晕。 „Later, has anything to plan, you frank and upright turning in prospectus was good. So long as does not violate the principled issue, the immortal pledge will support you. To make anything, does!” “以后,有什么计划,你就正大光明的交上计划书就好了。只要是不违背原则性的问题,仙盟都会支持你。想要做什么,就去做吧！” These words, making king Qi return to the reality. His two eyes shone to say so many, finally had the substantive thing. 这一句话,让王崎回到现实。他两眼放光说了这么多,终于有实质性的东西了。 „Then...... the ban of day spirit range we are......” “那么……天灵岭的禁令咱是不是……” „This is only impossible.” Feng Luoyi flatly refuses: „Not thinks about it.” “唯独这个不可能。”冯落衣一口回绝:“想都别想。” king Qi the face breaks down immediately: „Added the support a moment ago......” 王崎的脸立刻就垮了下来:“刚才还说支持啊……” „This is not the minor matter. You obtain the affirmations of my ten thousand methods now, but that matter, mainly returning to heaven spirit range manages.” Feng Luoyi coughed two: „But, do not worry that anything amends the law the issue. So long as you can walk the normal procedure/program, some people will naturally help you amend the law to promote. The immortal pledge will also let open the special team to study.” “这可不是什么小事。你现在只是得到了我万法门的肯定,但是那一块的事情,主要还是归天灵岭管的。”冯落衣咳了两声:“不过,你也不要担心什么修法的问题。只要你能够走完正常的程序,自然就会有人帮助你将修法推广开去。仙盟也会让开设专门的项目组进行研究。” king Qichang one breath. The digitization amends the law to concern his road of Yuan god. Dimension, king Qi has no alternative but to care. 王崎长舒一口气。数据化修法关乎到他的元神之路。维度这一条,王崎不能不关心。 But has, because the digitization amends the law is the path that king Qizi operates, as this improvement that amends the law, various experiments cannot avoid. 而有由于数据化修法是王崎自开的道路,随着这门修法的完善,各种实验是免不了的。 Feng Luoyi these words, quite therefore freed king Qi extra worries. 冯落衣这句话,就相当于是解除了王崎的后顾之忧。 „Ok, nothing words, you can leave.” Feng Luoyi then discovered, this time conference is irrelevant. “好了,没有什么事的话,你就可以离开了。”冯落衣这才发现,这次的会议早已经离题万里。 They are discussed how to preserve to calculate Lord life, is not the public lecture that listens to king Qi. 他们是来讨论如何保住算主性命的,不是来听王崎的报告会的。 Now but...... calculates that Lord danger, probably instead was bigger a point. 可是现在……算主的生命危险,好像反而更大了一点。 If king Qi is incomplete is equivalent to is calculating that the lord filled a crane to withstand/top red, that cannot determine supplements two jin (0.5 kg) white arsenic again. Calculates the grand plan great undertaking that Lord proposed long ago, he for the ideal of it struggle half a lifetime, had been destroyed cleanly by king Qi two operations. 如果说王崎的不完备相当于对着算主灌了一剂鹤顶红,那不可判定就是再追加两斤砒霜。算主早些年提出的宏图大业、他为之奋斗半生的理想,已经被王崎两道算理破坏得干干净净。 Wants here, Feng Luoyi thought that the head hurt three points. 想要这里,冯落衣觉得脑袋又疼了三分。 However, who lets them is arithmetic? Facing such highest good, do they have the truth that does not listen to? 不过,谁让他们都是算学家呢？面对那样的至理,他们有不听的道理吗？ Thinks of here, he smiled bitterly was supplementing one: „Today's matter, must keep secret ten million/countless, cannot raise to anybody. Until I permitted. Understood?” 想到这里,他苦笑着追加了一句:“今天的事情,千万要保密,不可对任何人提起。直到我许可了。明白吗？” king Qi nods, a face is sincere. 王崎点点头,一脸诚恳。 Why does not know, making Von fall the clothes not to feel relieved on the contrary. 不知为什么,让冯落衣反倒是更不放心了。 king Qi does not know the Feng Luoyi present thoughts. He stands up, is thinking many seniors considered a crime, then left this illusion. 王崎并不知晓冯落衣现在的心思。他站起身,想着诸多前辈告了个罪,然后离开了这一处幻境。 The discussion sound in illusion is still intense. Song courtyard faction most core rambles and calculates that the Lord most hardcore supporter, joined during the discussion. 幻境之中的讨论声依旧激烈。就连歌庭派最核心的逍遥、算主最铁杆的支持者,都加入了讨论之中。 No one is willing to fall behind. 没有人愿意落后。 After noticing this to change generally, Feng Luoyi smiles. 注意到这一般变化后,冯落衣笑了笑。 On the other hand, king Qi ejected at this time „cannot determine”, had the advantage. At least, it thoroughly destroyed these song courtyards to send insistence of free and unfettered overhaul, crushed their dozens years and intention of several hundred years of dependence, making them be able officially this breakthrough. 话又说回来,王崎在这个时候抛出“不可判定”,也不是没有好处的。至少,它彻底摧毁了那些歌庭派逍遥大修的坚持,粉碎了他们几十年、几百年依赖的心念,让他们能够正式这一次突破。 Without „cannot determine theorem”, perhaps these free and unfettered member, „determination proof” as the final straw, will also hold stubbornly do not put, even hopes that can discover with the thing that is incomplete contradicts, refutes king Qi. 如果没有“不可判定定理”的话,那些逍遥修士,说不定还会将“判定性证明”作为最后的稻草,死死抓住不放,甚至希望能够从中找出和不完备相悖的东西,去反驳王崎。 Naturally, this also has the possibility. Feng Luoyi, Turing honorable person these get rid of the knowledge to see the barrier earliest the talent, actually judged the result of determination proof faintly. If king Qi has not published the undecidability theorem today, they have the opportunity to do after a period of time. 当然,这也只是有可能罢了。冯落衣、图灵真人这些最早摆脱过去知见障的天才,其实都隐隐判断出判定性证明的结果了。如果王崎没有在今天发表不可判定性定理的话,他们过一段时间也有机会做出来。 However, these free and unfettered member „struggling”, will only make Von fall the clothes to feel troublesome, thinks that the lots are not good to display, but may also let calculate that the lord peeps the clue. 但是,这些逍遥修士的“挣扎”,只会让冯落衣觉得麻烦,认为有很多东西不好施展,还有可能让算主窥出端倪。 Now king Qi face this point read wants not to leave them, happen. 现在王崎脸这一点念想都不留给他们了,正好。 Thinks of here, Feng Luoyi made noise, stopped many free and unfettered member's discussions, said: „, Stops. We returned to our subjects.” 想到这里,冯落衣出声,止住了诸多逍遥修士的讨论,道:“诸位,停一下。我们还是回到我们的主题上来好了。” Besides calculating Monarch, the discussion of many free and unfettered member automatic stop, originally, calculates that Monarch Pang Jia has not paid attention to Feng Luoyi meaning. Turing honorable person but who discussed with him has stopped the topic, he alone cannot say, was forced to give up. 除了算君之外,众多逍遥修士都自动的停止的讨论,本来,算君庞家莱并没有理会冯落衣的意思。只不过和他讨论的图灵真人已经止住了话题,他一个人也说不起来,只好作罢。 Feng Luoyi observes the situation all around, said seriously: „Now, which fellow daoist, hasn't been possible the principle of determination to have the question to the incomplete principle?” 冯落衣环视四周,严肃道:“现在,还有哪一位道友对不完备之理、不可判定之理有疑问的？” Eck this type ideologically thoroughest shakes the head to the sects, said: „Shocking rare talent, I took.” 就连艾克蛮这种思想上最彻底的离宗都摇了摇头,道:“惊世奇才,我服了。” „, Regarding my beforehand opinion, didn't have the objection again?” “那么,诸位对于我之前的意见,再也没有异议了吧？” Feng Luoyi suggested, through their these member of song courtyard faction most core, gradually changes the thought that the entire song courtyard sends, makes an environment of ponder, calculates Lord guides in some direction. 冯落衣原本的建议,就是通过他们这些歌庭派最核心的修士,去逐渐改变整个歌庭派的思想,制造一种思考的环境,将算主往某个方向上引导。 This „environment of ponder”, best let the free and unfettered member who all song courtyards send, before king Qi for several years path vanguard that delimits, through being similar in unrestricted induction and so on method, proved the completeness that some axiom-systems, lets calculate the lord sees the hope, making him understand, even if the arithmetic has the incompleteness, in the middle of the axiomatics continuously, remains completely. 这个“思考的环境”,最好就是让所有歌庭派的逍遥修士,顺着王崎数年前划下的道路前行,通过类似于超限归纳法之类的方法,证明一些公理系统的完备性,让算主看到希望,让他明白,即使算学具有不完备性,一直的公理体系当中,依旧存在完备的。 Thus, is smaller to his impact. 这样子,对他的冲击更小。 Originally, Feng Luoyi also worried that these song courtyard Pethrus are unruly, is not willing to accept this mentality. However, king Qi the second paper, eliminated this possibility. 原本,冯落衣还担心那些歌庭派修士桀骜不驯,不肯接受这个思路。不过,王崎的第二篇论文,算是打消了这个可能性。 „After finishing talking to calculate that Lord matter, we discussed again the matter of immortal pledge was good.” Matter that in deciding after not completely, cannot be determined, Feng Luoyi tone sudden revolution: „, 53 rd exiles the immortal, was confirmed.”( To be continued ~ ~) “在谈完算主的事情之后,我们再来谈一谈仙盟的事情好了。”在商定了关于不完备、不可判定的事情之后,冯落衣语气突然一转:“诸位,第五十三个谪仙,被确认了。”(未完待续~~) ps: Second, asked the monthly ticket! The mobile phone user please visit http://m.piaotian.net ps:第二更,求月票！手机用户请访问http://m.piaotian.net