TGITR :: Volume #1

#87: Balanced argument


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Official site: 官网: Today has the heavy snow occasionally, the surface temperature drops to 0 degrees, Winter is Coming expansion pack comes to an end, to emit extra 10 Testing Qualification especially, the feedback in the young player who in the official site waits to persist in punching the clock painstakingly for a long time.】 【今日偶降大雪,地表气温下降至0度,“凛冬将至资料片接近尾声,特放出额外十个封测资格,回馈在官网上苦等许久坚持打卡的小玩家。】 Other, the temperature is then cold, everyone remembers that adds clothing.】 【另外,气温便寒,大家记得添衣喔。】 Today the edition serial number was still Alpha0.4. 今日版本编号仍然是Alpha0.4。 In the announcement of official site had not mentioned as before any news about Alpha0.5 edition, only has one about weather system the announcement of test. 官网的公告里依旧没有提到任何关于Alpha0.5版本的消息,只有一条关于“天气系统”测试情况的公告。 However, content that today at the forum the netizens discuss, actually rare and announcement of plan team does not have a wee bit relations. 不过,今天论坛上网友们讨论的内容,却罕见的和策划团队的公告没有一丁点儿关系。 Almost all topic and trough point, centralized in the game of Lifestyle Player in enhancement. 几乎所有的话题和槽点,都集中在了生活职业玩家的游戏内增强上。 Vinevine: Wife wife was odd! First is 2000 silvers, is 5000 silvers! Plan greatly quickly coming out manages manages your family's NPC! QAQ 藤藤:“太太太太离谱了!先是2000银,又是5000银!策划大大快出来管管你家的NPC吧!QAQ” Toilet Really Has Mosquitoes: I, no matter, behind-the-scenes plotting! Only if gives me also to pay out money! The goblin industry needs the subsidy!()” WC真有蚊子:“我不管,黑幕!除非给我也发钱!地精工业需要补贴!()” Kill The Chicken At Midnight: Power-Type needs to strengthen! The axe cuts the motionless crab crab shell is not unreasonable!(-)” 午夜杀鸡:“力量系需要增强!斧子砍不动螃蟹壳就不合理!(-)” Big Eye In Debt: „The Intelligence-Type player protested! Strongly requests the weapon store to increase UAV and float artillery!()” 负债大眼:“智力系玩家抗议!强烈要求武器商店增加无人机、浮游炮!()” Makka Hillbilly: Farms! I must farm!” 玛卡巴子:“种田!我要种田!” Less Bullshit: Cares about the fishing man on no one? 500 contribution points were also too sore! QAQ 少扯犊子:“就没人关心钓鱼佬吗?500贡献点也太疼了!QAQ” Yaya: Ha, spicy chicken! Fishing can die, weak chicken! *?” 鸦鸦:“哈哈哈哈哈,辣鸡!钓鱼都能死,弱鸡!*?” The players opinion on official site is very big, quick overturned the heavens noisily. 官网上的玩家们意见很大,都快吵翻天了。 Actually thinks is also, what the game is most important is what? 其实想想也是,游戏最重要的是什么? Naturally is the balanced state! 当然是平衡性! In the reality can the selectivity neglect the gap between rich and poor, but in the game is not good! Everyone is the same liver, are you so why happy? 现实里可以选择性忽略贫富差距,但游戏里不行啊!大家都是一样的肝,凭什么你们这么爽? Is unreasonable. 不合理。 This is unreasonable! 这太不合理了! Especially the outpost less than two drill grounds are so big, calculate that not necessarily has 20 mu, one brickyard 15 mu, were equivalent unexpectedly had a base in addition. 尤其是前哨基地才不到两个操场那么大,算下来都不一定有20亩,一个砖厂居然有15亩,相当于另起了一个分基地。 Even if the player only has 20 control, still a little affected the balanced state. 就算玩家只有20控制权,也有点儿影响平衡性了。 How saying that below 5 is also quite reasonable! 怎么说也得在五以下才比较合理! Naturally, there are to pursue another level rational player, for example has quarrelled must develop free trade Canyon Fleeing From Mole of system. 当然,也有追求另一种层面合理性的玩家,比如一直吵着要开发“自由贸易”系统的峡谷在逃鼹鼠 This fellow opened a post specially, analyzed a wave of rationality rationally. 这家伙专门开了一个帖子,理性地分析了一波这其中的合理性。 Actually does not have is so exaggerating, a good economic cycle system that you think regarding a game of pursue detail must. Has heard «albion»? Although is MMORPG, but inside economic system does is very splendid, in the game all equipment are produce by the player, basically your occupation is put on anything to decide by you.” “其实也没你们想的那么夸张,一个良好的经济循环体系对于一款追求细节的游戏来说是必须的。听说过《albion》吗?虽然是MMORPG,但里面的经济系统就做的很出色,游戏中所有装备都是由玩家生产,基本上你的职业就由你‘穿什么’来决定。” Inside most lets my impression profound design is, the city economy in game is independent, although there is an auction market to trade, but does not circulate on own initiative. The players can buy the shop front, opens the workshop, oneself hit the equipment, or rents to the player to charge the handling charge. The equipment of production not only can auction to the player, but can also sell to the black market.” “里面最让我印象深刻的设计就是,游戏内的城市互相之间经济是独立的,虽然有拍卖场可以交易,但不主动流通。玩家可以买下店面,开设工坊,自己打装备,或者租给玩家收取手续费。生产的装备不但能拍卖给玩家,还能卖给黑市。” Most draws the attention of everyone is the black market, will sell the equipment of black market to be bought by monster, will become the players to strike to kill the monster the spoils of war. If equips no one to sell, the black market will raise its price in certain limit, induces the player to produce.” “其中最让人眼前一亮的就是黑市,卖到黑市的装备会被‘怪物’买走,成为玩家们击杀怪物的战利品。而如果一件装备没有人卖,黑市就会在一定限度内提高它的价格,诱导玩家去生产。” Obviously Wasteland Online is also building similar economic system, but according to my observation, the Wasteland Online economic system will be close to the reality. Does not know that you discover not to have, the different NPC footholds, the currency of use is actually different! Therefore the trade mostly is barter!” “显然废土OL也在打造类似的经济系统,不过根据我的观察,废土OL的经济系统会更加接近于现实。不知道你们发现没,不同的NPC据点,使用的货币其实是不同的!所以贸易大多是以物易物!” Later will perhaps present the setting of exchange rate, but such system will be complex, even is close to chaotic system, making in the game the change of economical related value tend to is uncertain, does not know that CPU of server can shoulder!” “后期说不定会出现汇率的设定,不过这样系统会非常复杂,甚至接近于‘混沌系统’,让游戏内经济相关数值的变动趋向于不可预测,也不知道服务器的CPU扛不扛得住!” „Regardless how saying that being bold in making innovations is a good deed, to a boldness to praise of manufacture group!” “无论怎么说,勇于创新是一件好事,给制作组的魄力点个赞!” Chu Guang read actually his post, should profit from the place or the old rule takes a note, did this note record Alpha0.5 not to come out? 楚光倒是把他的帖子看完了,该借鉴一下的地方还是老规矩记个笔记,这笔记记多了Alpha0.5不就出来了? However, can the server shoulder not to know, this post sends also few minutes, some small steel bar the bar has come. 不过,服务器扛不扛得住不知道,这帖子发出来还没几分钟,某个小钢筋已经杠过来了。 Professor Yang The Lightning Yama: Hehe, without that game that playing you have said that but my viewpoint that making the player excessively meddle should by NPC the dry/does matter be a faulty stroke in handwriting! The places of some people have the rivers and lakes, forever where you cannot guess correctly the bottom line of players! If I that brickyard plant manager, I did not sell to the NPC warehouse, then raises the brick price, you like buying!” 雷电法王杨教授:“呵呵,没玩过你说的那个游戏,但我的观点还是那个,让玩家过度插手本该由NPC去干的事儿就是个败笔!有人的地方就有江湖,你永远猜不到玩家们的底线在哪里!我要是那个砖厂厂长,我就不卖给NPC仓库,然后抬高砖头价格,你们爱买不买!” Un. 嗯。 This truly is an issue, but this issue only possibly emerges in the later edition, is impossible to appear immediately. 这确实是个问题,不过这个问题只可能出现在以后的版本,不可能出现在当下。 This cloud player possibly forgot, once accepted Hidden Mission, means that ceded 80 control to NPC. 这位云玩家可能是忘了,一旦接受了隐藏任务,就意味着向“NPC”让出了80的控制权。 The operation does not have the issue well, but you , to drive up the price to carry out the hungry sale? 好好经营没问题,但你要是想哄抬物价搞饥饿销售? You looked that NPC did do you not to finish up. 你看NPC搞不搞你不就完事儿了。 Method that in the game can choose, may many be too more than reality. 游戏里可以选的方法,可比现实里多太多了。 However the mentality of this young player, is Chu Guang reminds, can believe the ability of players, but can never overestimate their bottom line, cannot give up using the rule to their restraints. 不过这位小玩家的思路,也算是个楚光提了个醒,可以相信玩家们的能力,但永远不能高估他们的底线,更不能放弃利用规则对他们的约束。 Even if oneself will raise the ownership percentage of players in the future, will not let them over 50. 就算自己日后上调玩家们的持股比例,也不会让他们超过50。 Simultaneously must keep in stock the establishment to level the warning line. 同时还得给库存设置平仓警戒线。 Once the stock achieves to level the warning line, the autotrigger equilibrium mechanism, you pinch in the hand do not want to sell, must call the bone to sell half me. 一旦库存达到平仓警戒线,自动触发平衡机制,你就是捏在手上不想卖,也得给我打骨卖一半。 What, do you want to shut down? Restricts production? Studies Boston people that wrap/sets to throw in the water the brick? 什么,你想停工?限产?学波士顿人民那套把砖头扔水里? Hehe, the order of NPC warehouse non-stop, you suspend production to try, the penalty falls the stockholder's rights Time limit mission Do you do. 呵呵,NPC仓库的订单不停,你停产试试,惩罚是降股权的【限时任务】你做不做吧。 Always has the means to govern these cleverness in trivial matters. 总有办法治这些小聪明。 This Professor Yang does not know, his theory has made some NPC write two in the small book much, but the normal person does not think probably, NPC in game can stroll the official site forum unexpectedly. 这位杨教授并不知道,他的理论已经让某个NPC在小本本上多写了两笔,不过正常人大概也不会想到,游戏里的NPC竟然能逛官网论坛。 At this time, the Workhorse Squad person came out. 这时候,牛马小队的人出来了。 Is Long: „, Clarifies issue that Professor Yang asked that first you cannot regard a whole player community. Like eating the chicken, some people opens hangs , do some people persist in maintaining the game environment are not? Others I cannot manage, but our Workhorse Squad has the moral integrity, will not drive up in the game dry/does price matter, now, later, everyone please do not feel relieved.” 方长:“咳咳,澄清一下杨教授提出的问题,首先你不能把玩家这个群体当成一个整体。就像吃鸡,有人开挂,也有人坚持维护游戏环境不是?别人我管不着,但我们牛马小队还是有节操的,不会干哄抬游戏内物价这种事情,现在不会,以后也不会,大家请放心哈。” Moreover, we actually are also work, the brickyard 80 stocks are the vault collectives, we only have 20. To be honest, this is a bit like a hot sweet potato, the paid return and income are not proportional, without you thinks is so good.” “另外,我们其实也是打工的,砖厂80的股份都是避难所集体的呢,我们只有20。说实话,这有点像是个烫手的山芋,付出的回报和收入不成正比,没你们想的那么好。” He does not want to clarify actually, but the dear readers online discussion is so intense, for fear that the plan puts out a hand to interfere with the game, cut to the income of baking bricks head directly. 他倒是不想澄清,不过看官网上讨论这么激烈,生怕策划伸手干涉游戏,直接给烧砖头的收益砍了。 The original 20 stocks were low enough, cuts an income of blade baking bricks head again, must eat the earth directly. 本来20的股份就够低了,再砍一刀烧砖头的收益,直接得吃土了。 In brief first sells wave of miserable! 总之先卖一波惨! Canyon Fleeing From Mole: You sufficed! Gives me! Does not want to do to me does!( Goes wild)” 峡谷在逃鼹鼠:“你够了!给我!不想干给我干!(抓狂)” Is Long: „.” 方长:“咳。” Professor Yang The Lightning Yama: Hehe, will you say cannot? Moreover 20 stocks, was the player in fact operating? I was still those words, you are unable to underestimate a moral bottom line of player forever, forever some people will find the way to take advantage of loopholes!” 雷电法王杨教授:“呵呵,你说不会就不会?而且20的股份咋了,实际上还是玩家在经营吧?我仍然是那句话,你永远无法低估一个玩家的道德底线,永远会有人想办法钻空子!” For example, I can discard part of stocks intentionally, said the burn failure, actually does something secretly actually, to be below the market quotation price player who through the third party player sold to the demand massively, this not only goes round the NPC warehouse, but also went round the limit of enterprise account! You understand my meaning, even in the account is the loss, the player can still gain steadily brushes money! Moreover directly enters the money of pocket!( Self-satisfied)” “比如,我可以故意丢掉一部分库存,就说烧制失败,实际却暗度陈仓,通过第三方玩家以低于市场行情的价格大量卖给有需求的玩家,这样不但绕开NPC的仓库,还绕开了企业账户的限制!你懂我意思吧,即便账面上是亏损的,玩家仍然可以稳赚刷钱!而且还是直接进入口袋的钱!(得意)” Chu Guang saw that this post was startled. 楚光看到这帖子都惊了。 fuck. 卧槽 This brother study understood the criminal law! 兄嘚是把刑法给学明白了啊! Toilet Really Has Mosquitoes: My goodness, puts in the reality to shoot dead the start.” WC真有蚊子:“好家伙,搁现实里枪毙起步。” Scrambled Eggs With Tomatoes: I looked that returns the punishment compared with Mosquito!( Grins)” 西红柿炒蛋:“我看比蚊子还刑!(龇牙)” Toilet Really Has Mosquitoes: „? Has any relations with me.” WC真有蚊子:“?跟我有啥关系。” Irena: Brothers, you exploded the wolf. 😂 伊蕾娜:“兄弟,你爆狼了。(滑稽) Is Long: Pattern the pattern, you think that you are intelligent? Do you want to obtain? If you intelligent think again well why I do not do, but also comes to here to post to state that I do not do.( Squint)” 方长:“格局啊格局,你以为就你聪明?就你想得到?你要是聪明就再好好想想,为什么我不这么搞,还来这儿发帖声明我不这么搞呗。(斜眼)” Ye Ten: In measured must come to our factory to move bricks? I seal you to be the workshop director. 😂 夜十:“等内测了要来我们厂搬砖吗?我封你做车间主任。(滑稽) Old White: Hahahaha, Public Beta! I look at Public Beta should.” 老白:“哈哈哈哈,公测吧!我看公测应该可以。” Light: „( Applauds)” 光:“(鼓掌)” Vinevine: Plan is big!” 藤藤:“策划大大!” Professor Yang The Lightning Yama: „......, Is theory, do not take seriously, I spoke thoughtlessly a saying .( Perspiration soybean)” 雷电法王杨教授:“……呃,都是理论哈,别当真,我就随口一说,咳咳。(流汗黄豆)” I'm Arrogant, So What: Smiled, said with is really same. Continues to install, I thought when you can install to go.( Digs out nose)” 爷傲奈我何:“笑了,说的和真的一样。继续装,我看你们能装到啥时候去。(抠鼻)” Quit Smoking: Father! Asked you, to the opportunity. T. T 戒烟:“爹!求求你了,给个机会吧。T.T” Switched off the post to stroll an official site, Chu Guang discovered that the appointment population from 888 has risen 996. 关掉帖子逛了一圈官网,楚光发现预约人数已经从888涨到了996。 The drainage method efficiency that although hoping swallows the bait was low, but the advantage can sieve large quantities of non- target audience. 虽然愿者上钩的引流方法效率低了点,但好处是能筛掉一大批非目标群体。 What is non- target audience? 什么叫非目标群体? Professor Yang this type is fish slip through that has not sieved, at least is not the Beta Testing Stage target audience. 杨教授这种便属于没筛掉的漏网之鱼,至少不是封测阶段的目标群体。 How daily ponders over to open hangs, displays their wisdom and bravery with game BUG and plan, game that doing right by others play laboriously? 天天琢磨着怎么开挂,用游戏BUG和策划斗智斗勇,对得起人家辛辛苦苦做的游戏嘛? Can't move bricks to NPC well? 就不能好好地给NPC搬砖嘛? Reaches an agreement does not delete the files, lets you, when T1 and T0! 都说好不删档,让你们当T1、T0了! Must think the means to give...... also the B2 level some so many young players to wait to get online moves bricks.” “得想办法把B2层给开了啊……还有这么多小玩家等着上线搬砖呢。” Does not know that the B2 level has many incubator. 不知道B2层有多少台培养舱 However here still has a problem is, now the player is also less than 100, the ample capacity of elevator had somewhat become serious, what to do broken waited for the later player thousand broken ten thousand to be possible? 不过这里还存在一个问题就是,现在玩家还不到一百个,电梯的运力就已经有些吃紧了,等以后玩家破千破万了可咋整? Broken 1 million even ten million/countless? 破百万甚至千万了呢? Naturally, Chu Guang thought that this vault designer should consider these issues, for example other floors exist to go directly to the exit|to speak of surface. 当然,楚光觉得这座避难所的设计者应该会考虑这些问题,比如其他楼层存在能够直达地表的出口。 After all is so big a seeking asylum facility, does not have the truth only then an exit|to speak to outside world, if communication parallel world technology is completed in this vault, then first generation manager should leave him to produce this incubator technology. 毕竟这么大一座避难设施,也没道理只有一条通往外界的出口,而且如果“沟通平行世界地技术”是在这座避难所里完成的,那么初代管理者应该会留给他生产这种培养舱的技术。 Waiting can deliver player to arrive at the surface from vault massively, naturally measured to. 等能够从避难所大量投送“玩家”到地表,自然就到内测了。 Waiting can be separated from vault space limitation, in surface mass production player, Public Beta naturally when the time comes. 等能够脱离避难所本身的空间局限性,在地表上批量生产“玩家”的时候,公测自然就到时候了。 Xia Yan.” 夏盐。” Hears Chu Guang to shout suddenly own name, sat gawked to dizziness Weapon Shop Lady in the corner back spine, looked up at a loss to him. 听到楚光忽然喊自己的名字,坐在墙角背书背到头晕的武器店老板娘愣了下,茫然地抬头看向他。 Does?” “干嘛?” „Do you know how to contact with the slave merchant?” “你知不知道怎么联系奴隶商人?” Hears slave merchant these four characters, the complexion of this little miss was white, both hands closely pinched the book, the body as if were shrinking. 听到奴隶商人这四个字,这小姑娘的脸色唰的白了,双手紧紧捏着本子,身子仿佛缩了一圈。 „Do you, you want to do?” “你,你想干嘛?” „......?” “……?” Although knows that she wants to be many probably, but actually to open wide the brain to where went, Chu Guang can draw a tree derivation on possibility. 虽然知道她大概是想多了,但究竟是把脑洞开到哪儿去了,楚光能就其中的可能性画出一个树形图。 Bothersome. 啧,烦。 He guesses repugnantly. 他最讨厌猜。 Sees Chu Guang not to speak, in the Xia Yan complexion is fair and healthy-looking, is red passes azure, the misunderstanding is getting deeper and deeper, root trembles said. 楚光没说话,夏盐的脸色白里透红,红里透青,误会越来越深,牙根儿打颤地说道。 I, my my I, if where has not completed, you told me, I definitely changed. No, do not sell...... to ask you me.” “我,我我我要是哪里没做好,你告诉我,我肯定改。别,别别把我卖了……求求你了。” What foolish talk...... are you speaking? You do not remain a leg, why I sold you,” Chu Guang shows the whites of the eyes, urged, I planned to buy a labor force, asked you did have familiar the person who did this aspect business, did have a few words quickly.” “……你在说什么蠢话?你不是还剩一条腿么,我干嘛把你卖了,”楚光翻了个白眼,催促道,“我打算买点劳动力,问你有没有熟悉的做这方面生意的人,有没有一句话赶快的。” This fellow was really idle. 这家伙果然还是太闲了。 Generally speaking, hearing the company must lay off, most is afraid that definitely catches a fish by hand frequently. Without catching a fish by hand, what you are afraid? 一般来讲,听说公司要裁员,最害怕的肯定是经常摸鱼的那个。要是没摸鱼,你害怕啥? Un? 嗯? Although always feels the Chu Guang reply a little issue, but after all do not sell oneself. 虽然总觉得楚光的回答有点问题,但总归不是要把自己卖了。 Xia Yan relaxes, the tight shoulder also followed to relax. 夏盐松了口气,绷紧的肩膀也跟着放松了下来。 Pasted slowly backward on the wall, she lifted the eyebrow to look at Chu Guang one, the whisper said. 缓缓向后贴在了墙上,她抬起眉毛瞄了楚光一眼,嘀咕说道。 I, where I knew that merchant, you looked probably person who I can afford the slave?” “我,我哪里认识那种商人啊,你看我像是买得起奴隶的人吗?” „, Haven't you sold?” “啧,你们就没卖过?” You, when I am? I am also, earnest mercenary, is not raider.” Xia Yan is blushing to argue. “你当我是什么人?我好歹也是,正儿八经的佣兵,又不是掠夺者。”夏盐红着脸争辩道。 Chu Guang shrugs, does not make the appraisal. 楚光耸了耸肩,不做评价。 The mercenary and is raider difference very big? 佣兵和掠夺者的区别很大吗? Under the merchant will be a guest performer raider occasionally, let alone is originally by the mercenary who the spear/gun makes a living? However closely examines does not have the matter of meaning very much, moreover is to him unimportant. 就连商人偶尔都会客串下掠夺者,何况是本来靠枪谋生的佣兵呢?不过追问过去是一件很没意思的事情,况且对他来说也不重要。 I really do not have!!” “我真没有!!” „, That was really was a pity, I was also counting on can buy a labor force to come back, helping my people lighten some burdens.” “嗷,那真是太可惜了,我还指望着能买点劳动力回来,帮我的子民们减轻些负担。” Xia Yan looked at his one eyes, the tactical fear, shrank the shoulder not to speak. 夏盐看了他一眼,战术性害怕,缩了缩肩膀没说话。 Remembers that the previous this fellow this word called the blue coat that these will not speak with resident, this time has started with people unexpectedly. 记得上次这家伙还是用“居民”这个词称呼那些不会说话的蓝外套,这次居然已经开始用“子民”了。 Next time can turn into the servant directly? 下次会不会直接变成仆人? Too was really fearful...... 真是太可怕了…… This fellow ancestors definitely were a devil! 这家伙上辈子肯定是个恶魔! No, this whole life is! 不,这辈子就是!
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