„I first give everyone to introduce, this is Mr. Xu Xiaoming, is «Huo Yuanjia», «Chen true», " Kapok Cassock » director.” “我先给大家介绍一下,这位是徐晓明先生,也是《霍元甲》、《陈真》、《木棉袈裟》的导演。” Oh! 哇哦！ The first person causes the audience to call out in alarm, «Kapok Cassock» has not possibly looked, but first two „everybody turning out”. Xu Xiaoming over 30 years old is, when the maturity, has that all at once the potential very much, is the standard spoken Chinese is not good. 第一个人就引得全场惊呼,《木棉袈裟》可能没看过,前两部可是“万人空巷”。徐晓明三十多岁,正值壮年,很有那么一股气势,就是普通话不好。 „This is the apprentice of Mr. slow, Dion Lam. This is the actor in our mainland, «Kapok Cassock» acts the leading role in the glowing countenance.” “这位是徐先生的徒弟,林迪安。这位是我们大陆的演员,《木棉袈裟》主演于容光。” Dion Lam is thin and small, appearance but actually also good. It was familiar in the glowing countenance, this goods young time was very old with old no difference. 林迪安非常瘦小,长相倒还不错。于容光就很熟悉了,这货年轻的时候跟老了没啥区别都很老。 „This is Hong Kong renowned martial arts guide Mr. Yuan Xiangren, this is his younger brother Yuan Richu.” “这位是香港著名武术指导袁祥仁先生,这位是他的弟弟袁日初。” Altogether five people, take a seat in turn. 一共五个人,依次落座。 This chat form face-to-face is very new, on the stage is not comfortable except for Xu Xiaoming, because is the technical personnel, never has well-respected, but also same mounts the stage the interview with the big star. 这种面对面的聊天形式很新鲜,台上除了徐晓明都不自在,因为是技术人员,从来没受过重视,还跟大明星一样登台采访。 „Several are the first time came to the inland?” “几位都是第一次来内地么？” „I am not, they are.” Xu Xiao bright way. “我不是,他们是。”徐晓明道。 „What impression then has to Capital City?” “那对京城有什么印象？” „......” “呃……” The beginning chatted for several minutes, is is asking individual situation. permits non- knits the brows, bears the temper to listen to a meeting, has not entered the subject, asked quietly: „Draft that who writes?” 开场聊了几分钟,全是问个人情况。许非皱眉,耐着性子又听一会,还没进主题,悄声问:“谁写的稿子？” „Liu Di, this is he handles.” Li Mudao. “刘迪吧,这场是他操办的。”李沐道。 Does the wool! 搞毛啊！ He saw on the stage already toward the family/home country mood, could not bear say: „This is not good, said again one will close.” 他见台上已经往家国情怀上走了,忍不住道:“这不行,再说一会闭馆了。” Li bathe also feels odd, is not ice wind that interview, did you chat the childhood to do the hammer? Then with the assistant station chief whisper, „changed the subject, we want the technical background, what can this exchange?” 李沐也觉得离谱,又不是凌风那种访谈,你聊童年干锤子？遂偏头跟副台长耳语,“跑题了,咱们要技术经验,这能交流出什么？” „Has the method?” “有方法么？” „Makes permits non- come up.” “让许非上去。” The assistant station chief beckons with the hand, on Li Muchong gave a hand signal, referred to side. 副台长摆摆手,李沐冲上面做了个手势,又指了指旁边。 The host is the Beijing , Taiwan people on one's own side, responded is extremely quick, says with a smile: „Through an interview, had the preliminary understanding of several moment ago. permits non- of below invited arts center mounts the stage, communicates with everyone together.” 主持人是京台自己人,反应极快,笑道:“通过刚才一番采访,对几位也有了初步了解。下面有请艺术中心的许非上台,跟大家一起交流。” She worried secretly, moved a position. 她暗捏一把汗,挪了个位置。 The Hong Kong friends are strange, how to be saying was saying changed the host? Without the means that inexperienced, before had not done. 香港朋友还奇怪,怎么说着说着换主持人了？没办法,经验不足啊,以前没搞过。 But permits non- comes up, sits naturally, opens the mouth: „It is well known, the Hong Kong movie and TV business is prosperous, the swordsmen film Kungfu movie is extremely or popular, from this was also born we to have the exclusive industry that the supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting.” 而许非上来,大大方方一坐,张口就来:“众所周知,香港影视业非常繁盛,武侠片或者说功夫片极受欢迎,由此也诞生了一种只有我们才有的独家行业,武行。” He turns to Yuan Xiangren, said with a smile: „Teacher Yuan hello, as far as I know, the Hong Kong movie supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting should begin in your father Mr. Yuan Xiaotian, can say to us in detail?” 他转向袁祥仁,笑道:“袁老师您好,据我所知,香港电影武行应该始于您的父亲袁小田先生,能不能给我们详细讲一讲？” „, Good.” “呃,好。” Yuan Xiangren a moment ago also ignorant, now retrieves the right way, his mouth recording tape Cantonese taste, but compared with Xu Xiaoming standard. 袁祥仁刚才也懵,现在才找回正路,他口音带点粤语味,但比徐晓明标准。 „ Said begins is not at all, but my father truly is earliest one batch makes the supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting. He is a native of Beijing, at first sang the Peking opera, the 30's time at the invitation of Mr. Xue Juexian, was the young male warrior to the Guangdong opera, afterward arrived in Hong Kong. “说始于不敢当,不过我父亲确实是最早一批做武行的。他是京城人,最初唱京剧,三十年代的时候应薛觉先先生邀请,到粤剧里做武生,后来又到了香港。 Early period Hong Kong movie unusual drama, basically was the reprint of Guangdong opera, my father naturally entered the movie line. Is the substitute person, is the actor, holds the post of the movement design. 香港早期的电影非常戏曲化,基本是粤剧的翻版,我父亲自然就进了电影行。做替身,做演员,也担任动作设计。 Afterward more and more military people and actors entered Hong Kong, brought the different styles, had the south school time and north school time. Because the Kungfu movie is very popular, pats are getting more and more, these people also had the opportunity. 后来越来越多的武人和伶人进入香港,带来不同的风格,有南派功夫和北派功夫。因为功夫片很受欢迎,拍的越来越多,这些人也有了用武之地。 It is at first non-standard, I remember that seems like for 64 years, Wong Tin-lam has piece «Iron arm diamond», my father have the secondary roles to enter the group, that is the Hong Kong's first supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting secondary roles. 起初很不规范,我记得好像是64年,王天林有部片《铁臂金刚》,我父亲自己带着班底进组,那是香港第一个武行班底。 From now, became a unique trade slowly, now is mature, has getting married class, the Hong class and Liu class, our Yuan classes. ” 从此以后,就慢慢成了一个特有行当,现在已经非常成熟了,有成家班、洪家班、刘家班,还有我们袁家班。” „In other words, the supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting emerges at the drama. The martial arts instruction possibly is a person, but the trade like the beforehand theatrical troupe, there are to sing the painted face, has to sing the old student, has to sing the clown, performs its own functions.” “就是说,武行脱胎于戏曲。武术指导可能是一个人,但行当却像以前的戏班子一样,有唱花脸,有唱老生,有唱丑角,各司其职。” „Right.” “对对。” Yuan Xiangren is very happy, the opposite party understands, all in the point that asked that „ made a movie featuring Chinese acrobatic fighting to be very complex, the manpower who therefore our supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting needed were many. 袁祥仁很愉快,对方懂,问的全在点上,“拍一部武打片很复杂,所以我们武行需要的人手非常多。 For example good that your somersault turns, good, wanted you, you were responsible for turning a somersault, after all had your lens. For example you hang are one certainly...... ” 比如你跟头翻的好,那好,要你了,你就负责翻跟头,终归有你一个镜头。比如你吊威亚是一绝……” „Hangs the steel wire, «Journey to the West» flies round these, hangs the steel wire.” permits non- explained one to below. “威亚就是吊钢丝,《西游记》飞来飞去那些,都是吊钢丝。”许非跟下面解释了一句。 „Right, the movement that you fly is more attractive than others, you are responsible for hanging. Your skin coarse meat is thick, good, you are responsible for coming under attack. You are thin, the stature is small, that also wants, substitute person who you can be the female star......” “对,你飞起来的动作比别人漂亮,那你就负责吊威亚。你皮糙肉厚,那好,你就负责挨打。或者你瘦,身材小,那也要,你可以做女明星的替身……” „Anzai has done, you look at him to be pretty, long like.” Xu Xiaoming patted Dion Lam. “安仔就做过啦,你看他眉清目秀,长的就像。”徐晓明拍了拍林迪安。 „My father has also done!” Yuan Xiangren said with a smile “我父亲也做过啊！”袁祥仁笑道 „I am not definitely good, my stature could not be the female star.” Yu Rongguang said. “那我肯定不行,我这身材的当不了女明星。”于荣光道。 „Ha!” “哈哈哈！” One happy, the atmosphere seegra savasana, the mood also got up. 台上台下一乐,气氛瞬间松弛,谈兴也起来了。 The audience are suddenly enlighted, Kou occupy heard that two shine, originally this called the supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting! 观众恍然大悟,寇占闻两眼放光,原来这就叫武行！ permits non- was still continuing, asked: „«Shaolin Monastery» several have definitely looked, thought how inside movement does design?” 许非仍在继续,问:“《少林寺》几位肯定都看过吧,觉得里面的动作设计怎么样？” „......” “……” The issue is somewhat sensitive, several people look at each other one, Xu Xiaoming opens the mouth saying: „Is outstanding, style tradition, somewhat like the swordsmen film of Shao, quite practical.” 问题有些敏感,几人对视一眼,徐晓明开口道:“非常优秀,风格传统,有些像邵氏的武侠片,比较写实一点。” „Is you, as soon as fights with the fists, I hide, I kick your foot again, every gesture and motions conform to the action logic very much.” permits Feidao. “就是你一拳打过来,我躲过去,我再踢你一脚,一招一式很符合动作逻辑。”许非道。 „Action logic described! We manage it to call hard bridge hard horse, in Nanquan there is a saying ‚to practice the hard bridge hard horse, can fight steadily’. Places in the movie, is very practical meaning.” “动作逻辑这个形容好！我们管它叫硬桥硬马,南拳里有句话叫‘练得硬桥硬马,方能稳扎稳打’。放在电影里,就是很写实的意思。” „Therefore the Liu class favors this style, they study Nanquan.” “所以刘家班推崇这种风格,他们学南拳。” „Right.” “对对。” The Xu Xiaoming suitable surprise, this handsome young man understands very much! 徐晓明相当诧异,这个靓仔很懂嘛！ „Your several feelings currently does the movement design of Hong Kong movie, what have unlike the beforehand ratio?” “那您几位感觉现在香港电影的动作设计,跟以前比有什么不同？” „How that word said that, kept pace with the times!” “那个词怎么讲,哦,与时俱进！” Xu Xiao bright way: „ Movie type in unceasingly rich, the supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting must be able to follow. Before was popular of Shao to follow a prescribed pattern, afterward journey dragon the flat and thin piece fire, the style changed, vaudeville with acrobatic fighting union. Afterward had the zombie piece, the style changed, how the zombie piece hit, was puts out a hand one finger/refers, together light in the past. 徐晓明道:“电影类型在不断丰富,武行也要跟得上。以前流行邵氏的那种一板一眼,后来程龙的片子火了,风格一变,把杂耍跟武打结合。后来有了僵尸片,风格又变,僵尸片怎么打,就是伸手一指,一道光过去。 Last year had a piece to call «Attractive Female Ghost», spoke demons and monsters. Demons and monsters fly in the space, definitely cannot be like the person, therefore is elegant. 去年有部片叫《倩女幽魂》,讲妖魔鬼怪的。妖魔鬼怪都在天上飞,肯定不能跟人一样,所以就非常飘逸。 Inside has the taoist priest to name be swallow Chixia, he causes the flying sword. Flying sword thing who has seen, depends on itself to think. 里面有个道士叫燕赤霞,他使飞剑。飞剑这东西谁见过,靠自己想嘛。 This style cannot be more suitable the actor of martial arts, he could not make the hard bridge hard horse, can only be elegant. Naturally is also attractive, cannot lift the hand flying sword on the past, then the person is motionless, you suspend a modeling at least......, therefore swallow Chixia is good. ” 这种风格更适合不懂武术的演员,他做不了硬桥硬马,只能飘逸。当然也要好看,不能一抬手飞剑就过去了,然后人一动不动,你起码摆个造型……所以燕赤霞就非常好。” „Haha, the circle came back!” in Rongguang laughs. “哈哈,圆回来了！”于容光大笑。 „Director slow and Director journey, should not be offended, did not say you.” “徐导演、程导演,别见怪,不是说你们。” Xu Xiaoming knows them unable to see, but also funny arched cupping one hand in the other across the chest, this is the entertainment custom of Hong Kong. 徐晓明知道他们看不到,但也搞笑的拱了拱手,这就是香港的娱乐习惯。 permits Feijian the topic chatted, then asked: „The soap opera of inland started just for ten years, various aspects were not mature. If we must make the Kungfu movie, or the training martial arts instruction, which several do have to suggest?” 许非见话题聊开了,遂问:“内地的电视剧起步刚十年,各方面都不成熟。如果我们要拍功夫片,或培养武术指导,几位有哪些建议？” „, Two place styles are different, I did not understand that the film and television play of mainland, I said my viewpoint.” “呃,两地风格不同,我也不了解大陆的影视剧,我就说说自己的观点。” Yuan Xiangren thinks, said: „ In front of me said that a racket movie featuring Chinese acrobatic fighting is very complex, where is complex? You must first determine that its background and style, was the ancient play, the Republic of China play, was the modern drama? Is real, is gaudy, is elegant? 袁祥仁想了想,道:“我前面说拍一部武打片很复杂,复杂在哪里呢？你要先确定它的背景和风格,是古代戏,民国戏,还是现代戏？是真实一点的,还是花哨一点,还是飘逸一点？ Then looks at the actor, according to role design movement. 然后看演员,根据角色设计动作。 Natural causes the sword, the thick patch of grass makes the blade, the monk make the stick, the assassin make the hidden weapon...... the actor meet the time especially, must display individual characteristics, Liang Xiaolong leg law is good, in has many in «Chen true» movement that kicks the leg. ” 潇洒的使剑,草莽的使刀,和尚使棍,刺客使暗器……尤其演员会功夫的,要发挥个人特点,梁小龙腿法好,在《陈真》里就有很多踢腿的动作。” „Also must draw support from the item.” “还要借助道具。” Xu Xiao exposed joint tastes: „ Item can make the movement ingenious, " Chen true » movement is I and Liang Xiaolong designs, he has one slightly to create a disturbance with the flatter heart. Plays a drawn game greatly slightly hits differently, hits greatly is intense, slightly hits is fine. 徐晓明接口道:“道具可以让动作变得巧妙,《陈真》的动作是我和梁小龙设计的,他跟阿心有一场小打闹。大打和小打不一样,大打要激烈,小打要精致。 I made heart take an umbrella, at that time a cart, a Junior Brother. 我让阿心拿了一把伞,当时还有一辆推车,一个师弟。 The flatter heart fights with the umbrella, the design wants a girl point, the movement is pretty. Chen true is teasing her, is the meaning of vaudeville, keeps off with that Junior Brother, all hits on him, such effect came out. 阿心用伞打架,设计要女孩子一点,动作娇俏。陈真在逗她,是杂耍的意思,拿那个师弟挡来挡去,全打在他身上,这样效果就出来了。 Really must ask how the movement does design specifically? This is too complex, without the shortcut, needs to accumulate slowly. ” 真要问动作具体怎么设计？这个太复杂,没有捷径,需要慢慢积累。” „I thought that the imagination is also very important, that fights like Liang Xiaolong and Teacher Yuan......” “我觉得想象力也很重要,就像梁小龙和袁老师那场打斗……” permits non- to the stage, said with a smile: „Chen true saves Huo Dongjiao, eight hits with the rivers and lakes wildly, hasn't recognized? Eight wild are Teacher Yuan develops.” 许非冲着台下,笑道:“陈真救霍东觉,跟江湖八野打,没认出来吧？八野就是袁老师演的。” ! 哇！ „Originally is he? Not like.” “原来是他啊？一点都不像。” „I also think that is an old woman installs.” “我还以为是个老太太装的呢。” Under discusses spiritedly, this audience of year does not have a bad memory. The rivers and lakes eight wild that modeling, the face brushes white, wears the white hair wrap/sets, black Qi the black clothes, with Han old demon. 底下议论纷纷,这年头的观众一点都不健忘。江湖八野那造型,脸刷白,戴着白发套,乌漆嘛黑的衣服,跟韩老魔似的。 „That is this, troubles you to demonstrate with me.” “那场是这样,麻烦你跟我演示一下。” Yuan Xiangren sets out to invite, the double fist finds out, permits Feizhan in the opposite, grasps firmly his fist to make the test of strength shape. 袁祥仁起身邀请,双拳探出,许非站在对面,攥住他的拳头做角力状。 At that time Yuan Xiangren from the abdomen, extended two hands to beat savagely Chen true suddenly, making the audience impression extremely deep. 当时袁祥仁从腹部两侧,突然又伸出两只手暴打陈真,让观众印象极深。 „Eight wild belt/bring points endure the way of technique, therefore is strange. This is very simple, what Chen true holds is the false arm, I hide the hand in the clothes, suddenly extends, created the feelings of two hands.” “八野带点忍术的路数,所以要诡异。这个很简单,陈真抓住的是假胳膊,我把手藏在衣服里,突然伸出去,就造成多了两只手的感觉。” „This is my stage craft is also good, has not given it away.” “这也是我导演技巧好,没穿帮。” Xu Xiaoming smiles, added: „Actually they have not a little said that does not fear death.” 徐晓明笑了笑,补充道:“其实还有一点他们没讲,不怕死。” „How to say?” permits non- asked. “怎么说？”许非问。 „ Because you want to depend on this keeping a family, fighting tooth and nail high-rank. For example pats lens that falls from the high place downward, you are afraid do not dare to jump, later does not use you. Others dare to jump, he over. “因为你想靠这个养家糊口,就得搏命上位。比如拍一个从高处往下摔的镜头,你害怕不敢跳,以后不用你。人家敢跳,那他就出头了。 We usually are ten supporting roles featuring acrobatic fighting line up to wait, the first person was injured by falling down, second linking-up, the ambulance outside the square, was injured by falling down went to the hospital directly...... ” 我们通常是十个武行排队等着,第一个人摔坏了,第二个接上,救护车就在片场外面,摔坏了直接去医院……” This time the words cause one to call out in alarm, did not understand. 此番话又引得一阵惊呼,根本不理解。 permits non- was clear, in -depth factor had not said. First, the boss only recognizes the benefit, does not give the safeguard ; Second, Hong Kong movie too tasteful visual impact strength. 许非心里清楚,还有更深层的因素没说。一是老板只认效益,不给保障;二是香港电影太讲究视觉冲击力。 More dangerous lens are more exciting, the more exciting audience more likes looking, the breakthrough upper limit that therefore various secondary roles do everything possible, has not killed people on the difference directly. 越危险的镜头越刺激,越刺激观众越爱看,所以各班底想方设法的突破上限,就差没直接杀人。 Like «Ghost Exorcising demons», Sammo Hung invented a new method. 像《鬼打鬼》里,洪金宝就发明了一个新玩法。 A substitute person hit in the future will fly, hangs the steel wire, Sammo Hung is shearing the steel wire directly, substitute person directly in the air falling body. 一个替身被打的往后飞,吊着钢丝,洪金宝直接把钢丝剪断,替身直接空中落体。 The effect had, the person also falls half dead. 效果有了,人也摔得半死。 ( Also has......) (还有……)