A Li Mu saying favored itself, Teacher Lei very clear Li Mu said this saying meaning at heart. 李牧一说更看好自己,雷教主心里就很明白李牧说这话的意思。 It seems like that Li Mu has to covet to the security software market, and ambition is big. 看来,李牧对安全软件市场是有觊觎的,而且野心不小。 Thinks again carefully, he held a favorable view Kingsoft future opinion many somewhat to disdain on himself a moment ago, as if explained that he himself has oneself plan to the security software market. 再仔细想想,他刚才对自己看好金山未来的言论多少有些不屑,似乎更说明他自己对安全软件市场有自己的规划。 This is not a good signal. 这可不是一个好的讯号。 Even can say, is worst signal that near future receive. 甚至可以说,是近期自己收到的最坏信号。 Even if Joyo were attacked this by Taobao, oneself have not felt flurriedly in the heart. 即便是卓越被淘宝冲击成这样,自己也没有在心底感觉到慌乱。 However, Li Mu disclosed vaguely he wants to make the intention of security software, could not be borne feel the huge anxiety by oneself. 但是,李牧隐晦透露出他想做安全软件的意图,让自己心里忍不住感到巨大的紧张。 In Kingsoft several big product battlelines, the security software and word processor is most important, if kills has problems softly, that may really be awfully. 金山几大产品阵线中,安全软件和文字处理软件是重中之重,如果杀软出问题,那可真是要命了。 Without the means. 没办法。 China internet in present this age, various companies is nest all kinds of poultry eggs is still going all out to hatch to put it bluntly, Li Mu had jumped over this stage directly, the hand with the iron hammer, wants to smash to seem like anyone is not the issue. 华夏互联网在现在这个年代,各公司说白了就是一窝各种各样的家禽蛋正还在拼命孵化,李牧已经直接跳过了这个阶段,手拿铁锤,想砸烂似乎谁都不是问题。 Teacher Lei silent moment, earnest asking Li Mu: „Does Chief Li also prepare to make the security software market?” 雷教主沉默片刻,认真的问李牧:“李总也准备做安全软件市场？” Li Mu shows a faint smile: „In the future must do.” 李牧微微一笑:“将来是一定要做的。” Teacher Lei deeply inspires, asked: „That please ask, how Chief Li do you regard the security software market future development opportunities?” 雷教主深吸一口气,又问:“那请问一下,李总你怎么看待安全软件市场未来的发展空间？” Li Mu said with a laugh: „Chief Lei, the security software market space will be definitely getting bigger and bigger, the future security software market certainly will just trade a new method, this point is without a doubt, as for trading what method, I have not wanted to understand at present.” 李牧笑着说:“雷总,安全软件市场空间肯定会越来越大,只不过未来的安全软件市场一定会换个新玩法,这一点是毋庸置疑的,至于换什么样的玩法,我眼下还没有想明白。” Li Mu does not dare to underestimate the Teacher Lei strength, if him tells that now in the future the development direction of security market is free, his although do not believe that but oneself say, he will certainly ponder over earnestly, is in itself person, to understand, turned head he to become Zhou Hongyi, that may really be the day the dog. 李牧可不敢低估雷教主的实力,如果现在跟他说未来安全市场的发展方向是免费,他虽然自己不信,但自己说出来的话,他一定会认真琢磨,本身就是人杰,万一想明白了,一扭头他成了周宏祎,那可真是日了狗了。 Lei Jun is at heart disturbed, Li Mu said that must trade a new method, but also said does not want to understand, oneself almost can see immediately he is intentionally concealing, he has certainly the plan not to say. 雷君心里更为忐忑,李牧说要换个新玩法,但是紧接着又说没想明白,自己几乎立刻就能看出他是在刻意隐瞒,他一定是已经有了计划只是不愿意说出来罢了。 At this time, Li Mu looks at Teacher Lei, is asking him suddenly: „Is Chief Lei, interested in jumping out of the circle of security software, handles a pattern bigger matter?” 就在这个时候,李牧忽然看着雷教主,笑着问他:“雷总,有没有兴趣跳出安全软件的圈子,做点格局更大的事情？” Teacher Lei surprised looks at Li Mu: „Which pattern bigger things?” 雷教主惊讶的看着李牧:“哪些格局更大的事情？” „e-Commerce.” Li Mu said with a smile: „Joyo does not have in the future, the Kingsoft future is very confusing, with its this, might as well join Taobao, with me and Chief Liu together, we handles a pattern bigger matter.” “电商啊。”李牧笑道:“卓越已经没未来了,金山的未来还很扑朔迷离,与其这样,不如加入淘宝,跟我和刘总一起,咱们做点格局更大的事情。” Liu Qiangdong is suspicious is sending the message, hearing these words to put down the cell phone temporarily, raised the head said to Teacher Lei: „Chief Lei, Taobao is attracting the high-quality partner at present vigorously, if you are interested, I with Chief Li anticipated that you can join.” 刘镪东正在偷摸着发短信,听见这句话暂时把手机放下,抬起头来对雷教主说道:“雷总,淘宝眼下正在大力吸纳优质合作伙伴,如果你感兴趣的话,我跟李总都期待你能加入。” Teacher Lei oneself have the product and e-Commerce gene, really buried in the security software domain, although he as in the future the unceasing promotion of pattern, oneself also jumped out of security software well on own initiative, but that was also many year later things. 雷教主本人是有产品和电商基因的,在安全软件领域实在是埋没了,虽然他未来随着格局的不断提升,自己也主动跳出了安全软件这口井,但那也是很多年以后的事情了。 If can entrain him from Kingsoft at this time, first places Taobao to make him handle e-Commerce as soon as possible, before particularly in the future in the hardware market, the window of smartphone market will open, then him pulls out to be the hardware, at that time when he can certainly display him to operate the Xiaomi wrist/skill and repertoire. 如果能够在这个时候就把他从金山拽出来,先放在淘宝让他尽快玩转电商,未来在硬件市场,尤其是智能手机市场的窗口打开之前,再把他抽出来做硬件,那时候他一定能发挥出他运作小米时的手腕和套路。 But this time Teacher Lei didn't expect, Li Mu actually wants to dig itself, oneself and his first meeting, why did he invite himself to join Taobao directly? Which point did he settle on oneself? 而此时的雷教主怎么都没想到,李牧竟然有心要挖自己,自己和他第一次见面,他为什么这么直接的邀请自己加入淘宝？他看中自己哪一点了？ However, in the Teacher Lei although heart has doubts, but innermost feelings many somewhat is excited, no matter what, this is Li Mu to own one approval, although his were smaller, but in the internet industry, he is biggest that can obtain his approval naturally is a proud matter. 不过,雷教主虽然心中疑惑,但是内心多少还是有些激动,不管怎样,这是李牧对自己的一种认可,虽说他比自己小了很多,但在互联网行业,他是最大的那一个,能得到他的认可自然是一件值得骄傲的事情。 Thinks of here, Teacher Lei has not gone to consider carefully, first asked Li Mu: „Chief Li and Chief Liu, you thought that I do suit Taobao this platform?” 想到这里,雷教主也没去仔细考虑,先问李牧:“李总、刘总,你们觉得我适合淘宝这个平台吗？” Li Mu said with a smile: „Suitable, what having isn't suitable? I know that Joyo.com is your painstaking care, yourself definitely also favor the e-Commerce industry, since this, why directly doesn't join at present China best e-Commerce Corporation?” 李牧笑道:“适合,有什么不适合？我知道卓越网是你的心血,你自己肯定也更倾向于电商行业,既然这样,为什么不直接加入目前华夏最好的电子商务公司？” Saying, Li Mu was also saying: „Yourself were only grew to the Kingsoft future estimate a moment ago ‚continually’ and ‚are getting higher and higher’, but who knows, the hardware base number of internet industry constantly has also been growing in growing, the subscriber, this was the industry aggregate general dividend, in this case, most enterprises can achieve ‚grow continually’ and ‚are getting higher and higher’, the estimate that therefore according to made to Kingsoft, sees you actually not to have the too big confidence to the Kingsoft future sufficiently.” 说着,李牧又道:“刚才你自己对金山未来的预估只是‘持续增长’、‘越来越高’,但是谁都知道,互联网行业的硬件基数一直在不断增长、用户数量也在不断增长,这是行业整体的普遍型红利,在这种情况下,大部分企业都可以做到‘持续增长’和‘越来越高’,所以依照对金山做出的预估,足以见得你对金山的未来其实是没有太大信心的。” Teacher Lei hesitated slightly the moment, smiles awkwardly, said: „I have the too big confidence, but does should the relatively conservative estimate.” 雷教主略微迟疑了片刻,尴尬一笑,说道:“我并不是没有太大信心,只是做应相对保守的估计。” Li Mu nods, was accepted Teacher Lei this to own washing place, subsequently opened the mouth saying: „What you are different from Chief Lei, I to the Taobao future estimate on five characters ‚leap growth’, possibly in the golden stage of Taobao development, every several months, the estimate value can turn one time, therefore this to you, is actually one takes plane or sits the issue of train, the airplane not necessarily sits the train is more comfortable, but at least is much quicker!” 李牧点点头,算是接受了雷教主这一句给自己的洗地,继而开口道:“与雷总你不同的是,我对淘宝未来的预估就五个字‘飞越式增长’,可能在淘宝发展的黄金阶段,每隔几个月,估值就能翻一倍,所以这对你来说,其实就是一个坐飞机还是坐火车的问题,飞机不见得坐着比火车舒服,但起码快得多！” ...... …… Teacher Lei this food eats somewhat absent-minded. 雷教主这顿饭吃的有些心不在焉。 In his brain is somewhat chaotic, thinks is discussed sells the Joyo.com matter, finally the opposite party including oneself thinks that one and takes. 他的脑子里有些混乱,原本以为是来谈卖卓越网的事情,结果对方连自己都想一并拿下。 He takes Kingsoft CEO now, originally to the Kingsoft future development direction is very confident, but is actually thrown basin cold water by Li Mu today suddenly, what first can determine, Li Mu is interested in making the security software, this point and Kingsoft will have the direct conflict ; Next, Li Mu definitely has the unusual mentality, perhaps makes a move to disrupt the entire industry directly the rhythm ; Finally, once Li Mu acts, the Kingsoft future will be definitely confused. 他现在作为金山的ceo,本来对金山未来的发展方向是很有信心的,可是今天却忽然被李牧泼了一盆冷水,首先可以确定的是,李牧有兴趣做安全软件,这一点和金山会产生直接冲突;其次,李牧肯定有非同一般的思路,恐怕一出手就直接打乱整个行业的节奏;最后,李牧一旦出手,金山的未来必然会更加迷茫。 Teacher Lei the biggest goal is to lead Kingsoft now goes on the market, after going on the market is successful, oneself also retire after meritorious service, no longer continues to remain as Kingsoft, does the matter that oneself are interested in truly, the difficulty that but, Kingsoft goes on the market has been big, Li Mu makes him realize let alone today, because Li Mu eyes covetously, the possibility that Kingsoft goes on the market may sell at a discount greatly. 雷教主现在最大的目标就是带领金山上市,上市成功之后,自己也功成身退,不再继续留任金山,去做自己真正感兴趣的事情,但是,金山上市的困难一直不小,更何况李牧让他今天意识到,因为李牧虎视眈眈,金山上市的可能性可能会大打折扣。 The Li Mu's general idea is also very simple, if Teacher Lei is willing to join Taobao, the books audio and video gives him to do, Liu Qiangdong the key energy must concentrate to the logistics construction in the future, then must have the strong person to share the operation work of Taobao net, Teacher Lei absolutely is a very good choice, this person of although does not have system to play mature e-Commerce, but his strength places there, perhaps can also bring the new inspiration to oneself. 李牧的大概想法也很简单,雷教主如果愿意加入淘宝,图书音像还是交给他来做,刘镪东未来重点精力要集中到物流建设,那么一定要有强人分担淘宝网的运营工作,雷教主绝对是一个很好的选择,这人虽然没有系统玩过成熟的电子商务,但他的实力放在那里,没准还能给自己带来更多新鲜的灵感。 After Teacher Lei joins, oneself next looks for Zhou Hongyi, throws him to make the free security software, as the matter stands, does not dare saying that runs on a bank dead Kingsoft, the possibility that but wants to go on the market was lower. 雷教主加入之后,自己下一个就找周宏祎,投他做免费安全软件,这样一来,不敢说挤兑死金山,但想上市的可能性就更小了。 Meanwhile, the free security software seizes the user desktop and software distribution, when matching YY seizes the user current capacity and use is long, in this case, the basic plate is stabler. 同时,免费安全软件抢占用户桌面和软件分发,搭配yy抢占用户流量和使用时长,这样的话,基本盘就更加稳固。 After waiting for the Taobao net to become the true jumbo, Teacher Lei can leave, does him most to be good at the dry/does matter making the hardware. 等淘宝网成为真正的巨无霸之后,雷教主就可以抽身出来,干他最擅长干的事情去做硬件。 The phone industry in the future is a giant market, the software or the hardware, Li Mu must being ahead of time layout, Teacher Lei is the excellent candidate of layout hardware. 手机产业未来是个巨大的市场,无论是软件还是硬件,李牧都要提前布局,雷教主就是布局硬件的绝佳人选。 Naturally, this is only the Li Mu feeling quite ideal plan, in addition he also has oneself alternative plan, if Teacher Lei is not willing to join Taobao is not unimportant, oneself must look for Zhou Hongyi in the same old way, throws his great sum of money, making him take directly the free security software, when the time comes Kingsoft must certainly have bad luck, but oneself do not have the means that so long as decide to enter the security software domain, Kingsoft greatly will certainly be involved. 当然,这只是李牧感觉比较理想的规划,除此之外他也有自己的备用计划,如果雷教主不愿意加入淘宝也不要紧,自己照样要找周宏祎,投他一笔巨款,让他直接把免费安全软件拿出来,到时候金山肯定要倒霉了,不过自己也没办法,只要自己决定进军安全软件领域,金山就一定会受到巨大牵连。 Li Mu do not aim at Kingsoft, but must aim at Zhou Hongyi ahead of time, cannot wait for Zhou Hongyi awesome to throw him to make the security software again, at that time he will perhaps also become another Meituan king Xingban stubborn youngster, Li Mu does not want to raise the tiger to create disaster. 李牧不是要针对金山,只不过是要提前针对周宏祎,不能等周宏祎自己牛逼了再去投他做安全软件,那时候他恐怕也会成为另外一个美团王星般的倔强少年,李牧不想养虎为患。 With Teacher Lei said goodbye to time, Li Mu has not received any accurate reply of Teacher Lei, but before Teacher Lei just before leaving, promised him, once some any news or made any decision, he can first have the contact with Li Mu. 与雷教主告别的时候,李牧还没有收到雷教主的任何确切回复,不过雷教主临走之前答应他,一旦有任何消息或者做任何决定,他都会第一时间跟李牧取得联系。 After Teacher Lei walked, Li Mu has not ridden the Wang Yuanlang car(riage), but seated in the Liu Qiangdong car(riage). 雷教主走了之后,李牧没坐王元朗的车,而是坐进了刘镪东的车里。 Li Mu said an own idea in the car(riage) to Liu Qiangdong probably, if Lei Jun is willing to join, first two years first do left and right arms to him, two years later pull out him to come out to make the attempts of other new domains. 李牧在车里跟刘镪东大概说了一下自己的想法,如果雷君愿意加入,前两年先给他做左膀右臂,两年之后自己抽他出来做其他新领域的尝试。 Liu Qiangdong also truly needs an experienced person to assist from side at present, therefore drives to deliver Li Mu to go back, while asked him: „Lei Jun is Kingsoft CEO, it is said about 15 point stocks, you thought that we can dig him?” 刘镪东眼下也确实需要一个经验丰富的人从旁辅助,于是一边开车送李牧回去,一边问他:“雷君是金山的ceo,据说还有15个点左右的股份,你觉得咱们能挖得动他吗？” Li Mu said: „Chief Lei is a smart person, he will certainly weigh carefully advantages, Kingsoft net assets actually also big several million, in situation that the market prospect favors, estimate value also several hundred million ; However by Muye Science and Technology and Taobao net present industry influence, so long as I make a movement in view of Kingsoft at will, the Kingsoft market prospect and estimate value fall immediately, when the time comes he 15% stocks not necessarily can leverage many, might as well leverages now fast, to leave with no possessions or property comes simply.” 李牧说:“雷总是个聪明人,他一定会仔细衡量其中利弊的,金山的净资产其实也就大几千万,市场前景看好的情况下,估值也就几个亿;但是以牧野科技和淘宝网现在的行业影响力,只要我针对金山随意做出一点动作,金山的市场前景和估值就会立刻下跌,到时候他15%的股份不见得能套现多少,还不如现在就快速套现,净身出户来得干脆。” Saying, Li Mu self-confident saying: „I thought that he will definitely be interested, soon, he will ask me to discuss the concrete joining condition.” 说着,李牧自信满满的说道:“我觉得他肯定会感兴趣的,用不了多久,他就会找我来谈具体的加入条件。” Liu Qiangdong nods, said to Li Mu: „Oh was right, has a matter, ate meal a moment ago, Old Chen sent the message to me.” 刘镪东点了点头,对李牧说:“噢对了,有个事儿,刚才吃饭的时候,老陈给我发短信了。” „Chen Tong?” Li Mu knits the brows, asked him: „What was this brother busy at recently?” “陈同？”李牧皱了皱眉,问他:“这老哥忙什么呢最近？” „What not busy.” Liu Qiangdong shrugs saying: „Comes out to look for an appropriate platform from Sina, but the YY Portal net now is too fierce, there are YY123 23 full power conduction current, at present does not have the new company to be willing to step in the Portal net, he still had not found the right opportunity.” “什么也没忙。”刘镪东耸肩道:“从新浪出来就一直想找个合适的平台,但是yy门户网现在太猛,又有yy123全力导流,眼下已经没有新公司愿意涉足门户网了,他也一直没找到合适的机会。” Saying, Liu Qiangdong beckons with the hand saying: „Said the proper business, a Old Chen round of message wants to hold me to ask you, does Muye Science and Technology currently have the post to give him?” 说着,刘镪东摆摆手道:“说正事吧,老陈发短信是想托我问问你,牧野科技现在还有没有岗位可以给他了？” Li Mu was happy, selects the eyebrow saying: „Has, if he really considered that is willing to join Muye Science and Technology, you will make him receive the Muye Science and Technology report next week.” 李牧乐了,挑眉说道:“有啊,如果他真考虑好了愿意加入牧野科技,你让他下周一直接到牧野科技报道吧。”