RINAPE :: Volume #18

#1747: Blind dai Chinese zither what?


Morimoto wants to mediate, didn't expect Li Mu comes up not to remain to oneself on the leeway slightly. 戴文森本想斡旋一下,没想到李牧一上来就丝毫余地都没给自己留。 He somewhat said awkwardly: Mr. Li you calm down, I told a truth, the market discipline is this, behind Wall Street family influence has too many hot money not to have the place to go, in their hands is also grasping massive funds and banks, can say that half US (America) money is controlling in their hands, they noticed that what industry has the operating space, naturally noisy crowd to/clashes to gain one, is not only internet and real estate, petroleum, communication, aviation and aerospace, even foreign currency, so long as has an opportunity, they will take the opportunity to gain one.” 他有些尴尬的说:“李先生您消消气,我说句实话,市场规律就是这样,华尔街背后的家族势力有太多的热钱没有地方可去,他们手里还掌握着大量基金、银行,可以说半个美国的钱都在他们手里掌控着,他们看到什么行业有操作空间,自然就会一窝蜂的冲进来赚一笔,不光是互联网、房地产,石油、通信、航空、航天,甚至外国货币,只要是有机可乘,他们都会借机赚一笔。” Li Mu un, said: I know that way of Wall Street, they eat other industries, I cannot control, but internet is not good.” 李牧嗯了一声,道:“我知道华尔街的路数,他们吃其他的行业,我管不了,但是互联网就不行。” Saying, Li Mu was also saying: I possibly do not have the skill to resist with them directly, but said the truth, to make the ability that the investor enhanced vigilance have.” 说着,李牧又道:“我可能没本事跟他们正面对抗,但是说出事实真相、让投资者提高警惕的能力还是有的。” Aiya......” Vinson hastily said: Mr. Li, why bother with their noisy is so stiff? In the future Muye Science and Technology must go on the market in NASDAQ, maintains the relations of friendship and peace with them, will have very big advantage to you in the future.” “哎呀……”戴文森急忙说:“李先生,何苦跟他们闹的这么僵呢?将来牧野科技还要在纳斯达克上市,跟他们保持友好和平的关系,对你将来也有很大的好处啊。” Li Mu sneers saying: Is unimportant, if the capitalist table manners of Wall Street are too ugly, I go to Hong Kong stock market to go on the market, moreover I, if goes to Hong Kong stock market to go on the market, I later will not easily come US (America), will not have anything to cooperate with Wall Street this group of village bosses and bad gentry, even if later everyone is the personal enemy is still indifferent.” 李牧冷笑道:“不要紧,如果华尔街的资本家吃相太难看,那我就去港股上市,而且我如果去港股上市,我以后轻易也不会来美国,更不会跟华尔街这帮土豪劣绅有什么合作,就算以后大家做仇人也无所谓。” Saying, Li Mu was also saying: Vinson, our beforehand cooperation intentions, base on Muye Science and Technology to go on the market to decide in US (America), if I decided that gives up going on the market in US (America), our cooperation intentions became invalid even, when the time comes I may not choose HSBC to take the Muye Science and Technology ipo lord credit corroborative, even, I can tell you, I will not choose any and Wall Street have the credit corroborative of relations, my Li Mu lives up to one's words!” 说着,李牧又道:“戴文森,我们之前的合作意向,是基于牧野科技美国上市而定的,如果我决定放弃在美国上市,咱们的合作意向就算是作废了,到时候我可能不会选择汇丰作为牧野科技ipo的主承销商,甚至,我可以告诉你,我不会选择任何一家与华尔街有关系的承销商,我李牧说到做到!” A Li Mu saying saying, Vinson flustered immediately. 李牧一说这话,戴文森顿时慌了。 The present stage, which exchange is not chooses Muye Science and Technology, but is the Muye Science and Technology choice exchange. 现阶段,不是哪个交易所选择牧野科技,而是牧野科技选择交易所。 Muye Science and Technology looks like God of Wealth in reality, who wants welcome it to own family/home. 牧野科技就像是个现实中的财神爷,谁都想把它请到自己家里。 By the performance of Muye Science and Technology present stage, which wants to go on the market does not have the issue, Hong Kong not necessarily is also worse than NASDAQ. 牧野科技现阶段的业绩,想在哪上市都没问题,香港也未必就比纳斯达克差。 Muye Science and Technology has been the profit stage, market approval is high, if can melt tens of billions USD in US (America) ipo, that arrived at Hong Kong listing, can melt over a thousand hundred million Hong Kong dollars, to Muye Science and Technology, is a meaning. 牧野科技一直处在盈利阶段,市场认可度高,如果在美国ipo能融上百亿美元的话,那到了香港上市,就能融上千亿港币,对牧野科技来说,是一个意思。 Where the enterprise goes on the market, mainly considers two points. 企业去哪里上市,主要考虑两点。 First, who lets on me ; 第一,谁让我上; Second, whose condition is good. 第二,谁条件好。 For example, why do many China internet enterprises need to go to the US stock market or Hong Kong stock market go on the market? 比如,为什么许多华夏互联网企业都要去美股或者港股上市? This is the issue in first, because the domestic A stocks have the explicit request, the premise of listed enterprise is, must register for over three years, and gained for successive three years. 这就是第一条里的问题,因为国内的a股有明确要求,上市企业的一个前提是,必须注册三年以上,并且连续三年盈利。 internet Corporation are plays the creativity, to pound the concept, therefore burns money from undertaking First Day unceasingly, has been losing money the condition, for example Jingdong, many years is to lose money, this situation does not meet the condition of domestic listing ; 互联网公司多是玩创意、砸概念,所以从创业第一天就不断烧钱,一直在亏损状态,比如京东,很多年都是亏损的,这种情况根本不符合国内上市的条件; In comparison, the threshold that the US stock market and Hong Kong stock market go on the market is quite low, more suitable internet enterprise. 相比之下,美股和港股上市的门槛比较低,更适合互联网企业。 As for second, in satisfying the first situation, it is the true measurables. 至于第二条,在满足第一条的情况下,它就是真正的衡量标准。 'Alibaba' is earliest wants to go on the market in Hong Kong, but Hong Kong does not permit the same stock different power, but 'Alibaba' wants to promote the partner system, is the partner in the power of board of directors, was not owned stocks many influence. 阿里巴巴最早是想在香港上市的,但香港不允许同股不同权,而阿里巴巴想推行合伙人制,也就是合伙人在董事会的权力,不受持股多少的影响。 But Hong Kong did not agree to the request of 'Alibaba' at that time, therefore 'Alibaba' fights in the US stock market to go on the market, created the financing records of 218 hundred million USD. 但香港那时候不同意阿里巴巴的这个要求,所以阿里巴巴转战美股上市,创造了218亿美元的融资记录。 If Hong Kong accepted Ali's request at that time, Ali should go on the market in Hong Kong stock market, naturally did not have NASDAQ anything matter. 如果香港当时答应阿里的要求,那阿里应该就已经在港股上市了,自然也就没有纳斯达克什么事儿了。 To Li Mu, the same stock same power or the same stock different power, again or the partner makes does not matter, because he is the major stockholder of absolute holding, the ownership percentage surpasses 70%, voting rights 100%, even if the listing lets out 8 points and 10 points stocks, as well as 8 points and 10 points voting rights, any effect on own control. 李牧来说,同股同权或者同股不同权,再或者合伙人制都无所谓,因为他本身就是绝对控股的大股东,持股比例超过70%,投票权100%,就算上市放出去八个点、十个点的股份,以及八个点、十个点的投票权,对自己的掌控起不到任何影响。 Therefore, Li Mu said that he does not work and fights in the capitalists in Wall Street Hong Kong, can definitely achieve. 所以,李牧说他不跟华尔街的资本家合作、转战香港,是完全可以做到的。 He one does not need the capitalists in Wall Street to lead him to get rich, two do not need the capitalists in Wall Street to lend him, why can pay attention to them? 他一不需要华尔街的资本家带他发财,二不需要华尔街的资本家借钱给他,为什么要把他们放在眼里? In other words, needs Li Mu's truly, is Wall Street this group of capitalists. 换句话说,真正需要李牧的,是华尔街这帮资本家。 If Li Mu goes on the market in the US stock market, supposed that with the market value that the Lord underwriting decides is 4000 hundred million USD, simultaneously Li Mu decided puts out 8% stocks to make the stock, that before goes on the market officially, he must through Vinson, apportion the entire Wall Street, is 320 hundred million USD big lists. 李牧如果在美股上市,假设跟主承销商定的市值是4000亿美元,同时李牧决定拿出8%的股份做流通股,那么在正式上市之前,他就要通过戴文森,分给整个华尔街的,就是320亿美元的大单。 Performance like Muye Science and Technology excellent, prospect excellent enterprise, 320 hundred million USD stocks of ipo stage release, simply is getting rich machine. 牧野科技这样业绩绝佳、前景绝佳的企业,ipo阶段发行的320亿美元股票,简直就是发财机器。 This batch of stocks who takes who gets rich, listing First Day turns to a 64 billion proper not issue. 这批股票谁拿到手谁就发财,上市第一天翻到640亿妥妥的没一点问题。 If displays to be better, like Google, there are possibility Muye Science and Technology 320 hundred million USD to sell to their batch of stocks, listing First Day can rise to 1000 hundred million USD. 如果发挥好一些,像谷歌这样,有可能牧野科技320亿美元卖给他们的这批股票,上市第一天就能涨到1000亿美元 Behind this is the big profit, enough Wall Street entire was demented. 这背后是多大的利润,足够华尔街整个癫狂了。 If this good drained Hong Kong from NASDAQ, that enough Wall Street these big shot too late for regrets. 如果这个利好从纳斯达克流失到了香港,那足够华尔街这些大佬后悔莫及了。 Hong Kong missed 'Alibaba' in the past, regrets for N years, but the 'Alibaba' mass compares with Muye Science and Technology, is no comparison between them simply. 香港当年错失了阿里巴巴,后悔n年,可是阿里巴巴的体量跟牧野科技比,简直不可同日而语。 Therefore, if Muye Science and Technology leaves NASDAQ, then goes on the market to Hong Kong, Wall Street will certainly suffer setbacks seriously. 所以,如果牧野科技离开纳斯达克,转而到香港上市,华尔街一定会严重受挫。 Moreover, if Li Mu decided that goes on the market in Hong Kong, he will invest the securities industry in Hong Kong immediately, simultaneously sets up the investment fund that the Hong Kong dollar settles accounts in Hong Kong, with the internet enterprise in Hong Kong dollar construction investment entire world, then with own gravitation, draws the enterprise that oneself invest to Hong Kong stock market completely goes on the market. 而且,如果李牧决定在香港上市,那他立刻就会在香港投资证券行业,同时在香港设立港币结算的投资基金,用港币架构投资全世界的互联网企业,然后用自己的万有引力,把自己投资的企业全部拉到港股上市。 If really achieves this point, perhaps NASDAQ will lose a large quantities of internet enterprise. 如果真做到这一点,纳斯达克恐怕将损失一大批互联网企业。 If Li Mu does a point, Wall Street will miss the internet super dividend certainly. 如果李牧做的绝一点,华尔街将错过互联网的超级红利。 Vinson heard Li Mu has the idea to go to Hong Kong stock market to go on the market, even changes the Lord credit corroborative, immediately nervous in a complete mess. 戴文森一听说李牧有想法去港股上市,甚至换主承销商,顿时慌的一塌糊涂。 As of late, his day passes satisfied incomparable, in the entire Jewish commercial circle, his position and right to speak is getting higher and higher, this is because he had reached the preliminary agreement with Li Mu, Li Mu ipo will apportion innumerable is waiting for eagerly the investor through him greatly only. 最近这段时间,他日子过的惬意无比,在整个犹太商圈,他的地位以及话语权越来越高,这就是因为他已经与李牧达成了初步协议,李牧ipo的大单将通过他来分给无数眼巴巴等着的投资者。 If Li Mu left to say with him at this time suddenly bye-bye, he was held high, is fallen miserably. 如果这时候李牧忽然抽身跟他说拜拜,那他被捧多高,就会被摔多惨。 Therefore his hastily said: Mr. Li, should not be angry, Wall Street that group of people like you said that is one group of village bosses and bad gentry, they were used to rampantly domineeringly, becomes greedy at the sight of money, what money wants to gain, do not lower oneself to the same level with them.” 于是他急忙道:“李先生,您千万不要太生气,华尔街那帮人就像您说的,就是一帮土豪劣绅,他们嚣张跋扈惯了,见钱眼开,什么钱都想赚一赚,您千万不要跟他们一般见识。” Almost is instantaneous, Vinson in the face of the benefit, betrayed his compatriot. 几乎是瞬间,戴文森就在利益面前,背叛了他的同胞。 Li Mu snort/hum smiles one, said: You help me with Wall Street this group of village bosses and bad gentry belt/bring words, the Muye Science and Technology ipo progress draw back files, no longer is the issue when considers to go on the market, but draws back to start to consider that in issue that which goes on the market.” 李牧哼笑一声,说:“你帮我跟华尔街这帮土豪劣绅带个话,牧野科技ipo的进度退一个档,不再是考虑什么时候上市的问题,而是退回去开始考虑在哪上市的问题。” Vinson voice has almost the entreaty: Chief Li, why you and this group of people lower oneself to the same level...... between us the cooperation are very happy!” 戴文森声音几乎带着哀求:“李总,您何必跟这帮人一般见识呢……我们之间的合作还是很愉快的嘛!” Li Mu is not convinced, said: Vinson, you can call telephoning me, showed that our beforehand cooperation are not happy, at least now starts is not happy, you have your ORIJEN (long for) to benefit, I have the pursue to my principle!” 李牧一点也不买账,道:“戴文森,你能给我打着通电话,就证明我们之前的合作并不愉快,起码现在开始不愉快了,你们有你们对利益的渴望,我也有对我原则的追求!” Then, Li Mu makes directly the telephone call, then said to Li Ziwei: Notice unit applies for the Yanjing route and takeoff clearance now, the earlier the better!” 说罢,李牧直接把电话挂掉,然后对李紫薇说:“通知机组现在申请回燕京的航线和起飞许可,越早越好!” Li Ziwei nods, immediately person in charge telephones to the unit. 李紫薇点点头,立刻给机组负责人打了个电话。 Confesses these things, Li Ziwei exploratory asking Li Mu: Chief Li, if offended the entire Wall Street, what in the future can have not good effect?” 交代完这些事情,李紫薇试探性的问李牧:“李总,如果得罪了整个华尔街,将来会不会有什么不好的影响?” „Not good effect?” Li Mu sneers saying: They are the from head to tail capitalists, before them, the benefit is higher than all, can bring the profit to them, even if rides their necks to draw the dysentery, cannot bring the profit to them, kneeling down to ask them is still useless.” “不好的影响?”李牧冷笑道:“他们才是彻头彻尾的资本家,在他们面前,利益高于一切,能给他们带来利润的,就算骑着他们的脖子拉痢疾都可以,不能给他们带来利润的,跪下求他们也没用。” Saying, Li Mu was also saying: awesome that too thinks Wall Street, the person who is short of money, feels Wall Street awesome, the truly rich person, who can take a liking to them.” 说着,李牧又道:“你不要把华尔街想的太牛逼了,只有缺钱的人,才觉得华尔街牛逼,真正有钱的人,谁瞧得上他们啊。” , Li Mu then said: I have seen through Wall Street this group so-calledbig shot and family andold 顿了顿,李牧接着说:“我早就看穿了华尔街这帮所谓的“大佬”、“家族”、“old money ”, looks at old awesome, upward several three Five Dynasties are the US (America) famous big rich and powerful people, but place the present, they really do not have that strong strength. ” money”,一个个看着牛逼了,往上数三五代都是美国有名的大富豪,可是放在现在,他们真没有那么强大的实力。” With Vinson, he is old “就拿戴文森来说,他是old in money family was top, entire family all assets calculate, hundred hundred million USD units, in hand governable cash, possibly does not have including ten hundred million USD. ” money家族里面的顶尖了,整个家族所有资产算进来,百亿美元的单位,手里可支配的现金,可能连十亿美元都没有。” „The remaining these, or are the stock and stock, either are large amount of assets and real estate, the stock of deadlocking, for example under their hands possibly has listed company 30% stocks, but this 30% stocks may not trade in principle, can only do to pawn.” “剩下的那些,要么是股票、股份、要么是大宗资产、不动产,很多还是锁死的股份,就比如他们手底下可能有一家上市公司30%的股份,但这30%的股份原则上不可交易,只能做做质押。” Moreover, such a huge family, just like the Ford families, three Five Dynasties people have not absolutely had family planning, cries for food to present direct line collateral branch several hundred over a thousand openings, really draws cash to do the matter, how many can he with obtaining comes?” “而且,这么庞大的一个家族,跟福特家族一样,三五代人完全没有过计划生育,到现在直系旁系几百上千口子嗷嗷待哺,真拿钱出来搞事情,他能拿得出多少来?” Therefore, one is one, insufficiently looks before me.” “所以,有一个算一个,在我面前都不够看的。” Li Ziwei hears here, cannot bear smile to make noise, said: Originally is this, before always heard that this family and that family, over a hundred years of history, done recluse everyone probably is often same.” 李紫薇听到这里,忍不住笑出声来,道:“原来是这样啊,以前老听说这个家族、那个家族的,动不动就上百年历史,搞的好像隐士大家一样。” Li Mu snort/hum smiles one: Returns the recluse on them? You have a look at Soros by the boasting of that folk myth, how much money does he have you to know?” 李牧哼笑一声:“就他们还隐士?你看看索罗斯被民间神话的那么牛皮,他有多少钱你知道吗?” „It is not quite clear.” Li Ziwei shakes the head. “不太清楚。”李紫薇摇了摇头。 Li Mu disdain said: This year in Forbes ranking, his credibility 70 hundred million USD.” 李牧不屑的说:“今年福布斯排行榜上,他的个人资产才70亿美元。” Are so few?” Li Ziwei somewhat is obviously surprised. “这么少?”李紫薇明显有些惊讶。 The Li Mu shame said with a smile: „Did the leader of so-called great alligator also 70 hundred million USD assets, what you say blind his mother Chinese zither?” 李牧耻笑道:“所谓巨鳄的头领也才不过70亿美元的资产啊,你说瞎他妈瑟什么?”
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