RINAPE :: Volume #14

#1400: Enormous confidence


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Martin Scorsese and Spielberg are two entirely different directors. 马丁・斯科塞斯与斯皮尔伯格是两个风格迥异的导演。 Pure on the movie art, Martin Scorsese wants Spielberg to be purer, but Spielberg is one of the Hollywood most successful commercial directors, by ability of money-making, above Martin Scorsese. 单纯就电影艺术来说,马丁・斯科塞斯要比斯皮尔伯格更纯粹一些,而斯皮尔伯格则是好莱坞最成功的商业导演之一,论赚钱的能力,远在马丁・斯科塞斯之上。 although two people style is different, but this does not hinder two people to have very good friendship in secret, therefore with Martin Scorsese discussed that meets to pat the US edition «Infernal Affairs» duty, naturally fell on Spielberg. 虽然两人风格不同,但这并不妨碍两人私下里有着非常好的交情,所以跟马丁・斯科塞斯讨论接拍美版《无间道》的任务,自然就落在了斯皮尔伯格身上。 When Spielberg specially cloud Sheng after at nightfall, gives Martin Scorsese to telephone, but telephone that side US (America) is in the morning, Martin Scorsese at the family/home of Los Angeles enjoys the coffee, while read the newspaper, suddenly received Spielberg's call, let his surprise. 斯皮尔伯格特意等到云省入夜之后才给马丁・斯科塞斯打电话,而电话那边的美国已经是早上,马丁・斯科塞斯正在洛杉矶的家中一边享用咖啡,一边品读报纸,忽然接到斯皮尔伯格的电话,让他诧异不已。 Connects the call, Martin Scorsese opens the mouth then to ask with a smile: Steven, should China be now the night?” 接通电话,马丁・斯科塞斯开口便笑着问道:“史蒂文,华夏现在应该是夜里了吧?” Right.” Spielberg said with a smile: Has the opportunity you really to come to here to experience, I photograph in the mountainous area, here natural scenery was really good.” “没错。”斯皮尔伯格笑道:“有机会你真该来这里体验一下,我在山区拍摄,这里的自然风景真的是太棒了。” Oh......” Martin Scorsese teased: My this old bones, do not toss about toward the mountainous area, I may not have you to be young.” “噢得了吧……”马丁・斯科塞斯打趣道:“我这把老骨头,还是不要往山区里折腾了,我可没有你年轻。” Spielberg said with a smile: Our two also missed four years old.” 斯皮尔伯格笑道:“咱们两个也就差了四岁而已。” Martin Scorsese shows a faint smile, asked him: Is away from half Earth to call me, should you not want to ask me to chat?” 马丁・斯科塞斯微微一笑,问他:“隔着半个地球给我打电话,你应该不会只是想找我聊聊天吧?” Spielberg said: To be honest with you, I telephoned, had a project to want with you to work.” 斯皮尔伯格说:“不瞒你说,我打电话过来,是有个项目想跟你合作。” Oh?” Martin Scorsese's curious asking: Is and movie related?” “噢?”马丁・斯科塞斯好奇的问道:“是和电影相关的吗?” Naturally.” Spielberg said: Muye Science and Technology boss Li Mu bought " Infernal Affairs » rescreening power from Warner, wants to ask you to direct.” “当然。”斯皮尔伯格说:“牧野科技的老板李牧从华纳手里买下了《无间道》的翻拍权,想请你来执导。” Martin Scorsese's surprised asking: Li Mu? My God, is that young on China person Li Mu of trillion net worth?” 马丁・斯科塞斯惊讶的问:“李牧?我的天,就是那个年纪轻轻就亿万身家的华夏李牧?” Right, is he.” Spielberg said with a smile: You should know, we cooperate with Li Mu's are quite close, the movie that I am making now is also the Li Mu investment.” “没错,就是他。”斯皮尔伯格笑道:“你应该知道,我们跟李牧的合作还是比较密切的,我现在正在拍的电影也是李牧投资的。” I know, «Flying Tigers»!” Martin Scorsese said: I also listened to others to mention yesterday, said that was Warner 175 ten thousand USD bought a rescreening power of Hong Kong movie, finally in a while, was bought by the double prices, should be that «Infernal Affairs» that you said?” “我知道,《飞虎队》嘛!”马丁・斯科塞斯说:“我昨天也听别人说起过,说是华纳175万美元买了一部香港电影的翻拍权,结果没过多久,就被人以双倍的价格买回去了,应该就是你说的那部《无间道》了吧?” Spielberg said with a laugh: Your news is very miraculous, right, is this movie, Li Mu wants to invest the release with DreamWorks, doesn't know you interested?” 斯皮尔伯格笑着说:“你的消息还挺灵光,没错,就是这部片子,李牧想和梦工厂一起投资发行,不知道你有没有兴趣?” Martin Scorsese said: Was honest, can work I naturally to be interested with Li Mu such person, but I in rescreening the movie was not interested very much, moreover rescreened a China movie, their movie industry level be worse than us......” 马丁・斯科塞斯说:“坦白讲,能跟李牧这样的人合作我当然是非常感兴趣的,但我对翻拍电影不是很感兴趣,况且还是翻拍一部华夏电影,他们的电影工业水平要比我们差很多吧……” Spielberg asked that Martin Scorsese said: „Has Martin, you watched this movie?” 斯皮尔伯格问马丁・斯科塞斯道:“马丁,你看过这部电影吗?” Also no.” “还没有。” You first have a look.” Spielberg said: You find a time first to have a look, to feel, the theme of this movie is a gangster movie, moreover establishes loses face/shows off, I believe that you will certainly like.” “那你先看看。”斯皮尔伯格说:“你抽点时间先看看,感觉一下,这部电影的题材是警匪片,而且设定非常出彩,我相信你一定会喜欢的。” Martin Scorsese ponders over the moment, said: This...... I am actually arranging a movie project now, about Howard Hughes, if arranges smoothly, possibly next year must begin shooting, possibly will the time have the conflict?” 马丁・斯科塞斯思忖片刻,说:“这个……我现在其实正在筹备一个电影项目,是关于霍华德・休斯的,如果筹备顺利,可能明年就要开拍,可能时间上会有冲突吧?” Spielberg said: Martin, will first put Howard Hughes in the future, when his story you pat, but the Li Mu's partnership opportunity on the swayed in your at present, you should also know now, cooperates to obtain a lot of powerful resources with Li Mu, this is a golden good opportunity, if you do not believe that has a look at Muye ticket system, DreamWorks accounts for the stock in Muye ticket system of North America, these in cooperates after Li Mu, obtains the resources that from Li Mu there.” 斯皮尔伯格说道:“马丁,把霍华德・休斯先往后放一放吧,他的故事你什么时候拍都可以,但是李牧的合作机会现在就摆在你的眼前,你应该也知道,跟李牧合作能够获得很多强大的资源,这是一个绝佳的好机会,如果你不信,看看牧野票务系统,梦工厂在北美的牧野票务系统中是占股份的,这些都是在和李牧合作之后,从李牧那里得到的资源。” Martin Scorsese falls into all of a sudden intertwines, the movie about Howard Hughes, he has actually wanted to shoot, this period of time is in the preparation to be put into practice the early stage the theory, if met to make the Li Mu's movie at this time, that must postpone movie that oneself want to shoot without doubt in the future. 马丁・斯科塞斯一下子陷入纠结,关于霍华德・休斯的电影,其实他早就想拍了,这段时间正处于准备将理论付诸实践的早期阶段,如果这时候接拍李牧的电影,那无疑要把自己想拍的片子往后推迟。 However, Spielberg said also right, the Li Mu's resources are powerful, even Buffett and Bill Gates such top rich and powerful people, are still not necessarily able to compare favorably with Li Mu in the resources of media and entertainment industry, if can establish the relations with him, in the future can obtain very big resources return inevitably, therefore this absolutely is a rare good opportunity. 但是,斯皮尔伯格说的也没错,李牧的资源强大,就算是巴菲特和比尔盖茨这样的顶尖富豪,在传媒和娱乐行业的资源也未必能比得上李牧,如果能跟他搭上关系,将来必然能得到很大的资源回报,所以这绝对是一个难得的好机会。 However, Martin Scorsese to rescreening a Hong Kong movie, feels some slightly obstructions, because he worried that this is Li Mu as a China person, moreover is a rich China person, puts up the cash intentionally is the China movie attacks Hollywood the movie project of arrangement, if so, oneself will degenerate into the China movie to march the Hollywood springboard, he is also Hollywood over successful director, if is really the self-destruction reputation , helping the China movie endorsement, that future feared that is must be ridiculed by Hollywood unavoidably...... 不过,马丁・斯科塞斯心里还是对翻拍一部香港电影,感觉略微有些芥蒂,因为他担心这是李牧作为一个华夏人,而且是一个有钱的华夏人,故意砸钱为华夏电影冲击好莱坞而筹备的电影项目,如果是这样的话,那自己就会沦为华夏电影进军好莱坞的跳板,他好歹也是好莱坞超一线大导演,如果真是自毁名声、去帮华夏电影背书,那将来怕是免不了要被好莱坞嘲笑…… Listens to Martin Scorsese of telephone that head not to reply, Spielberg understands that probably he is worried about anything, therefore he said: Martin, I do not urge you to comply now, but is hopes that you can put aside the prejudice to understand this cooperation project, at least, you should look for «Infernal Affairs» copy, watches from beginning to end this movie, I felt, this movie is suitable you to direct, moreover I believe that by your ability, can create a new altitude for this movie, can create a new altitude through this movie for yourself, therefore you must first look, after looking, if you are not really interested, I am not many do to demand.” 听着电话那头的马丁・斯科塞斯迟迟没有回复,斯皮尔伯格心里大概明白他在担心什么,于是他说:“马丁,我不是劝你现在就答应,而是希望你能够放下成见去了解一下这个合作项目,最起码,你应该找一份《无间道》的copy,把这部电影从头到尾看一遍,我个人觉得,这部电影非常适合你来执导,而且我相信以你的能力,能够为这部电影创造一个新高度,也能够通过这部电影为你自己创造一个新高度,所以你务必先看一遍,看完之后,如果你真不感兴趣,我也不多做强求。” Martin Scorsese thinks, Spielberg said that if oneself also hesitant really does not make sense, therefore he then complies, said: I look for copy to look today.” 马丁・斯科塞斯一想,斯皮尔伯格都这么说了,如果自己还犹犹豫豫的实在不像话,于是他便答应下来,道:“我今天就去找一份copy看一看。” Spielberg said: This movie has not distributed dvd in US (America), but several big film companies including Warner should have copy that Hong Kong Film Company gives, you can ask them to borrow.” 斯皮尔伯格说:“这部电影还没在美国发行过dvd,不过包括华纳在内的几家大电影公司应该都有香港电影公司给的copy,你可以找他们借一下。” Ok.” Martin Scorsese said: I telephone later, first watched this movie as soon as possible.” “ok。”马丁・斯科塞斯说:“我待会就打个电话,尽快先把这部电影看了。” ...... …… Martin Scorsese attains the copy time, is 9 : 00 pm of US (America) time. 马丁・斯科塞斯拿到拷贝的时候,是美国时间的晚上 9 点。 He telephones to a cooperation close film company seeks, the relevant staff of opposite party looked for a talent in the storehouse in a common corner, found port version «Infernal Affairs» copy. 他打电话向一家合作密切的电影公司寻找,对方的相关工作人员在库房找了一天才在一个不起眼的角落里,找到了港版《无间道》的copy。 Afterward Martin Scorsese sends oneself assistant to drive to bridge over entire Hollywood, brought back this copy from the opposite party company, then bridged over entire Hollywood to deliver to own hand. 随后马丁・斯科塞斯派自己的助理驱车跨过整个好莱坞,从对方公司取回了这份copy,然后又跨过整个好莱坞送到了自己的手里。 At this time, is the next morning of China time, Muye Pictures from Yanjing to dvd that Spielberg mails out, after the Taobao 9 logistics express transports/fortunes specially, the spatial revolution land transportation, only used less than 24 hours to deliver to Spielberg's hand. 这个时候,是华夏时间的翌日上午,牧野映象燕京给斯皮尔伯格寄出的dvd,经过淘宝九物流的特快专运,空运转陆运,仅用了不到24个小时就送到了斯皮尔伯格的手里。 Today's shooting location bad weather, must photograph the pilots in the outdoor scene of airstrip, the light rain that result lightly drainings starting from early morning, meaning that do not stop. 恰好今天的拍摄地天公不作美,原本要拍摄飞行员们在简易机场的外景,结果一场淅沥沥的小雨从清晨开始下,一直没有要停下来的意思。 Entire dramatic team then breathing place rest waiting near shooting location. 整个剧组便在拍摄地附近的休息处休息等待。 Spielberg looked this rain cannot stop for a short time, then to being responsible for overcoming deputy director of hand Ning Hao saying: peaceful, the morning photography looked like malingered, you helped me inform everyone, the staff same place rest standby, the actor can first return to the hotel to rest.” 斯皮尔伯格一看这雨一时半会也停不下来,便对负责打下手的副导演宁昊说道:“宁,上午的拍摄看来是泡汤了,你帮我通知大家,工作人员原地休息待命,演员可以先回宾馆休息。” Ning Hao nods, hastily told. 宁昊点点头,急忙去吩咐了。 Spielberg then greeted Leonardo and Tom Hanks, to two humanity: All right do the words, go to my office to watch the section movie together?” 斯皮尔伯格便招呼莱昂纳多和汤姆・汉克斯,对两人道:“没什么事儿的话,一起去我的办公室看部电影吧?” The dramatic team wrapped half county party committee boarding house in this small county city situated in mountainous area, the condition was limited, even if so, vacated several rooms to give the dramatic team to make the office to use, the dramatic team met, director to examine the piece, in the office, Spielberg still had his independent office, inside had excellent facilities. 剧组在这个位于山区的小县城包下了半个县委招待所,条件有限,不过即便如此,还是腾出几个房间来给剧组做办公室用,剧组开会、导演审片、都在办公室进行,斯皮尔伯格也有一个自己的独立办公室,里面设备齐全。 Leonardo and Tom Hanks do not know why Spielberg must make two people go to the office to watch the movie, but knows that at Spielberg's specialized degree, certainly is not the rest and recreation, is inevitably related with the work, therefore two people then comply without hesitation. 莱昂纳多和汤姆・汉克斯不知道斯皮尔伯格为什么要让两人去办公室看电影,但知道以斯皮尔伯格的专业程度,一定不会是休闲娱乐,必然跟工作有关,于是两人便毫不犹豫的答应下来。 When Spielberg and Leonardo as well as Tom Hanks come to the office, just attained that copy in US (America) Hollywood Martin Scorsese, he takes the copy to arrive at the underground of villa, here has a projection room that he makes specially, inside used showing and acoustic equipment of high-end theater completely, to his successful director, only then watches the movie like this, most has the feeling. 当斯皮尔伯格和莱昂纳多以及汤姆・汉克斯来到办公室的时候,远在美国好莱坞的马丁・斯科塞斯也刚拿到那份拷贝,他拿着拷贝来到自家别墅的地下,这里有他专门做出来的一个放映室,里面完全采用了高端影院的放映以及音响设备,对他这个大导演来说,只有这样看电影,才最有感觉。 However, is in cloud Sheng mountainous area county party committee boarding house the Spielberg three people , the condition is much cruder, can only depend on not a big specialized monitor, as well as dvd watches this movie. 不过,身在云省山区县委招待所的斯皮尔伯格三人,条件就简陋得多,只能靠着一台不大的专业显示器,以及一台dvd来观看这部影片。 Martin Scorsese has not looked at «Infernal Affairs», even had not understood this movie, his body has the common problem of many Director Hollywood and actor, always feels the world's best movie and movie workers in Hollywood, therefore to non- Hollywood the movie and staff instinct has a not being able to take a liking feeling. 马丁・斯科塞斯还从来没有看过《无间道》,甚至都没有了解过这部电影,他身上有许多好莱坞导演、演员的通病,总是觉得世界上最好的电影以及电影工作者都在好莱坞,所以对非好莱坞的电影以及工作人员本能有一种瞧不上的感觉。 Leonardo and Tom Hanks have not watched this movie, when dvd broadcasts the Pan- Asian film title, two people saw on the screen presents the China writing time, in abundance surprise asking Spielberg: „Is this China movie?” 莱昂纳多和汤姆・汉克斯也没看过这部电影,当dvd播放环亚片头的时候,两人看到屏幕上出现华夏文字的时候,纷纷诧异的问斯皮尔伯格:“这是一部华夏电影?” Spielberg nods, said: Right, you regard yourselves the audience, has a look at this movie carefully, has any comment and idea, we looked that chatted again.” 斯皮尔伯格点点头,说:“没错,你们把自己当成观众,仔细看看这部电影,有任何意见和想法,我们看完再聊。” Two people nod to comply in abundance. 两人纷纷点头答应下来。 The «Infernal Affairs» film title contained massive Buddhism factors, this point let was in US (America) Martin Scorsese, was in China Leonardo and Tom Hanks is not interested very much, therefore three people of some interests were from the beginning dull. 无间道》的片头包含了大量的佛教因素,这一点让无论是身在美国的马丁・斯科塞斯,还是身在华夏的莱昂纳多和汤姆・汉克斯都不是很感兴趣,所以一开始三人都有些兴趣索然。 But the introduction comes up, the head of underground society who once Zhiwei acted appeared in the temple, made in three will of the people feel disappointed. 而开篇一上来,曾志韦扮演的黑老大出现在寺庙里,也让三人心里倍感失望。 The westerners are the Christians, although is not to the religious fanaticism, but is quite firm to own belief, moreover Western culture powerful to the eastern world output already long time, the Oriental has been used to see the church, idol and father in the European and US film and television play, even knew the detail about Christianity, but the Eastern culture outputs to the West always weak, the westerner sees the Buddhism content in the film and television play, is actually not convinced at heart very much, even some resistance. 西方人多是基督徒,虽不是对宗教狂热,但对自己的信仰都比较坚定,而且西方文化强力向东方世界输出已经很长时间了,以至于东方人早就习惯了在欧美影视剧里看到教堂、神像、神父,甚至知道了许多关于基督教的细节,但东方文化向西方输出一向疲软,西方人在影视剧里看到佛教内容,心里其实是很不买账,甚至有些抵触情绪的。 However is good because of three people of abilities the temper is also continue look. 不过好在三人还能耐着性子继续看下去。 When once Zhiwei said in front of the lens wishes his several little brothers when the police section was problem-free, three people of suddenly sitting cannot help but straight body. 而当曾志韦在镜头前说出祝他的几位小弟在警察部一帆风顺的时候,三人忽然都不由自主的坐直了身体。 Does the underworld gang feed in police system unexpectedly? A little meaning! 黑道竟然把人送进警察系统里?有点意思了! Three people who didn't expect, just felt that a little meaning, they start gradually to be attracted by this movie, just like before Li Mu, gives the Li Ziwei analysis such, " Infernal Affairs » core setting is the talent level, before is, all film-makers have not thought that fused A kinds of plot, a Boss kind of plot as well as A Boss kind of plot «Infernal Affairs» makes everyone at present one bright sufficiently! 三人谁也没想到,刚感觉到有点意思,他们就开始被这部电影逐渐吸引,正如李牧之前给李紫薇分析的那样,《无间道》的核心设定是天才级的,是之前所有的电影人都没有想到的,融合了a类剧情、b类剧情以及ab类剧情的《无间道》足以让所有人眼前一亮! After experiencing began 2-3 minutes of senseless and contradiction , a behind about 100 minutes of movie, these three people look look at steadily, extremely investment! 在经历了开头2-3分钟的无趣和抵触之后,后面将近一百分钟的电影,这三人都看得目不转睛,极其投入! Chen Yongren who when Liang Chaowei plays in the elevator was gunned down suddenly, these three people thoroughly are shocked, they never think, a Chinese criminal syndicate movie, can be so splendid unexpectedly! 而当梁朝韦饰演的陈永仁在电梯里忽然被枪杀的时候,这三人均被彻底震撼住了,他们从未想到,一部华语黑帮电影,竟然也可以这么精彩! Martin Scorsese when sees this, the heart deep place is deeply amazed, although is not willing to acknowledge greatly, but this movie really may be called the god do! The setting and exquisite plot of main line gave his enormous confidence! He believes that if oneself bring to conduct Hollywood such talent setting, certainly can become a classical Hollywood criminal syndicate big piece! 马丁・斯科塞斯在看到这一幕的时候,内心深处深受震撼,虽然不大愿意承认,但这部电影真的堪称神作!主线的设定以及精妙的剧情都给了他极大的信心!他相信,如果自己把这样的天才设定拿过来进行好莱坞化,一定能成为一部经典的好莱坞黑帮大片!
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