RINAPE :: Volume #13

#1232: Veterans Don't Die


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Veterans Don't Die?” 老兵不死?” Wei Lan hears this phrase for the first time, brings asking of several points of surprise: „Do you prepare to make the charity event of nationwide scale it?” 蔚澜第一次听到这个词组,带着几分诧异的问道:“你是准备把它做成全国范围的慈善活动?” Li Mu nods, said: In US (America) I have mentioned with you, US (America) social for several hundred years have been very stable . Moreover the welfare systems are quite relatively perfect, therefore the veteran of their second war basically had the quite appropriate placement, but our China situation was quite special, after the fighting ended, following close on is being several years of war of liberation, taking turn of two political power, many issues certainly could not take into consideration, If nothing else, was the household register statistics on is very difficult to improve, afterward one after another had various movements, does not know how many had fighting veteran in post-war to return home, these person was extremely possible to scatter in the villages village all over the country., Now these veterans who in addition are also alive, are not necessarily able to cross very well.” 李牧点了点头,说:“在美国的时候我跟你说起过,美国的社会几百年来一直很稳定,而且福利制度相对比较完善,所以他们二战的老兵基本上都有比较妥当的安置,但是咱们华夏情况比较特殊,抗战结束之后,紧跟着又是几年解放战争,这其中两个政权的交替,许多问题一定是顾及不到的,别的不说,光是户籍统计就很难完善,后来又接二连三的有各种运动,不知道有多少抗战老兵在战后返乡,这些人极可能散落在天南海北的乡镇村落,现在还尚且在世的那些老兵,未必都能过得很好。” The Wei Lan earnest pondering over moment, said to Li Mu: I understand your meaning, truly possibly has tens of thousands of fighting veterans to get by difficultly, but you want to seek for these not to have the official record, not to have the veteran of material evidence across the country, this work load was too vast, if thinks the fast efficient development work, must the huge team support.” 蔚澜认真的思忖片刻,对李牧说道:“我明白你的意思,也确实可能有成千上万的抗战老兵正在艰难度日,不过你想要在全国范围内寻找那些没有官方记载、没有资料佐证的老兵,这个工作量太浩大了,如果想快速高效的开展工作,就必须有一支庞大的团队支撑。” Right.” Li Mu sighed: „The biggest problem is the team . Moreover the operation mode of this team must select the method of volunteer, otherwise, this public welfare activities are very difficult to do truly.” “没错。”李牧感叹说:“最大的问题就是团队,而且这个团队的运作模式一定要采用志愿者的方式,否则的话,这个公益活动很难真正做下去。” Saying, Li Mu is explaining: Makes this public welfare, person who must make these truly have the public spirit participates, purely by paying out the wages incurs the way of staff to make the public welfare, can only have a strong beginning but a weak ending, therefore I plan to make a plan of public welfare propaganda initially , as well as carries out the plan including this public welfare activities slogan and localization, then our looks for an operation talent who understands the propaganda, making him come to promote our public welfare plans to the whole society, recruits the volunteer, while to whole society gather information, if can have at least ten people of volunteer teams in each prefectural-level city, that our future. The work was good to launch.” 说着,李牧解释道:“做这种公益,一定要让那些真正有公益心的人参与进来,单纯靠发工资招员工的方式去做公益,只能是虎头蛇尾,所以我初步计划是制定一个公益宣传的方案,包括这场公益活动的口号、定位、以及执行方案,然后我们的找一个懂宣传的运营人才,让他来向全社会推广我们的公益方案,一边招募志愿者,一边向全社会收集信息,如果能在每一个地级市都有一支至少十人的志愿者团队,那我们将来的工作就非常好展开了。” Wei Lan asked: If the volunteer had, then following carries out the flow specifically? How to find the veteran, how found later to confirm, confirmed, how to rescue, have these you thought?” 蔚澜问:“如果志愿者有了,那么接下来的具体执行流程呢?怎么找到老兵,找到之后怎么确认,确认之后怎么救助,这些你想过吗?” Li Mu nods, said: Has thought that found the veteran to have two ways, one is we issues the information to the whole society, the family member, friend and neighbor veteran as well as veteran, can have the contact with us, then we send the volunteer to go to verify ; Another type is our driving seeking from one point to entire area, for example we determined a veteran status, then through him, understood his the information of situation and ally of designation and fight of past army, then followed the clue to look for more survival veterans unceasingly.” 李牧点了点头,说:“想过,找到老兵有两种方式,一个是我们面向全社会发布信息,老兵以及老兵的家属、朋友、邻居,都可以跟我们取得联系,然后我们派志愿者前去核实;另一种就是我们由点到面的主动寻找,比如我们确定了一位老兵身份,然后通过他,来了解他当年部队的番号、战斗的情况、战友的信息,然后再顺着线索不断寻找更多的幸存老兵。” How as to rescue, temporarily what this I think, I, Muye Science and Technology, Taobao Science and Technology as well as Alipay, the joint contribution establish the fund of caring for the fighting veteran, the start fund establishes provisionally that is 100 million Yuan RMB, then we manufacture some to move the publicity material of person , to promote through various types of channels, the attraction society pays attention and to make the show. Does a similar subject again the charity dinner, inviting some entrepreneurs and stars to participate, then appealed that they came to donate money.” “至于怎么救助,这个我暂时想的是,我自己、牧野科技淘宝科技以及支付宝,共同出资来成立一个关爱抗战老兵的基金,起步资金暂定为一亿元人民币,然后我们制作一些能够打动人的宣传资料,通过各种渠道进行推广,吸引社会关注、把声势造起来。再搞一个同样主题的慈善晚宴,邀请一些企业家、明星参与,然后呼吁他们来进行捐款。” At this point, Li Mu smiles helplessly, said: Actually you also know, many celebrities and entrepreneurs make the charity, the fundamental motive to trade a good fame, they to decide premise whether donates money, is this matter, or this was donated the person to have certain social influence, if influential, donation that many people can come in swarms, without the influence, possibly these people looked that continually is disinclined to look at one, therefore wants to let donating money that they are willing, must first let this public welfare project fire.” 说到这里,李牧无奈一笑,说:“其实你也知道,很多名人、企业家做慈善,根本动机是为了换一个好名气,他们决定是否捐款的前提,是这件事,或者这个被捐助人有没有产生一定的社会影响力,如果有影响力,很多人都会蜂拥而至的捐款,如果没有影响力,可能这些人连看都懒得看一眼,所以想让他们心甘情愿的捐钱,必须先让这个公益项目火起来。” The Li Mu later generation has seen too many such things, particularly on Weibo (Micro Blog), runs into the difficult person to send the seeking help information on Weibo (Micro Blog), some were fried the hot person by the media occasionally, immediately one large quantities of big V will brave the statement and donation, looks like in Li Mu, has a large number to collect the heat degree to come. 李牧后世见过太多这样的事情,尤其是在微博上,许多遇到困难的人在微博上发求助信息,这其中偶有一些被媒体炒热的人,立刻就会有一大批大v冒出来表态、捐款,在李牧看来,这其中有相当一部分就是凑热度来的。 Therefore, wants to make them disburse money, must first make the project have the sufficient heat degree. 所以,想让他们出钱,首先就得让项目具有足够热度。 The later generation has some stars to establish own charitable foundation, because of star's influence, therefore attracts a large numbers of celebrity, star and entrepreneur to donate money, similarly also infects a large numbers of general public to donate money, Li Mu felt own present social influence, surpassed any star, if initiate such project, should be able to transfer the donation heat degree of whole society. 后世有一些明星成立自己的慈善基金,因为明星本身的影响力,所以吸引一大批名人、明星、企业家纷纷捐款,同样也感染一大批普通民众进行捐款,李牧觉得自己现在的社会影响力,超过了任何一个明星,所以如果自己来发起这样的项目,应该可以把全社会的捐款热度都调动起来。 Therefore, Li Mu also said: We can also open an open account again, to the whole society fund-raising, everyone can donate money to this account, ten eight and three five, even two, so long as everyone is willing to donate money, to this public welfare career helpful.” 于是,李牧又道:“我们还可以再开设一个公开账户,面向全社会募捐,大家都可以向这个账户里捐款,十块八块、三块五块,甚至一块两块都可以,只要大家都愿意捐款,对这件公益事业就有帮助。” „The operation of bank transfer is quite relatively troublesome.” Wei Lan said: Many people are are not not willing to donate money actually, is the donation flow is a little troublesome, I go to school, has contributed several to the Project Hope, every wants to go to the bank to line up one time, fills in the money order, goes for one basic few hour later, is very troublesome.” “银行汇款的操作相对比较麻烦吧。”蔚澜说:“很多人其实不是不愿意捐款,就是捐款的流程有点麻烦,我上学的时候,给希望工程捐过几次款,每一次都要自己去银行排队,填汇款单,去一趟基本没几个小时下不来,很麻烦。” Li Mu patted the forehead, said: Many reminded thanks to you, my didn't expect this issue.” 李牧拍了拍脑门,道:“多亏你提醒,我都没想到这个问题。” Saying, Li Mu was saying: Actually this is very easy to be solved, I can go with the motion and link such operator cooperation , to promote a message donation channel, the mobile phone user, so long as transmits the donation amount to assigning the number, can deduct some expenses from the phone bill directly, when the time comes makes the operator settle accounts with us again regularly.” 说着,李牧道:“其实这个很容易解决,我可以去跟移动、联通这样的运营商合作,推出一个短信捐款渠道,手机用户只要发送捐款数额到指定的号码,就可以直接从话费里扣除这部分费用,到时候再定期让运营商跟我们结算就可以。” Meanwhile, my Alipay can also clear this service, opens a special Alipay account to the foundation, all Alipay users can donate money to this Alipay account, these two methods should to be much more convenient than the bank transfer account transfer.” “同时,我的支付宝也可以开通这项服务,给基金会开设一个专门的支付宝账户,所有支付宝用户都可以向这个支付宝账户里面捐款,这两种方法应该要比银行汇款转账方便得多。” Wei Lan acclaimed one: Finds out so many great ideas all of a sudden, I thought that your public welfare project can certainly do truly.” 蔚澜赞叹一声:“一下子就想出这么多好主意,我觉得你这个公益项目一定能够真正做起来。” Then, Wei Lan also asked Li Mu: You had not said, what aid of you do prepare to confirmation status the veteran?” 说完,蔚澜又问李牧:“你还没说,你准备给确认身份的老兵什么样的援助?” Li Mu recalled previous life had understood the related information, as if there is authoritative organization to make the statistics in 2013, at that time the veteran quantity of national survival should be about the 20,000 person, then the present range in 2013 will have ten years, the veteran number should in 3- 40,000 people. 李牧回想了一下自己上辈子了解过的相关资料,似乎在2013年的时候有权威机构做出过统计,那个时候全国幸存的老兵数量应该是两万人左右,那么现在距离2013年还有十年,老兵数量应该在三-4万人之间。 These 3- in 40,000 people, not everyone needs to rescue, by Li Mu once understood that crosses the situation, in the People's Liberation Army veterans, does not have the political mistake, has not had the ingredient issue basically by good of very national attendance, another part will receive the veterans of various movement persecution now possibly is quite long ago difficult, in addition, kept the national troops veteran in mainland, possibly did not have the opportunity to enjoy with the People's Liberation Army veteran same treatment. 这三-4万人中,并不是所有人都需要救助,以李牧曾经了解过得情况,人民解放军老兵中,没出过政治错误、没有成分问题的基本上都被国家照顾的很好,另外一部分受到早些年各种运动迫害的老兵现在可能会比较困难,除此之外,还有一些留在大陆的国军老兵,可能没有机会享受到和解放军老兵一样的待遇。 However looks at these veterans with the Hyundai / modern vision, which army regardless of comes, they had once bled for this nationality in the Sino-Japanese War, so long as such veteran is also alive now, so long as he has the difficulty, must render the assistance. 不过用现代的眼光去看这些老兵,无论出身哪个部队,他们都曾经在抗日战争中为这个民族流过血,这样的老兵只要现在还在世、只要他有困难,就必须要给予帮助。 Thinks so, the person who it is estimated that needs to rescue has almost about the 20,000 person. 这么看下来,估计需要救助的人有差不多两万人左右。 Li Mu does not know that currently has the minimum assurance policy, does not know the minimum assurance standard, therefore then asked Wei Lan: „Do you know how many present farmer average annuals are?” 李牧不知道目前有没有低保政策,也不知道低保标准,于是便问蔚澜:“你知不知道现在的农民平均年收入是多少?” Wei Lan thinks, said: Before has watched the report, should be more than 2000, cities more than 5000.” 蔚澜想了想,道:“之前看过报道,应该是两千多一点吧,城镇五千多一点。” Li Mu slight nod, saying looking pensive: Supposed the veteran who we must rescue for a long time has the 20,000 person, everyone defers to the rural annual per-capita income to subsidize, then needs probably four 50 million every year, hundred million comes out with one, can support for two years.” 李牧微微点头,若有所思的说道:“假设我们要长期救助的老兵有两万人,每人都按照农村人均年收入进行补贴,那么每年就需要大概四五千万,拿一个亿出来的话,能够支撑两年。” Wei Lan said: „A year four 50 million words, this expenses are truly big, moreover currently speaking, the saving world number of veteran gradually reduces, but the entire aid cycle will calculate from the present also about 20 years, therefore you will want temperate, making the charity must leave certain space to oneself, will prohibit taking responsibility on oneself, if you will take responsibility on oneself, not only this project you must shoulder, if in the future the society will have other charitable demands, the people will perhaps also conduct moral kidnapping, to make you shoulder to you, your task will be when the time comes getting more and more heavy.” 蔚澜说:“一年四五千万的话,这个开销确实很大,而且就目前来看,老兵的存世数量是逐渐减少,但整个援助周期从现在算也会在二十年左右,所以你一定要有节制,做慈善要给自己留一定的空间,切忌大包大揽,如果你大包大揽,不只是这个项目你要扛到底,将来社会如果有其他慈善需求,民众恐怕也会对你进行道德绑架、让你扛到底,到时候你身上的担子就会越来越重。” Saying, Wei Lan sits cross-legged to sit in front of Li Mu, breaking off the finger is being said: I first calculate that to you your project needs how much money probably. You looked, we first determine several data probably, temporarily decides as 20 years the cycle, supposed that the first year invests 50 million, the last year throws A to enter 5 million, middle these 18 years drop in the uniform speed, then add together to be equal to 55 million from beginning to end, 55 million are multiplied by 10, rough calculation, this project altogether needs five hundred million 50 million about funds.” 说着,蔚澜盘腿坐在李牧面前,掰着手指头算道:“我先给你算算你这个项目大概需要多少钱。你看,我们先把几个数据大概确定一下,暂时把周期定为二十年,假设第一年投入5000万,最后一年投a入500万,中间这18年都在匀速下降,那么就是头尾相加等于5500万,5500万乘以十,粗略的算,这个项目总共需要五亿五千万左右的资金。” Li Mu stunned looks at face earnest Wei Lan, asked her: How you calculate, I do not seem to understand what is heard......” 李牧错愕的看着一脸认真的蔚澜,问她:“你是怎么算出来的,我好像没听明白……” Wei Lan shows a faint smile, said: The person who makes the project can select the cost accounting, therefore the math is good. I test your issue, do you know that 1 adds 2 to add 3, how many have added to 100 to be equal to?” 蔚澜微微一笑,说:“做工程的人都会点成本核算,所以数学都还算不错。我考你一个问题,你知不知道一加二加三,一直加到100等于多少?” Li Mu shakes the head: Gives me a calculator, or gives me the stage computer, I run a code, either drew excel to make a summation to calculate again, doing mental arithmetic probably unable to calculate.” 李牧摇摇头:“给我个计算器,或者给我台电脑,我跑个代码,或者拉个excel再做个求和就能算出来了,心算可算不出来。” Wei Lan said with a smile: What always do not make to use the thought of programmer, you looked, from 1 has added to 100, altogether is 100 integers, moreover their increasing rules are unified, is in addition 1, adds 1, to add 1, therefore we add together the conclusion, 1 + 100 were equal to that 101,2 + 99 were also equal to 101,3 + 97 are also equal to 101, to 50 + 51 is still equal to 101, then in this altogether is how many such adding together from beginning to end are equal to 101 combinations?” 蔚澜笑道:“你不要总是做什么都用程序员的思维嘛,你看,从一一直加到100,一共是100个数,而且它们的递增规律是统一的,都是加一、加一、加一,所以我们把收尾相加,1+100等于101,2+99也等于101,3+97还等于101,一直到50+51依旧等于101,那么这里面一共是多少个这样的头尾相加等于101的组合呢?” Li Mu at present one bright, takes off/escapes the tastes: Group 50! I knew, therefore from 1 adds to 100, the final outcome is 101 is multiplied by 50, is 5050, right?” 李牧眼前一亮,脱口道:“50组!我知道了,所以从一加到100,最终结果是101乘以50,也就是5050,对吗?” Wei Lan bent down to kiss one on the Li Mu face, said: Really intelligent!” 蔚澜俯身在李牧脸上亲了一口,称赞道:“真聪明!” Li Mu said with a laugh: Intelligent person is you are not I! Your this means computation was really scientific! Please accept my knee!” 李牧笑着说:“聪明的人是你不是我!你这种办法计算实在是太科学了!请收下我的膝盖!”
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