RINAPE :: Volume #12

#1136: National sense of belonging


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On dining table altogether four people, besides Li Mu entire startled. 饭桌上一共四个人,除了李牧之外全惊了。 Li Mu these words are not truly able to describe to three people of bringing shock, Li Mu is willing to take, to give for nothing 20% stocks and to the investments unexpectedly, guaranteeing a minimum Muying Ticket System to guarantee that the opposite party is not in arrears, leaves himself all risks, but this all all, but to let the partner makes the movie to China! 李牧这一席话给三人带来的震惊确实无法描述,李牧竟然愿意把牧影票务系统拿出来、白给20%的股份、给投资、给保底保证对方不亏钱、把所有的风险留给自己,而这所有一切的一切,只是为了让合作方到华夏来拍电影! The guest startled dumbfoundedness of let alone two US (America) come, Brother Liu surprise could not speak. 别说两个美国来的客人惊的目瞪口呆,就连刘师兄都诧异的说不出话来。 He understands Li Mu's, he knows that Li Mu has the unusual sense of mission to the country and to the nation, this point grasps the performance and to speak on Harvard from him from him to look fervently, but, his didn't expect Li Mu unexpectedly for the China image and the influence and for China film and television industry the considerable development of around the world national flag, is willing to sacrifice a merchant most fundamental goal: Profit. 他是了解李牧的,他知道李牧对国家、对民族有着非同一般的使命感,这一点从他在哈佛手持国旗的表现、从他慷慨激昂的演讲上都可以看得出来,但是,他没想到李牧竟然会为了华夏在世界范围的形象与影响力、为了华夏影视行业的长足发展,愿意牺牲一个商人最根本的目标:利润。 Can make Li Mu sacrifice the profit completely the matter, seemingly to the present, only then 3321 this, these words that but, Li Mu spoke a moment ago, already, not only sacrifice profit, even while giving up profit, but must invest more costs to handle this matter, can see from this point fully, Li Mu makes the matter of movie to attach great importance to China to Hollywood especially. 能让李牧完全牺牲利润的事情,貌似到现在只有3321这一件,但是,李牧刚才说的这一席话,已经不只是牺牲利润了,甚至是在放弃利润的同时,还要投入更多的成本来做这件事情,从这一点上足可以看出,李牧好莱坞华夏来拍电影的这件事情格外重视。 Spielberg cannot bear ask Li Mu: Mr. Li, you are hope that Hollywood can stimulate the entire China film industry? In this case, we can definitely make some movies with the Muye Pictures cooperation in the future, this absolutely does not have the issue.” 斯皮尔伯格忍不住问李牧:“李先生,你是希望好莱坞能够对整个华夏电影行业进行拉动?如果这样的话,我们将来完全可以和牧野映象共同合作拍一些电影,这个是完全没问题的。” Li Mu nods: Drawing must, the China film and television industry issue be too many, light/only by the internal adjustment and improvement, at least also needs ten years, but if due to the promotion of outstanding peer farmer, they must make vigorous efforts to catch up, otherwise must be eliminated by the industry of rapid growth, is eliminated by the audience of rapid growth.” 李牧点点头:“拉动是必须的,华夏的影视行业问题太多,光靠内部调整和改善,至少还要十年时间,但是如果在优秀同行业者的推动下,他们必然要奋起直追,否则就要被快速发展的行业淘汰、被快速发展的观众淘汰。” Saying, Li Mu was also saying: Another aspect that naturally, I said a moment ago is also very important, because is different from the ideology of West, the Western media propagandize to our demonization a lot, I do not know the politics, does not want to touch the politics, but I as a China person, the unusual hope entire world can cast off the media to impose on their colored spectacles, sees this countries, this nations and these people solid appearances of truly, or understood that this countries and this national for several thousand years in the ancient culture that on this lands breeds, but best solution that I can think, on is the movie.” 说着,李牧又道:“当然,我刚才说的另外一个方面也很重要,因为和西方的意识形态不同,西方媒体没少对我们妖魔化宣传,我本人不懂政治,也不想触碰政治,但是我作为一个华夏人,非常希望全世界能够摘掉媒体强加给他们的有色眼镜,真正看到这个国家、这个民族、这些人民实实在在的样子,或者了解这个国家、这个民族几千年来在这片土地上所孕育出的古老文化,而我能想到的最好的解决办法,就是电影。” Spielberg was also touched especially, his although is a US (America) person, but he is a Jew, he understood very much Li Mu this nationality sense of belonging, that feeling surpassed the limit of territory and country, is not one patriotic can summarize simply. 斯皮尔伯格也格外受触动,他虽然是一个美国人,但他更是一个犹太人,他很懂得李牧这种民族归属感,那种感觉超出了领土、国家的局限,不是一句爱国就能简单概括的。 Spielberg shot one to slaughter the Jew related movie with the Nazi, this movie «List named Schindler», told a German merchant named Schindler, helped more than 1000 Jews escape from the true story of holocaust in the second war, as Spielberg of Jew, is filming the entire process of this movie is not willing with the Germany actor to shake hand, although seemingly did not have the politeness, but this was heart deep place that nationality sense of belonging makes it so. 斯皮尔伯格曾经拍过一部与纳粹屠杀犹太人有关的电影,这部电影名叫《辛德勒的名单》,讲述了一个名叫辛德勒的德国商人,在二战中帮助一千多名犹太人逃脱了纳粹大屠杀的真实故事,作为犹太人的斯皮尔伯格,在拍摄这部电影的全过程都不愿和德裔演员握手,虽说看似没有礼貌,但这便是他内心深处那份民族归属感使然。 Stemming from Jew's profound approval to a national sense of belonging, is stemming from merchant's chase to a benefit, Spielberg is unable to reject the Li Mu's cooperation plan, he nods gently, said earnestly: Mr. Li, I am willing to accept your cooperation plan, in the next ten years, every year personally or makes my team depth participate in one with the China related movie, even is led by me and my team does not have the issue.” 无论是出于一个犹太人对民族归属感的深刻认同,还是出于一个商人对利益的追逐,斯皮尔伯格都无法拒绝李牧的合作方案,他轻轻点了点头,认真说道:“李先生,我愿意接受你的合作方案,在未来的十年时间内,每年亲自或者让我的团队深度参与一部与华夏有关的电影,甚至由我和我的团队来主导都没问题。” At this point, Spielberg, asked Li Mu: Mr. Li, about the cooperation of Muying Ticket System in North America, we also hopes the way to buying stock in increases part of stocks again, do you feel feasible?” 说到这里,斯皮尔伯格顿了顿,问李牧:“李先生,关于牧影票务系统在北美的合作,我们还希望以入股的方式再增持一部分股份,你觉得可行吗?” Li Mu said: Feasible, but the scope over 10%, in other words, we do not establish a company in North America together, in situation that if you do not invest, I account for 80%, you account for 20%, if you want to invest, I give you 10% increase spaces, but when increase, the estimate value of company is two hundred million USD.” 李牧说:“可行,但幅度不超过10%,也就是说,我们一起在北美成立一家公司,如果你们不出资的情况下,我占80%,你占20%,如果你们想出资,我给你们10%的增持空间,但是增持时,公司的估值是两亿美元。” Two hundred million USD estimate values, 10% stocks are two Ten Million USD, this to Spielberg as well as his company, although is not the big great sum of money, but also is a big disbursement, although this company anything does not have, sounds somewhat inconceivable on estimate value two hundred million USD, but only depends on Muying Ticket System, as well as it influence under YY ecology, as well as market space, these two hundred million USD already value. 两亿美元的估值,10%的股份就是两千万美元,这对斯皮尔伯格以及他的公司来说,虽然算不上多大的巨款,但也是一笔不小的支出,虽说这家公司什么都没有,就估值两亿美元听起来有些不可思议,但仅凭牧影票务系统,以及它在yy生态下的影响力,以及市场空间,这两亿美元就已经值了。 This seems Tencent to announce suddenly one day must make a new product within the framework of WeChat, even if the one cent does not invest, solely backs on the WeChat ecology, its estimate value will still be the sky-high price. 这就好像腾训忽然宣布有一天要在微信的框架下做一件新产品,即便一分钱不投入,单单是背靠微信生态,它的估值也将是天价。 A Spielberg slightly consideration, then said to Li Mu: Mr. Li, I accept your condition, is willing to increase 10% stocks.” 斯皮尔伯格只是略一考虑,便对李牧说道:“李先生,我接受你的条件,也愿意增持10%的股份。” Good.” Li Mu nods: Me does not have any other requests, my request all at movie, simple raises several points: First, you according to the agreement at the movie that China begins shooting, the script, choose the corner/horn and budget me to have a vote veto, if I do not like your stories, I can direct pass fall this movie ; If I do not like inside some actor, I can reject from this movie him directly ; If I have the opinion to the budget, I will conduct to increase or reduce in the original foundation moderately.” “好。”李牧点点头:“我这边没有什么其他的要求,我的要求全在电影上,简单的提几点:第一,你们按照约定在华夏投拍的电影,剧本、选角和预算我有一票否决权,如果我不喜欢你们的故事,我可以直接pass掉这部电影;如果我不喜欢里面的某个演员,我可以直接把他从这部电影里剔除;如果我对预算有意见,我会在原本的基础上适度进行增加或者缩减。” Spielberg's saying without hesitation: This is very reasonable, I do not have the opinion.” 斯皮尔伯格毫不犹豫的说道:“这很合理,我没意见。” Li Mu also felt relieved, he most is worried is Spielberg as well as his team deceives itself when the time comes, therefore the script of each movie wants to control, oneself nodded, can photograph. 李牧也放下心来,他最担心的就是斯皮尔伯格以及他的团队到时候糊弄自己,所以每一部电影的剧本一定要自己来把控,自己点头了,才可以拍摄。 Actually the film and television industry of Li Mu to China has had many disaffection, even if the Hollywood film and television circle is the vanity fair and interior degenerates and is rotten again, the specialization that but the entire circle makes the movie has been able to maintain and implement, a Hollywood actor possibly is the waste and drug addict or is small three, does the worn-out shoes, so long as before he or she arrives at the lens, is a specialized actor, presents is still the specialized performance. 其实李牧华夏的影视行业一直有非常非常多的不满,好莱坞影视圈就算再是名利场、内部再堕落、再腐烂,但整个圈子做电影的专业性是一直能够被保持并贯彻的,一个好莱坞演员可能是人渣、瘾君子或者是小三、搞破鞋,但只要他或者她走到镜头前,就是一个专业的演员,呈现出来的也是专业的演出。 However reviews the China film and television industry, big ticket professionally trained the difference of actor performing skill made one collapse, the entire industry manufacture level coarse, urgent, requested low to money fame and fortune pursue to the art, is unable to describe with the language simply. 但是反观华夏影视行业,一大票科班出身的演员演技之差令人崩溃,整个行业制作水平之糙、对金钱名利追求之迫切、对艺术本身要求之低,简直无法用语言来描述。 Every so often Li Mu watches the domestic-made film and television play, the extremely awkward discovery, will not act in a play lead his mother, let alone these groups developed. 很多时候李牧看国产的影视剧,会极其尴尬的发现,连主角都他妈不会演戏,更别说那些群演了。 Sometimes, a film and television play has several performing skill online movies with great difficulty, but the group develops water make the blood boil, to be divided a minute of play to jump the play, watching the feeling is extremely bad ; 有些时候,好不容易一部影视剧有几个演技在线的电影,但是群演一个个水得令人发指、分分钟出戏跳戏,观看感受极差; Sometimes, film and television play for current capacity and for income, please a big pile so-called works as the red small fresh meat, entire play independent screenshot each gets down, beautiful like the magazine big piece, after his mother strings together to become Yiqi, the matching plot makes one look wants to spit ; 有些时候,影视剧为了流量、为了收入,请一大堆所谓的当红小鲜肉,整部剧单独截图每一帧下来,都美的如同杂志大片,就他妈串成一起、搭配剧情之后让人看的想吐; Sometimes, item(s) and special effect in movie false makes three -year-old child not endure to look straight ahead, 有些时候,一部电影里的道具、特效假的让三岁小孩都不忍直视, Moreover Li Mu most dislikes the late recording the film and television play, so long as the shape of the mouth to does not endure on false hard to, however domestic most film and television play directors and actors, to photograph time-saving reduces effort, completely with way of late dubbing, will appear on the square the number digit digital young lady...... 而且李牧最膈应后期录音的影视剧,只要口型对不上就假的难以忍受,但是国内的大部分影视剧导演、演员,为了拍摄省时省力,全部采用后期配音的方式,以至于才会出现在片场上数数字的“数字小姐”…… Some senior actors are also shiftless, performing skill more than ten years have not broken through, more than ten years develop are the similar roles, but each made one look at the whole body to be awkward ; 有些老演员也是不思进取,演技十几年没有突破,十几年演得都是同样的角色,可是每一个都让人看了浑身尴尬; Counts the China film and television industry the erosion, Li Mu this outsider can character not redundant scolding the three days three nights, is not he has blind faith, purely from a perspective of audience, the China film and television play and US (America) film and television play simply does not have the means to place on a par, a simplest example: In the show will rarely discover that the performing skill not online group develops, group developing performing skill good impressive, most shows even are sometimes unattractive, not because the shoddy performing skill of actor will let a person of play, but will review the home, the group will develop the group of being will not really act in a play to develop, has not seen several directors to insist the supporting role who own artistic pursue, please a gang act in a play truly will come, by the entire drastic change plentifully. 细数华夏影视行业的糜烂,李牧这个圈外人都能够一字不重复的骂上三天三夜,不是他崇洋媚外,单纯从一个观众的角度来看,华夏影视剧和美国影视剧根本没办法相提并论,最最简单的一个例子:美剧里很少会发现演技不在线的群演,有时候群演的演技都好的让人惊叹,大部分的美剧就算是不好看,也不会因为演员的拙劣演技让人出戏,但是反观国内,群演就真的是根本不会演戏的群演,也没见几个导演能够坚持自己的艺术追求,真正请一帮会演戏的配角进来,让整部剧变得更加丰满。 Because these make people feel the original sin that expects too much, Li Mu fills pessimistically to the development of voluntarily China film and television industry. 正因为这些让人感觉恨铁不成钢的原罪,李牧才对华夏影视行业的自行发展充满悲观。 previous life although Hollywood infiltrated the China film and television market later massively, even the actor, director and screenwriter China film and television industry carried out massive cooperation, but that time China market has gotten up, the industry has taken the branch road, the audience also has leaning the direction, the Hollywood must lower the head content to the home, must the so-called actor who began using the domestic no performing skill for the box office, has not brought any promotion to the domestic movie completely, instead by domestic film market belt/bring drift off many. 上辈子虽然后期好莱坞大量渗透进了华夏影视市场,甚至于华夏影视行业的演员、导演、编剧进行了大量合作,但那个时候的华夏市场已经起来,行业已经走上歧路,观众也被带偏了方向,以至于好莱坞的内容到了国内都要低头,都要为了票房启用国内无演技的所谓演员,完全没有给国内电影带来任何提升,反而被国内电影市场带得自己都跑偏了不少。 To if this whole life China film and television industry also takes such path, that Li Mu will certainly dismiss Muye Pictures, henceforth does not bump the film and television, because he is not willing to mix up with so many lo, even if in an industry, he cannot throw that person. 对如果这辈子华夏影视行业还走上这样的道路,那李牧一定会把牧野映象解散,从此再也不碰影视,因为他不愿意跟那么多lo咖混在一起,哪怕只是在一个行业里,他也丢不起那个人。 Spielberg very initiative asking Li Mu: Mr. Li, if we sign successfully, in 2003 you hope what theme we shoot, with the China related movie?” 斯皮尔伯格非常主动的问李牧:“李先生,如果我们签约成功,2003年您希望我们拍一部什么题材的、与华夏有关的电影呢?” Li Mu slightly pondered over, opens the mouth saying: War theme! 《Saving Private Ryan》, «Brothers Linking», is the war theme film and television plays that I like, During World War II China was to resist the Japanese invaders and paid the huge price, make the great contribution to the world peace for the people of the world, but Hollywood had not resisted the movie of Japanese invader about China in the second war, you made the movie the second war campaign that almost all US (America) people participated , when you also photographed about the second war movie that the German arm force slaughtered the Jew, when were directed a China second war movie by you personally, I want is very certainly meaningful.” 李牧略一思忖,开口道:“战争题材的吧!无论是《拯救大兵瑞恩》,还是《兄弟连》,都是我非常喜欢的战争题材影视剧,二战时华夏为抵御日本侵略者、为了世界和平付出了巨大的代价、为世界人民做出了巨大贡献,但是好莱坞一直没有关于华夏在二战时抵抗日本侵略者的影片,你们把几乎所有美国人参与的二战战役都拍成了电影,你本人也拍摄了关于二战时德军屠杀犹太人的电影,如果由你亲自来执导一部华夏二战时的电影,我想一定会很有意义。” Spielberg can understand Li Mu's this nationality sense of belonging, even before Li Mu, pledged that he invests even gives to guarantee a minimum the box office, but stemming from the professional accomplishment, he is the friendship reminds Li Mu: Mr. Li, the true war piece spends greatly, the cost was high, saves main strength Ryan to throw seven Ten Million USD four years ago, the brothers linked also threw 100 million two Ten Million USD, the cost was high, moreover you want to shoot one to reflect that perhaps movie of China in second war, the movie of this theme, in North America and rest of the world, will not have too high box office performance, possibility that therefore recouped the cost not big......” 斯皮尔伯格很能理解李牧的这种民族归属感,即便李牧之前承诺他来投资甚至来给出保底票房,但是出于职业素养,他还是友情提醒李牧:“李先生,真正的战争片耗资巨大,成本非常高,拯救大兵瑞恩在四年前就投了七千万美元,兄弟连也投了一亿两千万美元,成本非常高,而且你又想拍一部反映华夏在二战时的电影,这种题材的电影,在北美以及世界其他地区,恐怕都不会有太高的票房表现,所以收回成本的可能性并不大……” Li Mu said categorically: „ Is unimportant, you think that the theme I throw, I cannot throw my company to throw, my company cannot throw, my shareholders throw, money is not the issue, the issue is to have the good work, China has 1.3 billion population, I do not believe a good movie to meet no one to look! „ 李牧斩钉截铁的说:“不要紧,你想题材我来投,我个人投不起我的公司投,我的公司投不起,我的股东们投,钱不是问题,问题是要有好的作品,华夏有十三亿人口,我不信一部好的电影会没人看!“
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