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#1008: Boss Ma „luck” came


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Counts Heavenly Queen / day(s) later, Haidian District Court that the Muye Science and Technology registration is, finally accepted more than 200 Taobao sellers to sue the Muye Science and Technology case officially jointly. 天后,牧野科技注册地所在的海淀区法院,终于正式受理了两百多淘宝卖家联名起诉牧野科技的案件。 Accepting of this case, has not caused what mighty waves in the internet industry, however aroused a big interest in the judicial department of nation. 这个案件的受理,在互联网行业里并没有引起什么波澜,但是在全国的司法部门引起了不小的关注。 Before then, the nation has almost not presented the lawsuit that revolving online virtual property has launched, now Haidian District Court received the lawsuit of first this type case to request, moreover they also chose accepted the case, this to judicial department had a great influence. 在此之前,全国几乎没有出现过围绕“网上虚拟财产”展开的诉讼,如今海淀区法院接到了第一个此类型案件的诉讼请求,而且他们还选择了受理案件,这对司法部门的影响很大。 Generally speaking, whether the court accepts a case, represented the basic attitude of court. 一般来说,法院是否受理一个案件,也代表了法院的基本态度。 If somebody went to the court to sue the US (America) spy satellite to encroach upon him **, or sued the fart that the neighbor put to make him receive the psychological harm, the court will certainly not accept the lawsuit of this type of no legal principle theory of law support, if the court accepted, that can also understand in some subtle level is, the court basically approved the legal principle theory of law basis of plaintiff lawsuit. 如果某人去法院起诉美国的间谍卫星侵犯了他的**,或者起诉邻居放的屁让他受到了心理伤害,法院一定不会受理这种毫无法理支撑的诉讼,如果法院受理了,那么在某个微妙的层面上也可以理解为,法院基本上认可了原告诉讼的法理依据。 Therefore, Haidian District Court in view of the approach of this case, has very great influence on the entire domestic judicial field, if Haidian District Court refuses to accept, then means that in the eye of Haidian District Court, online virtual property the concept lacks the legal principle theory of law support ; 所以,海淀区法院针对这件案子的做法,对整个国内司法领域都有着非常重大的影响,如果海淀区法院拒绝受理,那么就意味着在海淀区法院的眼里,“网上虚拟财产”的概念缺乏法理支撑; Otherwise, if Haidian District Court accepted, can understand is: Haidian District Court has approved online virtual property basically validity. 反之,如果海淀区法院受理了,就可以理解为:海淀区法院已经基本认可“网上虚拟财产”的合法性。 Now, Haidian District Court had taken approval bravely online virtual property the first step, is only who didn't expect, the first step that this new times law must take, used on the body of Muye Science and Technology unexpectedly. 现在,海淀区法院已经勇敢的迈出了认可“网上虚拟财产”的第一步,只是谁也没想到,这个新时代法律必然要迈出的第一步,竟然是用在了牧野科技的身上。 The person of judicial field, the economical trading domain, almost paid attention to this lawsuit particularly with emphasis, some everyone basically oneself judgments, most people believe that since Haidian District Court accepted this case, then sentenced the possibility that the plaintiff won to surpass 80%. 司法领域的人,尤其是经济商事领域,几乎都重点关注起了这桩诉讼,大家基本上都有自己的判断,大部分人都认为,海淀区法院既然受理了这起案件,那么判原告赢的可能性超过80%。 The news that the Boss Ma synthesis must come in every way, synthesizes his own control to the entire event, his assurance to the win is almost 100%, but Boss Ma actually does not want through the written judgment, to force Li Mu to submit, he hopes that can make Li Mu go back on word ahead of time, the initiative concessions. 马老板综合多方得来的消息,综合他自己对整个事件的掌控,他个人对胜诉的把握几乎就是100%,不过马老板却不想通过判决书,来迫使李牧屈服,他更希望能够让李牧提前食言、主动让步。 If adopts the normal ruling, from preparation to holding court again to judging, the time period is too long, to present LeTao, the time is money, more develops quickly is better, therefore he does not want to tow, does not tow ; 如果通过正常判决,从准备到开庭再到宣判,时间周期太长,对现在的乐淘来说,时间就是金钱,越快发展越好,所以他不想拖,也拖不起; Moreover, Li Mu said Muye Science and Technology will not compromise to the counterfeit goods seller this determination enormous words, if the court sentences him to lose, forces him to compromise with the legal principle theory of law, Li Mu compromised even, is still not goes back on word, therefore, Boss Ma hopes that Li Mu can before judging first compromises, such, not only to LeTao, the efficiency is higher, represents Li Mu to go back on word, hit the face ruthlessly one time by oneself. 而且,李牧自己说了“牧野科技绝不会向假货卖家妥协”这种决心极大的话,若是法院判他输,用法理来逼迫他妥协,李牧就算妥协了,也并不算食言,所以,马老板更希望李牧能够在宣判之前就先妥协,那样不但对乐淘来说,效率更高,同时也代表着李牧自己食言,被自己狠狠打脸一次。 However, actually Boss Ma will choose which road not to grasp to Li Mu, in his opinion, this matter can only look at the luck. 但是,马老板李牧究竟会选择哪一条路并没有把握,在他看来,这件事只能看运气。 However sometimes, the luck came the words, keep off cannot block. 不过有的时候,运气来了的话,挡都挡不住。 ...... …… In this during, the Taobao net's first nation individual Webmaster congress will soon convene in Yanjing. 恰好在这个当口,淘宝网第一届全国个人站长大会即将在燕京召开。 Over a thousand individual Webmaster this weekend of the end of October, rush to Yanjing with various space inferior transportation ways, has planned to participate in this China internet industry since the birth, in population largest grand meetings. 上千名个人站长在十月底的这个周末,用天上地下等各种交通方式赶赴燕京,准备参加这次华夏互联网行业自诞生以来,人数上规模最大的盛会。 Individual Webmaster in the internet industry is one group of quality irregular disbanded soldiers, looked individually almost rarely has to make a name, but if fuses in this group of disbanded soldiers together, this is almost a China internet industry most powerful new force. 个人站长互联网行业里是一帮素质参差不齐的散兵游勇,单个看几乎很少有成气候的,但是如果把这帮散兵游勇融合在一起,这又几乎是华夏互联网行业最强大的一支生力军。 Taobao Alliance the birth, making individual Webmaster that these operated independently find one more efficient, the imaginary space bigger current capacity realization way, like cement, individual Webmaster bundle fusion in a state of disunity in one, therefore the people in industry know, this time Taobao nation individual Webmaster congress, to put it bluntly was the mass organization meeting of Taobao Alliance. 淘宝联盟”的诞生,让这些各自为战的个人站长找到了一个更高效、想象空间更大的流量变现方式,同时也像水泥一样,将一盘散沙的个人站长捆绑融合在了一起,所以行业内的人都知道,这次的淘宝全国个人站长大会,说白了就是淘宝联盟的社团聚会。 In Taobao Alliance this mass organization, Taobao is the eldest child who deserves, but individual Webmaster that each joined Taobao Alliance was the little brother in this mass organization, the eldest child raises the arm shouts must meet, these little brothers naturally had the tremendous enthusiasm to come in swarms. 淘宝联盟这个社团里,淘宝是当之无愧的老大,而每一个加入了淘宝联盟的个人站长都是这个社团中的小弟,老大振臂一呼说要开会,这些小弟们自然是带着极大的热情蜂拥而至。 In the star-level hotel under Taobao net package, comes individual Webmaster that registers and handles to move to be continuous unceasingly, the scene is extremely busy. 淘宝网这次包下的星级酒店里,不断前来签到、办理入住的个人站长络绎不绝,现场热闹非凡。 Individual Webmaster that each comes to register, the back is representing the daily average several tens of thousands of and hundreds of thousands of even several million visit current capacities, these people in the eyes of internet jobholders, are not independent live people, but is the current capacity entrances of walk. 每一个前来签到的个人站长,背后都代表着日均数万、数十万甚至数百万的访问流量,这些人在互联网从业人员的眼里,已经不是一个个独立的活人了,而是一个个行走的流量入口。 Some people jokingly call, Taobao Alliance China internet more than 50% useful flows, the success monopoly in own hand, will basically have possibility Taobao Alliance to change in the future extremely, issues system from a e-Commerce advertisement, transforms a current capacity entrance of entire net. 有人戏称,淘宝联盟基本上已经把华夏互联网一半以上的有效流量,成功垄断在了自己的手里,将来极有可能淘宝联盟自己摇身一变,从一个电商广告发布系统,转化成一个全网的流量入口。 Actually this joke opinion, guessed correctly the Li Mu's thoughts exactly. 其实这玩笑般的言论,恰好猜出了李牧的心思。 Li Mu felt, individual Webmaster of past, was equal to the independent agriculture families, everyone reclaimed and plants in the respective farming, the wheat that will then harvest sold to various group of commerce at will, some people sold to the sesame seed cake shop the wheat, some people sold to the fried cake booth, some people sold to the bakery and steamed bun shop. 李牧觉得,以往的个人站长,等同于一个个独立的农耕家庭,大家在各自的耕地上开垦、种植,然后将自己收获的小麦随意卖给各路商贩,有人把小麦卖给了烧饼铺,有人卖给了煎饼摊,也有人卖给了面包店、馒头铺。 Li Mu thinks that this business structure is too simple, to somewhat loafs simply convenient, the efficiency naturally also missed much. 李牧认为这种商业结构实在太简单,简单到有些图懒省事,效率自然也就差了不少。 Li Mu wants to do, is established a wheat intensive processing by oneself flour mill, oneself producing these agriculture family in all wrapped, is used to produce various different bread flour, again collection ** to merchant who various roads need the bread flour and ensure the wheat can sell after the intensive processing to a better price. 李牧想做的,是由自己成立一个小麦深加工的“面粉厂”,自己把这些农耕家庭地里的出产全包了,然后用来生产各种各样不同的面粉,再集**给各路需要面粉的商户,确保小麦经过深加工可以卖到一个更好的价格。 At present, in Li Mu's has comprehensive Taobao, the Li Mu's flour mill seems like also in diligently self-sufficient, but, once Li Mu grasps the farmers of most type of grain in his hands, he can monopolize the grain market. 眼下,李牧的手里有一个包罗万象的淘宝,李牧的面粉厂看起来还在努力自给自足,但是,一旦李牧把大多数种粮食的农民都掌握在他自己的手里,那他本人就能够对粮食市场进行垄断。 The grain, is the current capacity of internet industry. 粮食,就是互联网行业的流量。 Li Mu wants to gather in great quantity individual Webmaster together, the formed powerful current capacity not only can be used to promote the Taobao net and Taobao commodity, the one who has the imaginary space is: Once the current capacity saves to can certainly the degree, these current capacities can conduct again the pack conformity sell through oneself, if there are other website to do the promotion, can buy the current capacity from Taobao Alliance directly. 李牧想将巨量的个人站长汇聚在一起,形成的这强大流量不仅可以用来推广淘宝网以及淘宝商品,更有想象空间的是:一旦流量积攒到一定能程度,这些流量就可以通过自己来进行重新打包整合出售,如果有其他网站想搞推广,可以直接从淘宝联盟买流量。 To realize these, must first achieve, is in the alliance, individual Webmaster highly controllable, this Webmaster congress, for is receives the little brother and forming cliques broadly. 想实现这些,首先要做到的,就是联盟中,个人站长的高度可控,这场站长大会,为的就是广收小弟、拉帮结派。 The eye looks at Li Mu's plan feasibility is quite high, does not know that is which person who had the disease of jealousy, published an article on major website. 看着李牧的规划可行性颇高,也不知道是哪个犯了红眼病的人,在各大网站上发表了一篇文章。 The title of this article is: Li Mu in view of the double standards of virtual property.” 这篇文章的标题是:“李牧针对虚拟财产的双重标准。” In the article, the author individual YY account number as well as individual website puts together made a comparison. 文章中,作者把个人yy账号以及个人网站放在一起做了个比较。 Before the author first puts out Li Mu, rejects to the instance that more than 200 sellers compromise, ejected the first argument: Li Mu believes, the user does not have the control to the YY account number that oneself register, the true control should in the YY service provider, is in the hand of Muye Science and Technology, then this argument is reasonable? 笔者先拿出李牧之前拒绝向两百多名卖家妥协的事例,抛出了第一个论点:李牧认为,用户对自己注册的yy账号是没有控制权的,真正的控制权应该在yy服务提供商,也就是牧野科技的手里,那么这个论点是否合理? Assuming that this argument is fair, then with individual Webmaster puts together after contrasts, can discover immediately giant logical loophole. 假设这个论点合情合理,那么与个人站长放在一起对比之后,就能立刻发现其中巨大的逻辑漏洞。 This huge logical loophole source is: If the domain name supplier of Internet also uses the theoretical foundation of Muye Science and Technology, that also means, any website control is not at the domain name as well as in the website owner hand, but should in the hand of domain name supplier. 这个巨大的逻辑漏洞源是:如果英特网的域名供应商也采用牧野科技的理论依据,那也就意味着,任何网站的控制权都不在域名以及网站所有者手里,而是应该在域名供应商的手里。 But, this possibility? If really defers to this theoretical foundation, let alone individual Webmaster website is not their, the Li Mu's YY net is not Muye Science and Technology, must be the domain name supplier, if some day the domain name supplier must seal the Li Mu's YY net, looks at YY net that Li Mu can also be willing by to seal/confer drop? 可是,这可能吗?如果真按照这个理论依据,别说个人站长网站都不是他们自己的,就连李牧的yy网也不是牧野科技的,应当是域名供应商的,如果有一天域名供应商要封掉李牧的yy网,难道李牧也会心甘情愿的看着yy网被封掉吗? This author also came up with a hypothesis sharp-tongued: If Muye Science and Technology really has the right to prohibit YY of user at will, that means, the domain name supplier also does have prohibits all website full power at will? Means, the domain name supplier can take back oneself to have the Muye Science and Technology YY net momentarily? 该作者还言辞犀利的做了一个假设:假如牧野科技真的有权随意封禁用户的yy号,那是否意味着,域名供应商也有全力随意封禁所有的网站?是否意味着,域名供应商随时可以把牧野科技yy网收归己有? Answer obviously negative, in the article said: Li Mu actually understood logic, he knows each Webmaster, has the absolute sovereignty to own website, he also knows that each website as well as website content and current capacity, is individual Webmaster own virtual property, rather than turns over to the domain name supplier, therefore he will found Taobao Alliance, to help individual Webmaster use their virtual properties to earn more benefits. 答案显然是否定的,文章中称:李牧自身其实非常了解这其中的逻辑,他知道每一个站长,对自己的网站都有着绝对的主权,他也知道每一个网站以及网站的内容、流量,都是个人站长自己的虚拟财产,而不是归域名供应商所有,所以他才会创建了淘宝联盟,以帮助个人站长利用他们的虚拟财产赚取更多的利益。 Therefore, the author interrogated Li Mu end of the article: „ Since Li Mu respects individual Webmaster virtual property, why that Li Mu's Muye Science and Technology can't respect the virtual property of YY user? The domain name supplier has no right to interfere with the operation of individual Webmaster, Muye Science and Technology also naturally has no right the behavior that interferes with the YY user, has no right to prohibit the YY user. 所以,作者在文章末尾质问李牧:“既然李牧尊重个人站长的虚拟财产,那李牧的牧野科技为什么不能尊重yy用户的虚拟财产?域名供应商无权干涉个人站长的运营,牧野科技也自然无权干涉yy用户的行为,更无权对yy用户进行封禁。 Two matters are suitable for the similar legal principle theory of law, but Li Mu must carry out 180 degrees difference to treat, highly respects about individual Webmaster virtual property, actually tramples to the virtual property of YY user wantonly, this in emotion in reason in the law, cannot be justified. ” 两件事适用同样的法理,但李牧偏偏要搞180度的区别对待,对个人站长的虚拟财产高度尊重,却对yy用户的虚拟财产大肆践踏,这于情于理于法律,都说不过去。” Finally, the author still separates the spatial frontline propaganda in the article to Li Mu, said: Hoping Muye Science and Technology can give a solution properly at this matter, respects everyone the virtual property on internet, treats impartially to all internet users, if otherwise a lead goat general enterprise is carrying out the difference to treat, then atmosphere of domestic internet development by greatly negative impact.” 最后,作者还在文章中向李牧隔空喊话,道:“希望牧野科技能够在这件事上给出一个妥善的解决方案,尊重所有人在互联网上的虚拟财产,对所有的互联网用户一视同仁,否则如果一个领头羊一般的企业本身就在搞区别对待,那么国内互联网发展的氛围就会受到巨大的负面影响。” This article once were sent out, then mounted the major Portal website headlines besides YY net, had a big influence in the industry. 这篇文章一经发出,便登上了除了yy网之外的各大门户网站头条,在行业内产生了不小的影响力。 Boss Ma saw after the article that this seized many internet Portal net headline, exciting grinning with ear to ear, in his opinion, oneself truly changed from bad to good, the accident/surprise obtained means of livelihood also even, currently really also has such capable person to jump on own initiative, with very ingenious way, borrowed Li Mu to hold the opportunity of individual Webmaster congress, proposed to Li Mu huge question that was almost impossible to refute, it seems like that the overlord logic of Li Mu as well as Muye Science and Technology, quick must be defeated by this article thoroughly. 马老板看到这篇抢占了不少互联网门户网头条的文章之后,兴奋的合不拢嘴,在他看来,自己确实是时来运转了,意外得到一条活路也就算了,现在竟然还有这样的能人主动跳出来,用非常巧妙的方式,借用李牧召开个人站长大会的机会,对李牧提出了巨大的、几乎无法反驳的质疑,看来李牧以及牧野科技的霸王逻辑,很快就要被这篇文章彻底击破。 However, excited Boss Ma has a dream also didn't expect, this expression and argument are sharp, even is the pertinent article, is Li Mu writes...... 但是,激动不已的马老板做梦也没想到,这篇言辞与论点都非常犀利,甚至是一针见血的文章,就是李牧自己写的……
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