RINAPE :: Volume #11

#1006: Satisfying thirst by drinking poison


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Poaches more than 200 that oneself ripped intentionally malignant tumor, Boss Ma actually also feels does not satisfy a craving, this truly comes as a surprise to Li Mu's. 挖走了自己故意割掉的两百多个“毒瘤”,马老板竟然还觉得不过瘾,这确实出乎李牧的预料。 Li Mu also has to acknowledge, Boss Ma truly is an unusual fierce and ambitious. 李牧也不得不承认,马老板确实是个非同一般的枭雄。 Such person, can never say the defeat, moreover broke through the common person conceivable limit to successful ORIJEN (long for), even if satisfies thirst by drinking poison, must drink the stomach big waist circle to satisfy a craving. 这样的人,永远不会言败,而且对成功的渴望突破了寻常人可以想象的极限,哪怕是饮鸩止渴,也要喝个肚大腰圆才过瘾。 The Taobao sellers facing more than 200 sealed shops protested together sealed their seller YY approach, Li Mu almost gave own solution without hesitation, actually only had two characters: Unsealing! 面对两百多个被封店的淘宝卖家共同抗议封掉他们卖家yy的做法,李牧几乎不假思索的给出了自己的解决方案,其实就只有两个字:解封! Unseals to them is the inevitable choice, although seems like in the wrong, but compromises to more than 200 sellers, actually Li Mu looking forward lets this group of happier lining that people who sell the counterfeit goods sell, simple that such but, Li Mu does not prepare to compromise, compromise is simple, the opposite party more will not treasure, must therefore make the opposite party realize that the successful result is hard-won, they will attach great importance. 给他们解封是必然的选择,虽然看起来像是理亏而对这两百多个卖家妥协,其实李牧巴不得让这帮卖假货的人卖的更欢衬一点,不过,李牧不准备妥协的这么干脆,妥协的越是干脆,对方就越不会珍惜,所以一定要让对方意识到成功的结果来之不易,他们才会更加重视。 Quick, Muye Science and Technology acts, issued the first statement to more than 200 Taobao sellers: Taobao seller YY, is Muye Science and Technology and Taobao net cooperation deciding making lithograph plates YY, this decides making lithograph plates YY, since has custom-made for Taobao, therefore its actual authority should also in Taobao, Muye Science and Technology have no right to meddle. 很快,牧野科技出面,向这两百多个淘宝卖家发表了第一个声明:淘宝卖家yy,是牧野科技淘宝网合作的定制版yy,这款定制版yy既然是为淘宝定制,所以它的实际管理权也应该在淘宝手里,牧野科技无权插手。 The Taobao net also issues to state, the core is consistent with the Muye Science and Technology excuse, thinks oneself have the absolute authority to Taobao seller YY, therefore oneself have the absolute power, sells false Taobao seller YY to prohibit to these. 紧接着,淘宝网也发布声明,核心内容与牧野科技的说辞一致,认为自己对淘宝卖家yy有着绝对的管理权,所以自己有绝对的权力,对这些售假的淘宝卖家yy进行封禁。 More than 200 Taobao sellers were stopped up by Taobao and Taobao liangs, the arrogance are suppressed immediately, these sellers are the minority groups, moreover limits slurred to the law, if official told them clearly, Taobao had the right to prohibit their seller YY, they turned into the headless fly to be common all of a sudden, lost the direction that continued to launch an attack. 两百多淘宝卖家被淘宝头堵了一下,气焰立刻就被压住,这些卖家本身就是弱势群体,而且对法律界定模糊不清,如果官方明确告诉他们,淘宝有权利对他们的卖家yy进行封禁,他们一下子就变成无头苍蝇一般,失去了继续发难的方向。 Teacher Lei knows, the Li Mu's original intention wants to these sellers, in must return to the seller YY process, increases a difficulty, but after didn't expect Li Mu lets two companies issue two statements about the same time, directly mute the fire that group of sellers stop up. 雷教主知道,李牧的本意只是想给这些卖家,在要回卖家yy号的过程之中,增加一点难度,但没想到李牧让两家公司前后脚发出两份声明之后,直接把那帮卖家堵的哑了火。 Teacher Lei asked Li Mu: „Were our these two statements the expression were too intense a point? In this case, these sellers feared that was very difficult to find the new theoretical foundation with the request that we put forward lift a ban, what to do if they did give up? Can't we yield when the time comes again on own initiative?” 雷教主李牧:“我们这两份声明是不是言辞太强烈了一点?这样的话,这些卖家怕是很难找到新的理论依据来跟我们提解禁的要求,万一他们就此放弃怎么办?我们总不能到时候再主动让步吧?” Li Mu said with a smile: You do not understand Boss Ma, these sellers could not find the flaw, not representative Boss Ma cannot , he since wants to promote the performance of LeTao, to make more than 200 sellers play the major role, then he will certainly find the way to help more than 200 people fight to the end with us.” 李牧笑道:“你不了解马老板,这些卖家找不到破绽,不代表马老板不能,他既然想提升乐淘的业绩表现、想让这两百多个卖家发挥更大的作用,那么他一定会想办法帮助这两百多人跟我们斗争到底。” Saying, Li Mu was also saying to Teacher Lei: Why the ancient said that the wife was inferior the concubine and concubine do might as well steal? Actually is a psychology, obtained is simpler, more does not treasure, on the contrary, must come is more hard-won, going crazy that more treasures.” 说着,李牧又对雷教主说:“为什么古人说妻不如妾、妾不如偷?其实就是一种心理,得到的越简单,就越不珍惜,相反,得来的越来之不易,就越珍惜的发狂。” Teacher Lei asked: Your meaning, is to make Boss Ma work hard much, when he works hard and helps more than 200 sellers attain seller YY, will his going all out also certainly make these sellers squeeze the value from their seller YY?” 雷教主笑问:“那你的意思,是要让马老板多费点工夫,等他费了工夫、帮助这两百多个卖家拿到了卖家yy,他也一定会拼命让这些卖家从他们的卖家yy里压榨价值?” Right.” Li Mu smiles, said: Has a look at now the method of this group of sellers, appealed and protested jointly jointly, this isn't the child's play? In the repertoire that solely since they work can also look, they gave these sellers to make a suggestion, LeTao or Boss Ma did not have to play the direct role in the back truly, after waiting for Boss Ma to go into action in secret, we announced unsealing again, this can also let Boss Ma immeasurably self-satisfied.” “对啊。”李牧笑了笑,说:“看看现在这帮卖家的手段,联名申诉、联名抗议,这不是儿戏吗?单单从他们做事的套路上也看得出来,他们只是给这些卖家提了个建议,乐淘或者马老板还没有真正在背后发挥直接作用,等马老板暗中出马之后,我们再宣布解封,这样也能让马老板沾沾自喜一下。” Teacher Lei nods, said: We wait their time to appeal to the next movement after failure jointly.” 雷教主点点头,说:“那我们就等他们这次联名申诉失败后的下一个动作吧。” Li Mu shows a faint smile, said: With the Boss Ma character, certainly with will be more direct, a more specialized method to solve the problem, waits to look, when this group of sellers take up the legal weapon defends the rights the time, showed that Boss Ma acted certainly in secret.” 李牧微微一笑,说:“以马老板的性格,一定会用更直接、更专业的手段解决问题,等着看吧,什么时候这帮卖家拿起法律武器来捍卫自己权益的时候,就证明马老板一定暗中出手了。” Teacher Lei suddenly realize, said with a smile: Is reasonable! Our statement although expression is very strong, however the back legal principle theory of law support is not clear, in fact Muye Science and Technology has not signed the agreement with the Taobao net, explained that Taobao decides making lithograph plates YY, all authorities have been authorized to Taobao, moreover even our forge power of attorney, the legal principle theory of law is still not very clear, because YY is in fact operated by Muye Science and Technology as before, this could not be justified jurisprudentially speaking, but these ordinary sellers should unable to realize this, but Boss Ma definitely is can see.” 雷教主恍然大悟,笑道:“有道理!咱们的声明虽然言辞很强硬,但是背后的法理支持却不清晰,实际上牧野科技也没有跟淘宝网签协议,说明淘宝定制版的yy,所有管理权都已经授权给淘宝,而且就算是我们伪造一个授权书,法理也不够明确,因为yy实际上依旧是由牧野科技来运营,这从法理上就更说不过去了,不过这些普通卖家应该意识不到这一层,但马老板肯定是看得出的。” Li Mu hit a sound to refer, says with a smile: Therefore we, so long as waited to be OK patiently, when the method of opposite party promoted, when we drew back again one step, making Boss Ma look for the winning pleasant sensation on us, since this has been I for a long time has a deficit his......” 李牧打了个响指,笑道:“所以我们只要耐心等着就可以了,什么时候对方的玩法升级了,什么时候我们再退一步,让马老板在我们身上找一点赢的快感,这是我这么长时间以来亏欠他的……” Saying, Li Mu is exhorting one: Chief Lei, Brother Liu at the matter of busy logistics, in the operation a lot must shoulder recently by yourself, moreover some dirty job tiring work also you start personally.” 说着,李牧又嘱咐一句:“雷总,刘师兄最近一直在忙物流的事情,运营上很多事情就得靠你自己扛起来了,而且有些脏活累活也得你亲自下手。” Teacher Lei knows that Li Mu also has certainly cannot move the dark move of floor, therefore nods immediately, said earnestly: Chief Li, you told although.” 雷教主知道李牧一定还有不能搬上台面的暗招,于是当即点了点头,认真的说:“李总,你尽管吩咐。” Li Mu said: I have brothers, in the hand has one to be huge and very controllable water army, when we lift a ban, these sellers to start YY of this group of sellers when LeTao operates full power, we brush a wave of list to them, making them enjoy the e-Commerce spring ahead of time.” 李牧说:“我有个兄弟,手里有一支非常庞大而且非常可控的水军,等我们把这批卖家的yy号解禁、这些卖家开始在乐淘全力运作的时候,我们给他们刷一波单,让他们提前享受一下电商的春天。” Brushes the list?” Teacher Lei surprised asking: Brushes the counterfeit goods?” “刷单?”雷教主惊讶的问:“是刷假货吗?” Li Mu nods: Right, brushes the counterfeit goods, made an effort to propose the LeTao counterfeit goods turnover, doesn't Boss Ma want to satisfy thirst by drinking poison? That makes him drink to satisfy a craving!” 李牧点点头:“没错,就是刷假货,把乐淘的假货成交量使劲提一提,马老板不是想饮鸩止渴吗?那就让他喝个过瘾!” Teacher Lei hears to shake the head, sighed: He, if knows that all are you are digging a pit to him, feared that was this whole life does not want to bump internet, not to become the opponent with you again.” 雷教主听得直摇头,感叹道:“他要是知道一切的一切都是你在给他挖坑,怕是这辈子都不想再碰互联网、不想再跟你成对手了。” Li Mu selects the eyebrow to smile: I do that also to cross him, Boss Ma this person, ambition actually not in internet.” 李牧挑眉一笑:“我这么做,也是为了渡他,马老板这个人,志向其实不在互联网。” Right?” Teacher Lei surprised asking: „Are you very ripe with him?” “是吗?”雷教主惊讶的问:“你跟他很熟?” Li Mu shakes the head. 李牧摇摇头。 Teacher Lei also asked: How do you know his ambition not in internet?” 雷教主又问:“那你怎么知道他的志向不在互联网?” I heard that.” Li Mu said with a smile: I heard, Boss Ma had told others, his whole life happiest time, is the past years was the teacher time, since this, that were inferior or goes back to be the teacher.” “听说的。”李牧笑道:“我听人说,马老板曾经跟别人说过,他这辈子最开心的时候,是当年做老师的时候,既然这样,那不如还是回去当老师。” ...... …… Muye Science and Technology with the two statements of Taobao net, truly makes more than 200 sellers feel unable to start, ordinary when probably civilians facing government is the same, once the latter conducts the trap in the rule, the former is impossible to have the opportunity of breaking through. 牧野科技淘宝网的两道声明,确实让这两百多个卖家感觉无从下手,就好像普通平民面对政府时一样,一旦后者在规则上进行封堵,前者根本不可能有突围的机会。 Lu Zhaoxi first seller will protest group the news report of failure gave Boss Ma, when Boss Ma sees Muye Science and Technology and two announcements of Taobao net, immediately sees giant loophole. 陆照喜第一时间将“卖家抗议团”失败的消息汇报给了马老板,当马老板看到牧野科技淘宝网的两则公告时,立刻就看出了其中的巨大漏洞。 Boss Ma cold said with a laugh: Li Mu this, tricks the ordinary individual operator, wants to trick I am the gate does not have! Around his explanation seems like gives dual attention, actually incomprehensible nonsense! YY is the Muye Science and Technology product, has Muye Science and Technology to come the actual operation and provides the client, used is also the Muye Science and Technology server, how possibly to turn over to the Taobao net to come the actual operation? He dares to take up the mouth to say actually!” 马老板笑着说:“李牧这一手,忽悠忽悠普通个体户还可以,想忽悠我是门也没有!他这个解释看似前后兼顾,实则狗屁不通!yy牧野科技的产品,有牧野科技来实际运营并提供用户服务,用的也是牧野科技的服务器,怎么可能归淘宝网来实际运营?他倒是敢拿起嘴来就说!” Lu Zhaoxi nods, said: Li Mu this supposed a two stopping up impasse to these sellers, but guesses carefully, truly somewhat talked irresponsibly.” Saying, Lu Zhaoxi was also asking: Chief Ma, what to do do you feel our next should? Can remind with these sellers?” 陆照喜点点头,道:“李牧这本身就是给那些卖家设了一个两头堵的死胡同,不过仔细揣测,确实是有些信口雌黄了。”说着,陆照喜又问:“马总,你觉得我们下一步应该怎么办?要不要跟这些卖家提个醒?” Boss Ma said: Solely reminded is useless, this matter wants to solve, must first eliminate the aspect that Li Mu decided that therefore we must think the means to rise the matter to the situation that needing the third party acted to solve forcefully, first was separated from the Li Mu's control.” 马老板说:“单单提醒是没有用的,这件事想解决,就必须先剥夺李牧自己说了算的局面,所以我们必须想办法把事情上升到需要强力第三方出面解决的地步,先脱离李牧的掌控。” Lu Zhaoxi asked: „Do we want to bring a lawsuit with Muye Science and Technology?” 陆照喜问:“难道我们要跟牧野科技打官司?” Right!” Boss Ma said: „To solve this problem, must make the law enforcement participate, but this lawsuit cannot be we hits, must make more than 200 sellers join up to hit with Muye Science and Technology, we can show the way, unify them to them in the same place, even looks for the acting attorney plenary powers proxy to them, but we cannot act.” “对!”马老板说:“想解决这个问题,就必须让执法机关参与进来,不过这官司不能是我们来打,要让这两百多个卖家联合起来跟牧野科技打,我们可以给他们指路、把他们凝聚在一起,甚至给他们找代理律师全权代理,但是我们不能出面。” Lu Zhaoxi nods to say immediately: I understood.” 陆照喜当即点头道:“我懂了。” Boss Ma also said: Actually this issue very can be solved, didn't Li Mu say the Taobao seller YY actual authority on Taobao? ok, after more than 200 sellers sue the court together, making Muye Science and Technology produce the actual evidence to come, really has such a license agreement, explicitly explained Taobao seller YY all authorities have by Taobao . Moreover, light/only has the license agreement also by far insufficiently, but also wants the evidence, has a look for a long time, is who and manages Taobao seller YY in the actual operation, if actual all operation operations are responsible for by Muye Science and Technology, his excuse collapses of itself, even he fabricates a license agreement not significance.” 马老板又说:“其实这问题很好解决,李牧不是说淘宝卖家yy的实际管理权在淘宝手上吗?ok,两百多卖家共同起诉到法院之后,让牧野科技拿出实际的证据来,是不是真有这么一份授权协议,明确说明了淘宝卖家yy的一切管理权由淘宝掌握,另外,光有授权协议还远远不够,还要调查取证,看看这么长时间来,到底是谁在实际运营和管理淘宝卖家yy,如果实际的一切运营操作还是由牧野科技来负责,那他的说辞就不攻自破,就算他伪造出一份授权协议也没有意义。” Lu Zhaoxi said with a smile: If is really more than 200 sellers considers Muye Science and Technology jointly, I believe that Li Mu recognizes certainly immediately instigates the reconciliation, because of his Muye Science and Technology now in critical phase of outbound expansion, if suddenly became the objects of more than 200 person jointly prosecutions, the influence of that this negative report may be possible to be small greatly, was not he can control specifically.” 陆照喜笑道:“如果真是两百多卖家联名告牧野科技,我相信李牧一定会立刻认怂和解,因为他的牧野科技现在正在海外扩张的关键阶段,如果一下子成了两百多人联名起诉的对象,那这个负面新闻的影响可大可小,具体就不是他能控制得了的了。” Right.” Boss Ma slight nod: Took advantage that this opportunity, making him probably to take the entire situation into account to make the compromise, so long as Muye Science and Technology makes the compromise, later has similar matter, to have similar seller again, we will dig more convenient, will be also easier to transform these seller's beforehand customers to our LeTao comes up!” “没错。”马老板微微点头:“就趁这个机会,让他必须为顾全大局而做出妥协,只要牧野科技做出妥协,以后再有类似的事情、再有类似的卖家,我们挖过来就会更方便,而且也更容易把这些卖家之前的客户转化到我们的乐淘上来!” Saying, Boss Ma excitedly, said earnestly: Zhaoxi, told each person of team, critical moment everyone cannot certainly be lax, must clench the teeth, all -out effort full power, fought a brilliant turnaround while this opportunity! Can LeTao bring back to life, looked at this weaponry!” 说着,马老板激动了起来,认真说道:“照喜,告诉团队的每一个人,关键时刻大家一定不能松懈,要咬紧牙关、拼劲全力,趁着这个机会打一个漂亮的翻身仗!乐淘能不能起死回生,就看这一仗了!”
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