MLSIAI :: Volume #7

#606: Interesting attempt

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After journey Xiaoyu sent this song, there are innumerable busybody toxicants, but toxicant ten thousand years of diving piece, as if since sends that has renewed non-periodically, on the trail did not have, regarding general „medicinal powder” and message has not responded slightly. 在程晓羽发了这篇细语之后,也有无数的好事者毒药,但是毒药这个万年潜水段子手,似乎自从发过那条不定期更新之后,就踪迹全无了,对于广大“药粉”的和留言丝毫没有回应。 This lets eat the melon people generally disappointedly, the time must ripping compared with king „toxicant” unexpectedly not make noise with others rip compared with, the level was not with the toxicant rips compared with high, these came time fiercely, many people are anticipating a fierce struggle between two evenly matched opponents, a result person to write the paper discussion folk music, what solid stuff has not taken, does not dare to leave repeatedly. 这让广大吃瓜群众大为失望,次次都要和别人撕比的撕比王“毒药”居然不出声,原本和毒药撕比的水平都算不上高,这一次来了个厉害的,很多人都在期待一番龙争虎斗,结果一个人写了篇论文探讨民乐,什么干货都没有拿出来,一个连声都不敢出。 journey Xiaoyu sees innumerably „medicinal powder” in „toxicant” under the song leaves a message: „Toxicant, journey Xiaoyu shouted that you came out to rip the ratio!” Also is somewhat speechless, very responded evidently does not seem good. 程晓羽看见无数的“药粉”在“毒药”的细语下面留言:“毒药,程晓羽喊你出来撕比了！”也是有些无语,看样子好不回应似乎也不好。 journey Xiaoyu was busy at an evening writing the music score, but also calls deserted/few Dong can, asking the chief to help invite a wind instrument music expert to come. journey Xiao feather this belongs from the atrocities purely is, oneself hit happy this that the slap in the face hits not other, unique no other semicolon. 程晓羽忙了一晚上写谱子,还打了电话给廖东能,请院长帮忙邀请一个管乐高手过来。只是程晓羽这纯粹属于自虐行为,自己打自己耳光打的乐此不彼的,也独此一家别无分号了。 Next day was in the network more people joined the discussion incessantly, even the complaint call of GG music network was hit to explode, where was asking „toxicant” to go to? Called him the coming out upfront hardly just journey Xiaoyu. 第二天不止是网络上更多的人加入了讨论,连gg音乐网的投诉电话都被打爆了,都是问“毒药”去哪里了？叫他出来正面硬刚程晓羽的。 journey Xiaoyu has thought purely is a beautiful, the fusion not necessarily is not a beautiful. 程晓羽一直认为纯粹是一种美,融合未必也不是一种美。 Next day, journey Xiaoyu asked summer Shamo to come to his home, asked Su Yu to ask for leave. 第二天,程晓羽就叫来了夏纱沫来他家,又叫苏虞兮请了假。 deserted/few Dong can, although has not gone to the hospital to look at the process dawn feather, but also sent the message to him, starting on a journey dawn feather that he looks at, therefore helped invite „on the play's first to blow” Teacher Guo Ya directly, Representative Guo Ya highest level of Huaxia folk music wind instrument music performance, the suona, he invented the live core of suona particularly, causing the suona can the transposition performance also play the cromatic scale, is expert rank character who deserved. 廖东能虽然没去医院看过程晓羽,但是也给他发了短信,他是十分看的起程晓羽的,因此直接帮忙请来了“上戏第一吹”郭亚老师,郭亚代表了华夏民乐管乐演奏的最高水平,尤其是唢呐,他发明了唢呐的活芯,使得唢呐可以变调演奏并且吹奏半音阶,是当之无愧的大拿级别人物。 Actually even if deserted/few Dong can invite Guo Ya personally, Guo Ya or show due respect for the feelings, can still decline, but when heard that is helps journey Xiaoyu, Guo Ya pondered, complied. His student of yesterday, where journey Xiaoyu did write is at " national music as well as Our country that national music popular future? » Has issued him to look, therefore he is also very curious to journey Xiaoyu the opinion. 其实就算是廖东能亲自去请郭亚,郭亚要不给面子,也可以推辞,但当听说是帮程晓羽的时候,郭亚思考了一下,还是答应了。昨天的他的学生,把程晓羽写的这篇《民族音乐以及我国民族音乐流行化的未来在哪？》已经发给他看了,因此他对程晓羽的见解也很是好奇。 9 : 00 am, journey Xiaoyu asked family's drivers to go to the play to take deserted/few Dong to be able with Guo Ya, when deserted/few Dong can arrive at with Guo Ya time, journey Xiaoyu sits the wheelchair to be pushed the entrance to meet two teachers by Su Yu. 上午 9 点,程晓羽就叫家里的司机去上戏接了廖东能和郭亚,等廖东能和郭亚到的时候,程晓羽坐着轮椅被苏虞兮推着去了门口接两位老师。 deserted/few Dong can see journey Xiaoyu long time not to recognize at first sight, the facial features are vaguely similar, but the face value disparity was too big, is initiative the sound said until journey Xiao the feather: „Dean deserted/few is good, Professor Guo.” He can determine that now front this delicate delicate and pretty male student truly is journey Xiaoyu. 廖东能乍一看见程晓羽还半晌没认出来,眉眼依稀相似,但颜值差距实在太大了,直到程晓羽主动出声道:“廖院长好,郭教授好。”他才敢确定如今面前这个清秀俊美的男生确实是程晓羽。 Exchanged greetings after several, journey Xiaoyu invited two to go to his recording room visit, both teachers know that journey Xiaoyu the status, has not found it about the luxury of his family/home strange, but lived at to him however has the so specialized recording room to exclaim in surprise greatly. 寒暄几句过后,程晓羽邀请了两位去他的录音室参观,两位老师都知道程晓羽的身份,对他家的奢华并没有觉得奇怪,但是对他家居然有如此专业的录音室大为惊叹。 After visit, journey Xiaoyu asked two teachers to sit down in his work room, the servant end came the tea and dessert, journey Xiaoyu smiles saying: „Today please two teachers come, mainly wants to chat the folk music, studies how takes into the modern music the folk music, for example the Knight, the rock and roll, the electricity sound wait/etc, I thinks that the modern music union folk music is the trend, what first I must say is the national musical instrument is not equal to the national music, «Yellow River Piano concerto» should be one of the most convincing examples. We know this song not everyone generally thinks „ is themed opposing Japan piano concerto of creation”. Although the song has not used any Chinese Nationality musical instrument truly, the words that I have not remembered incorrectly are 2 nd touch vement introduction that section a little bamboo flute merely, but «Yellow River Piano concerto» song non- ordinary mail Daya showed the charm of Huaxia national music. Although «Yellow River Piano concerto» also utilized romanticist period many characteristics of piano concerto, for example receives rahmanino absolutely affect( Rachmaninov) powerful, the cross eight degrees pianos are colorful. However I and many overseas scholars think that was «Yellow River Piano concerto» conducted many promotions to the Huaxia national music. Therefore should be able saying that although almost useless use nationality musical instrument, but this music, it made the Chinese national music move into the world absolutely. Second, use ” these opinions about national musical instrument is to stem from journey Xiaoyu unifies the future music development trend to summarize, it can be said that quite correct direction. 参观完毕之后,程晓羽请了两位老师在他的工作室坐下,佣人端来茶和点心,程晓羽笑了笑说道:“今天请两位老师来,主要是想聊一聊民乐,研究如何将民乐带进现代音乐,比如爵士,摇滚,电音等等,我认为现代音乐结合民乐是趋势,首先我要讲的是民族乐器并不等于民族音乐,《黄河钢琴协奏曲》应该是最有说服力的例子之一。我们都知道这个曲子并不是大家通常认为的“以抗日为主题创作的钢琴协奏曲”。虽然曲子本身没有真正用到任何中国民族乐器,我没记错的话仅仅是2nd摸vement引子那段儿有一点竹笛而已,但是《黄河钢琴协奏曲》曲子本身非常信达雅地展现了华夏民族音乐的魅力。虽然《黄河钢琴协奏曲》还运用了浪漫主义时期的钢琴协奏曲的很多特征,比如说绝对受rahmanino(拉赫玛尼诺夫)影响的有力的,跨八度的钢琴华彩。但是我和很多国外学者都认为是《黄河钢琴协奏曲》对华夏民族音乐进行了多处推广。所以应该可以说,虽然几乎没用使用民族乐器,但这首乐曲,它绝对让中国民族音乐走向了世界。第二,关于民族乐器的使用”这些见解都是源于程晓羽自己结合未来的音乐发展趋势所总结出来的,可以说是比较正确的方向。 When journey Xiaoyu said that Guo Ya complexion complex looked at deserted/few Dong to say: „Director journey is never so expected that profound to the opinion of folk music, making my teacher somewhat ashamed!” Here Guo Ya has not called journey Xiao the feather is a schoolmate, is to the approval of journey Xiao feather ability. 等程晓羽说完,郭亚面色复杂的看了廖东能一眼说道:“没想到程总监对民乐的见解都如此深刻,让我这个老师都有些惭愧啊！”这里郭亚没有称呼程晓羽为同学,是对程晓羽能力的认可。 Must pay attention to this crest of wave soon to cover on the student of entire play as the teacher on play, where yesterday journey Xiaoyu " national music and future of Our country national music popular was at? » This song just a round, his student issued him, asking him to have a look, the content that in the article said that they know as the colleagues, the words that but has not said that were all pierced by journey Xiaoyu, but Guo Ya, although approved journey Xiaoyu the opinion, he actually cannot jump the support, after all journey Xiaoyu dares saying that was because he was not the person in folk music circle. 做为上戏的老师不可能不关注这个风头快要盖过整个上戏的学生,昨天程晓羽的《民族音乐以及我国民族音乐流行化的未来在哪？》这篇细语刚一发,他的学生就发给他了,叫他看看,文中所说的内容,他们作为圈内人士都知道,但没说出来的话,全被程晓羽捅破了,但郭亚虽然认同程晓羽的言论,他却不能跳出来支持,毕竟程晓羽敢说,是因为他并不算民乐圈子里的人。 The development direction of folk music has been controversial, journey Xiaoyu said in the principle had not but proposed that plan of solution, Guo Yadun one refuted journey Xiaoyu saying: „Actually in the national music also has the quite thin division. The guzheng guqin is the completely different channels. The populace music, the characteristics, are new, because means the stimulation freshly, the stimulation brings the pleasant sensation, but is fresh, means the warranty unknown. However the serious music, or is the writer music, underwent the test of history, they more pays great attention to the energetic endosarc, pays great attention to ponder. Therefore the music of young numerous, under elutriation of time, changes not in a big way, because the beautiful essence will not become too quickly, the warranty will be very long. As for additional jazz way, is not unrecommendable, but likes. The time will naturally fall not good elimination. Can remain, is the classics.” Here Guo Ya viewpoint was journey Xiaoyu post had actually said yesterday evening, the folk music did not need popular the viewpoint. 民乐的发展方向一直都有争议,程晓羽说的在理但也没有提出解决的方案,郭亚顿了一顿反驳程晓羽道:“其实民族音乐里面也有很多比较细的划分。古筝古琴就属于完全不同的频道。大众音乐,有一个特点,就是新鲜,因为新鲜意味着刺激,刺激带来快感,但过于新鲜,就意味着保质期未知。但是严肃音乐,或者说是文人音乐,是经过了历史检验的,它们会更多的注重精神内质,注重思考。所以小众的音乐,在时间的淘洗之下,变化不大,因为美的本质不会变得太快,保质期很长。至于加爵士乐这种方式,不是不可取,只是喜欢不喜欢而已。时间自然会将不好的淘汰掉。能够留下来的,才是经典。”这里郭亚的观点其实就是程晓羽昨天晚上帖子里说过的,民乐不需要流行化的观点。 deserted/few Dong can also read journey Xiaoyu the post, continued saying: „Although I the understanding the folk music am not profound, but uses temporarily as me to offer a few ordinary introductory remarks so that others may offer their valuable ideas, I also thought that takes into the modern music the folk music, for example the Knight, the rock and roll, the electricity sound definitely is not the outlet of folk music, instead with the relative rock and roll and so on outlet of music. Mixes with Latin and to mix with the writings in classical style in English in the vernacular literature, does not cause the attempt that Latin and writings in classical style keep pace with the times, but wants to make us seem like the comparison to have the attempt of culture. Actually finally, conclusion to an unsolved problem: Globalization regarding the impact of local culture. „ Americanization” / „does McDonald's melt” „global localization” ( gloalisation )? I favor the former. Our societies still hold the intense modernized impulsion. The music is unable to be separated from its social property to exist, how you can request to rush about in the steel bar forest and every day people who long for eliminating the charm, can «Fishing boat Sing spontaneously Late»? Regarding most people, the folk music, like causes the corresponding social ecology that the folk music is born, they most is a symbol „fresh” embellishment, one type like Chinese medicine „replace medicine”, one type „substitute „. Fait accompli ; Therefore after is fresh, but must return daily.” 廖东能也看了程晓羽的帖子,接过话题说道:“虽然我对民乐的了解不深刻,但权当我抛砖引玉,我也觉得将民乐带进现代音乐,比如爵士,摇滚,电音肯定不是民乐的出路,反而是与之相对的摇滚乐之类音乐的出路。在英文当中夹杂拉丁语、在白话文中夹杂文言文,绝不是使拉丁语、文言文与时俱进的尝试,只是想让我们自己看起来比较有文化的尝试。其实最后,又还是归结到一个老问题:全球化对于本土文化的冲击。“美国化”/“麦当劳化”还是“全球本土化”(gloalisation)？我倾向于前者。我们这个社会依然保有强烈的现代化冲动。音乐无法脱离其社会属性存在,你如何能要求奔波在钢筋森林、每日渴望除魅的人们,能够自发地《渔舟唱晚》？对于大多数人来说,民乐,如同使民乐诞生的相应社会生态,它们最多是一种象征“新鲜”的点缀,一种如同中医的“替代医学”,一种“替代品“。木已成舟了;因此新鲜过后,还要回到日常。” Su Yu supports certainly journey Xiao the feather about the viewpoint that the folk music needs to innovate, said that „music many Yuan, cannot die by the traditional fetter and frame, many music that for example my brother makes, not only manifests the classical musical instrument acoustic fidelity individual beauty, inherits, and prominent rhythmic, perfectly conforms to the modern fragmentation, the life of quick rhythm. For example adds the urheen to express the melancholy moved music with the piano to be unapproachable, these attempts are very easily accept by the young people and westerner” 苏虞兮当然支持程晓羽关于民乐需要革新的观点,说道“音乐很多元,不能被传统束缚和框死,例如我哥所做的很多音乐,既体现古典乐器音质独特之美,继承过去,又突出节奏性,非常符合现代碎片化,快节奏的生活。比如用钢琴加二胡来表达忧郁伤感的音乐就无可匹敌,这些尝试都是很容易被年轻人和西方人所接受的” Several people incomparably intense will discuss extended classically with the modern age above, was the professional, naturally said also very profound. 几个人又无比激烈的将讨论延伸到了古典与现代上面,都是专业人士,自然说的也十分的深刻。 Guo Ya has not thought completely is not only journey Xiaoyu has the experience, this pop star younger sister spoke such operating from a strategically advantageous position to be well-founded, the soft rib of long jab folk music, the soil was getting more and more thin, his sinking sound said: „Although does not want to acknowledge, but truly the outlet of learn/study folk music compared with studying narrow many of non-Chinese musical instruments, except for choice keeping after school, few people can go to the specialized orchestra, majority changed professions, I many schoolmates chose were engaged in other industries, the folk music can only become the hobby. Studies the Western world happily is engaged in this specialized schoolmate being on the contrary many in the proportion.” 郭亚完全没有想到不仅仅是程晓羽有见识,就连这个偶像明星妹妹说话都如此的高屋建瓴有理有据,直击民乐的软肋,土壤越来越稀薄,他沉声说道:“虽然不想承认,但确实学习民乐的出路要比学习西洋乐器的窄的多,除了选择留校,只有极少数人能去专业的乐团,大部分都转行了,我又不少同学都选择了从事其他行业,民乐只能成为爱好。学西洋乐的从事本专业的同学反倒在比例上多很多。” At this time some people knocked on a door, journey Xiaoyu turned the head to see summer Shamo to arrive, smiles saying: „Said uselessly, today asks Teacher Guo to come, makes an interesting attempt, we try to have a look at the folk music to reorganize, can have the marvelous chemical reaction, this is a music score that I wrote yesterday, mixed to build with many styles southern Hunan folk song, arranged a song, because must draw support from Teacher Guo the strong playing skill, therefore asks Teacher Guo to come today specially.” Then gave Guo Ya the music score. 这个时候有人敲门,程晓羽转头看见夏纱沫已经到了,笑了笑说道:“多说无益,今天请郭老师过来,就是做一次有趣的尝试,我们来试看看将民乐改编一下,会不会产生奇妙的化学反应,这是我昨天写的一个谱子,将湘南民歌用多种风格混搭,编了一个曲子,因为要借助郭老师强大的吹奏功力,所以今天特意请了郭老师过来。”接着把谱子递给了郭亚。 The music score prepared four, gave Su Yu, she is responsible for the piano part, gave summer Shamo, she is responsible for singing, but Guo Ya is responsible for the suona and pipe, but journey Xiaoyu was responsible for the electricity sound part. 谱子准备了四份,一份递给了苏虞兮,她负责钢琴部分,一份给了夏纱沫,她负责演唱,而郭亚则负责唢呐和管子,而程晓羽则负责了电音部分。 deserted/few Dong can meet the music score of process dawn feather, looked at him to write any interesting music, looked at the song name, was startled. 廖东能接过程晓羽的谱子,看他写了一个什么有趣的音乐,一看歌名,大吃一惊。 Is the professional, four people rubbish, immediately started the practice. 都是专业人士,四个人也没有废话,当即开始了练习. ( Thanked former days wind big red packet)( to be continued.) (谢谢旧日的风的大红包)(未完待续。)
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