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#42: Philosophy, poetry and love ( 2 )

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journey Xiaoyu first is stunned, then recalls that time with Su Yu philosophy dialogue, he forgot powerful Su Yu is the philosophy young girl. 程晓羽先是愕然,然后记起那次与苏虞兮的哲学对话,他忘记了强大的苏虞兮是个哲学少女。 What if the poetry biggest enemy is? Naturally is not the politics, the politics dominates above the poetry. Essentially the philosophy is the poetry biggest enemy.( Stan? Rison pointed out: „In " Republic of Plato » volume ten, Socrates mentioned has the struggle numerous issues of philosophy and poem for a long time.” „From the political view, the philosophy and poem with for part of city-state tool, is not higher than the poem.” „Philosophy is more superior than the poem, lies in it can with the intelligence explain thing that understands. However, the poem truly is better than the philosophy in common subconsciousness intelligent.” Stan? Rowson, Zhang Hui is translating «Poem And Philosophy Struggle of». Naturally the argument here we of poetry and philosophy are not making the elaboration, this is really an incomparably complex matter.) 如果说诗歌最大的敌人是什么？当然不是政治,政治凌驾于诗歌之上。本质上来说哲学才是诗歌最大的敌人。(斯坦里?里森指出:“在《理想国》卷十,苏格拉底提及长期存在哲学与诗的争纷问题。”“从政治观点来看,哲学与诗同为城邦工具的一部分,并不高于诗。”“哲学之所以比诗优越,就在于它可以用智能来解释所理解的东西。然而,诗在寻常的诗性智能方面确实优于哲学。”斯坦里?罗森著,张辉译《诗与哲学之争》。当然诗歌与哲学的争论这里我们不在多做论述,这实在是个无比复杂的事情。) When journey Xiao feather this school most outstanding poet takes the poetry to reply Su Yu this school best B philosopher issue, without doubt Chef in Huaxia points at China to attend to reply France the master chef, in the world what vegetable/dish is most delicious is the same. 所以当程晓羽这个本校最杰出的诗人拿着诗歌来回答苏虞兮这个本校最牛B的哲学家问题的时候,无疑于华夏厨师指着中华料理回答法国大厨,世界上什么菜是最好吃的一样。 What is more fearful is the view of love of philosopher, saying to be a history of blood and tears. 更可怕的是哲学家的爱情观,说出来都是一部血泪史。 When journey Xiaoyu remembered attended the university has a teacher once to tell such a story: She has a big Senior Sister is the philosophy professor of some university, the person very attractively, has the car(riage) to have the room, the family property is also quite good, but does not marry. Many people regret incomparably for her, but she is never actually serious. This teacher said person who does the philosophy truly a little „demented” shape, has the significant difference from the average man. Having a fellow villager is the philosophy professor of some university, the fame is very big, is current educational world „north Li Nanzhao” one of the characters. He a few years ago passed away, lived 74 years old, life-long has not married. 程晓羽记得读大学时有位老师曾讲过这么一个故事:她有一位大师姐是某大学的哲学教授,人长得非常漂亮,有车有房,家底也比较不错,可是不结婚。很多人都为她惋惜无比,可她自己却从来不当一回事。这位老师说真正搞哲学的人有点“癫狂”状,和常人有明显区别。有位老乡是某大学的哲学教授,名气很大,是当今学界“北李南赵”中的人物之一。他前些年去世了,活了七十四岁,终生未娶。 We are familiar also has Schopenhauer, Conde wait/etc is the old and alone person is also lifelong. This kind of phenomenon looks like in journey Xiaoyu is understandable, has been unalarmed by strange sights. Is the philosopher not marriage old and alone person life-long the exceptions or the common phenomenon? Do the philosophers have the love? It looks like this in journey Xiaoyu truly is the issue that is worth exploring, even can bring the proposition of making the paper. 我们熟悉的还有叔本华、康德等等也是孤老终身。这类现象在程晓羽看来是可以理解的,早已见怪不怪了。哲学家不结婚孤老终生到底是个别现象还是普遍现象？哲学家到底有没有爱情？在程晓羽看来这确实是值得探讨的问题,甚至可以拿来做论文的命题。 Big grandmaster Socrates of philosophy looked for one „vixen” to be the madame, in his words to train and test own bearing capacity extremely containment capability. The history book records Socrates ‚fresh dies very much ugly very much beautifully’, in addition multi-correlations the description of his appearance, it seems like he has not grown is quite perhaps abstract. Has also brought regarding his love and marriage carelessly. He is an interpreter rather than an author, will depend entirely on his two disciples to let his celebrities eternity. Why will he elect „vixen” to be a wife? Really said like him tests itself, is only the excuse? 哲学界的大宗师苏格拉底找了一个“泼妇”做夫人,用他自己的话讲是为了锻炼和考验自己的承受能力极其包容能力。史书记载苏格拉底‘生的很丑死得很美’,此外并没有更多相关他长相的描述,看来他长得也许比较抽象。对于他的爱情、婚姻也是草草带过。他本人是述而不作的,全靠他的两位弟子让他名流千古。他为什么会选“泼妇”为妻？真的诚如他所说考验自己,还是只是借口？ Socrates is because lives too ugly can only look for the vixen, then Conde is completely different. It is said Conde is long quite handsome, a German «World Journal» article said that Kenisibao the vision of young ladies' has pursued is putting on refined and humorous charming Conde, but Conde is always maintaining certain distance to the female. It is said Conde has unrequited loved Keyser Count Link's wife who the middle age is losing one's spouse in the past, but this solemn beautiful aristocrat madame also has the heart of admire to Conde. But because of the hierarchical system, they have not arrived at the same place, after the Countess remarries another aristocrat, Conde has not had the contact with any female again. There is no alternative but to make people think Jin Yuelin and Lin Wei ying story. Conde in the philosophy and realm of thought is the legendary giant, but has no legend in its life and love, like Heine said that he „does not have the life, does not have experience”. 苏格拉底是因为生得太丑只能找泼妇,那么康德就完全不一样了。据说康德是长得比较英俊的,德国《世界报》的一篇文章介绍说,科尼斯堡的年轻女士们的眼光一直追逐着穿着雅致、幽默风趣的康德,但康德对女性总是保持着一定的距离。据说康德当年一直暗恋着中年丧偶的凯塞林克伯爵夫人,而这位端庄美丽的贵族夫人对康德也存有爱慕之心。但因等级制度,两人始终没走到一起,在伯爵夫人改嫁另一贵族后,康德再也没有与任何女性有过接触。这不能不让人想起金岳霖和林薇英的故事。康德在哲学和思想领域是个传奇巨人,但在其生活和爱情方面没有任何传奇可言,诚如海涅说他“既无生活,也无经历”。 Philosophers the love to wisdom is the average man is inconceivable, this love exceeds everyone who he loved, even can for the knowledge and for wisdom „dying for justice”. Will see such sentence in the preface of many philosophy famous work, ‚he utilizes Yu domain the energy that he must win’, ‚he offers the lifetime to such and such divisions/disciplines’. This is not the smalltalk, does not think highly, at least in the philosophy world is this, there is many such „martyr”. 哲学家们对智慧的爱是常人难以想象的,这种爱胜过了他爱的所有人,甚至可以为知识、为智慧“殉道”。在很多哲学名著的序言里会看到这样的句子,‘他将他必胜的精力运用于某某领域’,‘他将毕生奉献给了某某学科’。这不是客套,更不是恭维,至少在哲学世界里是这样的,有许多这样的“殉道者”。 Philosophy history is a war history, philosophy is the battlefield that slaughters, violent debate, the successor always steps on forever on the countless white bones of predecessor: The theoretical systems and theory times were overthrown are established once again inferiorly, endless. Each philosopher is a warrior, is a martyr. They in overthrowing the foundation of others theory establish the theory system, a fierce battle always cannot avoid ; But theory system that he establishes also inevitable will be attacked by others, sooner or later must always but actually, therefore became the martyr. 哲学史是一部战争史,哲学界永远是厮杀的战场,唇枪舌剑,后来人总是踩在前人的累累白骨上:理论体系、学说一次次被推倒又一次次被建立,永无止尽。每一个哲学家都是勇士,又都是烈士。他们是在推翻别人学说的基础上建立自己学说体系的,一场恶战总免不了;而他建立的学说体系也无可避免的会遭到别人的攻击,迟早总是要倒的,于是成了烈士。 Looks at Su Yu the incomparably earnest face, journey Xiaoyu only knows, this school most fearful two sickness patients are not others, is his unlovable younger sister. 看着苏虞兮无比认真的脸庞,程晓羽这才知道,这个学校最可怕的中二病患者不是别人,正是他那一点都不可爱的妹妹。 journey Xiaoyu pushed eyeglasses on bridge of the nose, he has changed attractive PRADA black square eyeglasses, however cannot increase what air of scholarly refinement on his fat face. Perhaps changes individual to interrogate like this journey Xiaoyu, he will close to a smile. However he actually does not want to admit defeat facing this proud tender younger sister. 程晓羽推了推架在鼻梁上的眼镜,他已经换了一副好看的PRADA黑色方框眼镜,然而架在他的胖脸上增加不了什么书卷气。或许换个人这样质问程晓羽,他会一笑置之。但是面对这个傲娇的妹妹他却不想认输。 journey Xiaoyu thinks under said „you mean to call me uses the rational philosophy to ponder the perceptual love? Tells you like Nietzsche said that the woman is „ how dangerous, stealthy small carnivore that sneaks”. The love foundation is „between both sexes absolutely irreconcilable hatred”, is „a deficiency of pair of soul” ; The marriage was „ended short crazy, replaced it with long stupidity”. Look, as a philosopher, I can get rid of the occupation, woman, child, motherland and belief gains the freedom? To these great philosophers, the love is the best eugenics. Because the love is the deceitful trick of nature, therefore, the marriage is to the elimination of love, and will certainly cause to vanish. Only the philosopher can obtain the happiness in marriage, but the philosopher never marries. ” Said finally, journey Xiaoyu also towards Su Yu revealed „looked, this was a cold joke!” Such expression. 程晓羽想了下说道“你的意思是叫我用理性的哲学去思考感性的爱情？像尼采说的那样告诉你,女人是“多么危险的、鬼鬼祟祟的、潜行的小小食肉动物”。爱情的基础是“两性之间不共戴天的仇恨”、是“一对灵魂的贫乏”;结婚是“终结了短促的疯狂,代之以漫长的愚蠢”。瞧,做为一个哲学家,我必须摆脱职业、女人、孩子、祖国和信仰而获得自由？对那些伟大的哲学家来说,爱情就是最好的优生学。因为爱情是大自然的骗术,所以,婚姻就是对爱情的消灭,并必将导致幻灭。只有哲学家才能获得婚姻上的幸福,可是哲学家从不结婚。”说道最后,程晓羽还朝苏虞兮露出了“瞧,这就是个冷笑话！”这样的表情。 Su Yu the basis pays no attention to the humor that journey Xiaoyu thinks oneself infallible, cold sound said „the love essence does not admire mutually, but holds mutually. The nature is the animal instinct of person, afterward through the package of culture, had the outer covering of loving, the social institution, then had the marriage afterward. Therefore, please don't happiness of that love description, is great, then only happens by happy circumstance, loving is the desire, the general sexual desire performance in consciousness, if not for is aiming at some certain opposite sex, he considers for itself, leaves the phenomenon, but is the desire of seeking livehood( sexual desire instinct). But if the consciousness of sexual desire, toward some specific individual, is” being passed from generation to generation ” survival will.( After , a few words are Schopenhauer's viewpoint) ” 苏虞兮根本不理程晓羽自以为是的幽默,冷声道“爱情的实质不是互相爱慕,而是互相占有。性是人的动物本能,后来通过文化的包裹,有了爱的外壳,再后来社会制度化,便有了婚姻。所以,请别把爱情描写的那么美好,那么伟大,那么可遇而不可求,爱就是欲望,意识中的一般性欲表现,若不是针对着某一定的异性,那他只是为本身着想而已,离开现象来看,不过是求生的欲望(性欲的本能)。但若是性欲的意识,向着某特定的个人,则是”传宗接代”的生存意志。(后一段话是叔本华的观点)” journey Xiao feather fast replying „I with not liking stripping the nature, in " Sexology Three Theory » endings, Floyd is divided into three levels the love of human, briefly, the first level is completely to the opposite sex desire by the sexual excitement being produced, the second kind of basing on sexual attraction, among the opposite sexes of spiritual level appreciation affection the emotions of one-to-one correspondences, the third order is separated from the sexual desire in addition mutually completely, Plato that spiritual love ideological emotion. Naturally what Floyd advocates is the second type, based on the sexual attraction premise, in addition the inner world communicates the appreciation mutually, and hopes for a long time together among the opposite sexes of life the emotion. But the modern values make us despise the first type, yearned that the second type, sang praise to the third type. Perhaps the happy bright sentiment cannot be eternal, but that is not the reason that you denied it to have. Regardless of the love why, the love does not have the logic, fuzzy, sometimes even is unreasonable and wonderful. If you with have the logic, is clear, the philosophy of some supposing explained, is extremely whether weak? Also, you said my not love, then your love? In your opinion the ugly desire( nature) have you experienced?” 程晓羽快速的答道“我从来没有把性与爱剥离开来看,在《性学三论》结尾,弗洛伊德将人类的爱情分为三种层次,简单地说,第一层次是完全由性冲动产生的对异性的欲望,第二类是基于性吸引,外加相互精神层面欣赏喜爱的异性间一一对应的情感,第三类就是完全脱离性欲,柏拉图那种精神恋爱的思想情感。当然弗洛伊德提倡的是第二种,基于性吸引前提上的,加之精神世界互相沟通欣赏,并且希望长时间共同生活的异性之间情感。而现代的价值观让我们鄙视第一种,向往第二种,歌颂第三种。或许美好灿烂的感情不能够永恒,但那不是你否定它存在的理由。不论爱情缘何而起,爱情是没有逻辑的,模模糊糊的,有些时候甚至是无理而妙的。你如若用是有逻辑,是清楚的,是有假设的哲学来解释,是否太过幼稚？再说了,你说我未曾恋爱过,那么你恋爱过？在你看来丑陋的欲望(性)你经历过？” Regarding journey Xiaoyu ridiculed Su Yu rebuttal „I not to have the time to experience that animal instinct, that was the hobbies of your man. The main purpose of your love, is not the exchange of love, but holds pleasure of physical body. Therefore, vertical has the pure love, if lacks pleasure of carnal desire, the former is unable to give to make up or console. Otherwise, to some opposite sex with person of intense affection, if cannot obtain the exchange of love, can by holding pleasure of physical body is content. This may obtain the proof by all prerequisite marriage, the love of also being able buys by money or the material, even has the relations forcefully, respectful for left Zheng. In love party concerned's consciousness, even if did not have „ to produce specific children” this matter, but actually it is still all love true goal, achieves the method of this goal, but is the matter of set-off. But these faithful until death loves are the customs, they were used to this society to instill into to their moral outlook, they were used to shoulder this society to impose on their responsibility, they toed the line rather than because of the love. ” 对于程晓羽的讥讽苏虞兮则反唇相讥道“我没有时间体验那种原始的动物本能,那是你们男人的爱好。你们恋爱的主要目的,不是爱的交流,而是占有一肉体的享乐。所以,纵是却有纯洁的爱,若缺乏肉欲的享乐,前者也无法给予弥补或慰藉。反之,对某一异性怀着强烈喜爱的人,若得不到爱情的交流,也能以占有肉体的享乐而自甘。这可由所有的前置结婚获得证明,也可以由金钱或物质买来的爱情,甚至是强行发生关系,恭为左证。恋爱当事者的意识中,即使还没有“产生特定的子女”这回事,但实则它也是全体恋爱的真正目的,达到此目的的方法,不过是陪衬的事情而已。而那些从一而终的爱不过是习惯而已,他们习惯了这个社会灌输给他们的道德观,他们习惯了背负这个社会强加给他们的责任,他们只是循规蹈矩而不是因为爱。” „You are saying your father mother.” journey Xiaoyu silent moment, said gently „you thought you are not the crystallization of love, but is the penalty of nature.” “你在说你爸妈。”程晓羽沉默了片刻,又轻轻说道“你觉得你不是爱的结晶,而是性的惩罚。” Su Yu the complexion is a little pale, the stubbornness in look makes one take pity on. The intelligent philosopher often likes boring tip of cows horn, their biased by disciple energetic autonomy. When they at oneself spiritual level understood that the words of the world, will discover that this world full is the evil. 苏虞兮脸色有点苍白,眼神里的倔强让人怜惜。聪明的哲学家往往喜欢钻牛角尖,他们偏执的以圣徒精神自律。然而当他们以自己的精神层次去理解世人的话,会发现这个世界满是罪恶。 Su Yu the fingertip is twisting the edge of skirt, in the fair hand has clear meridians to reappear, her turning head say/way „looks like the love and is the philosophy proposition of having the inquisition value.” Then turns around to walk. 苏虞兮指尖捻着裙子的边缘,白皙的手上有一条条清晰的经络浮现,她扭头道“看来爱情并是一个具有探究价值的哲学命题。”接着转身就走。 journey Xiaoyu looks that lonely back does not know why a little loves dearly, he was not clear the superficial incomparably harmonious family that he places has had anything. Su Yu of complete steamroll average person was unable to console regarding such intelligence quotient. As crossing over, he also has sincere similar Su Yu the same lonely feeling. Su Yu lonely is the people is drunk I to awake alone, is a splendid steed actually rears in a pen in the flock of sheep. 程晓羽看着那孤单的背影不知为何有点心疼,他不清楚他身处的这个表面无比和睦的家庭发生过什么。对于这样智商已经完全碾压普通人的苏虞兮也无从劝慰。做为一个穿越者,他也有种深切的类似苏虞兮一样的孤单感。苏虞兮的孤独是众人皆醉我独醒,是一匹千里马却被圈养在羊群。 Sees Su Yu to walk away gradually, journey Xiao feather loud shouting „night gave my black eye, I actually seek for the light with it. This is we studies the significance of philosophy!” 见苏虞兮渐渐走远,程晓羽大声的喊道“黑夜给了我黑色的眼睛,我却用它来寻找光明。这才是我们学习哲学的意义！” Hears journey Xiao feather these words, Su Yu stops slightly, has not actually turned head. 听见程晓羽这句话,苏虞兮稍微停了停,却没有回头。 The winter sunlight likely transparent and cold ice corner, pricks in the limitless fog, attracting slowly permits its body. journey Xiaoyu looks at that happy back, rippling ponytail disappears in the boundary of field of vision, tears down that «The world's Most remote Distance», walks in another direction. 冬天的阳光像透明而寒冷的冰棱,刺入漫无边际的雾霭之中,缓缓的吸允它的躯体。程晓羽看着那美好的背影,荡漾的马尾消失在视界的边际,才撕下那篇《世界上最遥远的距离》,朝另一个方向走去。 The world's most remote distance, is a philosopher and a poet stands, actually in discussion love. 世界上最遥远的距离,是一个哲学家和一个诗人站在一起,却在讨论爱情。
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