MHAG :: Volume #3

#261: Theonia powerful secret? ( 1 )


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„, This is actually interesting!” Kanos smiles, subconscious takes a look at opposite man: The lanky stature, the thin and small face, with aquiline nose, frail shows nimble and resourceful makings. “哦,这倒是有趣!”卡尼奥斯笑了笑,下意识的打量对面的男子:瘦长的身材,瘦小的脸,配一个鹰钩鼻子,文弱中透出一股灵动的气质。 Discovered that Kanos is visiting him, that person is on the rise, says with a smile: I have seen you in the Thurii distinguished guest hotel, I called Siprus, from Terina.” 发现卡尼奥斯在看他,那人抬起头,笑道:“我在图里伊的贵宾旅馆里见过你,我叫西普洛斯,来自特里纳。” Kanos hesitant, said low voice: „...... I come from...... Elliade.” 卡尼奥斯犹豫了一下,小声说道:“……我来自……埃利亚。” „, Elliade.” Siprus is not quite as if surprised, he is sizing up Kanos, earnest saying: I have gone to Elliade several times, said that our Terina and your Elliade have the same difficult position, the Terina territory are attacked by Bruttians frequently, but Elliade has been surrounded by Lucanians. Stated differently, we have the allied country to support behind, but you can only battle most of the time alone.” “哦,埃利亚。”西普洛斯似乎并不太吃惊,他打量着卡尼奥斯,认真的说道:“我去过埃利亚几次,说起来我们特里纳和你们埃利亚有相同的困境,特里纳的领地经常遭受布鲁提人的侵袭,而埃利亚一直被卢卡尼亚人包围。不同的是,我们身后有盟邦支持,而你们大多数时候只能独自作战。” The Siprus words spoke in the Kanos mind, this having same problem feeling let him to Brosses had the favorable impression, the body unconscious to the leans forward leaning. 西普洛斯的话说到了卡尼奥斯的心坎上,这种同病相怜的感觉让他对西布洛斯心生好感,身子不自觉的向前倾了倾。 You represent Elliade, comes to request reinforcements to Theonia.” Siprus also said. “你是代表埃利亚,来向戴奥尼亚求援的吧。”西普洛斯又说道。 Kanos again hesitant, immediately said: Elliade is seeks with Theonia forms an alliance......” 卡尼奥斯再次犹豫了一下,随即说道:“埃利亚是来寻求与戴奥尼亚结盟的……” Siprus saw his worry, he of comfort said: Do not worry, Theonia handles certainly jointly with you to form an alliance!” 西普洛斯看出了他的顾虑,安慰的他说:“别担心,戴奥尼亚一定会同你们结盟!” Siprus stuns the world, Kanos hears word shakes, over the two days he in Thurii, experienced the great strength and prosperous of Theonian, starts to be somewhat worried: Small and weak Elliade cannot arouse the Theonia interest, is not willing to provoke fierce Lucanians. 西普洛斯语出惊人,卡尼奥斯闻言一震,这两天他在图里伊,见识了戴奥尼亚人的强大和繁荣,就开始有些担心:弱小的埃利亚引不起戴奥尼亚的兴趣,不愿招惹凶恶的卢卡尼亚人 At this moment, he regardless the alert, is busy at asking: Why did you affirm?” 此刻,他抛开戒备,忙问:“为什么你这么肯定?” „Very important because of the Elliade position.” Siprus grips together the fripe with the pegwood, throws into the mouth, after careful chewing, said: Helps Theonia unify the Lucania area.” “因为埃利亚所处的位置十分重要。”西普洛斯用木签扎起一块牛肚,扔进嘴里,细细的嘴嚼之后,说道:“有利于戴奥尼亚统一卢卡利亚地区。” Theonia wants to seize the entire Lucania area, how is this possible?!” Kanos is startled. 戴奥尼亚想要占领整个卢卡利亚地区,这怎么可能?!”卡尼奥斯大吃一惊。 This has certainly the possibility very much. The regime of Theonia decided great ambition that it expands.” On the Siprus face has the complex facial expression, very affirmative saying. “这当然很有可能。戴奥尼亚的政体决定了它扩张的雄心。”西普洛斯脸上带着复杂的神情,十分肯定的说道。 You said-” Kanos was suddenly enlighted, looked at the surroundings, lowered the head said low voice: Theonia has an overstepping authority lord.” Has to overstep authority main city-state always cruel greedy and aggressive, dozens years ago overstepping authority of Syracuse lord Gloon and successor Eilon, Rhegion once overstepping authority main flatter that Kesey Russ, present Dionysius, proved this point one after another. “你是说-”卡尼奥斯恍然大悟,看了看周围,低头小声说道:“戴奥尼亚拥有一个僭主。”拥有僭主的城邦总是残暴贪婪和富有侵略性的,无论是几十年前锡拉库扎的僭主格隆和后继者希埃隆、利吉姆曾经的僭主阿那克西拉斯、还是现在的狄奥尼修斯,都相继证明了这一点。 Siprus shakes the head. He is a person who is good at pondering, since previous time goes abroad on a diplomatic mission Theonia, stemming from the curiosity of this emerging alliance, he continuously the reason that analyzes its rapid rise: Not is completely this, I do not know that Theonia archon Davos is an overstepping authority lord, although he is the highest hierarch of Theonia army, has the sacrificial offering power, simultaneously is the highest administrative manager of city-state alliance, but as highest authority organization council Princeps senatus, he has big influence, actually does not want to make anything to make anything. His proposal also needs the council senior statesmen to agree can pass. Alliance the appointment of senior civil servants must undergo the election of council, although he has the negative power. Starts important important matter that the war and realizes the peace also by council collective decision. Like the overstepping authority lord cannot easily decide that the life and death of citizen, his behavior was still bound by alliance law. However, compares the Sparta king and democracy city-state generals, he has a bigger power is without a doubt......” 西普洛斯摇摇头。他是个善于思考的人,自从上次出使戴奥尼亚之后,出于对这个新兴联盟的好奇,他一直在分析它迅速崛起的原因:“并不完全是这样,我不知道戴奥尼亚执政官戴弗斯算不算一个僭主,虽然他是戴奥尼亚军队的最高掌权者,又拥有祭祀权,同时又是城邦联盟的最高行政管理者,但是作为最高权力机构元老院的首席元老,他有很大的影响力,却并不是想做什么就做什么。他的提案也需要元老院元老们多数同意才能通过。联盟的高级公职人员的任命也要经过元老院的推选,虽然他拥有否定权。发动战争和实现和平的重要大事也是由元老院集体决定。不像僭主可以轻易决定公民的生与死,他的行为仍然受联盟法律的约束。但是,相比斯巴达的国王、民主城邦的将军们,他拥有更大的权力是毋庸置疑的……” Kanos earnestly is listening attentively, looking pensive: No wonder I heard that this archon does not want the guard to protect in the Thurii city frequently, frequently a person comes and goes out the block of Thurii city, does not live like Dionysius in the palace completely, has over a thousand people of mercenary guards to protect itself. According to this logic, he seem like one...... un...... the king of democracy.” 卡尼奥斯认真倾听着,若有所思:“难怪我听说这位执政官图里伊城里经常不要卫队保护,常常一个人出入图里伊城的街区,完全不像狄奥尼修斯居住在宫殿里,拥有上千人的雇佣兵卫队保护自己。这样说来,他倒像是一个……嗯……民主的国王。” Democratic king?!” Siprus listened, excited pounds on the table: This word is very suitable, explained Davos exactly in the position of Theonia alliance! Because officially Theonia this unique archon system accomplished the rapid rise of Theonia.” “民主的国王?!”西普洛斯听了,兴奋的一拍桌子:“这个词很适合,恰好说明了戴弗斯戴奥尼亚联盟的地位!正式因为戴奥尼亚这个独特的执政官制度才造就了戴奥利亚的迅速崛起。” You were said that the great strength of Theonia was Davos one person creates?” Kanos surprised asking. “你是说戴奥尼亚的强大是戴弗斯一人造成的?”卡尼奥斯惊讶的问道。 „...... Davos naturally is talented archon , however political system of Theonia also very not general-” Siprus found a hitting it off well with one another person rarely, the question of Kanos is facilitating him to continue to elaborate own these days ponder obtained, however ate him of too much sauce to feel that throat somewhat dry, he swallowed a saliva, said: Kanos, do you drink the beer? The beer flavor in this shop is very tasty, heard that is Davos directs the slave to undergo many experiments specially, brews. This person not only military and political ability are very strong, does business also has its originality, no wonder is called god family!” “呃……戴弗斯当然是能力非常强的执政官,但是戴奥尼亚的政治体制也很不一般-”西普洛斯难得找到一个投缘的人,卡尼奥斯的问话正方便他继续阐述自己这段时间的沉思所得,然而吃了太多酱料的他感到喉咙有些干涩,他咽了口唾沫,说道:“卡尼奥斯,你喝啤酒吗?这家店里的啤酒味道很好喝,听说是戴弗斯专门指挥手下奴隶经过很多次的实验,才酿造出来的。这个人不但军事、政治能力都很强,就连经商也有其独到之处,难怪被称为‘神眷者’!” The beer is only the drink that the city-state floor person has, but listened to Siprus this saying, Kanos somewhat was also excited. 啤酒只是城邦底层人喝的饮料,但听西普洛斯这一说,卡尼奥斯也有些心动。 Comes two big can of beer!” Siprus shouts loudly. “来两大罐啤酒!”西普洛斯大声喊道。 A thin neck long bottle earthenware jar places in front of Kanos, Kanos carries it, light fragrant and sweet greets the nostrils. He was busy at drinking one, the cool golden liquid arrived in the stomach along slippery below, whole body scattered dry and hot most probably. He could not bear and drank a big mouth. 一个细颈长瓶瓦罐放在卡尼奥斯面前,卡尼奥斯拎起它,一股淡淡的甜香扑鼻而来。他忙喝了一口,凉爽的金黄色液体顺滑的下到肚里,将全身的燥热驱散了大半。他忍不住又喝了一大口。 Flavor is good!” Siprus sees that self-satisfied saying. “味道不错吧!”西普洛斯见状,得意的说道。 Kanos nods, hit the liquor belch, impatient asking: „Does the system of Theonia you said a moment ago what difference have?” 卡尼奥斯点点头,打了个酒嗝,迫不及待的问道:“你刚才所说的戴奥尼亚的制度有什么不同?” Siprus has not kept guessing again, he drank liquor, slowly said: Crotone is our Terina, the one who has the highest authority is ecclesia, it decided city-state all things ; Next reduced the powwow of population, usually attended the meeting at least is not lower than 300-400 people, the discussion solution usual city-state business ; The general who ecclesia elects is only the highest performer who ecclesia and powwow makes the decision, is right?” 西普洛斯没有再卖关子,他喝了一口酒,慢慢说道:“无论是克罗托内还是我们特里纳,掌握最高权力的是公民大会,它决定了城邦的一切事物;其次是缩减了人数的议事会,平时参会的至少也不低于300-400人,商议解决通常的城邦事务;公民大会推选出来的将军只是公民大会、议事会作出决定的最高执行者,对不对?” Right, Elliade is also so, Greece the system of democracy city-state is about such.” “没错,埃利亚也是如此,希腊的民主城邦的体制大致都是这样的吧。” System of Theonia from Amendolara, but Amendolara...... I guessed, after it is separated from Sybaris, just like Heraclea and Metapontum, was affected by Taranto, because Taranto is the Sparta child help/gang, it changes double king for double archon , elder powwow for council, but archon is selected by ecclesia, but after Davos leads the mercenary to join Amendolara, not only changes double archon is life-long only archon , simultaneously ecclesia had not held...... Siprus tone deep saying probably. 戴奥尼亚的体制来自阿门多拉腊,而阿门多拉腊……我猜测,它脱离绪巴里斯之后,同赫拉克利亚梅塔蓬图姆一样,受到塔兰图姆的影响,由于塔兰图姆斯巴达的子帮,它变‘双王’为‘双执政官’,长老议事会为元老院,只不过执政官公民大会选出,可是戴弗斯带领雇佣兵加入阿门多拉腊后,不但变双执政官为终生唯一执政官,同时公民大会好像就一直没有举行过……”西普洛斯语气深沉的说道。 „Did Theonia cancel ecclesia?!” Kanos nearly calls out in alarm makes noise, when without talked before Siprus, based on his past Understanding Davos was the overstepping authority lord, then Theonia did not have ecclesia, Kanos will not be surprised. But Siprus had told him, Davos not overstepping authority lord, is restricted by council, he treats the understanding of Theonia, turned- this also calculates a quite normal city-state alliance, will therefore hear the Siprus words to respond somewhat excessively. 戴奥尼亚取消了公民大会?!”卡尼奥斯险些惊呼出声,在没与西普洛斯谈话之前,基于他过去的认识-戴弗斯是个僭主,那么戴奥尼亚没有公民大会,卡尼奥斯并不会感到吃惊。可是西普洛斯已经告诉了他,“戴弗斯并非僭主,同样受到元老院制约”,他对待戴奥尼亚的认识,就变成了-这还算一个比较正常的城邦联盟,所以听到西普洛斯的话才会反应有些过度。 Theonia ecclesia does not have the definite orders to cancel, but has not truly held......” Siprus to say slowly: I believe, perhaps is the situation of Theonia alliance is special, therefore does not hold. After all, the Theonia citizen disperses in several cities, the origin is also complex, has Greeks, considerable amount of other families people, have the Thurii person, the Amendolara person and Krimisa person......, holds ecclesia to consume the time, moreover easy to quarrel because of the benefit continuous, was unable to decide anything......” 戴奥尼亚公民大会没有明文取消,但确实没举行过……”西普洛斯缓缓说道:“我认为,也许是戴奥尼亚联盟的情况特殊,所以才不举行。毕竟,戴奥尼亚的公民分散在几个城市里,来源又复杂,有希腊人,还有相当数量的外族人,有图里伊人,还有阿门多拉腊人、克里米萨人……,举行公民大会既耗时间,而且容易因为利益而争吵不休,无法决定任何事情……” Kanos thinks carefully, has to acknowledge: Perhaps, this possibly is an important reason. Like Elliade, even our citizens are not many, moreover is the generation lives in the city, every holds ecclesia one time, many important topics are unable to achieve consistently, let alone like Theonia, the citizen originates the complex emerging alliance.” 卡尼奥斯仔细想了想,也不得不承认:“或许吧,这可能是一个重要原因。就象埃利亚,即使我们的公民并不多,而且都是世代居住在城里,每一次举行公民大会,不少重要议题都无法达成一致,更别说像戴奥尼亚这样,公民来源复杂的新兴联盟。” Siprus is patting the bottle body of beer can with the hand, hesitant some little time, raised head to drink liquor, said: Actually, ecclesia processing business...... any subject, citizens very easy own fondness and benefit -based, rather than the city-state benefit expresses the opinion, exercises the veto, finally invariably causes an issue unable to solve for a long time, particularly in critical! If ecclesia is unable to unify the opinion rapidly, will make city-state fall into the huge danger , because of this, Terina faces the attack of Bruttians for a long time, therefore our one with Crotone, Scylletium and other south intent city-state different systems, that is once meets the enemy to invade, Terina will elect a plenary powers general immediately, has the highest right, during decides war all city-state business! Thus avoided the endless discussion and dispute!” 西普洛斯用手轻拍着啤酒罐的瓶身,犹豫了好一会儿,仰头喝了一口酒,才又说道:“其实,公民大会处理事务……任何一个议题,公民们很容易基于自己的喜好和利益,而不是城邦的利益来发表意见,行使否决权,结果往往导致一个问题很长时间都无法解决,尤其是在危急的时候!公民大会如果无法迅速统一意见,会让城邦陷入巨大的危险之中,正是因为这样,特里纳长期面临布鲁提人的侵袭,所以我们有一个与克罗托内西里庭等南意城邦不同的制度,那就是一旦遇上敌人入侵,特里纳就会立即推选一名全权将军,拥有最高权利,来决定战争期间的所有城邦事务!从而避免了无休止的讨论和纷争!” Kanos looks the happy expression: Elliade, when the war is most difficult also to elect the dictatorship officer, has the city-state highest authority, is very similar the plenary powers general who you tell.” 卡尼奥斯面露喜色:“埃利亚在战争最困难的时候也会推选出独裁官,拥有城邦最高权力,跟你所说的全权将军很相似。” The common understanding makes Siprus no longer hesitant, his straightforward saying: You look, Terina or Elliade, realized ecclesia truly has some shortcomings, but made some small changes, but Theonia abandons ecclesia completely, uses the archon Davos ability and less than hundred people of council senior statesmen rich administration experiences, can from helping the city-state alliance develops the benefit that fast, makes the decision through the bill, Theonia not possibly formulated other south intent city-state ecclesia through the law, including two to be important! Theonia can rise as the alliance that newly established quickly, these two bills played very vital role!” 共同的认识让西普洛斯不再犹豫,他直截了当的说道:“你看,无论是特里纳还是埃利亚,都意识到了公民大会确实存在一些缺点,但只是做了一些小的改变,可是戴奥尼亚则完全将公民大会抛开,利用执政官戴弗斯的能力和不到百人的元老院元老们丰富的行政经验,能够从有利于城邦联盟发展的利益出发,快速的通过议案、作出决定,戴奥尼亚制定了一些其他南意城邦公民大会都不可能通过的法律,其中有两条非常重要!戴奥尼亚作为一个刚成立的联盟能够这么快崛起,这两条法案发挥了很重要的作用!”
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