MHAG :: Volume #12

#1167: Sitting on the fence Thebes


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What ponders? Theonian?” Pelopidas gets to the bottom. “思考什么?戴奥尼亚人吗?”佩罗皮达斯刨根问底。 Said accurately should be the Theonia army.” Dense grand Da honest saying: This I go to beautiful Senia time, stayed for several days there, visited the Theonia camp, sentry post and temporary harbor fortunately, watched their training, the administrative shipping and treatment soldier...... to make me profit much, to fear to forget, after coming back, I made the best use of the time to conduct the record and reorganization to it......” “准确的说应该是戴奥尼亚军队。”伊帕密隆达坦诚的说道:“这一次我去美塞尼亚,在那里待了好几天,有幸参观了戴奥尼亚的营地、哨卡、临时港口,观看了他们的训练、后勤运输、医治士兵……让我受益不少,为了怕遗忘,回来之后我抓紧时间对其进行记录和整理……” After Pelopidas listened, immediately understands his intention: You felt these beneficial things that Dio Linia army implements can utilize in our army?” 佩罗皮达斯听了之后,立刻明白了他的用意:“你是觉得戴奥利尼亚军队所实行的这些有益的东西可以运用到我们的军队中?” Dense grand Da jogging head: Theonia is a powerful kingdom, but our entire Piaoxia has not actually unified continually, we do not have that abundant national strength, the lots are unable to implement, but we can use for reference, what is more important is can define the direction that our armies are going to develop in the future......” 伊帕密隆达轻摇头:“戴奥尼亚是一个强大的王国,而我们却连整个皮奥夏都没有统一,我们没有那么雄厚的国力,很多东西无法实施,但是我们可以借鉴,更重要的是可以明确我们的军队未来将要发展的方向……” „After you reorganized, must first show me.” Saying that Pelopidas is interested. “等你整理好之后,一定要先给我看看。”佩罗皮达斯感兴趣的说道。 This is the affirmation! Because I will have the new military reform proposal to submit the parliament when the time comes, needs your support.” “这是肯定的!因为到时候我会有新的军队改革提案呈交议会,需要得到你的支持。” In this regard, I am have supported your.” Pelopidas complies without hesitation, then he also said: It seems like, you had recognized the great strength of Theonia army, they can defeat Sparta.” “在这方面,我一直是支持你的。”佩罗皮达斯毫不犹豫地答应下来,接着他又说道:“看来,你已经认定了戴奥尼亚军队的强大,他们能够战胜斯巴达。” Yes, I think even Sparta has not experienced Leuktra's battle, they possibly are not the Theonian opponents!” Dense grand Da assured saying. “是的,我认为即使斯巴达没有经历留克特拉的会战,他们也绝不可能是戴奥尼亚人的对手!”伊帕密隆达笃定的说道。 Even has the support of Persia?” “即使有波斯的支持?” Persia from was too far, moreover they are impossible unlimited support Sparta.” 波斯距离太远了,而且他们也不可能无限度的支持斯巴达。” Then after Theonian defeats Sparta ?” Pelopidas thread of conversation one revolution: „After I remember you come back, when the parliament told you go abroad on a diplomatic mission the beautiful Senia's process, has proposed one, Commander Theonia hopes that Greece can stop the war, regaining peace...... you to think he said what meaning this saying to be?” “那么戴奥尼亚人战胜斯巴达之后呢?”佩洛皮达斯将话锋一转:“我记得你回来之后在议会上讲述你出使美塞尼亚的经过时,提过一句,‘戴奥尼亚指挥官希望希腊本土能够停止战争、恢复和平’……你认为他说这话是什么意思?” These words you do not feel very familiar! Persians had just said a short time ago.” Dense grand Da meaningful saying. “这句话你不觉得很熟悉吗!波斯人前不久刚说过。”伊帕密隆达意味深长的说道。 Pelopidas has not been startled, he stands up, is thinking, while paces: You and I think is the same, perhaps Theonian wants to become second Persia, controls the situation in entire Greece...... by the Theonia present strength, and it and Persia hostile relationship , they want to control Greece in oneself hand, is completely understandable......., although compared with Persia, Theonia is nearer from here, however their territories here, you do not think after all Theonia can...... choose Sparta to come for it to control here situation like Persia?” 佩罗皮达斯没有吃惊,他站起身,一边思索着,一边踱步:“你和我想的一样,戴奥尼亚人恐怕是想要成为第二个波斯,掌控整个希腊的局势……以戴奥尼亚现在的实力,以及它和波斯之间的敌对关系,他们想要将希腊控制在自己手中,是完全可以理解的。只是……虽然和波斯相比,戴奥尼亚距离这里更近,但是他们的领地毕竟不在这里,你认为戴奥尼亚会不会像波斯一样……挑选一个斯巴达来替它控制这里的局势?” Dense grand Da hesitates was saying: „It looks like from the present situation, Theonian is like Persia, wants first to control Greece, as the springboard, then resists with the opposite party. However the situation in Greece is very complex, here everywhere is the hay, ejects a sparks/Mars incautiously, likely causes fire, the means that therefore you said a moment ago should be the Theonian best choice, but we must strive for to become Sparta in Theonia hand as far as possible, this will be of great advantage to the Thebes future development!” 伊帕密隆达沉吟着说道:“从现在的局势看来,戴奥尼亚人波斯一样,都想先掌控住希腊,作为跳板,进而与对方对抗。但是希腊的情况很复杂,这里到处都是干草,一不小心碰出一点火星,就可能引起一场大火,所以你刚才所说的办法应该是戴奥尼亚人最好的选择,而我们要尽量争取成为戴奥尼亚手中的斯巴达,这对底比斯将来的发展大有好处!” I also believe that moreover Theonia, if really has such idea, our Thebes without doubt is they in Greek best operation target!” Although Pelopidas said that but the mood does not seem stimulated, instead frowns: Was only the present situation had some changes, before your family, I met with the priests in Delphi.” “我也是这么认为,而且戴奥尼亚如果真有这样的想法,我们底比斯无疑是他们在希腊最好的合作对象!”佩罗皮达斯虽然这么说,但情绪并不显得亢奋,反而皱起了眉头:“只是现在情况出现了一些变化,在来你家之前,我同德尔斐的祭司见了一面。” „Does Delphi send the priest to come Thebes to do?” Dense grand Da immediately vigilance. “德尔斐派祭司来底比斯干什么?”伊帕密隆达立刻警觉起来。 Pelopidas dignified saying: That priest told me, they heard Theonia military invasion Peloponnese after the news, felt the matter to be out of the ordinary, therefore requested oracle to Apollo, finally Pythia actually saw the temple in Delphi in the ghost that in the fire burnt, they think that this was the caution that Apollo gave, if did not stop to harbor heresy belief the invasion of Theonian, Greece will destroy, therefore they sent out the priest to each city-state of Holy Alliance, hopes that city-state of Greece can join up, repelled Persia like the past years, expelled Greece Theonia this alien race......” 佩罗皮达斯神情凝重的说道:“那名祭司告诉我,他们听到‘戴奥尼亚军队入侵伯罗奔尼撒’的消息之后,感觉事情非比寻常,于是就向阿波罗请求了神谕,结果皮提亚却看到了德尔斐的神庙在大火中燃烧的幻像,他们认为这是阿波罗给予的警示,如果不制止怀有异端信仰的戴奥尼亚人的入侵,希腊本土将会毁灭,所以他们向神圣同盟的各个城邦派出了祭司,希望希腊的城邦能够联合起来,就像当年击退波斯一样,将戴奥尼亚这个异族赶出希腊……” Before speech at a moderate pace and well-mannered dense grand Dabian the complexion, he urgently asked: How you did reply Delphi the priest?” 之前说话不紧不慢、举止文雅的伊帕密隆达变了脸色,他急问道:“你是怎么回答德尔斐祭司的?” I will certainly not approve the view of Delphi priest, if the god really can give the caution, why in the past did not bless our Thebes, instead made the Sparta person seize our health/guard city with ease.” Pelopidas said angrily, sighed later: „ But, Delphi after all in people have a great influence, therefore I do not have to oppose visibly, but shirked saying that our Thebes now and Athens relates to get into a deadlock, moreover must guard against Thessalian to go south, really without the ample force resisted Theonian, we just signed the union agreement with them let alone, now Theonian fulfills the treaty of alliance, helping us resist mortal enemy Sparta, how our Thebes person can not defend Cigna at this time, betrayed the Theonia person!’ “我当然不会认同德尔斐祭司的这种说法,如果神祗真能给出警示,当年为什么不庇佑我们底比斯,反而让斯巴达人轻松占领了我们的卫城。”佩罗皮达斯愤然说了一句,随后又叹了口气:“不过,德尔斐毕竟在民众中的影响很大,所以我没有明着反对,而是推脱说,‘我们底比斯现在与雅典关系闹僵,而且还要防备塞萨利人南下,实在没有余力去对抗戴奥尼亚人,更何况我们刚刚与他们签署了同盟协议,现在戴奥尼亚人履行盟约,帮助我们对抗死敌斯巴达,我们底比斯人怎么能够在这时候不守信诺,背叛戴奥利亚人呢!’ However, that damn Delphi priest actually accused, Thebes should not form an alliance with Theonia, this gave Theonia to interfere with the reason of Greek war, they have to covet the heart of Greece.’ He requests us to relieve the treaty of alliance with Theonia as soon as possible, and also told me, should not be worried again the security problem of territory, Delphi has conducted the discussion with the priests in Olympia, the unanimous approval separately sent out the envoy to each city-state, these also included Thessaly Jason and Athens, convinced them regardless the enmity, collaborates together, resists external invader Theonia...... ” 但是,那个该死的德尔斐祭司却指责说,‘底比斯本就不该与戴奥尼亚结盟,这给了戴奥尼亚干涉希腊战事的理由,他们早就有觊觎希腊之心。’他要求我们尽快与戴奥尼亚解除盟约,并且还告诉我,不要再担心领地的安全问题,德尔斐已经同奥林匹亚的祭司们进行过商议,一致同意分别向各个城邦派出使者,这其中还包括塞萨利的伊阿宋和雅典,说服他们抛开仇怨,共同联起手来,对抗外来侵略者戴奥尼亚……” This is must form entire Greek Allied armies to resist Theonia!” Dense grand Da held breath cold air, he has not truly thought that the Theonia army enters Peloponnese, will let response such big of Delphi, Olympia, although said that these two places almost do not have a military force, but they are the sacred place of entire Greece, to people have a great influence, if they iron core opposes with Theonia, various city-state governments under forcing of people, perhaps also really can realize...... “这是要组建全希腊联军对抗戴奥尼亚呀!”伊帕密隆达倒吸了一口凉气,他确实没有想到戴奥尼亚军队进入伯罗奔尼撒,会让德尔斐、奥林匹亚的反应如此之大,虽然说这两个地方几乎没有一点武力,但它们是全希腊的圣地,对民众的影响非常大,如果它们铁了心的与戴奥尼亚作对,各城邦政府在民众的逼迫下,说不定还真能够实现…… He calms down, said: I thought that...... Athens might agree with the Delphi priest's suggestion, but will Jason agree? Initially Thessaly has with the strength that Sparta resisted, but this person has actually hidden own ambition, hid like a sly wolf in the northern thick patch of grass, beat the Sparta person until us in Leuktra, started to take action, can this he time old trick heavy?” 他定了定神,说道:“我觉得……雅典很可能会同意德尔斐祭司的建议,但是伊阿宋会同意吗?当初塞萨利已经拥有了与斯巴达对抗的实力,但这个人却一直隐藏自己的野心,象一匹狡猾的狼躲在北方的草丛中,直到我们在留克特拉击败了斯巴达人,才开始采取行动,这一次他会不会又故伎重施?” Jason is truly astute, the Delphi priests may not persuade him.” Pelopidas expressed the support, his look dignified saying: I exactly had not answered to the Delphi priests, but he will set the request to the powwow at to all congressmen tomorrow.” “伊阿宋确实非常精明,德尔斐祭司不一定能说动他。”佩洛皮达斯表示赞同,他神色凝重的说道:“我没有给德尔斐祭司确切的答复,但明天他会到议事会上向全体议员提出要求。” Therefore you first come here to come, then can also go to other congressman homes to seek the support?” Dense grand Da understands the true purpose in coming of good friend, he asked immediately: Then regarding the Delphi priest's request, what your opinion is?” “所以你先到我这里来,接下来还要去其他议员家里寻求支持?”伊帕密隆达明白了好友的真正来意,他随即问道:“那么对于德尔斐祭司的要求,你的意见是什么?” My opinion...... had not said a moment ago, if Theonia wants to become second Persia, then Thebes must become second Sparta. I have gone to Persia , went to Theonia, the ordinary cities in Kingdom of Theonia also city-state that are more than Greece must prosper, their central city Thurii, I felt that not to mention is as good as Persia Babylon, even is more dynamic than Babylon! “我的意见……刚才不是说过了吗,如果戴奥尼亚想要成为第二个波斯,那么底比斯就要成为第二个斯巴达。我去过波斯,也去过戴奥尼亚,戴奥尼亚王国里的普通城镇也比希腊很多的城邦要繁荣,更别提他们的中心城市图里伊,我感觉并不亚于波斯巴比伦,甚至比巴比伦更富有活力! Let alone you had told me a moment ago, the Theonia army is also very strong! Therefore I believe, present Greece gathered most city-state strengths, is hard with the powerful Theonia resistance. Thebes should stand in side of victor, can make our these years efforts not waste! ” 更何况你刚才跟我说过,戴奥尼亚的军队同样很强大!所以我认为,如今的希腊既是集合了大多数城邦的力量,也难以与实力雄厚的戴奥尼亚对抗。底比斯应该站在胜利者的一边,才能让我们这几年的努力没有白费!” I am support your!” Dense grand Da first indicated that oneself attitude, he also reminded simultaneously prudently: But you are very difficult to obtain fully supports of congressmen, is more difficult to convince the Thebes people. On second thought that even if you really made the powwow agree your proposition, was very still difficult to make Piaoxia other allied countries support our decisions completely, Piaoxia Alliance when the time comes we formed laboriously not only will dismiss, but also in Greece, Thebes will be isolated, even encountered besieging of other city-state again!” “我是支持你的!”伊帕密隆达首先表明自己的态度,同时他又慎重的提醒道:“但是你很难得到议员们的全力支持,更难说服底比斯的民众。退一步讲,就算你真的让议事会同意了你的提议,恐怕也很难让皮奥夏的其他盟邦全部支持我们的决定,到时候我们辛苦建立的皮奥夏联盟不但会解散,而且在中希腊,底比斯会被孤立,甚至再次遭到其他城邦的围攻!” These issues that you said I also considered, rejection Delphi priest's request that I will certainly not be clear about, public support Theonia.” Pelopidas reveals one to smile craftily: „ But I can delay the time! Athens, Corinth and Argos, like Lees, Kiess person and Locri this person, having Thessalian...... Greek city-state to be numerous, and has various benefit demands respectively, is contradictory layer on layer/heavily, Delphi and Olympia are impossible to convince them in a short time, joins up jointly to cope with Theonian. “你说的这些问题我也考虑到了,我当然不会明确的拒绝德尔斐祭司的要求,公开的支持戴奥尼亚。”佩罗皮达斯露出一丝诡笑:“但我可以拖时间!雅典科林斯阿哥斯、爱利斯、佛基斯人、洛克里斯人、还有塞萨利人……希腊城邦众多,而且各有各的利益需求,相互之间也是矛盾重重,德尔斐、奥林匹亚不可能在短时间内将他们说服,联合起来共同对付戴奥尼亚人 Even if convinced them, various city-state must conduct the military mobilization, finally collects in still to need a lot of time the army together, I looked...... these at least take 2-3 months, but perhaps within such long time, the war of Theonia to Sparta had finished, Theonian will take the new action, the situation will become brighter, helping us make the new decision. ” 而且就算说服了他们,各城邦要进行军事动员,最后将军队汇集在一起也需要不少的时间,我看啦……这些至少需要2-3个月的时间,而在这么长的时间之内,说不定戴奥尼亚斯巴达的战事已经结束,戴奥尼亚人会采取新的行动,局势将变得更加明朗,有利于我们做出新的决定。” Dense grand Da hesitates was saying: I look,...... Thessalian and Athens have not clearly indicated the attitude on by . Moreover the hostility is still obvious to Thebes, Piaoxia safety is still threaten is the reason, adopts first did not indicate that the attitude, delays the time temporarily the resolution, believes that the Thebes congressmen and people can accept, serves the interests of other Piaoxia allied countries.” 伊帕密隆达沉吟着说道:“我看可以,就以……塞萨利人雅典尚未明确表明态度,而且对底比斯依然敌意明显,皮奥夏的安全还在受到威胁为由,采取先不表明态度、暂时拖延时间的决议,相信底比斯的议员和民众能够接受,也符合其他皮奥夏盟邦的利益。”
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