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#1338: The opinion dispute public rules

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Faces the suggestion of Rhodey, the first response of Banner is rejecting. He is impossible to allow that oneself team does this, because this completely is his original intention violates. What he wants is hand/subordinate brings completely own these, but does not make them risk one's life. In this regard, Rhodey has the different opinions with him obviously. 面对着罗迪的建议,班纳的第一个反应就是拒绝。他根本不可能容许自己的队伍这样做,因为这完全是和他的初衷相违背的。他要的是完完整整地把自己的这些手下们带回去,而不是让他们去出生入死。只是,在这一点上,罗迪显然和他有着不同的意见。 „I know certainly these that I said mean anything, but you should also know, we have the duty to come, is not travels. Some matters we must do, even if were puts in the sacrifice also to refuse to balk. Your such Gu Shougu tail, will only make our anything unable to make. Banner, you is a commander, you should shoulder your responsibility.” “我当然知道我说的这些会意味着什么,但是你也应该知道,我们是带着任务来的,不是来旅游的。有些事情我们必须要去做,哪怕就是付出牺牲也在所不惜。你这样顾首顾尾,只会让我们什么也做不成。班纳,你是指挥官,你应该负起自己的责任。” „My responsibility is completely my possible preserves here everyone. They are the living lives, is not useless digit. They should live, I must make them live.” “我的责任就是尽我可能的保全这里的每一个人。他们都是活生生的生命,不是一个个没有用的数字。他们应该活着,我也必须让他们活着。” Banner and Rhodey have the huge conflict in the basic principle thought that but this conflict makes Banner somewhat unable to control own has bellowed. He really does not think clearly, the fellow so cold blood of these army births, why they so will be why indifferent other people the death. If merely were to enemy this, including they so was also callous to the person on one's own side. This is really makes him feel that is unable to accept. 班纳和罗迪在基本的原则思想上有着巨大的冲突,而这种冲突就使得班纳有些控制不住自己的大吼了起来。他实在是想不明白,为什么这些军队出生的家伙会这么冷血,为什么他们会这么漠视他人的死亡。如果仅仅是对敌人这样也就算了,连对自己人他们也这么冷酷。这实在是让他感到无法接受。 He feels unable to accept, Rhodey also similarly felt that is unable to accept. Because regarding him, the Banner disposition was really too awful, he was really not a qualified commander candidate. 他感到无法接受,罗迪也同样地感到无法接受。因为对于他来说,班纳的性格实在是太糟糕了,他实在不是一个合格的指挥官人选。 As a commander, if sacrificed is also unacceptable, then basic is impossible to make the most correct choice at crucial moment. His hesitation and paces back and forth will only make the opportunity from his sneak off at present in vain, but along with passing of time, they can only be brought by this fellow step by step to the death and destruction. 作为一个指挥官,如果连牺牲也不能接受的话,那么根本就不可能在关键的时候做出最正确的选择来。他的犹豫和徘徊只会让机会从他的眼前白白地溜走,而随着时间的流逝,他们就只能一步步地被这个家伙带向死亡和毁灭。 The passing many examples showed this truth, so-called merciful people cannot command troops is this. 过往的很多例子都说明了这个道理,所谓的慈不掌兵就是这样。 Before then, Rhodey held very high hope to Banner. Because he thought, after experiencing these many, Banner should learn some basic truth. Other did not say, most at least should also not be that naive, then idealism. However now looks like, this is only the idea that one-sided wish. Who he is, eventually any person. Was counting on he will change, radically is an impractical delusion. 在这之前,罗迪本来还是对班纳抱有很大的希望的。因为他觉得,在经历了这么多之后,班纳应该已经学会了一些基本的道理。别的不说,最起码也应该不会是那么天真,那么理想主义了。但是现在看来,这只是自己一厢情愿的想法而已。他是什么人,终究还是什么人。指望着他会改变,根本就是一种不切实际的妄想而已。 At this time, if possible, Rhodey wants to be built on stilts his authority, was grasped the motion of this special squad by oneself. However he knows, this is the impossible matter. 这个时候,如果可能的话,罗迪真的想架空他的权力,由自己来掌握这个特别小队的行动。但是他知道,这是不可能的事情。 Banner impossible, whatever are built on stilts him, once he starts to revolt, oneself simply do not have the ability and he resists. Moreover, other these avengers may not allow itself such to do. Even if has such several people willing to support itself, he will not have the too big superiority. But the final result likely is the two sides oppositions and breaking off. 班纳不可能任由自己去架空他,而一旦他开始反抗,自己根本没有能力和他对抗。而且,其他的那些复仇者们也不一定会允许自己这么做。就算是有那么几个人愿意支持自己,他也不会有太大的优势。而最后的结果很可能就是两边的对立和决裂。 Rhodey is not a fool, he impossible, because a little authority lets such result occurrence, that will only make them move toward the destruction. Therefore he can only occupy obediently and honestly under Banner, then wants completely all means to convince him. 罗迪不是傻子,他不可能因为这么一点权力就让这样的结果发生,那只会让他们所有人都跟着走向毁灭。所以他只能老老实实地屈居在班纳之下,然后想尽一切办法地去说服他。 This not easy, person who because Banner at all is not that easy vacillated. As a super hero, to their situations, the thought of everyone it can be said that tenacious, unshakeable. Therefore to be honest, a Rhodey point grasps does not have, but he has to make the final effort for this reason. 这并不容易,因为班纳根本不是那么容易被动摇的人。作为一个超级英雄,到了他们的这个地步,每一个人的思想都可以说是坚韧的,不可动摇的。所以老实说,罗迪一点把握也没有,但是他还是不得不为此做出最后的努力。 „Banner, I can understand your mood. However you must know, you now is a commander, what your body is shouldering was completely different you bore the responsibility that in the past. In such a case, you must understand that a matter, that is our duties is more important than anything, even includes our lives.” “班纳,我能理解你的心情。但是你要知道,你现在是指挥官,你的身上肩负着的是完全不同你以往所背负的责任。在这样的情况下,你就一定要明白一件事情,那就是我们的任务比什么都重要,甚至包括我们的生命。” „You have also said that we only have more than 100 people. We completely sacrificed here, only will have such more than 100 tombstones. You thought that such sacrifice was very big? Then you do have to think, if our duties were defeated, the entire ally will fall into regarding the motion in Indian from the beginning to the mire. But to that time, we should pay many lives the prices to be able all these turning around! Tens of thousands th, are several hundred thousand several million, several million?” “你也说过,我们只有100多人。我们就算是全部牺牲在这里,也就只会有那么100多块墓碑而已。你觉得这样的牺牲很大了吗？那么你有没有想过,如果我们的任务失败了,整个同盟国对于印度方面的行动会从一开始就会陷入到泥沼之中。而到了那个时候,我们又该付出多少生命的代价才能把这一切给扭转过来！几万,几十万还是几百万,几千万？” „No one wants to sacrifice, I do not want to make our good young fellows such risk one's life. However, we are the servicemen, we are shouldering the soldier of mission. At this time, we must over. This is the significance of serviceman, this is our responsibility. Therefore Banner, should not be besotted!” “谁都不想牺牲,我也不想让我们的好小伙子们就这么去出生入死。但是,我们是军人,我们是背负着使命的战士。在这个时候,我们必须出头。这就是军人的意义,这就是我们的责任。所以班纳,你不要再执迷不悟了！” A confusion, selects the Banner present condition. In other Rhodey as well as person eyes, Banner was really some was extremely now tenacious, simply could be said as tenacious was fearful. Indeed, a scientist needs to select tenaciously, because only then can make them go into seriously tenaciously in the world of science. However places in this spirit the situation of present, was really somewhat fearful. 一句执迷不悟,点出了班纳现在的状态。在罗迪以及其他的一些人眼里,班纳现在实在是有些太过固执了,简直都可以说是固执的可怕了。诚然,一个科学家需要点固执,因为只有固执才能让他们在科学的世界里深究下去。但是把这种精神放在眼下的这个情况里,就实在是有些可怕了。 At this time, everybody hopes that Banner can change an attitude. Said again badly, he should also be able to understand on own some issues. This point, Banner indeed achieved. He had realized one tenacity in this issue, had realized oneself wishful thinking does not accept for most of them. However, this does not mean that he must compromise, must change. 这个时候,大家都希望班纳能够回心转意。再不济地说,他也应该能想明白自己身上的一些问题。这一点,班纳的确是做到了。他已经意识到自己在这个问题上的固执,意识到了自己的一厢情愿并不为他们中的大多数所接受。但是,这并不意味着他就要妥协,就要改变。 He does not have the easy change that therefore he is somewhat adheres stubbornly to own opinions now said. 他没有那么容易改变,所以现在他还是有些固执己见地说道。 „I know that our duties mean anything, but completed the task and sacrifice is two matters. Did we sacrifice to be able the duty to complete completely? Who dares to hit such guarantee? The life that I only want to preserve my hand/subordinate these soldiers, I only want more to live. Like this has the mistake?” “我知道我们的任务意味着什么,但是完成任务和牺牲是两码事。难道说我们全部牺牲了就能把任务完成掉了吗？谁敢打这样的保证？我只想保全我手下这些士兵们的生命,我只想让更多的人活着而已。这样有错吗？” „Your this wants not wrong, but before you, has thought flinching, has thought escaping, this has the mistake. Our anything has not done, our duty has not even opened, this flinches, simply is a despicable joke. But planned that in me this head, planned makes our duties open up a perspective time, you also kept on proclaiming find all kinds of excuses to refute me. Banner, you thought that you do make having any truth like this?” “你这样想是没有错,但是你之前已经想过了退缩,想过了逃跑,这却是有错的。我们什么都还没有做,我们的任务甚至连个头都没有开,这样就退缩下去,简直就是一个可鄙的笑话。而就在我打算开这个头,打算让我们的任务打开一个局面的时候,你却还口口声声地找着各种各样的理由来反驳我。班纳,你觉得你这样做有任何的道理可言吗？” „I stand in the life angle. Everyone has the right to live, we do not have that qualifications to deprive their rights, making them bring death!” “我是站在生命的角度上。每个人都有权利活着,我们没有那个资格剥夺他们的权利,让他们去送死！” Rhodey interrogated that made Banner refute again, but this naturally has also brought in a bigger objection. 罗迪质问让班纳再一次地反驳了起来,而这也自然地是引来了更大的反对声。 „You do not have the qualifications to eliminate them to maintain oneself honor the right. Opens your ear wheat to ask, asks these young fellows, they are willing to go back with you dingily together, is willing to spell to try to go to complete this task with us together. Banner, we are the servicemen, each of us knows that the sacrifice was the matter of being unavoidable. We fear no sacrifice, what we fear is dies does not have the value, lives is not having the honor. You are not our people, therefore you cannot understand us. We at all not like you think!” “那你也没有资格去剥夺他们维护自己荣誉的权利。打开你的耳麦去问问,问问那些小伙子们,他们是愿意灰溜溜地和你一块回去,还是愿意拼尽全力地去和我们一起完成这个任务。班纳,我们是军人,我们每个人都知道牺牲是在所难免的事情。我们不怕牺牲,我们怕的是死得没有价值,活着没有荣誉。你不是我们这种人,所以你根本就不能理解我们。我们根本不像你想的那样！” The words spoke of here, between two people has almost opposed thoroughly. But in this case, anybody is impossible to meddle again. Therefore most people on the scene also can only smile bitterly, awaits calmly the situation to subside. 话说到这里,两个人之间几乎已经是彻底地对立了起来。而在这种情况下,其他任何人都已经是不可能再插手进来。所以在场的绝大多数人也只能是苦笑着,静待着事态平息下来而已。 How however this matter possibly subsides. If can subside, Banner tenaciously will not insist last such a long time. 但是这种事情怎么可能平息。如果能平息的话,班纳也就不会固执地坚持上那么长时间了。 „Good, that gives them the decision-making power. Has a look at them like you said that is willing to be willing dead for this duty. Has a look regarding them, who is the most correct choice!” “好,那就把决定权交给他们。看看他们是不是像你说的那样,愿意为了这个任务而甘愿去死。看看对于他们来说,谁才是最正确的选择！” Under the present situation, Banner wants light to convince Rhodey this group of people by oneself very much clearly is absolutely impossible. Therefore he simply gave to draw all people, making them come to make the decision for own destiny. 在目前的情况下,班纳很清楚想要光靠自己就能说服罗迪这群人是绝对不可能的。所以他干脆就把所有人都给拉了进来,让他们来为自己的命运做决定。 In his opinion, anybody has the intense seeking livehood desire. Before looking like them, these stragglers who runs into are the same. Are they to not live choosing to turn into the monster? Almost fell into the desperate refugee to live including one crowd thoroughly is making such choice, when these agents are having the opportunity of well going on living obviously, to choose how possibly to bring death? 在他看来,任何人都是有着强烈的求生欲望的。就像是他们之前遇到的那些游荡者一样。他们不就是为了活着而选择变成怪物吗？连一群几乎已经彻底陷入了绝望的难民都会为了活着而做出这样的选择,那么这些特工们在明明有着更好地活下去的机会时,怎么可能会选择去送死呢？ He is believing oneself idea, therefore he affirmed that Rhodey will not accept own request. However what stems from him to anticipate, Rhodey complied, and also very much simply has paid the motion. 他坚信着自己的想法,所以他肯定罗迪是不会答应自己的这个要求的。但是出乎他意料的是,罗迪答应了,并且还很干脆地付出了行动。 Saw only him to open the communication of entire channel, and was saying to all people directly like this. 只见他打开了全频道的通讯,并且直接对着所有人这样说道。 „I am the war machine, Colonel Rhodey. Now I must to a circular such matter, in just, the action that between I and commander then must take present the contradiction, but this also makes us need to solicit everybody's suggestions to decide our next step movements.” “我是战争机器,罗迪上校。现在我要向各位通告这样的一件事情,就在刚刚,我和指挥官之间就接下来要展开的行动出现了矛盾,而这也就使得我们需要征求大家的意见来决定我们下一步的动作。” „Commander believes, our forms very stern, before we should now secure step not, or finished this duty directly. But my decision is, sets out toward a recent medium city, eliminates the Hydra influence in this city directly, opens up the perspective for our motions. Here, what I must to explanation is, the decision of commander almost can guarantee that safety, will be doomed to be defeated besides the duty, we will not have any loss. But my decision, then might thrust the death in everybody the abyss. And, I cannot vouch for completely said, this can make our duties complete. I can only say, this will only make our duties promote forward one step, is only one.” “指挥官认为,我们的形式非常的严峻,我们现在应该安步不前或者直接结束这场任务。而我的决定则是,向着最近的一个中型城市进发,直接清除掉这个城市里的九头蛇势力,为我们的行动打开局面。在这里,我要向各位说明的是,指挥官的决定几乎可以保证各位的生命安全,除了任务会注定失败之外,我们不会有任何的损失。而我的决定,则有可能把各位推入到死亡的深渊中。并且,我完全不能打包票的说,这就能让我们的任务完成。我只能说,这只会让我们的任务向前推动一步,只是一步而已。” „Everybody came from the elite in each country, in this world topest agent and soldier. Therefore I need present to make judgment, supports the commander, supports my decision. This relates to the duty the trend also to have the glory with life, I hope that everybody waits prudently!” “各位都是来自各个国家的精英,这个世界上最顶尖的特工和战士。所以我需要各位现在做出判断,是支持指挥官,还是支持我的决定。这关系到任务的走向和各位的生命还有荣耀,我希望各位慎重以待！” The Rhodey words said very is clear, he has not resorted to any method. This point Banner approves, therefore he also made noise by oneself status has duplicated a just content. At this time, they can do, only then waited for these agents' replies. On this, Banner thought oneself are has victory in the hand. However what stems from him to anticipate, the matter radically is not such that he thinks. 罗迪的话说的非常清楚,他没有耍任何的手段。这一点班纳还是认同的,所以他也出声以自己的身份重复了一遍刚刚的内容。这个时候,他们能做的只有等待那些特工们的回答了。在这上面,班纳觉得自己是胜券在握。然而出乎他意料的是,事情根本就不是他想的那样。 He failed, defeats thoroughly. 120 : several data, making him almost unable to believe oneself ear. Why? Why can this appearance? 他失败了,败得彻彻底底。120比十几的数据,让他几乎不敢相信自己的耳朵。为什么？为什么会这个样子？
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