Four o'clock. 四点钟。 program broadcast that post- two hours, the echo and appraisal on network are getting more and more warm, discussed that the sound and praise sound have continually welled up, the areas of some Beijing accidents, for example Hebei or the three northeastern provinces could not receive btv- Literature and Art Channel, but many people were curious, under the leadership of this heat degree, accessed the net to search the video resources, watched the «Hundred Lecture Room» first issues since the video site. 节目播出后两个小时,网络上的反响和评价越来越热烈,讨论声和赞誉声不断涌了进来,有些京城意外的地区,比如北河省或者东北三省原本都是收不到btv-文艺频道的,但还是很多人都好奇了起来,在这份热度的带领下,上网搜索视频资源了,从视频网站上观看起《百家讲坛》第一期。 program was hot! 节目火了！ Moreover was the genuine fire! 而且是货真价实的火了！ When are not many, suddenly several people came Hu Fei out inquisitively their Segment Group, 30-year-old female comrades(s) and two youth have a look at inside, „please ask that this is «Hundred Lecture Room» Segment Group?” 不多时,忽然有几个人探头探脑地来了胡飞他们栏目组门外,一个30多岁的女同志和两个青年看看里面,“请问,这是《百家讲坛》栏目组吗？” Xiao Lu left recently, replied: „Yes, whom do you look for?” 小吕离得最近,答道:“是啊,你们找谁？” The woman said: „Is this, we are in building BTV-Sports, is the colleagues, I want to ask recording and broadcasting of our today's «Hundred Lecture Room», scene ticket?” 那女人道:“是这样,我们是楼上btv-体育的,都是同事,我想问一下咱们今天《百家讲坛》的录播,还有现场票吗？” Xiao Lu looks to Hu Fei, „leadership?” 小吕看向胡飞,“领导？” „Has, besides sending, in our hands also has 50.” Hu Fei draws the drawer, has given Xiao Lu the ticket naturally, „did not say that I have almost forgotten, you give casually, he he.” “有,除了发出去的,咱们手里还有50来张。”胡飞一拉抽屉,大大方方地把票给了小吕,“不说我差点都忘了,你们随便给吧,呵呵。” Xiao Lu has given them three tickets. 小吕就给了他们三张票。 The woman said: „Has thanked, when the time comes has the words of sports match, so long as is a sports kind of ticket, here can divide to arrive at some, you ask me to be good.” 那女人道:“谢谢了,到时候有球赛的话,只要是体育一类的票,我们这里都能分到一些,你们找我就行。” Xiao Lu said with a smile: „All right, is the colleagues.” 小吕笑道:“没事儿,都是同事。” Ring, ring, ring, suddenly, Brother Hou telephone sound. 铃铃铃,忽然,侯哥的电话响了。 Brother Hou meets, „feeds, Old Sun, I am just busy, recorded program quickly, in the evening I called you again.” 侯哥一接,“喂,老孙啊,我正忙呢,快录节目了,晚上我再给你打吧。” That side person probably is also TV station, „do not hang, gets several «Hundred Lecture Room» tickets to me, I had several friends to look, thought specially good, knows that I called to me in Beijing TV Station on the spot the ticket, inside also had my goddess, brother's was busy at you being probable to result in helps, my important matter lifelong look at you, a while I went to the building to ask you to take the ticket, such has decided that gave me to keep three few!” 那边的人好像也是电视台的,“你别挂呢,给我弄几张《百家讲坛》的票,我有几个朋友都看了,觉得特别好,知道我在京城电视台就给我打电话死活要现场票,里面还有我的女神呢,老哥的这个忙你必须得帮啊,我的终身大事就看你了,一会儿我去楼上找你拿票,就这么定了,最少给我留三张！” Brother Hou was speechless, has made the telephone call. 侯哥无语,挂了电话。 Outside came the person, „Da Fei in?” 外面又来人了,“大飞在吗？” Da Fei gains ground, „, isn't this Brother Wu of science and technology education stage?” 大飞一抬头,“哟,这不是科教台的吴哥么？” That Brother Wu said with a smile: „Da Fei, my parents want to look at the «Hundred Lecture Room» scenes, heard that your 56 points can start to record? You give me two tickets.” 那吴哥笑道:“大飞,我爸妈想看《百家讲坛》的现场,听说你们56点就要开始录了？你给我两张票呗。” Da Fei is happy: „Ok, uncle aunt must look that definitely does not have the issue.” 大飞痛快道:“行啊,叔叔阿姨要看,肯定没问题。” People one after another come to want ticket, has wants to one's own, has wants to the friend, gives the parents relative to want, in an instant, the ticket in their Segment Group also turned into 30-40 from more than 50, has been not much left, the person who however comes not only has not been short, instead were getting more and more. 一波一波的人都来要票的,有给自己要的,有给朋友要的,还有给父母亲戚要的,转眼间,他们栏目组手里的票从50多张也变成了三四十张,所剩无几了,但是来的人非但没有少,反而越来越多了。 „Brother Hou, comes a ticket!” “侯哥,来张票啊！” „Brother Fei, ticket? On line.” “飞哥,还有票吗？一张就行。” „Younger sister Xiao Lu, you give me one, my friend urgently was shouting must come, if I do not make several to them, which my face toward puts!” “小吕妹妹,你就给我一张呗,我朋友急着喊着要来呢,我要是不给他们弄几张,我面子往哪儿放啊！” Xiao Lu dumbfounded , „may I not have.” 小吕哭笑不得,“可我没有了呀。” „You helped me look, thank.” “你帮我找找,谢谢了。” „That, that line, Teacher Zhang, can your ticket give me two?” Xiao Lu can only seek help Zhang Ye. “那,那行吧,张老师,您的票能给我两张吗？”小吕只能求助张烨。 Just that 50 tickets had apportioned in each colleague hand, Zhang Ye has also attained ten, he did not know any person with stage in any case, conveniently has given Xiao Lu, „was taking.” 刚刚那50张票已经分给了他们每一个同事手里,张烨也拿到了十张,反正他跟台里也不认识什么人,就随手给了小吕,“拿着吧。” This in the afternoon, the Hu Fei Segment Group people have become the sweetie pie, is difficult to get a ticket simply! 这一下午,胡飞栏目组的人都成了香饽饽,简直是一票难求！ Afterward, the TV station advertisement department had several also to look the person who Zhang Ye has dealt with, the Zhang Ye ticket was also not much left, emptied basically. 后来,电视台广告部门有几个跟张烨打过交道的人也找来了,张烨的票也所剩无几,基本告空了。 Xiao Lu wipes away sweat saying: „Originally are our columns so marketable?” 小吕擦汗道:“原来咱们的栏目这么抢手啊？” Brother Hou is also much more tired, „who comes me not to give again, did not have the ticket.” 侯哥也累得够呛,“谁再来我也不给了,也没票了。” Younger Brother Hou actually very much enjoys this feeling, said: „Later our several exit, that must throw out the chest to gain ground, I looked that who also dares to say our program are not good!” 侯弟却很享受这种感觉,道:“以后咱们几个出去,那都得挺胸抬头了啊,我看谁还敢说咱们的节目不行！” Zhang Ye smiles, suddenly about looks, „? Chenchen?” 张烨笑笑,突然左右一找,“诶？辰辰呢？” How many Xiao Lu also helped to look, „has not seen, did she do? Won't lose?” 小吕也帮着找了几眼,“没看见啊,她干嘛去了？不会丢了吧？” Brother Hou talked about with interest: „Can that kid lose? Who threw her not to lose! She may the thief! I have not seen such smart child!” 侯哥乐道:“那个小家伙能丢了？谁丢了她都丢不了！她可贼着呢！我就没见过这么机灵的孩子！” Was saying, Chenchen took one hear to ice Coke/fun to come back, walked while rumble drinks, but also made a belch deliciously. 正说着,辰辰拿着一听冰镇可乐回来了,一边走一边咕噜咕噜地喝,还美滋滋地打了个嗝。 Zhang Ye stares her, „did you do? It is not does not make you run around like crazy!” 张烨瞪瞪她,“你干嘛去了？不是不让你瞎跑么！” Chenchen actually puts out a hand, Boss non- guest angrily said: „Zhang Ye, gives me to open the scene ticket.” 辰辰却一伸手,老大不客气道:“张烨,给我张现场票。” Zhang Ye stares, „a while I lead you to go, you do not use the ticket, wants it to do?” 张烨一愣,“一会儿我带你进去,你不用票,要它干嘛？” Chenchen has referred to out, „that aunt has bought one hear of Coke/fun for me, I complied to give her a ticket.” 辰辰指了指门外,“那个阿姨给我买了一听可乐,我答应给她一张票了。” Zhang Ye pats the forehead, was really is given to be defeated by her, the person the little rascal was big, but also knows that accepted has slightly bribed, has to give last in Chenchen his hand. 张烨一拍额头,真是被她给打败了,人小鬼大啊,还知道接受小贿赂了,只好给了辰辰他手里的最后一张。 Chenchen takes to that aunt. 辰辰拿给那个阿姨。 The aunt said: „Thanked the small treasure, Teacher Zhang, thanked.” Walked. 那阿姨道:“谢谢小宝贝了,张老师,谢了。”才走了。 Brother Hou is very excited, „has a look, you have a look, started including the children, this explained that our program many people liked looking, moreover was loves insanely!” 侯哥很激动,“看看,你们看看啊,连小孩子都发动上了,这说明咱们节目得多少人都爱看啊,而且是爱疯了！” Hu Fei said with a smile: „Was good, this entered the stadium ahead of time.” 胡飞笑道:“行了,该提前入场了。” Brother Hou said inspired: „Right, today's program also well records, generally first issue of Viewership Ratings wants high many, after is new program, has the curiosity, many audiences hug are coming freshly, but the second issue really tested the quality, good program, if the able to withstand testing, Viewership Ratings estimated that must fall much, this issue must result in the first issue that well did to be better than!” 侯哥振奋道:“对,今天的节目也得好好录,一般第一期的收视率都要高不少,毕竟是新节目,有新鲜感,很多观众都是抱着新鲜来的,但第二期就真的考验质量了啊,要不是好节目,要是经不住考验,收视率估计还得掉不少呢,这期必须得做的比第一期更好才行啊！” Da Fei took a bottle of mineral water to Zhang Ye, „Teacher Zhang, looked your.” 大飞给张烨拿了瓶矿泉水,“张老师,看你的了。” „Gives me.” Zhang Ye drank water, gets the hand of Chenchen to directly soar records and broadcasts. “交给我吧。”张烨喝了口水,也领着辰辰的手直奔录播间。 ...... …… Recorded and broadcast to be about to start. 录播快开始了。 The audiences also gradually enter the location. 观众们也陆续进入场地。 Zhang Ye is trying Headset on the stage, suddenly the split vision glance, saw several people, is the several leaders of their Literature and Art stage, Wang Shuixin this member also, him unexpectedly also came to the scene to observe and emulate. 张烨正在台上试耳麦,忽然余光一瞥,看到了几个人,是他们文艺台的几个领导,其中王水新这个一把手也在,他居然也来现场观摩了。 Hu Fei moves forward to meet somebody, „Director.” 胡飞迎上去,“总监。” Wang Shuixin leads the person to sit down, said: „Is busy at your Old Hu, we today are the audiences, listens, you do not need to manage us.” 王水新带着人坐下,道:“忙你的老胡,我们今天就是观众,过来听听的,你不用管我们。” Hu Fei is impolite, „good, I was busy first.” 胡飞也不客气,“好,那我先忙了。” Today, TV station colleague the person are many, has almost accounted for one-fifth of seat, some are like this column therefore coming the scene first time hear, but some colleagues, was led the designation to observe and emulate the study, after all the sketchy Viewership Ratings statistics of «Hundred Lecture Room» were too astonishing, the first issue had 7. 8% th, so greatly attains successfully naturally has his truth, certainly must study. 今天,电视台的同事来的人很多,几乎占了座位的1,有些是真的喜欢这个栏目所以来现场第一时间听的,而有些同事,则是被领导指派来观摩学习的,毕竟《百家讲坛》的粗略收视率统计实在太惊人了,第一期就有了7。8%,如此大获成功自然有他的道理,肯定要学习一下。 These many people. 这么多人。 These many pair of bright looks. 这么多双炯炯的眼神。 Inside also has the TV station colleague, leads. 里面还有电视台的同事,还有领导。 Zhang Ye also felt little pressure, but was not big, could not affect his anything, this male servant most took the take action special skill is the psychological quality, never had stage fright! 张烨也感觉到了一点点压力,不过并不大,影响不到他什么,这厮最拿得出手的特长就是心理素质,从不怯场！ time was similar. 时间差不多了。 Zhang Ye went to by the camera to find listened to photograph small Chenchen that the big brother spoke there curiously, drew her to go to the auditorium, hugged to lift her, has put on a chair gently, the injunction said: „You sit, the uncle records program time you cannot move heedlessly to run all over the place, doesn't know?” 张烨去摄像机旁边找到了在那里好奇听摄像大哥说话的小辰辰,拉着她去了观众席,把她一抱举起来,轻轻放到了一张椅子上,嘱咐道:“你坐好,叔叔录节目的时候你不许乱动乱跑,知道不？” Chenchen one, „does not know patiently.” 辰辰不耐烦地一嗯,“知道。” Sometimes this child, really does not make the person be free from worry, may sometimes also specially make people relieved, because small Chenchen is different from the contemporaries, she wanted to be too many maturely, many matters you did not say that she also understood. 这孩子,有时候是真不让人省心,可有时候也特别让人放心,因为小辰辰跟同龄人不一样,她要成熟太多了,很多事你不说她也懂。 Zhang Ye felt relieved to go on stage. 张烨放心上台了。 Hu Fei said: „Was Teacher Zhang, OK?” 胡飞道:“张老师,可以了吗？” Zhang Ye routinely has set upright a 1 character with the finger, the habit that this is he works as anchor forms when Radio Station, is Radio Station records and broadcasts or the live broadcast language. 张烨习惯性地拿手指竖了一个1字,这是他在电台当主播时养成的习惯,是电台录播或直播时的语言。 „Good, everybody prepares, three, two, one, starts!” “好,大家都准备,三,二,一,开始！” Zhang Ye very professional, after is the professionally-trained worker „regular army”, start is a it does not matter expression, the camera opens, his complexion suddenly has also traded a smiling face of smile, „hello, welcome to today's «Hundred Lecture Room», I am Zhang Ye, last time I said a word, the echo is very as if good, especially in ‚chatted the mast scull to unravel’, obtained numerous high praises, has shown Zhou Yu's natural, um, actually the words of Literature author were unreliable.” 张烨很职业,毕竟是科班出身的“正规军”,开始还是一副无所谓的表情,摄像机一开,他脸色也猛然换了一个微笑的笑脸,“大家好,欢迎收看今天的《百家讲坛》,我是张烨,上期我说了一首词,反响似乎很好,尤其里面的一句‘谈笑间樯橹灰飞烟灭’,得到了众多好评,展现了周瑜的潇洒,嗯,其实文学作者的话很多都是靠不住的。” Several people tittered smile. 有几个人噗嗤地笑了。 Zhang Ye self-ridicules one's own, said: „Chatted the mast scull to unravel, this has really exaggerated, is not natural, was only my some artistic processing, similarly, for example Cao Cao , were quite been many by the Literature processing also a quite complex character, today we say him, mentioned Cao Cao, everybody to him nothing else but was three images, first, Hero, second, the greatvillain, third, the traitor, then, which appraisal was accurate?” 张烨自嘲自己,道:“谈笑间樯橹灰飞烟灭,这实在是夸张了一些,没有那么潇洒的,只是我个人的一些艺术加工,同样的,比如曹操,也是被文学加工比较多也比较复杂的一个人物,今天我们就来说一说他,说起曹操,大家对他无外乎是三种形象,第一,英雄,第二,奸雄,第三,奸贼,那么,哪一个评价是准确的呢？” Also which accurate? 还哪个准确？ Cao Cao definitely is the traitor or the greatvillain! What question does this have? 曹操肯定是奸贼或者奸雄啊！这还有什么疑问吗？ The Zhang Ye words have brought back everybody's curiosity, how wants to listen to Zhang Ye to say. 张烨的话勾起了大家的好奇,都想听一听张烨是怎么说的。 Zhang Ye said: „Folk said Cao Cao jian, many people do not like Cao Cao, in Northern Song Dynasty, Cao Cao was not a likable person, can he not be why likable? Everybody knows that Cao Cao had spoken a few words, rather can't my defeated/carrying world person, world person defeated/carrying I, what meaning? Even if rather the person who does a disservice to all over the world cannot world to be unfair to him, said this words, that this person was too bad, therefore the common people disliked Cao Cao, but we must make clear now, was this fact.” 张烨道:“民间都说曹操奸,很多人都不喜欢曹操,在北宋的时候,曹操就是个不讨人喜欢的人,可为什么他不讨人喜欢呢？大家都知道曹操曾经说过一句话,宁可我负天下人,不可天下人负我,什么意思呢？就是一个宁可对不起普天下的人也不能让天下人对不起他,说出这种话,那这个人就太坏了,所以老百姓都讨厌曹操,可现在我们就要搞清楚,这到底是不是事实。” Some audience tumults. 观众不禁有些骚动。 What? Isn't this also the fact? 什么？这还不是事实吗？ Sweat, yesterday you just gave Zhou Yu to rehabilitate, then has taken Zhuge Liang's Halo, today do you want to give Cao Cao to be ordinary? But Cao Cao's matter already conclusion! Does this have the dispute? This saying is he said that can say this saying, what good person can he be? 汗,昨天你刚给周瑜平反,然后拿下了诸葛亮身上的光环,今天你又要给曹操平凡了？可曹操的事情已经定论了啊！这还有争议吗？这话就是他说的啊,能说出这话,他能是什么好人？ Wang Shuixin frowns, he is a very repugnant Cao Cao's person. 王水新蹙眉,他就是非常讨厌曹操的一个人。 Many TV station colleague also look at each other in dismay, waited for Zhang Ye downward to say. 很多电视台的同事也都面面相觑,等着张烨往下说。 Zhang Ye said: „In the record of this matter, in the history book is contradictory, the general matter is because Dong Zhuo must persecute him, Cao Cao escaped to pass by his old friend family|home from Beijing, the name of this old friend was called Uncle Lu she, afterward had Cao Cao to kill the Uncle Lu extravagant massacre, this matter had three editions, the first edition was......” says that the Zhang Ye analysis said: „Actually, Cao Cao does not want to kill them or kills mistakenly the person, after the person died, Cao Cao is very sad, oh, considers as finished, rather I disappoint others others to disappoint me, we carefully examine this linguistic environment, Cao Cao said that this words, is actually consoling oneself, mediates, very reluctant was the one's own erroneous behavior has made a defense, but turned righteously to «Romance of the Three Kingdoms», moreover Cao Cao's original words were not this that everybody knew!” 张烨道:“在这个事情的记载,史书上是矛盾的,大概事情是因为董卓要迫害他,曹操从京城里逃出来路过他一个老朋友家,这个老朋友的名字叫吕伯奢,后来发生了曹操杀吕伯奢一家的惨案,这件事有三个版本,第一个版本是……”说罢,张烨分析道:“其实,曹操是不想杀他们或者是杀错了人的,人死了以后,曹操是很难过的,唉,算了算了,宁可我辜负别人不可以别人辜负我,我们体察一下这个语境,曹操说这个话,其实是一种自我安慰,自我排解,很勉强地为自己的错误行为做了一个辩护,而到了《三国演义》里面变成了理直气壮,而且曹操的原话并不是大家都知道的这个！” Um? 嗯？ What are his original words? 他原话是什么？ Isn't this? Isn't? 不就是这个吗？难道不是？ Zhang Ye said slowly: „Cao Cao's original words are rather my defeated/carrying person, don't person defeated/carrying I, but in «Romance of the Three Kingdoms» changing, in addition the world two characters, turned has rather taught my defeated/carrying world person, rests teaches world person defeated/carrying me, this was different, Cao Cao was to consider the matter and of itself at that time said this words, the person died, he did not have the means compensation, can only be unfair to others not to make others be unfair to him, in this saying retained the benevolence of certain extent actually, therefore at this matter, everybody has the question regarding Cao Cao's appraisal.” 张烨慢慢道:“曹操的原话是宁我负人,毋人负我,但《三国演义》里面给改了,加了天下两个字,变成了宁教我负天下人,休教天下人负我,这个就大不一样了,曹操那时候是就事论事才说了这种话,人都死了,他也没办法补偿,只能是对不起人家也不让人家对不起他了,这话里面其实是保留了一定程度的善心的,所以在这件事情上,大家对于曹操的评价是有疑问的。” „Said Cao Cao tolerant side again......” “再说曹操宽容的一面……” „Like this Cao Cao's posthumous writings write......” “曹操的遗书是这样写的……” „Therefore I think that appraisal to Cao Cao, is such five character adorable greatvillains! Why is the adorable greatvillain? Please listen to «Riddle of next issue of Greatvillain», thank you!” “所以我认为对曹操的评价,就是这么五个字可爱的奸雄！为什么是可爱的奸雄呢？请听下一期《奸雄之谜》,谢谢大家！” The Zhang Ye lecture, has bowed slightly. 张烨讲完了,微微鞠躬。 Immediately, below has raised the thunderous applause! 登时,下面掀起了雷动般的掌声！ Just like the first issue of audiences, this issue of audience also all stood up, has given Zhang Ye the applause! 跟第一期的观众们一样,这一期的现场观众也都全体起立了,啪啪啪啪,将掌声送给了张烨！ Good adorable greatvillain! 好一个可爱的奸雄！ Originally Cao Cao is not the appearance in their impression! 原来曹操不是他们印象中的样子啊！ Originally this eternity traitor, some these many unknown side! 原来这个千古奸贼,也有这么多不为人知的一面啊！ The people hear to shout loudly satisfy a craving, several audiences even just recorded in program, rushed with Zhang Ye must sign, very program that liked him saying, incomparably admired to the Zhang Ye knowledge quantity!( 众人听得大呼过瘾,有好几个观众甚至在节目刚一录完,就冲上去跟张烨要签名了,非常喜欢他说的节目,也对张烨的知识量无比佩服！( …… ……