HRE :: Volume #6

#583: Could not solve the problem,......


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Although condition disparity of both sides is disparate, under all parties compromise, what the negotiations are held is very smooth. 尽管双方的条件差距悬殊,但是在各方调和下,谈判进行的还是非常顺利。 Losing money is not possible, even if Sultan government is willing to lose money, they cannot draw cash, this war has hit to collapse their wallet. 赔钱是不可能的,就算是苏丹政府肯赔钱,他们也拿不出钱来,这场战争已经打崩了他们的钱包。 The present Ottoman empire the finance had in fact gone bankrupt, not only the international debt temporarily suspend payment, the wage of domestic public officials cannot send. 现在的奥斯曼帝国实际上已经财政破产了,不但国际债务暂停支付,就连国内公职人员的薪水也发不出来。 The Austria advantage launches this war to not to blackmail the war indemnity, although shouted that astronomical figures, that also asked an outrageous price. 地利发动这次战争本来就不是为了讹诈战争赔款,虽然喊出一个天文数字,那也只是漫天要价。 No money cedes territory, this is also the continental Europe general convention. This aspect in fact has nothing to discuss that eaten is impossible to spit again. 没钱就割地,这也是欧洲大陆通行的惯例。这方面实际上没啥好谈的,已经被吃下去的不可能再吐出来。 The request that Austria benefits is not high, besides was seized region that hundreds of thousands square kilometers land, increased Jerusalem and Arabian Peninsula. 地利的要求不高,除了被占领区域那十几万平方公里土地外,也就增加了耶路撒冷和阿拉伯半岛。 The Ottoman empire had lost to the actual control of Arabian Peninsula, the Austria advantage wants is also only one rules the validity of Arabian Peninsula in name. 奥斯曼帝国早就丧失了对阿拉伯半岛的实际控制权,地利要的也只是一个名义上统治阿拉伯半岛的合法性。 Made also on Jerusalem that truly Sultan government had a headache, this was not the strategy and economical issue, the decline Ottoman empire does not have the qualifications to discuss the Middle East strategy, was mainly the trouble in religion. 真正令苏丹政府头疼的也就耶路撒冷,这不是战略、经济上的问题,没落的奥斯曼帝国已经没有资格谈中东战略,主要是宗教上的麻烦。 In this issue, various European countries has not supported their. The politicians are also the person, similarly has the seven emotions and six sensory pleasures, contains Austria to benefit no doubt importantly, builds is not worth oneself. 偏偏在这个问题上,欧洲各国就没有支持他们的。政客也是人,同样有七情六欲,遏制地利固然重要,把自己搭进去就不值得了。 Betrays the holy land charge, no one can carry. In this issue supports the Ottoman empire, the spittle of people can spurt them. 出卖圣地的罪名,没有人背得起。这个问题上支持奥斯曼帝国,民众的唾沫星子都能把他们喷死。 Normally, this controversial negotiations can continue long time, what a pity the Ottoman empire internal contradictions intensify unceasingly, the war refugee is swallowing this country. 正常情况下,这种有争议的谈判会持续很长时间,可惜奥斯曼帝国内部矛盾不断激化,战争难民正在吞噬这个国家。 The Austria advantage can tow, Sultan government may be unable to insist. If did not end the war a bit faster, sends back to resume production the refugee, next year spring plowing was finished. 地利拖得起,苏丹政府可坚持不住。要是不快点儿结束战争,把难民送回去恢复生产,明年的春耕就完蛋了。 As an agricultural country, the family property of Ottoman empire is not thick, this war has exhausted the family property. Once the spring plowing cannot conduct smoothly, next year erupts the big famine they probably unable to withstand. 作为一个农业国,奥斯曼帝国的家底可不厚实,这场战争已经耗尽了家底。一旦春耕不能顺利进行,来年爆发大饥荒他们可顶不住。 In comparison, the Ottoman empire and Russia person's negotiations instead reached the impass. The Tsar government not only wants Caucasus that takes back in the previous war to discard, and wants to attain Bosphorus, but also set the indemnity request. 相比之下,奥斯曼帝国和俄国人的谈判反而陷入了僵局。沙皇政府既想要收回上一次战争中丢掉的高加索地区,又想要拿到黑海海峡,还提出了赔款要求。 Stands in the standpoint of Russia person, their requests meet the actual need. Alexander II needs one to win, offsets the adverse impact that the previous disaster brings. 站在俄国人的立场上,他们的要求是符合实际需要的。亚历山大二世需要给一场大胜,抵消上一次战争失败带来的恶劣影响。 The war had won, previous discarding Caucasus must take carry back. To Russian Empire, the Bosphorus strategic location is important, the Tsar government does not have the means to drop. 战争已经打赢了,上一次丢掉的高加索地区就必须拿回来。对俄罗斯帝国来说,黑海海峡战略位置非常重要,沙皇政府没有办法放手。 The Tsar government is poor, wants to demand that the war indemnity makes up for the finance. The request were too many, the Ottoman empire is naturally unacceptable. 沙皇政府穷得叮当响,又想索要战争赔款弥补财政。要求太多了,奥斯曼帝国自然不能接受。 Austria benefits and Russia person or the ally, this war jointly starts, Russia , Turkey negotiated had not finished, the truce treaty naturally could not sign. 地利和俄国人还是盟友,这场战争又是联合发动的,俄土谈判没有结束,停战条约自然签不下来。 To wanting to have a lion's share of Tsar government, Franz also shocked, he understands finally why everyone the appraisal to the Russia person must have greedily. 沙皇政府的狮子大开口,弗朗茨也震惊了,他终于明白为什么大家对俄国人的评价都少不了“贪婪”。 This is also not general greedy, if the Russia person dispatches troops to make the current victory alone, then the condition of Tsar government also reluctantly passable, but the issue is they not such strong strength. 这还不是一般的贪婪,如果俄国人独自出兵打出目前的战果,那么沙皇政府的条件还勉强说得过去,可问题是他们并没有这么强的实力。 So long as the Austria advantage stops providing the logistical materials, how long the frontline Russian force will unable to collapse, the Tsar government may not have money to tire the troops on a long expedition now. 只要地利停止发放后勤物资,前线的俄军要不了多久就会崩溃,沙皇政府现在可没钱劳师远征。 Franz does not think that Alexander II is a fool, such obvious truth Tsar government is definitely clear, then continues to persist in requesting such excessive condition, somewhat was thought-provoking. 弗朗茨不认为亚历山大二世是傻瓜,这么明显道理沙皇政府肯定清楚,那么继续坚持要求这么过分的条件,就有些耐人寻味了。 How the Russia person said, they also do want to continue this war?” 俄国人怎么说,他们还要继续这场战争么?” The present is to destroy completely the best time in Ottoman empire, by the Russia the hatred between people and Ottoman empires, the Tsar government wants to seize the chance to get rid of them is not strange. 现在是灭掉奥斯曼帝国的最佳时机,以俄国人和奥斯曼帝国之间的仇恨,沙皇政府想要趁机干掉他们并不奇怪。 Foreign minister Wessenberg: „ Your majesty, the Tsar government seems to be blowing hot and cold. They not only worry international pressure, does not want to let off the Ottoman empire. 外交大臣韦森贝格:“陛下,沙皇政府似乎在摇摆不定。他们既担心国际压力,又不想就这么放过奥斯曼帝国。 By the current situation, the war drags every time for day, will bring the serious loss to the Ottoman person. Although signed the truce treaty, the frontline Russian force still had not ceased the sabotage activity. 以目前的情况,战争每拖上一天,都会给奥斯曼人带来惨重的损失。尽管签订了停战条约,前线的俄军仍然没有停止破坏行动。 Pursues the peripheral people, fiddles with the farmland, path and hydraulic engineering, the destruction urban infrastructure facility, blows up *** temple...... ” 驱逐周边的民众,捣鼓农田、道路、水利工程,破坏城市基础设施,炸毁***寺……” These are the conventions of Russo-Turkish War, once determined after cannot seize, will conduct destroys wantonly. The Franz choice and Russia person forms a partnership, besides reducing war cost, is needs the Russia person to draw the hatred. 这些都是俄土战争的惯例,一旦确定不能够占领后,就会进行大肆破坏。弗朗茨选择和俄国人合伙,除了降低战争成本外,就是需要俄国人拉仇恨。 The international image also needs to serve as contrast, after having the atrocity of Russia person, even Austria Lijun team somewhat oversteps the limit occasionally, was not anything. 国际形象也是需要衬托的,有俄国人的暴行后,就算是地利军队偶尔有些出格,也不算啥了。 Asking of Franz doubts: You were said that the Russia person wanted to seize the chance to weaken the national strength of Ottoman empire, but did this have to either?” 弗朗茨疑惑的问:“你是说俄国人想要趁机削弱奥斯曼帝国的国力,不过这有必要么?” The war conducts now, the Ottoman empire has in fact abandoned. Dropped down hundreds of thousands in the battlefield young, was born several million refugees, the coastal area made into completely white, the home also erupted the civil war. 战争进行到现在,奥斯曼帝国实际上已经废了。在战场上倒下了数十万青壮,又诞生了数百万难民,沿海地区全部被打成白地,国内还爆发了内战。 Estimated with the experience of Franz, personnel casualties that this war creates perhaps will break through 2 million. Dies in the battlefield truly also 1/4 slightly many, majority dies on the way of fled. 弗朗茨的经验估计,这场战争造成的人员伤亡人数恐怕会突破两百万。真正死在战场上也就四分之一略多,大部分都死在了逃荒途中。 The biggest evil behind-the-scenes manipulator is hungry, next is the refugee who the disease and flees together. In front of the life and death, the human nature most cannot withstand the test. 最大的黑手是饥饿,其次是疾病和一起逃荒的难民。生死存亡面前,人性是最经不起考验的。 The Ottoman empire the vitality had damaged severely, then also has the civil war to continue. Now because of the external war, related to the life and death of Ottoman empire, forced the reformist and conservative faction has to collaborate temporarily. 奥斯曼帝国早就元气大伤了,接下来还有内战要继续。现在因为对外战争,关系到了奥斯曼帝国的生死存亡,迫使改革派和保守派不得不暂时联手。 Once the war ended, the situation will change, received this wave of stimulation not to know that had many revolutionary parties to produce, can Sultan government pass this tribulation is an issue. 一旦战争结束,情况就会发生变化,受了这波刺激不知道有多少革命党产生,苏丹政府能不能度过这一劫都是一个问题。 Wessenberg: „ Your majesty, the Ottoman empire is weak, there is a that big mass, no one knows them to be able the bath hot rebirth. 韦森贝格:“陛下,奥斯曼帝国再虚弱,也有那么大的体量,谁也不知道他们会不会浴火重生。 The ordinary period, the Russia person will not dread that their threats, but in the important pass of Prussia war possibly eruption, the Tsar government has to be careful momentarily. ” 平常时期,俄国人不会忌惮他们的威胁,但在普俄战争随时可能爆发的关口,沙皇政府就不得不小心谨慎了。” The people will grow, experience teaches, after by a lesson, the Russia person also drew the lesson. 人都是会成长的,吃一堑长一智,受过一次教训后,俄国人也吸取了教训。 Many combats, this does not have the matter of means that these years hated Radow, for a short time did not reduce and solve. Russian Empire powerful time are not related, decline time very awfully. 多线作战,这是没有办法的事情,这些年仇恨拉多了,一时半会儿也化解不了。俄罗斯帝国强大的时候没有关系,衰落的时候就非常要命了。 Hundred years of old enemy like Ottoman empire, does not need to consider to resolve the hatred, killed directly well. 奥斯曼帝国这样的百年宿敌,根本就不用考虑化解仇恨,直接打死了最好。 These year of nationalism vigorously develop in the Near East area, the Tsar government also contributed a strength. Once depends upon the religious rule Sultan government to crash, this multinational country will explode is split up. 这些年民族主义在近东地区蓬勃发展,沙皇政府也是贡献了一份力的。一旦依靠宗教统治的苏丹政府崩盘,这个多民族国家就会炸得四分五裂。 Fission from now on Ottoman, being doomed to fall into the national and in the religious revenged kill, loses completely threatens the strength of Russia person. 分裂过后的奥斯曼,注定要陷入民族、宗教仇杀中,彻底丧失威胁俄国人的实力。 To understand, Franz made decided: That makes UK , France bring the pressure on the Russia person, support they who we look like the typical form enough.” 想明白了过后,弗朗茨做出了决定:“那就让英法给俄国人施加压力,我们象征式的支持一下他们就够了。” To drag the Austria advantage to launch, do not say the gate, even the window does not have. Franz must keep the Ottoman empire to capture the attention of various European countries, if can make UK , France give the Sultan government blood transfusion, that was better. 想拖地利下水,不要说门,连窗户都没有。弗朗茨还要留着奥斯曼帝国吸引欧洲各国的目光,如果能够让英法给苏丹政府输血,那就更好了。 The history had shown, the decayed last years dynasty is not always fearful, is the new country possibly erupts stronger battle efficiency on the contrary. 历史早就证明,腐朽的末代王朝从来都不可怕,反倒是新生国家可能爆发出更强的战斗力。 Naturally this is few, overwhelming majority nascent state powers limited to the internal contradictions, lack the experience of governance place, makes a mess the country. 当然这是极少数,绝大部分新生政权受限于内部矛盾,缺乏治理地方的经验,把国家搞得一团糟。 Like Ottoman empire ethnic conflicts and religious conflict serious country, in the event of splitting that is the prolonged civil war. 奥斯曼帝国这种民族矛盾、宗教矛盾严重的国家,一旦发生了分裂那就是旷日持久的内战。 Original space and time that is the day of electing child Kyle end opens hangs, has Turkey of later generation, but contrasts the Ottoman empire, shrank most probably. 原时空那是天选之子凯尔末开挂,才有后世的土耳其,但对比奥斯曼帝国来说,还是缩水了大半。 Now does not need to consider, this famous Turkish father also did have the opportunity of birth, was an unknown. 现在不用考虑,这位大名鼎鼎的土耳其国父还有没有出生的机会,都是一个未知数。 Must know that the butterfly effect is terrifying, this Near East war changed the destinies of many, perhaps the parents of day electing child saw ahead of time ***. 要知道蝴蝶效应是恐怖的,这场近东战争改变了很多人的命运,没准天选之子的父母都提前见了***。 In the face of the historical billowing mighty current, individual strength is tiny. Franz does not think that the Ottoman empire also has the possibility of revival, this war had in fact marked a period for this established empire. 在历史滚滚洪流面前,个人的力量是渺小的。弗朗茨不认为奥斯曼帝国还有复兴的可能,这次战争实际上已经为这个老牌帝国画上了一个句号。 ...... …… Prime Minister Felix proposed: „ Your majesty, the Kingdom of Jerusalem had been received, now we have to consider to govern the issue. 费利克斯首相提议道:“陛下,耶路撒冷王国已经被收回来了,现在我们不得不考虑治理问题。 Because of the relations of religious belief, the local people do not support us, I suggested that reaches the extradition agreement with the Ottoman empire, sends back the Ottoman people. ” 因为宗教信仰的关系,当地的民众并不支持我们,我建议和奥斯曼帝国达成引渡协议,把奥斯曼人都遣送回去。” Repatriating, this has the precedent. Previous expands, the Vienna government all sent back the Ottoman person, this avoided the national and religious contradiction. 遣送回国,这是有先例的。此前的扩张中,维也纳政府都把奥斯曼人全部遣送了回去,这才避免了民族宗教矛盾。 Franz nods, added: „ Light repatriates the Ottoman person to return to homeland also insufficiently, the Jerusalem area was about to turn into the desert, we must solve the land contract period problem. 弗朗茨点了点头,补充道:“光遣返奥斯曼人回国还不够,耶路撒冷地区都快变成了沙漠,我们还要解决土地沙化问题。 Previously the experts proposed to the local land fallow 20 years, had the constructive nature. Jerusalem is religious holy land, the local area does not need to develop the industry and agriculture, developed the tourist economy enough. ” 此前专家们提出的对当地土地休耕二十年,就非常有建设性。耶路撒冷是宗教圣地,当地不需要发展工农业,发展旅游经济就够了。” This age people are poor, the tourist economy could not have developed. As long as has the exception, the people are poor have wealthily, for example after Vienna turns into the lively district, attracted many people to come with admiration. 这个年代民众们穷,旅游经济还发展不起来。但凡是都有例外,民众再穷还是有富裕的,比如说维也纳变成不夜城后,就吸引到了很多人慕名而来。 Jerusalem not to mention, the special position in religion, did not fear that no one goes. Did not say can make one's own way, but maintains the local government to revolve can achieve. 耶路撒冷更不用说,宗教上的特殊地位,就不怕没有人去。不说能够发家致富,但是维持地方政府运转还是做得到的。 Land fallow that is inevitable, Austria is the agricultural exporter, does not lack this grain yield. 土地休耕那是必然的,地利本身就是农业出口国,根本就不缺这点儿粮食产量。
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