discuss Jing...... 辩经…… Unlike western religion in Blue Star, is having the unusual strength, has Segers World that God has, debating is not rare after this phenomenon. 与蓝星上的西方宗教不同,在有着超凡力量,有着神灵存在的赛格斯世界,辩经这种现象并不罕见。 Because God walks by Incarnation frequently in the land, follower regarding the awe of God , is not completely doctrine. 而且因为神灵经常以化身行走在大地上,信徒对于神灵的敬畏,也不完全是教条式的。 The Segers World followers do not refuse to reconsider, their thought are also often more open compared to certain religious believers in Blue Star, is more inclusive. 赛格斯世界的信徒们并不拒绝反思,他们的思想相对于蓝星上的某些宗教信徒来说往往也更加开放,更加包容。 Here, debating after most situations is the church God Position discussion, conducts the religious ponder. 在这里,辩经大多数情况下是教会内部的神职者讨论,进行宗教思考。 But regarding True God, they are also glad to see this situation, even sometimes also according to followers obtained improves own doctrine. 而对于真神来说,祂们也乐得见到这种情况,甚至有时候还会根据信徒们的所得来完善自己的教义。 So long as helps God develop the influence, strengthens the idea of faith, will be admitted by them. 只要有利于神灵发展势力,强化信仰的理念,都会被祂们接纳。 Also is therefore, had the True God endorsement, discuss Jing had the sacred halo, very well-respected in the Segers World major churches. 也是因此,有了真神背书,辩经就有了神圣的光环,在赛格斯世界的各大教会中都很受重视。 But gradually, the contradictions between many churches first to also often debate after form solution. 而久而久之,不少教会之间的矛盾也往往会先以辩经的形式解决。 However, teaches and discuss Jing between church is different. 不过,教会与教会之间的辩经又有所不同。 The doctrine days between different True God leave badly, the debate is very often difficult to convince each other, some even because of the conflict of principle, but also contradicts. 不同真神之间的教义天差地别,辩论起来往往很难说服彼此,有的甚至因为法则的冲突,还相互矛盾。 More often, the priests in different church take discuss Jingwei as the method, suppresses the other side the topic guidance that will debate to the domain that oneself get the advantage, or seeks the legitimacy from the doctrine and creed for own behavior. 更多的时候,不同教会的教士们还是以辩经为手段,将辩论的话题引导到自己占优势的领域来打压另一方,或者说从教义和信条中为自己的行为寻求正当性。 In other words, through discuss Jing, molds the principle of righteousness. 换句话说,就是通过辩经,来塑造大义。 This principle of righteousness is really not necessarily correct, sometimes even is a paradox, but also even quibbled sometimes simply. 这大义不一定真的是正确的,有时候甚至是一种诡辩,还有的时候甚至干脆是狡辩。 However, because debated after existence of god holy light link, caused to want finally in the imposing manner, crushed the opposite party in the result, then means the victory. 但是,因为辩经的神圣光环的存在,导致只要最终在气势,在结果上压倒了对方,那么就意味着胜利了。 This debate often appears in the religious trial of Segers World. 这种辩论常在赛格斯世界的宗教审判中出现。 A side that if wins is Judge, they even can handle hostile God Position of failure at will. 而若是胜利的一方是审判者,他们甚至能够随意处置失败的敌对神职者。 Even if the opposite party is God's Favored. 哪怕对方是神眷者。 This is also among True God was tacit, in some sense they also through this means that indirectly the improvement and development that promotes themselves to teach. 这也算是真神之间的默契了,某种意义上来说祂们也是通过这种办法,来间接促进自己教会的完善和发展。 Naturally, the above is aims in two church power gap not big situations. 当然,以上是针对两个教会实力差距不大的情况下。 In Segers World, since 800 years ago Holy Mania Empire expands the limit, after Eternal Lord faith gradually proliferates the entire starry sky, Eternal Church in many churches outshines others, presented the overwhelming great strength. 在赛格斯世界,自从八百年前神圣曼尼亚帝国扩张到极限,永恒之主的信仰逐渐遍布整个星空之后,永恒教会就在诸多教会中一枝独秀,呈现了压倒性的强大。 But, debated after this behavior gradually, in the exchange processes of Eternal Church and in other churches, were getting fewer and fewer. 而渐渐地,辩经这种行为,在永恒教会与其他教会的交流过程中,就越来越少了。 Debate this matter, the might does not need. 辩论这种事,强权根本不需要。 Also is therefore, after hearing Johann's words, Judge Bishop will gawk slightly. 也是因此,听到老约翰的话之后,审判主教才会微微一愣。 discuss Jing...... 辩经么…… At this moment, his vision somewhat seems to be absent-minded. 这一刻,他的目光似乎有些恍惚。 Since becomes the Eternal Church bishop, he has not listened to this word probably for a long time. 自从成为永恒教会的主教,他好像好久都没有听过这个词了。 Because of the trial of Eternal Church, only needs to display by the Judge indictment, then burnt down to be OK. 因为永恒教会的审判,只需要罗列出被审判者的罪状,然后一把火烧掉就可以了。 However, today's object somewhat is indeed special, because today placed on trial is not the ordinary follower, but is God's Favored. 不过,今天的对象的确有些特殊,因为今天被审判的并非是普通信徒,而是一位神眷者。 Moreover, he is not only God's Favored, is Greater Divine Power God's Favored, faint has been able has meeting as an equal strength God's Favored of church in Segers World and Eternal Church. 不仅如此,他不但是神眷者,还是一位强大神力的神眷者,一个隐隐已经能够在赛格斯世界与永恒教会有着分庭抗礼力量的教会的神眷者。 Facing such God's Favored trial, the need is indeed more prudent. 面对这样的神眷者审判,的确需要更加慎重一些。 „What kind of? Said as the Eternal Church bishop, don't you have with my discuss Jing courage now continually?” “怎么样？还是说身为永恒教会的主教,您现在连与我辩经的勇气都没有了吗？” Looks at look Yin clear uncertain Judge Bishop, Johann continues to smile to say. 看着神色阴晴不定的审判主教,老约翰继续微笑道。 In his words wadding belt/bring needle, although temperate tranquil, but contains intense provocative meaning. 他的话绵里带针,虽然温和平静,但其中却蕴含着强烈的挑衅意味。 The Judge Bishop anger came up instantaneously. 审判主教的怒意瞬间就上来了。 He is staring Johann stubbornly, both eyes are red. 他死死瞪着老约翰,双目赤红。 But has pressed the anger eventually sanely, he is cloudy the face to turn head finally, looked that to sat in the above court black clothes archbishop high. 但终究是理智压过了怒气,他最终阴着脸回过头,看向了高坐在上方的审判所黑衣总主教。 The black clothes archbishop facial expression is tranquil. 黑衣总主教神情平静。 Vision that notices Judge Bishop to cast, he has not given the response immediately, but looked to by the church supreme leader who the numerous stars surrounded, Pope Benedict II. 注意到审判主教投来的目光,他并没有立刻给出回应,而是看向了被众星环绕的教会最高领袖,教皇本笃二世。 Suddenly, the vision of many Cleric and bishop stayed on the body of Pope Benedict II. 一时间,不少牧师和主教的目光都停留在了本笃二世的身上。 Pope Benedict II as before is a calm appearance. 本笃二世依旧是一副波澜不惊的样子。 Saw only his chuckle, nodded the head slightly. 只见他轻笑了一声,微微颔首。 Sees that Judge Bishop comprehended the meaning of Saint place instantaneously. 见状,审判主教瞬间就领会了圣座的意思。 Life Church the potential is gradually big. 生命教会已经逐渐势大。 At this moment, the only indictment and trial, are very perhaps difficult to coerce the numerous intent. 此时此刻,单凭指控与审判,恐怕已经很难压服众意。 Only then from the doctrine, spiritually thoroughly destroys the opposite party, truly the goal that can achieve this trial, can occupy the true principle of righteousness, prepares for the following action. 只有从教义上,从精神上彻底摧毁对方,才能真正达到此次审判的目的,才能占据真正的大义,为接下来的行动做准备。 Thinks of here, Judge Bishop sneers, said: 想到这里,审判主教冷笑一声,说道: „What's wrong, obtains the blessings outcastes by luck, wants to bribe sacred discuss Jing?” “怎么,一个侥幸获得神眷的贱民,也想要染指神圣的辩经吗？” „Outcastes also mentioned from where, could it be regarding Eternal Church, the aristocrat and God Position who only then kept aloof was a person, were our these average people humble existences?” “贱民又从何说起,难道对于永恒教会来说,只有高高在上的贵族与神职者才是人,我们这些普通人都是低贱的存在吗？” Johann said at a moderate pace. 老约翰不紧不慢地说道。 Such remarks, the people that the surroundings surround whooped instantaneously. 此话一出,周围围观的民众瞬间议论纷纷了起来。 Eternal Church God Position facial expression one austere. 永恒教会的神职者们神情一肃。 They know, discuss Jing, has started. 他们知道,辩经,已经开始了。 A Judge Bishop brow wrinkle. 审判主教眉头一皱。 His cold snort/hum, said: 他冷哼了一声,说: „Snort! The evil believer is the evil believer! By the present, wants to sow dissension unexpectedly, misleads the people!” “哼！邪教徒就是邪教徒！到了现在,竟然还想挑拨离间,蛊惑民众！” „But, an outcastes word was not you just said? I had just said you merely words, develops some that's all thoroughly.” “可是,贱民一词不是您刚刚说的吗？我仅仅是将您刚刚说过的话,深入拓展一些罢了。” Johann shakes the head. 老约翰摇了摇头。 Saying, his laughs: 说着,他一声嗤笑: „Perhaps...... this is Eternal Church false.” “或许……这就是永恒教会的虚伪吧。” „Although propagandizes in front of True God in the doctrine all people being equal, so long as faith is reverent, after the death, can rise into God's Kingdom to obtain the happiness and peace, however in the reality is to tell the followers do not revolt, must learn to endure patiently, oh resign oneself to adversity, must obey in aristocrat's rule......” “虽然在教义上宣传真神面前人人平等,只要信仰虔诚,死亡之后就能升入神国获得幸福与安宁,然而现实里却是告诉信徒们不要反抗,要学会忍耐,啊哟逆来顺受,要服从于贵族的统治……” „But, the reality cannot even hold, discussed after what said the death ?” “可是,连现实都抓不住,又谈何说死亡之后呢？” „From this angel, Eternal Church...... is one helps a tyrant do evil, the help aristocrat oppresses the people, dominant tool that's all of consolidated decayed empire.” “从这个角度讲,永恒教会……不过是一个助纣为虐,帮助贵族压迫人民,巩固腐朽帝国的统治工具罢了。” Such remarks, the surrounded people startle immediately greatly. 此话一出,围观的民众顿时大骇。 Everyone looks at Johann with the vision that panic-stricken shocks, has not thought that he dares to satirize Eternal Church unexpectedly. 所有人都用惊恐又震撼的目光看着老约翰,万万没有想到他竟然敢如此讽刺永恒教会。 In Segers World, the theocracy is bigger than the royal power to be recognized. 要知道,在赛格斯世界,神权大于王权是公认的。 However, Johann talked into the accessories of royal power the theocracy...... 然而,老约翰却将神权说成了王权的附属品…… This simply is blaspheming of stark naked! 这简直是赤*裸*裸的亵渎！ The Judge Bishop facial expression changes. 审判主教神情微变。 He angrily rebukes saying: 他怒斥道: „Shut up! The heathen of this outright nonsense! The Saint teaches maintains the balance of human order, how to tolerate you to blaspheme?!” “住口！你这个满口胡言的异教徒！圣教乃是维护人类秩序的天平,岂能容你亵渎？！” The deep breath the one breath, he sneered, continued: 深呼吸了一口气,他冷笑一声,继续说: „Reality and death? Snort, since birth how long can the person? But after dying, how long?” “现实和死亡？哼,人生来能有多久？而死后又有多久？” „The pain in world, but is My Lord gives follower's test, so long as has a devout heart, after the death, can ascend to into the heaven, obtains the eternal life...... this point, does not look at the family background, does not look in any case, only looks devotionally!” “世间的痛苦,不过是吾主予以信徒的考验,只要拥有一颗虔诚的心,死亡之后就能升入天国,获得永生……这一点,不看出身,不看贵贱,只看虔诚！” „what Zhonghe is actually light, you do not understand!” “究竟何重何轻,你根本不懂！” Johann sighed lightly: 老约翰一声轻叹: „Therefore...... I said that Eternal Church is false.” “所以……我才说永恒教会虚伪啊。” „In front of God all people being equal? Perhaps, however...... is the Eternal Church equality, the true equality?” “神灵面前人人平等？或许吧,然而……永恒教会的平等,是真正的平等吗？” „Does not look at the family background, does not look in any case...... hehe, but with one illusory ‚equality’, covers another ‚is not equal’ that's all.” “不看出身,不看贵贱……呵呵,只不过是用一个虚无缥缈的‘平等’,来掩盖另一个‘不平等’罢了。” „Similarly is a follower, humility is certainly why humble? Noble is certainly why noble?” “同样是信徒,为什么低贱者一定要低贱？为什么高贵者一定要高贵？” „Aristocrat forever is an aristocrat, but was the poor oppressed forever? This reasonable?” “贵族永远都是贵族,而贫民永远都被压迫？这合理吗？” „Aristocrats enjoy in the castle, are living the wanton and luxurious living life, but the poor not only need rush about for the livelihood frequently, but must endure patiently aristocrat's oppression and exploitation, this reasonable?” “贵族们在城堡中享受,过着纸醉金迷的生活,而贫民不仅要时时刻刻为生计奔波,还要忍耐贵族的压迫和剥削,这合理吗？” „Aristocrat can with the God Position intimate contact, be able to pray in the best pray room, even can accept the priest baptism......” “贵族能够与神职者亲密往来,能在最好的祈祷室中祈祷,甚至能够接受圣职者的洗礼……” „However, the civilians were not even looked straight at to look at one by God Position, can only , when most no use , helping to the God hope, some poor are sick, because even does not have the doctor's fee, even the front door of church cannot go, this reasonable?!” “然而,平民甚至不被神职者正眼瞧一眼,只能在最无助的时候,向神灵祈求帮助,一些贫民患病,甚至因为出不起诊金,连教会的大门都进不去,这合理吗？！” „This is unreasonable!” “这不合理！” „Was saying the faith equality, said in front of God everyone to be the same, but this is Eternal Church deceives excuse that's all of people!” “说着信仰平等,说着神灵面前人人都是一样的,但这不过是永恒教会糊弄民众的说辞罢了！” „The Eternal Church essence, oppresses the tools of people!” “永恒教会的本质,就是压迫群众的工具！” Speaking of finally, Johann almost scolded sternly. 说到最后,老约翰几乎是厉声呵斥。 Such remarks, the discussion of surroundings people seemed to be bigger. 此话一出,周围民众的议论声似乎更大了。 Some obviously are the people of studying, is lost in thought gradually. 一些明显是读过书的人,渐渐陷入了沉思。 But others, although the facial expression is vacant, but looked that actually somewhat changed to the vision of Eternal Church God Position. 而另一些人,虽然神情茫然,但看向永恒教会神职者的目光却有些变了。 Sees this scene, some Eternal Church God Position knit the brows slightly, shoots a look at takes one to be discontented to the Judge Bishop vision. 看到这幅场景,一些永恒教会的神职者微微皱了皱眉,瞥向审判主教的目光带上了一丝不满。 But the Judge Bishop look also slightly changes, soon realized oneself seemed to be pulled the nose to walk by the opposite party. 而审判主教的神色也微微一变,很快意识到自己似乎被对方牵起了鼻子走。 The doctrine of any church has the reasonable place, but, definitely also has the respective loophole. 任何教会的教义都有合理之处,但同时,肯定也是都有着各自的漏洞的。 But discuss Jing, holds the loophole of opposite party to put it bluntly, makes an effort to enlarge. 而辩经,说白了就是抓住对方的漏洞,使劲放大。 Also is therefore, in debating in process, most abstains led by the nose by the opposite party, has been debating certain religious doctrines that one teach, but should initiate an attack, grasps the painful foot of opposite party. 也是因此,在辩经的过程中,最忌讳的就是被对方牵着鼻子走,一直在辩论自家教会的某些教义,而是应该主动出击,去抓对方的痛脚。 Judge Bishop responded quickly. 审判主教很快就反应了过来。 Too long has not debated, this time, he really made the low level mistake. 太久没有辩经了,这一次,他真的是犯了低级错误。 After coming soberly, he narrowed the eye, the anger snort/hum , to continue to reprimand: 清醒过来以后,他眯了眯眼睛,怒哼一声,继续斥责道: „Paradox! Weak! Absurd!” “诡辩！幼稚！荒谬！” „In this world, where has absolute fair?” “这个世界上,哪有绝对的公平？” „Life Church advocates the myriad things equality, simply is false, weak, laughable!” “生命教会主张万物平等,简直就是虚伪,幼稚,可笑！” „One since birth is the person of big aristocrat, with person who does not have a thing in the world since birth, can be the same?” “一个生来就是大贵族的人,与一个生来一无所有的人,能一样吗？” „A person who grasps the unusual strength, does not know several average people with one character, can be the same?” “一个掌握超凡力量的人,和一个连字都不认识几个普通人,能一样吗？” „This world is not equal! Everyone equality, will only bring a bigger inequality forcefully, will only bring the major problem!” “这个世界本来就是不平等的！强行将所有人平等,只会带来更大的不平等,只会带来更大的问题！” „Myriad things have its operating law, the society is also, the order is also! The people since birth are not equal! Where orderly, where has the rank! Maintains the rank, can maintain the stability of the world!” “万物自有其运行规律,社会也是,秩序也是！人生来就是不平等的！哪里有秩序,哪里就有等级！维持好等级,才能保持世界的稳固！” „Life Church artificial is, completely opposes in the manufacture! The Life Church all living things equality, is biggest false!” “生命教会的所做作为,完全是在制造对立！生命教会的众生平等,才是最大的虚伪！” „Life Church by does not instigate the follower equally, misleads the people, the manufacture confusion, but for oneself selfish desire that's all!” “生命教会以不平等来煽动信徒,蛊惑民众,制造混乱,不过是为了一己私欲罢了！” „All living things equality? The enthusiasm that hey...... the complete equality, will only attack people, lets the power that the person loses progresses!” “众生平等？嘿……完全的平等,只会打击人们的积极性,让人失去上进的动力！” „This is from head to tail false!” “这才是彻头彻尾的虚伪！” „Only has My Lord, the inequality of acknowledgment world ; Only has My Lord, the inequality of respect world ; Meanwhile, My Lord treats each follower by the vision of equality, this is the true equality!” “只有吾主,承认世间的不平等;只有吾主,尊重世间的不平等;同时,吾主以平等的目光对待每一个信徒,这才是真正的平等！” „Equality relative, the equal premise is the order! Orderly, has the equality!” “平等是相对的,平等的前提是秩序！有秩序,才有平等！” Listened to the Judge Bishop words, Johann sighed lightly: 听了审判主教的话,老约翰一声轻叹: „But, did Eternal Church really achieve?” “可是,永恒教会真的做到了吗？” Saying, his facial expression one austere, scolded: 说着,他神情一肃,呵斥道: „Treats each follower by the vision of equality?” “以平等的目光对待每一个信徒？” „......, however I noticed that is actually Eternal Church and aristocrat acts in collusion, oppresses the people!” “呵……然而我看到的,却是永恒教会与贵族沆瀣一气,压迫民众！” „The inequality of respect world?” “尊重世间的不平等？” „......, however I noticed that is Eternal Church is conservative, increases world the grievance!” “呵……然而我看到的,却是永恒教会保守顽固,加大世间的不平！” „Right! This world indeed is not equal......, however regarding human state, the inequality among people, the itself/Ben is aristocrat's oppression is the result every so often! But Eternal Church, is the biggest accomplice!” “没错!这个世界的确是不平等的……然而对于人类国度来说,人与人之间的不平等,很多时候本就是贵族的压迫所致！而永恒教会,就是最大的帮凶！” „What Eternal Church represents is only the interest of aristocrat and rich person, what Eternal Church cares is only unusualness and hierarch the value, Eternal Church does not care regarding the general poor!” “永恒教会代表的只是贵族和富人的利益,永恒教会在乎的只是超凡者和掌权者的价值,永恒教会对于广大的贫民根本不在乎！” „The population of aristocrat occupies the entire human race less than 1%, the number of unusualness occupies the person of clan total is less than 1/10, Eternal Church representative merely is benefit that's all of few person!” “贵族的人口占据全人类的不到百分之一,超凡者的数量占据人族总数不到十分之一,永恒教会代表的仅仅是极少数人的利益罢了！” „Ordinary talent is overwhelming majorities, the ordinary talent is the Human World cornerstone, was separated from Eternal Church of people...... not to have the qualifications to say oneself were the Human World protector!” “普通人才是绝大多数,普通人才是人类世界的基石,脱离群众的永恒教会……没有资格说自己是人类世界的守护者！” Such remarks, the discussion in square was bigger. 此话一出,广场上的议论声更大了。 The vision of a lot of people gradually changed, some nod approval, some people even threw gently to Eternal Church the line of sight of having the hostility. 不少民众的目光渐渐变了,有的轻轻点头认同,有人甚至向永恒教会投去了带有敌意的视线。 „Shut up!” “住口！” Judge Bishop also got angry: 审判主教也怒了: „What do you understand? The aristocrats control the knowledge, the unusualness control strength, but the person of control knowledge and strength, should shoulder the responsibility of rule! This...... is the Segers World order!” “你懂什么？贵族掌控知识,超凡者掌控力量,而掌控知识与力量的人,本就应该肩负起统治的责任！这……是赛格斯世界的秩序！” „could it be Life Church counted on that does not have the strength, without the ignorant person of knowledge rules?” “难道生命教会指望一些没有力量,没有知识的愚昧之人来统治吗？” „This is the biggest irresponsibleness!” “这才是最大的不负责任！” „Let alone, advocated that all living things equality Life Church, how does have the qualifications to gesticulate to us? If believed in Life Church, advocates the myriad things equality, other races rise, human will lose the position of era lead surely!” “更别说,提倡众生平等的生命教会,如何有资格对我们指手画脚？如果信奉了生命教会,崇尚万物平等,其他种族崛起,人类定会失去纪元主角的地位！” „Then regarding entire Human World, is the biggest nightmare!” “那对于整个人类世界来说,才是最大的噩梦！” „Eternal Church is entire human race Eternal Church, is eternal of entire human race, however Life Church, is actually not entire human race Life Church!” “永恒教会是全人类的永恒教会,是全人类的永恒,然而生命教会,却不是全人类的生命教会！” The Judge Bishop words are loud and clear. 审判主教的话语掷地有声。 Listened to his words, the people discussed again. Just still in the follower of blowing hot and cold, fell into the thinking again. 听了他的话,民众再次议论了起来。刚刚还在摇摆不定的信徒,再度陷入了思索。 However, Johann sighed merely gently: 不过,老约翰仅仅是轻轻一叹: „This was the issue.” “这就是问题所在了。” Saying, him is shaking the head slowly: 说着,他缓缓摇了摇头: „Mr. Judge Bishop, you to the Your Excellency The Goddess faith, you to the ideal of our life preaching, knows nothing......” “审判主教先生,你对女神冕下的信念,你对我们生命传道者的理想,一无所知……” „You do not know that true idea of our Life Church, you do not know that the true pursue of our Life Church, does not know our Life Church true greatness......” “你根本不知道我们生命教会的真正理念,你也根本不知道我们生命教会的真正追求,更不知道我们生命教会的真正伟大之处……” „Your Eternal Church, but keeps off before the wheel of history, stubborn not spirit, stop human society progressive stumbling obstacle that's all.” “你们永恒教会,不过是挡在历史车轮前,顽固不灵、阻拦人类社会进步的绊脚石罢了。” 亲,点击进去,给个好评呗,分数越高更新越快,据说给新打满分的最后都找到了漂亮的老婆哦! 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