EG :: Volume #10

#974: Appraisal of Forbes

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„Feng, I can understand am, do you in this time financial crisis in Asia, the profit exceed 100 five One billion US dollars?” Steve pursues asks. “冯,我可以理解为,你在这次的亚洲金融危机中,获利超过100五十亿美元吗？”史蒂夫追问道。 Feng Yu nods: „Can such understand.” 冯宇点点头:“可以这么理解。” „Therefore you united with Quantum Fund, the financial crisis that you start together?” The Steve words, are bringing the knife point suddenly. “所以你是跟量子基金联合了,你们共同掀起的这场金融危机？”史蒂夫的话语,忽然带着刀锋。 „Just the opposite, I oppose Quantum Fund. My foundation united Hong Kong several famous funds, collaborates to resist Quantum Fund, enables Soros Southeast Asia ruthless of economical destruction, this is not the secret. How to make a profit regarding me, this is the business secret.” “恰恰相反,我是反对量子基金的。我的基金会联合了香江几个著名的基金,联手对抗量子基金,才让索罗斯没能将东南亚的经济破坏的更狠,这不是什么秘密。至于说我到底怎么获利的,这是商业机密。” Steve does not believe Feng Yu these words obviously, can have such high profit, stock that definitely buys, no matter the foreign exchange or the stock index, definitely buy spatially, this obviously with Soros one group. 史蒂夫明显不太相信冯宇这句话,能有这么高的利润,肯定是买的期货,不管是外汇还是股指,肯定都是沽空的,这明显就是跟索罗斯一伙的。 The news that but he obtains has also proven the Feng Yu words, Feng Yu also really with the Soros open confrontation. This issue, he does not plan to go into seriously, «Forbes» only discussed the trade, did not discuss other issues. The «Forbes» angle, Soros is also successful! 但他得到的消息也证明了冯宇的话,冯宇还真跟索罗斯公开对抗过。这个问题,他不打算深究,《福布斯》只谈商业,不谈其他问题。在《福布斯》的角度来看,索罗斯也是成功的！ „Feng, you have approximately 15% Microsoft stocks is right?” Steve changes the topic to ask. “冯,你持有约15的微软股票对吗？”史蒂夫岔开话题问道。 „Now probably is less than 15%, probably last year share matching, I divided to arrive has been short.” Does Feng Yu look to Bill? Gates, Microsoft had rewarded some management stocks last year once more, he is less than the equity incentive that all board member/director obtain. “现在好像不到15了,去年的配股,好像我分到的少了一些。”冯宇看向比尔?盖茨,去年微软再次奖励了高管们一些股票,他比所有董事获得的股票奖励都少。 „Feng, this matter is the Board of Directors decision, after all last year you were too short in the time that Microsoft presented that even Board of Directors many times has not participated, everybody also had a complaint. Although has been short as the stock of board member/director reward, share matching that but earns as the shareholder, you may not be short.” “冯,这件事是董事会决定的,毕竟去年你在微软出现的时间太短了,甚至董事会都多次没参加,大家也有所怨言。虽然作为董事奖励的股票少了一些,但作为股东应得的配股,你可一股都没少。” „Has not related, I can understand that I am Microsoft board member/director right?” This matter is Paul Allen raises, other board member/director support completely, Bill? Gates these time has not stood Feng Yu, but Bill? Gates persisted in retaining Feng Yu board member/director and position of Asian vice president, this made Feng Yu satisfied. “没关系,我能理解,我还是微软的董事没错吧？”这件事是保罗?艾伦提出来的,其他董事全部支持,比尔?盖茨这一次也没站在冯宇这边,但比尔?盖茨还是坚持保留了冯宇的董事和亚洲副总裁的职位,这点让冯宇还算满意。 „Naturally, your position will not change.” Bill? Gates relaxed, initially he said to Feng Yu that rewards cannot be short, he also really worried that Feng Yu gets angry with him for this reason, he lets Microsoft in the footsteps that China expands, will want to be slower inevitably. This year but Microsoft the plan continues to release update the operating system, the China market cannot discard absolutely. “当然,你的职位不会改变。”比尔?盖茨松了口气,当初他可是跟冯宇说,奖励不会少的,他还真担心冯宇为此跟他翻脸,那他让微软在华夏扩张的脚步,势必要慢许多。今年微软可是打算继续推出新版的操作系统呢,华夏市场绝对不能舍弃。 „Feng, even if the equity ratio slightly reduces, but the total fold of yarn increased right? The Microsoft stock value grew much, the stockholder's rights of your this part, the market value should exceed 10 billion US dollars.” “冯,就算股权比例略有降低,但总股数还是增加了对吧？微软的股票市值又增长了不少,你这部分的股权,市值应该超过了10000000000美元。” „Right? Also grew, it seems like that the initial investment, was really wise.” Feng Yu sets an appearance of accident, actually he is not accidental. “是吗？又增长了啊,看来当初的投资,真是明智啊。”冯宇做出一副意外的样子,其实他一点都不意外。 „Was right, as far as I know, the China biggest PC production discussed Lenovo, there is your stock? The convenience disclosed that how many?” “对了,据我所知,华夏最大的PC产销商连想,也有你的股份吧？方便透露一下,到底多少吗？” „Many, has not been inferior to Microsoft.” “没多少,远不如微软这边的。” „My conservative estimate three hundred million US dollars, do you mind?” Lenovo becomes the sales champion in China that big market, the potential is huge, Steve to the estimate of Lenovo, has exceeded One billion US dollar. “我保守估计三个亿美元,你介意吗？”连想成为华夏那么大市场的销售冠军,潜力巨大,史蒂夫给连想的估价,超过了十亿美元。 Conservative estimate 300 million US dollars? The Feng Yu heart said that you also were really too conservative, if Feng Yu weighed, the Lenovo stock, others gave ten hundred million US dollars him not to sell, the market, brand and technology, the value seriously was underestimated. However do these three hundred million US dollars, how use the Lenovo stock mortgage loan amount to be similar to him probably? 保守估计300000000美元？冯宇心说,你还真是太保守了,要是冯宇自己心里衡量,连想的股份,别人给十个亿美元他也不卖,市场、品牌和技术,价值都严重被低估了。不过这三个亿美元,怎么好像跟他用连想股份抵押贷款的数额差不多呢？ „Did not mind.” “不介意。” „The Wind & Rain Brand trademark, was these years securities litigation reform develops quickly, one of the most fiery/popular trademarks, you were the holding major stockholder was right? Can discuss, browsing of Wind & Rain Brand is broad?” In Steve family|home, there is Wind & Rain Brand super VCD. “风雨牌商标,是这几年消费电子市场发展最快,最火爆的商标之一,你是控股大股东对吧？能谈一谈,风雨牌的涉猎有多么广吗？”史蒂夫的家里,也有一台风雨牌的超级VCD。 „humidifier, bladeless fan, VCD, DVD and cell phone are the main products, some related technologies have the patent, has charged many authorized fee, in the future we will also prepare to march the television and computer display market.” “加湿器、无叶风扇、VCD、DVD和手机是主要产品,还有一些相关的技术拥有专利,收取了不少授权费用,未来我们还准备进军电视和电脑显示器市场。” „We find that Wind & Rain Electronics, Wind & Rain Appliances and Japan AIWA Corporation and China Aihua Corporation, has the broad cooperation, among your several Corporation is what relates?” “我们了解到,风雨电子、风雨电器跟岛国的AIWA公司、华夏的爱华公司,有着广泛的合作,请问你们几家公司之间是什么关系？” „Cooperation, we also with Philips are the cooperation, carries out some technically and cooperation on sale.” Feng Yu selects the eyebrow, Steve Forbes does not know that the AIWA major stockholder is also he, that first does not reach an agreement. “合作关系啊,我们还跟飞利普是合作关系,进行一些技术上和销售上的合作等。”冯宇一挑眉毛,史蒂夫?福布斯不知道AIWA的大股东也是他,那就先不说好了。 „According to our knowledge, the China biggest car(riage) business, or is machine manufacture Corporation, you have the stock in, you are that Corporation major stockholder is right?” Steve looks at Feng Yu to ask. “据我们了解,华夏最大的车企,或者说是机械制造公司,你在里面也有股份,你是那家公司的大股东对吗？”史蒂夫看着冯宇问道。 „A little, but there also has my father's stock. That Corporation total Manager has someone else, I do not participate in the management.” Feng Yu wants to have a look, Steve Forbes to his investigation clear. “有一点,不过那里也有我父亲的股份。那家公司的总经理另有其人,我都不参与管理的。”冯宇想看看,史蒂夫?福布斯对他的调查到底有多清晰。 China is not the US, the information is not public. Let alone these Company are not listing Corporation, the material that they can obtain is definitely limited, the majority of estimates guessed. 华夏不是米国,信息没有那么公开。更何况这些企业都不是上市公司,他们能得到的资料肯定有限,大部分估计都是猜测。 Really, a Feng Yu such saying, Steve had not asked that but starts to ask the Wahaha matter. 果然,冯宇这么一说,史蒂夫也没有多问,而是开始问乐哈哈的事情。 „Wahaha group, China and even Asian biggest drink production business, even presses two happy Corporation, cannot gain ground in China, this Corporation, there is your stock is right?” “乐哈哈集团,华夏乃至亚洲最大的饮料产销商,甚至压得两乐公司,在华夏都抬不起头,这家公司,也有你的股份对吗？” „Right, this Corporation, there are my some stocks, but this Corporation, I have a position of adviser, does not have one point of wage.” Feng Yu exhibits is the appearance of young shareholder. “没错,这家公司,也有我的一些股份,但这家公司,我只有一个顾问的职位,没有一分薪水的。”冯宇又摆出一副自己是小股东的样子。 „Taihua Supermarket Group, China and even Asian biggest retail Company, you have the stock in is right?” “泰华超市集团,华夏乃至亚洲最大的零售企业,你在里面也有股份对吧？” „A little, but so far, I have not obtained one point of profit, when can gain, but also does not know.” “有一点,不过到目前为止,我没有得到一分利润,什么时候能盈利,还真不知道啊。” „Then that drugs manufacture Corporation? Probably the nutrition drugs of that Corporation production, sell unusual is good, at present the scale, is ranks among the best in your China?” “那么那家制药公司呢？好像那家公司生产的营养药品,卖的非常不错啊,目前规模,在你们华夏是数一数二的吧？” „Scale is not small, is many small pharmaceutical factories merges, is in the period of expansion, was right, we have new medicine Bigman, last year just entered the US many hospitals.” “规模是不小,是多个小药厂合并的,目前还处于发展期,对了,我们有一款新药Bigman,去年刚刚进入米国多家医院。” Bigman is the Powerful Little Brother English name, is Feng Yu speaks thoughtlessly to take. The other product not anything particularities of Bing City drugs manufacture, only then this medicine, that had the representation. Because applied for the patent, ten thousand of Pfizer like to be possible the patented claim was rejected, they must readjust the formula, can go on the market once more, but affirmation influence, was inferior to the previous generation. Bigman就是威哥的英文名字,也是冯宇随口取的。冰城制药的其他产品没什么特殊性,只有这款药,那太有代表性了。并且因为申请了专利,辉瑞的万爱可的专利申请被驳回了,他们要重新调整配方,才能再次上市,不过肯定影响力,也远不如前世了。 Bill? Gates's brow wrinkle is deeper, industrial unexpectedly these many of this Feng Yu investment, moreover is so successful, least is China is biggest, even many are Asia is biggest, how does he achieve? 比尔?盖茨的眉头越皱越深,这冯宇投资的产业竟然这么多,而且全都这么成功,最少是华夏最大,甚至好多都是亚洲最大,他到底是如何做到的？ In Bill? In Gates's impression, Feng Yu very much has the idea, has an investment approach person very much, now looks like, cannot say that has the investment approach very much, it can be said that invests the rare talent simply. 在比尔?盖茨的印象中,冯宇只是很有想法,很有投资眼光的一个人,现在看来,不能说是很有投资眼光,简直可以说是投资奇才啊。 This each investment, can bring not the poor profit to Feng Yu. Moreover these Company common grounds, that is all has not gone on the market. 这每一笔投资,都能给冯宇带来不菲的利润。而且那些企业还有一个共同点,那就是全部都没上市。 Once these Company went on the market, property turns 2-3 times easily! 一旦那些企业上市了,资产翻个两三倍轻而易举啊！ Steve starts to give the Feng Yu computation: „Hong Kong Wind & Rain Consultation profit 100 five One billion US dollars, Microsoft stock value 10 billion US dollars, Lenovo stock estimate value 300 million US dollars, Wind & Rain Electronics and Wind & Rain Appliances estimate value One billion US dollar, Bing City Machinery Corporation stock estimate value 500 million US dollars, estimate value 500 million US dollars of Wahaha stock, Taihua Supermarket Group stock estimate value 300 million US dollars, Bing City drugs manufacture Corporation stock estimate value 200 million US dollars, surplus Empire State Building invested, I give Mr. Feng estimate value 200 million US dollars. This time Forbes rich and powerful people rankings, I list as second you, net worth 200 eight One billion US dollars, Ok?” 史蒂夫开始给冯宇计算:“香江的风雨咨询利润100五十亿美元,微软的股票价值10000000000美元,连想的股份估值300000000美元,风雨电子和风雨电器等的估值十亿美元,冰城机械公司的股份估值500000000美元,乐哈哈股份的估值500000000美元,泰华超市集团的股份估值300000000美元,冰城制药公司股份估值200000000美元,剩余的帝国大厦等投资,我给冯先生估值200000000美元。这一次的福布斯富豪排行榜,我把你列为第二名,身家200八十亿美元,可以吗？” Sometimes estimated others' net worth high, the opposite party was not happy, but sometimes, lowered others' net worth estimate, the opposite party was not happy. Many rich and powerful people this rank, regard an honor. 有时候把别人的身家估高了,对方不高兴,但有时候,把别人的身家估算低了,对方也不高兴。很多富豪将这种排名,当成一种荣誉。 Especially this type depends on guess, Steve Forbes must solicit the suggestions of Feng Yu. 尤其是这种很多都靠猜测的,史蒂夫?福布斯一定要征求冯宇的意见。 Feng Yu has smiled, the heart said that you have not estimated me in the investment of Russia and Japan, the investments of some stocks you have not calculated, if makes you know, perhaps this year the position of rich and powerful people first place, whose not necessarily is! 冯宇笑了,心说你还没估算我在俄罗斯和岛国的投资呢,还有一些股票的投资你也没算,如果都让你知道,恐怕今年富豪榜首的位置,就不一定是谁的了！ Second also good, temporarily hides one's incompetence by remaining silent, the propaganda to his Corporation was also enough. Has waited for two years, his real net worth completely exposes, can definitely be startled the eyeballs of all people! 第二也不错,暂时藏拙,对他公司的宣传也足够了。等过两年,他的真实身家完全暴露出来,必然会惊掉所有人的眼球！ ...... ……
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