EG :: Volume #8

#721: Social security work

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Secretary Xu is just about to see a visitor out, Feng Yu asked suddenly: „Regarding the social security, how you to see?” 许书~记正要送客的时候,冯宇忽然问道:“对于社会保险,你们怎么看？” Some Secretary Xu doubts, did Feng Yu suddenly talk about this with him? Zhang Ruiqiang also wonders looks at Feng Yu, this is Feng Yu wants to shift the topic, avoids awkwardly? 许书~记有些疑惑,冯宇怎么忽然跟他谈到了这个？张瑞强也纳闷儿的看着冯宇,这是冯宇想转移话题,避免尴尬？ Zhang Ruiqiang cannot certainly make Secretary Xu answer this issue, therefore opens the mouth saying: „Social security, simply speaking is not the retirement pension system, before our country was the Company insurance system, was Company undertakes the retired wages of retirees, this will have 20-30 staff to raise a matter occurrence of retirees . Moreover the proportion gradually was increasing, the person who because retired were getting more and more. Asked everybody to search to look most entire! Person who the novel moreover does not have Company, faces the situation that old must also work, this learned from the developed country, introduced the social insurance system, was one resources redistribution system.” 张瑞强当然不能让许书~记来回答这个问题,于是开口道:“社会保险,简单来说不就是退休金制度么,以前我们国家是企业保险制度,也就是企业来承担退休人员的退休工资,这样就会有二三十个职工养一个退休人员的事情发生,而且比例在逐渐增加,因为退休的人越来越多。请大家搜索看最全！的小说而且很多没有企业的人,则面临着老了还要工作的情况,这才向发达国家学习,引入了社会保险制度,也算是一种资源再分配制度。” Secretary Xu looks at Feng Yu, is very good, he who Zhang Ruiqiang said wants to listen, Feng Yu has any respected opinion to this matter. 许书~记看着冯宇,张瑞强说的很好,他想听听,冯宇对这件事有什么高见。 „Mayor Zhang said is very simple, but there are to think, wants to implement this policy, how many years needs? Now our country is forces the Company and other employers to for the staff pay the social security, but the effect how, are you clearer than me?” “张市~长说的很简单,但有没有想过,想要推行这个政策,到底要多少年？现在我们国家是强制企业等用人单位必须为员工缴纳社会保险,但效果如何,你们比我更清楚？” „You want to say anything, do not keep guessing!” Zhang Ruiqiang some were not happy that this Feng Yu, to this time, liked showing off his knowledge. Moreover he to this policy, research is not specially thorough, even central person, too did not understand that this matter, can only say that is „feels the stone to cross river”! “你想说什么,别卖关子！”张瑞强有些不高兴,这冯宇,一到这时候,就喜欢炫耀他的知识。而且他对这个政策,研究的也不是特别透彻,甚至中央的人,也都不太了解这件事,只能说是“摸着石头过河”！ „I dare saying that this policy, to you retire the time, is unable to carry out completely successfully!” “我敢说,这项政策,一直到你们都退休的时候,也无法完全推行成功！” „What did you say? you must be joking! Is the national policy, for a long time impossible to succeed?” Zhang Ruiqiang is somewhat disgruntled, particularly Feng Yu mentioned the retirement, he feared that stimulates Secretary Xu. Moreover he retires also ten years, Feng Yu can determine that this policy can't carry out successfully? “你说什么？开什么玩笑！国家政策,那么长时间还不可能成功？”张瑞强有些不悦,尤其是冯宇提到了退休,他怕刺激到许书~记。而且他退休也还有十来年呢,冯宇怎么就敢确定这政策不能推行成功？ Feng Yu smiled: „Did the family planning policy, carry out successfully? Did all people observe?” 冯宇笑了笑:“计划生育政策,推行成功了？所有人都遵守了吗？” Secretary Xu wants to open the mouth to refute Feng Yu two, you are not government employee/civil servant. How also to be in front of his, criticized the national policy? 许书~记本想开口反驳冯宇两句的,你又不是公务猿。怎么还当着他的面,批评上国家政策了？ But Feng Yu points out example of birth control, he did not have the means to refute. 可冯宇举出计划生育的例子,他也没办法反驳了。 71 years proposed suggested that 80 years started to propagandize. And among d, are altogether blue ~ the members starts to advocate that is actually method/trick that one -and-a-half types force, 82 years as the basic state policies, are written into the constitution, until now had implemented for several years. But the result, the children of some massive excess birth, cannot others have the child every year, do you give to choke to death? 71年提出并建议,80年开始宣传。并在d员、共青~团员之间开始提倡,其实就是一种半强制的手段,82年作为基本国策,写入宪法,到如今已经实施了十几年。可结果呢,每年还是有大量超生的孩子,总不能人家生下来孩子,你给掐死？ In the rural area, the population is labor force, in the city implements actually also good, but rural area, even if 91 years of time intensifies the effort once more, but cannot provide lodging. 在农村,人口就是劳动力,城里实施的倒是还不错,但农村地区,哪怕是91年的时候再次加大力度,但还是管不住。 Is written into the constitution basic state policies, passed through such a long time. The joint efforts of these many people, cannot implement thoroughly successfully, do not say that social insurance system, has not been written into the constitution . Moreover the effort is not big. 一个写入宪法的基本国策,经过了这么长时间。这么多人的共同努力,还是没能彻底实施成功,更不要说社会保险制度,还未写入宪法呢,而且力度也没有那么大。 A main point is, the social security wants Company to make a payment with individual together, first many workers opposed. Why can their wages little together? Before these had not handed over the social security, wasn't same retires? Company and can factory also not raise them? They have offered the most lifetime! 最主要的一点就是,社会保险要企业跟个人一起交钱,首先很多工人就反对。凭什么他们工资要少一块儿？以前那些没交社会保险的,还不是一样退休了？难道企业、工厂还能不养着他们？他们可是奉献了大半辈子！ The workers request, the Company sum total undertakes the social security, but Company also does not have this ability. This is not a small number, the expense that especially must make up is uneven quickly retires the person who should pay, this lets some benefit not good Company, laid cards on the table with Government leadership directly. This money, we cannot hand over, has handed over, Company on yellow, that all workers do not have the food to eat! 工人们要求,企业全额承担社会保险,可企业又没有这个能力。这可不是一笔小数目,尤其还要补齐一些快退休的人应缴纳的费用,这让一些效益不好的企业,直接就跟政~府领导摊牌了。这个钱,我们交不起,交了,企业就黄了,那所有工人都没饭吃！ „If wants the social insurance system to carry out a successful, first point. Is the Company insurance with social security and axle, but how and axle, actually very difficult assurance criterion. The person of receive were too many, money that Government collects is insufficient. Were the person of receive too few? Company is not willing to pay the social security.” “要想社会保险制度推行成功,首先的一点。就是企业保险跟社会保险并轨,但如何并轨,却很难把握尺度。接收的人太多了,政~府收上来的钱不够用。接收的人太少了？企业不愿意缴纳社会保险。” The way of social security payment has several types externally, what is quite common is the proportionate payment insurance premium system and equal payment insurance premium system. 社会保险在国外缴纳的方式有几种,比较常见的是按比例缴纳保险费制度和均等缴纳保险费制度。 But these two systems, is most mainstream, has the merit, has the shortcoming. But now what China carries out is the proportionate payment insurance premium system, before the Feng Yu rebirth, this system has not changed. 而这两种制度,也是最为主流的,都有优点,也都有缺点。而华夏现在推行的是按比例缴纳保险费制度,一直到冯宇重生前,这个制度都没有改变过。 And axle? Zhang Ruiqiang looks at each other one with Secretary Xu, if this and axle, but is really a big difficult problem, such that but said on such as Feng Yu, if not and axle, then this system is very difficult to carry out, Company must bear the retirement pension of retirees, as well as to pay the social security, the fund pressure was too big. 并轨？张瑞强跟许书~记对视一眼,这要是并轨了,可真是一个大难题啊,可就如冯宇说的那样,如果不并轨,那么这项制度就很难推行,企业既要负担退休人员的退休金,又要缴纳社保,资金压力太大了。 Secretary Xu looks to Feng Yu: „Does Bing City Machinery Corporation, how pay the social security?” 许书~记看向冯宇:“冰城机械公司,是怎么缴纳社会保险的？” „Our Corporation donates with staff both sides together, this is not the country advocates?” This advocates now, has not forced to implement completely, because the country is also in doubt, the manner of workers. “我们公司跟职工双方一起供款,这不是国家倡导的吗？”这一条现在只是倡导,还未完全强制实施,因为国家也拿不准,工人们的态度。 „Did these workers agree?” Secretary Xu curious asking, he listened to the following person saying that many Company staff therefore did cause trouble? Some strike protests, have ~ interview with, did not agree in any case. “难道那些工人就同意了？”许书~记好奇的问,他怎么听下面人说,好多企业的职工都因此闹事了呢？有罢工抗议的,有上~访的,反正就是不同意。 „Simple, to worker rising wages. Let their one month of junction more than 40 dollars, but my one month rises 100 wages to them, how won't some people be satisfactory? Big end of Company undertook, told clearly them, everybody can understand.” Feng Yu „this also uses to ask, you so are how stupid” expression. “多简单啊,给工人涨工资呗。让他们一个月交40多块钱,但我一个月给他们涨100块的工资,怎么会有人不满意呢？大头还是企业承担了嘛,跟他们讲清楚,大家都能理解的。”冯宇一副“这还用问,你们咋这么笨”的表情。 Secretary Xu is somewhat speechless, which Company you worked as to be the same with your Bing City Machinery Corporation, said that one month rose 100 wages to the worker, can rise? What lecture of clarity, everybody has understood, are the rising wages the primary cause are good? 许书~记有些无语,你当哪个企业都跟你们冰城机械公司一样,说给工人一个月涨100块工资,就能涨的起呢？什么讲清楚,大家就理解了,涨工资才是主要原因好不好？ The workers most care, was the money of succeeding in obtaining are many! 工人最在乎的,就是到手的钱多了！ Secretary Xu also secretly sucks the tongue, this Bing City Machinery Corporation, but is really rich, the wages early comprehensively have led the nation, did this rise 100? Can their Corporation eighth-grade worker, attain over a thousand monthly salaries? Last year the Bing City year average wages, 5000 over, this year can this over 6000? 许书~记也暗暗咂舌,这冰城机械公司,可真是有钱啊,工资早已经全面领先全国了,这又涨了100块？那他们公司的八级工,岂不是能拿到上千的月薪了？去年冰城的年平均工资,才5000块出头啊,今年这要超过6000了？ „Means that Feng Yu, you said that simply promotion, where other can't Company give the worker to rise all of a sudden that many wages?” Zhang Ruiqiang knits the brows to say. “冯宇,你说的办法,根本没有可推广性,别的企业哪儿能一下子给工人涨那么多工资？”张瑞强皱眉说道。 „That must rise, last year the inflation, the wages of worker did not rise, this year was the economic situation much better, why the wages compared with last year cannot rise? Gave Government to treat as the tax revenue, Government can undertake worker's social security?” Feng Yu asked. “那也要涨啊,去年通货膨胀,工人的工资不都涨了很多么,今年经济形势比去年要好很多,为什么工资就不能涨？难道都交给政~府当做税收,政~府就能承担工人的社会保险了？”冯宇反问道。 The rising wages, meaning this Company cost rises, the profit drops, the tax revenue that then needs to pay, naturally must reduce, this will make the Government governable money tail off. 涨工资,就意味这企业成本上升,利润下降,那么所需要缴纳的税收,自然也要降低,这会让政~府可支配的钱变少。 But if not rising wages, then this social security policy, is hard to be implemented. Feng Yu even believes that in the middle of the last year, national tax and land tax separated officially, with this related. Seemed like the place governable tax revenue increased, the responsibility that but in fact, needs to shoulder were also more, this was a double-edged sword. 可如果不涨工资,那么这项社会保险政策,就难以实施。冯宇甚至认为,去年年中,国税和地税正式分开,也是跟这个有关。看似地方可支配的税收增多了,但实际上,需要承担的责任也就更多了,这算是一把双刃剑。 Secretary Xu was lost in thought with Zhang Ruiqiang, yes, how should choose? 许书~记跟张瑞强都陷入了沉思,是啊,该如何选择呢？ ......) ……) ps: Before down, recommends ticket 43,300 in addition, the front two chapters, have not leaked. The fourth child is still very diligent ~ ps:第五更,推荐票43300加更,前面还有两章,别漏了。老四依然很勤奋~ : / 31 / 31499 / :/31/31499/
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