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#1969: Avoids taxes( asked to subscribe asks ticket)

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Kirilenko big matter that returns to homeland participation to make him beam with joy, Feng Yu accompanied by Ralph, inspected him in the industry of North America. 基里连科回国去参加让他露脸的大事儿了,冯宇则在拉尔夫的陪同下,去视察了一圈他在北美的产业。 Recently Ralph and Kameido Masao have mentioned a matter with Feng Yu, that is Amazon and face book, Google and MGM small steelyard Corporation idea, Cayman Islands established whole family Corporation in „avoiding taxes heaven”, then the profit anything's shift in the past, can avoid taxes reasonably. 最近拉尔夫和龟田正雄都跟冯宇提过一件事,那就是亚马孙、脸书、古歌、美高梅等子公司都有一个想法,在“避税天堂”开曼群岛成立一家子公司,然后将利润什么的转移过去,就可以合理的避税了。 The scale and influence that because they involve are big, therefore is unable the Corporation headquarters migration in the past. Transnational big Corporation, such does. 他们因为涉及的规模和影响较大,所以无法将公司总部迁移过去。许多跨国大公司,都这么做。 For example Wind & Rain Holding Company, does not register here. 比如风雨控股,不就注册在这儿么。 Amazon , etc. had calculated, such every year can little pay several hundred million US dollars taxes, will be more in the future. Microsoft, Coca Cola and other Corporation such do. 亚马孙等计算了一下,这样每年可以少交几个亿美元的税,甚至未来会更多。微软、可口可乐等公司都是这么做的。 Since these Corporation, they why not? Especially they in child Corporation of overseas, can definitely be included within under Cayman Islands this family Corporation name, this can also avoid taxes externally reasonably. 既然那些公司可以,他们为什么不可以？尤其是他们在海外的子公司,完全可以划入到开曼群岛这家子公司名下,这样在国外也可以合理避税了。 Each country is different regarding the Company tax revenue, particularly the state-owned enterprise and privately operated Company have the disparity with the tax revenue of foreign enterprises, the personal income is also same. 每个国家对于企业的税收都是不同的,尤其是国企、民营企业和外企的税收都有差距,个人收入也是一样。 Cites a simple example, Pierce and Dayao of Wind & Rain team, their tax payment proportions completely are different. Because Pierce is an American, the US public good that enjoys are more, therefore the tax payment quota must be higher. 举个简单的例子,风雨队的皮尔斯和大姚,他们的纳税比例就完全不同。因为皮尔斯是米国人,享受的米国公共福利更多,所以纳税额度就要更高。 Dayao is the China person, in the US is only the work, but must give that side China to pay taxes, therefore here tax is quite low. 大姚是华夏人,在米国只是工作而已,还要给华夏那边纳税,所以这边的税就比较低。 Among Company is also same, foreign enterprises definitely cannot be the same with our Company tax payment quota, otherwise they pay the dual tax revenues, but also guarantees the profit? 企业之间也是一样,外企肯定不能跟本国企业纳税额度一样,否则他们缴纳双重税收,还怎么保证利润？ Does not have money Zhuan, silly x goes to your to open Corporation. 没钱赚,傻x才去你那开公司呢。 If Amazon is not listing Company, then operates to be simpler, the finance does not need to publicize, many accounts are quite good to operate. 如果亚马孙不是上市企业,那么操作起来要简单许多,财务不需要公开,许多账目都比较好操作。 But they are listing Corporation, these operated quite to be troublesome. 但他们是上市公司,这些操作起来就比较麻烦了。 They hope that can draw support from the parent company Wind & Rain Holding Company channel , helping their reasonable avoiding taxes. Such Corporation net profit(s) Run in disguised form has promoted, each shareholder can divide the money of arriving at to be also more. 他们希望能够借助母公司风雨控股的渠道,帮助他们合理的避税。这样公司纯利润就变相的提升了,每个股东能够分到的钱也会更多。 Feng Yu remembered previous generation means forbidding by the US, particularly listing Corporation, this can clear. 冯宇记得前世这种办法被米国这边给禁止了,尤其是上市公司,这个还是能够清晰的查出来。 Not only in the US, in Britain and other countries, will have this class matter. 不只是在米国,在英国等多个国家,都会发生这类的事情。 For example previous generation face book in child Corporation yearly income one hundred million pounds of Britain, but arrives in Cayman Islands after the transfer profit, the tax amount that face book Corporation pays is only several thousand pounds. Right, is several thousand pounds, but the tax money that a British yearly income 26,000 pounds individual, pays compares this to be higher. 比如前世脸书在英国的子公司年收入一个多亿英镑,但是经过转移利润到开曼群岛后,脸书公司所缴纳的税额只有几千英镑。没错,就是几千英镑,而英国一个年收入26000英镑的个人,所缴纳的税款都比这个更高。 On for example Microsoft, plays this in China, afterward was not discovered that then made additional payment the tax money not saying that but must include the fine of fine for delayed payment and high quota. 就比如微软,在华夏也玩这一手,后来不是被发现了,然后补交了税款不说,还要包括滞纳金和高额的罚款。 Reasons for this include, is this tax system has the loophole, you drilled, had not been discovered that that is all right. If had been discovered that amount are few, it is estimated that is also all right, for a money, does not need laboriously audits anything. 究其原因,就是这个税收方式有漏洞,你钻了,没被人发现,那就没事儿。要是被人发现了,数额少,估计也没事儿,为了一点钱,没必要辛辛苦苦的查账什么的。 But if the amount is big, that has been worth, for example Microsoft and Coca Cola frequently audited, who lets them is the large taxpayer? 但是如果数额大,那就值得了,比如微软、可口可乐就经常被查账,谁让他们是纳税大户呢？ Amazon and Google also grow for the large taxpayer, is listing Company, to operate, that may be too difficult. 亚马孙、古歌也成长为了纳税大户,还是上市企业,要想操作,那可太难了。 Feng Yu this time also comes to see, how they want to operate. Said simply, does to be possible not to be easy. 冯宇这次也是来看看,他们到底想要怎么操作。说起来简单,做起来可就不容易了。 Bezos introduced to Feng Yu his plan, this is the way that the Corporation CFO finds to come out, before this has worked in Coca Cola. 贝佐斯给冯宇介绍了一番他的计划,这是公司的首席财务官想出来的办法,之前这位在可口可乐工作过。 However this means that Coca Cola use and differs from. 但是这个办法,可口可乐使用的又有所不同。 Because Amazon is not only retail Company, can be cultural Company, what is most important, they are internet/network science and technology Company. 因为亚马孙不但算是零售企业,也能算是文化企业,但最重要的是,他们算是网络科技企业。 Amazon also has many patents, for example the cloud computing, Amazon is the world is best at present. 亚马孙也拥有许多专利,比如目前云技术,亚马孙是全世界最好的。 Some big data analyses, is valuable. 还有一些大数据分析,也非常有价值。 The Amazon main consideration, is the shift fixed price of intangible asset. 亚马孙主要考虑的,就是无形资产的转移定价。 Intangible asset that Amazon must transfer, is not trademark anything, that cannot transfer, what they must shift is the patented technology, the intellectual property, the trade secret wait / etc.. 亚马孙所要转移的无形资产,不是商标什么的,那个转不走,他们要转移的是专利技术、知识产权、贸易机密等等。 Because these invisible, therefore is very difficult to fix a price. 这些因为都是无形的,所以很难定价。 They very simple through low price authorization or outright sale, lets child Corporation or is connected Company to obtain some technologies or the intellectual properties, then child Corporation is authorized to other Corporation use profits. 他们很简单的通过低价授权或者卖断,让子公司或者关联企业获得一些技术或者知识产权,然后子公司在授权给其他公司使用获利。 This developed Corporation of technology not to have that high profit, but child Corporation or is connected Company to obtain belonged to develop these technologies the profits of Corporation, but they in Cayman Islands, can little pay many taxes, not only this retained the high profit, but also little paid taxes, and is legitimate, although as we all know, in this definitely has the trick. 这样原本开发出技术的公司就没有那么高的利润了,而子公司或者关联企业则可以获得原本属于开发这些技术的公司的利润,但是他们在开曼群岛,可以少交许多税,这样就不但保留了高利润,还少交了税,并且还是合法的,虽然大家都知道,这里面肯定有猫腻。 Why this many big Corporation has also raised many attorneys, for not only and between other partners the possible issue brought a lawsuit, but can also avoid taxes anything's doing legal support for these, showed that my these were the legitimate trades, did not evade taxes. 这也是为什么许多大公司养了许多律师,不只是为了跟其他合作伙伴之间可能发生的问题打官司,还可以为这些避税什么的做法律支持,证明我这些是合法的贸易,不是逃税。 Simple means that that is Amazon, Google and other Company did not have the R &\; D center, the technical research and development is they disburses one of the maximum projects. 还有一个简单的办法,那就是亚马孙、古歌等企业不都是有研发中心么,技术研发是他们支出最大的项目之一。 Places these Company income tax rate high areas these R &\; D centers, the Company profit of such this area reduced because of the high quota disbursement of technical research and development, the obtained tax amount that then needs to pay naturally also reduced. 将这些研发中心放在那些企业所得税率较高的地区,这样该地区的企业利润就因为技术研发的高额支出而降低了,那么需要交纳的所得税额自然也就降低了。 In the earning and disbursement invariable situation, has little paid taxes, net profit(s) Run was also naturally high. 在营收和支出不变的情况下,少交税了,纯利润自然也就高了。 However various countries are improving these legal provisions now, once were looked up, same needs to pay and submit the tax money. Little pays taxes to the US, Feng Yu was certainly glad, he is not an American. 不过各国现在都在完善这些法律条款,一旦被查出来,一样需要补缴税款。少给米国交税,冯宇当然乐意了,他又不是米国人。 However he they have also talked clearly with Bezos, these are avoiding taxes method/trick, you operate, must achieve the rationality, such future will look up, will only need the making additional payment tax money and interest, but will not face the fine of high quota. 不过他也跟贝佐斯他们说清楚了,这些都是避税的手段,你们操作的时候,一定要做到合理性,这样将来查出来,也只需要补交税款和利息,而不会面临高额的罚款。 Every so often, the fine are possibly more than tax money that you need to make additional payment. 很多时候,罚款可能比你需要补交的税款还要多。 Bezos they heard Feng Yu to agree, immediately arranged the person to implement. Ralph has also informed Google Corporation , etc., how should operate how to operate, Boss complied. 贝佐斯他们听到冯宇同意了,马上安排人去实行。拉尔夫也通知了古歌公司等,该怎么操作就怎么操作吧,老板答应了。 Bezos they to enhance profit, many cents of money, but Feng Yu did not care that many cents of how much money, he does not want Government to pay taxes to the US purely. 贝佐斯他们是为了提高利润,多分钱,而冯宇并不关心多分多少钱,他纯粹就是不想给米国政斧多交税。 Feng Yu in China these Company, does not consider these. How should pay taxes on the junction, tax increases does not matter, Feng Yu is not short of money in any case, other shareholder nobody will also oppose the decision of Feng Yu. 冯宇在华夏的那些企业,根本不考虑这些。该怎么交税就交,税收高也无所谓,反正冯宇不差钱,其他股东也没人会反对冯宇的决定。 After circling one returned to New York, Boss Bloomberg of New York Times arrived at Feng Yu office/bureau, discussed big matter about media sector. 绕了一圈又回到纽约后,纽约时报的老板布隆伯格来到了冯宇的办公室,谈一件关于媒体行业的大事儿。 ...... ……
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