EG :: Volume #18

#1706: The allocation might as well invest


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Large-scale Company of country, must guarantee that every year drawing bonus of high quota, delivers the profit to give the country. What to do then the fund insufficiently is used to develop, puts up shares the listing. 国家的大型企业,每年必须保证高额的分红,上交利润给国家。然后资金不够用来发展怎么办,募股上市。 In other words can be very good to develop, but they have divvied up money, elsewhere money Na who divvies up is going to invest, finally gains might as well here many, what didn't this owe is? 也就是说本来可以很好发展的,但是他们把钱分掉了,分掉的钱拿着去别处投资,结果赚的还不如这边多,这不是亏了是什么? This is equal to them forms a partnership to do business, the exchange stock, others' Corporation does not make money finally, your Corporation can actually make money very much, then others gained a big pen to walk, you only have actually gained little, did this type exchange cost-effective/worthwhile? 这就相当于两人合伙做生意,互换股份,结果别人的公司不怎么赚钱,你的公司却能很赚钱,然后人家赚了一大笔走了,你却只赚了一点点,这种互换划算吗? Feng Yu, is not right, that you said is not right. The economic development of place, the foundation livelihood of the people construction, always asks for money right. In us ~ Yang himself is plans the plan, a guarantee place better development. What various countries collect taxes and allocate funds, isn't this? Did everybody make a mistake?” Zhang Ruiqiang shakes the head, thought that Feng Yu these are the quibbles. 冯宇,不对,你说的这个不对。地方的经济发展,基础民生建设,总是要钱的对吧。我们中~央本身就是统筹计划,保证地方更好的发展。各国收税、拨款什么的,不都是这样吗?难道说大家都错了?”张瑞强晃晃脑袋,觉得冯宇那些都是歪理。 Then I asked you, a while ago did we from these car(riage) Company service of overseas purchase, what to do you plan? Merges into under some capital car(riage) business directly, then every year forces the opposite party to deliver certain profit is right?” “那么我问你,前段时间我们从国外收购的那些车企业务,你们打算怎么办?直接并入到一些国资车企下面,然后每年强迫对方上交一定的利润对吧?” Why knows the car(riage) business development of national capital compared with the Bing City Machinery manufacture group? Because they technically invest, was inferior many that we invest. But they seem like draw bonus every year much, but has a look at the ability that the development of Corporation and makes money truly, you said that which Company makes money?” “知道为什么国资的车企发展比不过冰城机械制造集团吗?因为他们在技术上的投资,远不如我们投入的多。而他们看似每年分红不少,但是看看公司的发展和真正赚钱的能力,你说哪个企业更加赚钱?” Why must allocate funds to these Company, then compulsion makes them deliver certain profit, why can't the direct investment?” “为什么一定要拨款给那些企业,然后强制让他们上交一定的利润,为什么不能直接投资?” Direct investment? Zhang Ruiqiang is bewildered, what meaning? 直接投资?张瑞强一脸茫然,什么意思? Feng Yu continues to explain: You looked that the national capital purchases these services the money, moves ~ pension fund what that uses right? Then makes them deliver the profit in full, is filling in this account. Why then this property, does not calculate that directly becomes is the fund investment of pension?” 冯宇继续解释道:“你看啊,国资购买这些业务的钱,是挪~用的养老金基金什么的对吧?然后让他们按数上交利润,将这个账在填上。那么为什么不把这笔资产,直接算成是养老金的基金投资呢?” „The Company development should walk benign development the path, can deliver many profits, does not visit you to want many, but looks at this Corporation after the most reasonable investment, can remaining many.” 企业发展应该走良性发展的道路,能上交多少利润,不是看你要多少,而是看这家公司刨去最合理的投入后,能剩下多少。” I asked you, if the fund of pension invested the Bing City Machinery manufacture group, whether some people will oppose? Invests the Lenovo group, whether some people will oppose? Invests the Wahaha group, who will oppose?” “我问你,如果养老金的基金投资冰城机械制造集团,是否有人会反对?投资连想集团,是否有人会反对?或者投资乐哈哈集团,谁会反对?” After its allocation forces to deliver the profit, why non- direct investment? These investments are appreciating every year, there is good drawing bonus, isn't this good?” “与其拨款后强制上交利润,为什么不直接投资呢?这些投资每年都在升值,也有不错的分红,这样不好吗?” Zhang Ruiqiang said scruple: But was the investment Corporation cash of such national capital short?” 张瑞强迟疑道:“可是这样国资的投资公司现金就少了啊?” What invests the Corporation goal is? Makes money right? Then this type high-quality invests you not to do, instead is draws cash to make some general investments, is this correct choice?” “投资公司的目的是什么?赚钱对吧?那么这种优质投资你不做,反而是拿着钱做一些一般的投资,这就是正确的选择?” Who said that investment domestic Company, certainly is wrong? Let domestic Company walk, different can make the money of foreigner?” “有谁说投资国内的企业,就一定是错的?让国内的企业走出去,不一样能够赚外国人的钱?” You have a look at my these Corporation, bases the home, but which wasn't develops the overseas now? You have a look at these overseas Corporation again, which does not manage own supreme headquarters first, is thinking then expands outward?” “你看看我的那些公司,立足国内,但现在哪一个不是发展到国外了?你再看看那些国外的公司,哪一个不是先经营好自己的大本营,然后再想着向外扩张?” You take the money to go to the investments abroad like this, in my opinion looks like anything, carries one bag of cashes to go shopping like a child, although others know that snatches is violates the law, however legitimate dupe/sway you spend, same can load own pocket this bag of money.” “你们这样拿着一大笔钱去国外投资,在我看来像什么,就像一个小孩子拎着一袋现金去买东西一样,虽然别人知道抢是犯法的,但是合法的忽悠你消费,一样能将这袋钱装入自己的口袋。” Now many people believe that does not draw cash to invest, probably cannot make the money of overseas person to be the same, exits does not make the overseas money? 现在许多人认为,不拿钱出去投资,好像就不能赚国外人的钱一样,难道出口不是赚国外的钱? You wholeheartedly are only thinking draws cash to invest to make money, actually neglected oneself family|home to be made more money, wasn't this puts the cart before the horse? 你一心只想着拿钱出去投资赚钱,却忽略了自己家被人赚走了更多的钱,这不是本末倒置吗? This, you said probably a little truth, but also has anything not to be right. My present brain is somewhat chaotic, you and others I turned head to think to say well again.” “这个,你说的好像有点道理,但是又有什么不对。我现在脑子有些乱,你等我回头好好想想再说。” Feng Yu how many words, above some strategies will give otherwise, cannot say the strategy that the above that many people study is wrong? 冯宇几句话,将上头的一些战略就给否了,总不能说上头那么多人研究出来的战略都是错的吧? Feng Yu naturally also clear, this foreign investment, is certain need, can sometimes realize some governance intentions, this can get the huge economic interest similarly. 冯宇当然也清楚,这种对外投资,是一定需要的,有时候可以实现一些政~治意图,这个同样能获得巨大的经济利益。 On for example aids the investment of Africa, very obvious this cannot make money from the local area, but can receive in exchange for some African countries in association ~ about some voting of country's, supports China, making China get more interests in other aspects. 就比如一些援助非洲的投资,很明显这是不能从当地赚到钱的,但是能换取一些非洲国家在联~合国的一些投票上,支持华夏,让华夏在其他方面获得更多的利益。 However the investment must have the choice, has main road that is better, why can take the rugged mountain road? 但是投资也要有选择的,有更加好走的大路,为什么要走崎岖的山路? You turn head to think well, our country pension and other every year is rising, this is the national economy gets better, one repayment to people, is strengthens the people's cohesive force and other effective ways.” “你回头好好想想吧,咱们国家的养老金等每年都在上涨,这是国家经济变得更好,对人民的一种回报,也是增强人民凝聚力等有效的方式。” You thought that depends on your investment patterns, the money, is quicker than the speed of pension rise? Now our country has many only children, after two only children marry, regenerates a child, that is the couple must support four old person and a child.” “你觉得就靠你们那种投资方式,赚回来的钱,比养老金上涨的速度快吗?现在咱们国家有多少独生子女,两个独生子女结婚之后,再生一个孩子,那就是两口子要养活四个老人和一个孩子。” You said that the old person currently has retirement pension or pension, right, then you discovered that an issue does not have, payment pension, only then this couple, but receives the pension actually four old people, in other words, what draws money is population one time of payment is right?” “你说老人现在有退休金或者养老金啊,没错,那么你发现一个问题没有,缴纳养老金的只有这两口子,但是领养老金的却有四个老人,也就是说,领钱的是交钱的人数一倍对不对?” Thinks initially these soe reforms time, has the similar issue? The Company retirees are too much, the pension burden is oversized, finally burnt out Company.” “想想当初那些国企改制的时候,是否有差不多的问题?企业退休人员过多,养老金负担过大,最终将企业拖垮了。” „Is that situation, very similar to the present situation? Our country aging is getting more and more serious, along with the medical service, health and other technology of enhancements, then the life of people are getting more and more long, therefore receives the pension the time to be also getting more and more long, this burden, will be getting more and more heavy.” “那种情况,跟现在的情况是否有很相似?我们国家老龄化越来越严重,随着医疗、卫生等技术的提高,那么人们的寿命越来越长,所以领养老金的时间也就越来越长,这个负担,会越来越重。” When the disbursement exceeds the income, you what to do?” “当支出超过收入的时候,你们怎么办?” Initially was Company anything was responsible for oneself Company retirees, the present is the people's social security, money gives the country, then the country undertook the retirements of these people. 当初是企业什么的负责自己企业的退休人员,现在是全民社保,钱都交给国家,然后国家承担这些人的养老。 Company is very good to solve, then a country this does solve? This is the little money, can handle? At that time Company can the stop wages, stop issuing the retirement pension to get through the difficult time, can the country suspend the social security disbursements of these people? That will have the big trouble! 一个企业很好解决,那么一个国家该怎么解决?这是一点点的钱,就能搞定的吗?那时候企业可以停发工资,停发退休金渡过难关,难道国家能暂停这些人的社保支出?那会出现大乱子的! You said that the pension does not rise, but the price rose, these money Bugou have cared for the aged, can this be good? Let the person of going to work pay more pensions, then these people retire, you must give more pensions, this is a vicious circle. 你说养老金不上涨,但是物价上涨了,这些钱不够养老了,这样能行吗?让上班的人缴纳更多的养老金,那么这些人退休的时候,你就要给开更多的养老金,这是一种恶性循环。 The most direct means that are let these paid pension can gain to more money. Pension number that many that every month all the people deliver, so long as can invest reasonably, then can gain enough disbursement money. 最直接的办法,就是让这些被缴纳的养老金能够赚到更多的钱。每个月全民上交的养老金数目那么多,只要能够合理的投资,那么就能够赚回来足够支出的钱。 Closes right up against draws blood from Company, that is satisfies thirst by drinking poison, sooner or later, these Company destroying has not been possible. 靠着从企业抽血,那不过是饮鸩止渴罢了,早晚有一天,会将这些企业给弄垮了不可。 Therefore the pension cannot invest, must invest the business that some can make money!( To be continued.) 所以养老金等不能那么投资,必须要投资一些能够更加赚钱的生意!(未完待续。)
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