Chapter 471 recommended! Will law die? 第471章举荐！法将死？ Since Liu has gotten sick has succeeded to the throne, orders to solicit the best-qualified workers more than once, making the county country officials recommend in this county it extraordinarily talented and personal character honest talent. 自刘病已继位以来,不止一次下令招贤,令郡国官员举荐本郡本国之中才能出众和品德廉洁的人才。 „Also please walk!” “还请走吧！” High has the sound of disdaining to resound, a black face scholar said: „Kingdom pond little, does not dare to hold your like this evil talent.” 一道高高的带着不屑的声音响起,一个黑脸文士说道:“王国池小,不敢容纳你这样的邪才。” The young people clothing is somewhat disorderly, sends the silk to scatter at will, even also has some sullies, is very distressed, he full is the grief and indignation said: „Is this meaning of king? I do not believe, deciding is your evildoer, offers the slanderous talk.” 年轻人衣衫有些凌乱,发丝随意飘散,甚至还带着些许的脏污,很是狼狈,他满是悲愤道:“这是大王的意思吗？我不相信,定是你这奸人,在其中进献谗言。” The black face scholar sneers saying: „ Your this fool, what knowledge classics that you has a look at you govern, now this way of the world, who also dares to give shelter to you? 黑脸文士冷笑道:“你这蠢人,伱看看你治的什么学问经典,如今这世道,谁还敢收留你们？ Do not blame us, must blame to blame your Teacher worthy people of former times not to do good deeds to you. ” 不要怪我们,要怪就怪你的师长先贤不给你积德。” These words reminded the young people, he somewhat left here scared. 这番话点醒了年轻人,他有些失魂落魄的离开了这里。 ...... …… „Your scholar quota did not have, Xiaolian is not possible, getting to know each other well county defends with the feudal rulers is not willing to recommend.” “你的秀才名额没了,孝廉更是不可能,相熟的郡守和列侯都不愿意举荐。” „Why? A few years ago weren't these people on good terms with you?” “为何？前些年这些人不还与您交好吗？” „Because Sang Hongyang was boiled killed, because some people do not like us, because we become the chief criminal of disaster world.” “因为桑弘羊被烹杀了,因为有人不喜欢我们,因为我们成为了祸乱天下的罪魁祸首。” „Royal government under aim had not said that does not make us enter official, instead in the Han code has clearly stipulated, various want some people to serve as an official, the royal government does that to violate the Han code.” “朝廷并未下旨说不让我们入仕,反而汉律中有明确规定,各家都要有人做官,朝廷这么做违反汉律。” The royal government violates the Han code, this is the paradox. 朝廷违反汉律,这是悖论。 The regulation is the King is enacted, the law under the king, this is the legalist school objective. 律法是王者制定的,法在王下,这就是法家宗旨。 Now the king wants the law dead, the law has dead. 现在王要法死,法不得不死。 So-called a scheme that boomerangs, is so. 所谓作法自毙,便是如此。 The say/way of only resistance, then studies the Confucianist, first to king Guashang the wicked name, then crusades against him, looks like such that Jin difficulty the feudal lord makes. 唯一的反抗之道,便是学儒家,先给王挂上无道之名,然后讨伐他,就像是靖难诸侯所做的那样。 But such acknowledged the law was wrong under the king? 但那样岂不是承认法在王下错了？ Two people do not have to speak. 两人都没在说话。 ...... …… In gloomy room, kneels to sit several middle-aged person who a slightly obviously wears the scholar royal crown long gown, these people were the main leaders of present Three-Jin legalist school. 一间稍显暗淡的屋中,跪坐着数位身着文士冠冕袍服的中年人,这些人便是如今三晋法家的主要领袖。 „Your majesty requested the world the county country to recommend a virtuous upright, meek gate to obtain 70% respectively, other obtained 30%.” “陛下要求天下的郡国各举荐一位贤良方正,儒门得到了70%,其余诸家得到了30%。” „Our branch vein, does not have any county defends with feudal lord king willing recommends.” “我们这一支脉,没有任何一位郡守和诸侯王愿意举荐。” „The feudal rulers are not willing and others to lift the scholar for me similarly, even there is previous comes and goes out the scholars of general's office to be abolished.” “列侯同样不愿意为我等举秀才,甚至有先前出入幕府的士子被革除。” In the room the complexion of people somewhat is dreary, „the calamity of violent Qin, the calamity of offense emperor, world person putting the blame on to me on and others, for fear that evades it less.” 屋中众人的脸色都有些惨淡,“暴秦之祸,戾帝之祸,天下人将之归咎到了我等身上,唯恐避之不及。” Some people sighed: „ Offense emperor was exterminated by Jin difficulty the feudal lord, accompanies disaster various Chenhuo to be killed or exiled, only has Sang Hongyang to be boiled kills. 有人叹息道:“戾帝被靖难诸侯诛除,随从祸乱诸臣或被杀或流放,唯有桑弘羊一人被烹杀。 ‚First crime offense emperor, times crime great sheep’. ‘首罪戾帝,次罪弘羊’。 This is really the cannot erase stain, shouldered such reputation, I and others should want what course to follow! ” 这实在是不可磨灭的污点,背上了这样的名声,我等该要何去何从啊！” Has experienced of Sang Hongyang, other naturally must hit a person when he is down, the struggle of school of thought that life and death, now the Three-Jin legalist school looked like the contamination to be the same, the world feudal lords evaded it less, emperor Liu got sick has not dared to begin using. 经历过桑弘羊之事后,其余诸家自然要落井下石,学派之争,你死我活,现在三晋法家就像是污秽一样,天下诸侯都避之不及,就连皇帝刘病已都不敢启用。 So long as the emperor wanted to begin using the scholar of Three-Jin legalist school, so long as „your majesty used Qin law, was wants to imitate the past event of suddenly/violently Qin and offense emperor?” Can go back the emperor resentment directly. 只要皇帝想要启用三晋法家的学子,只要一句“陛下用秦法,是想要效仿暴秦和戾帝的旧事吗？”直接就能把皇帝怼回去。 A facial features quite firm and resolute scholar said: „ Legalist school governs to with main road, since Emperor Xiaowen has venerated the Confucianist, various depend upon the kindness of royal government, can survive. 一个面容颇为坚毅的文士说道:“法家是经世致用的大道,自孝文皇帝尊崇儒家以来,各家都依靠朝廷的恩典,才能存活。 Only has my legalist school to stand erect throughout, resists the Confucianist, because of my legalist school scholars, can assist the king, can secure State, be able Jane/simple in the emperor heart. ” 唯有我法家能始终屹立,对抗儒家,就是因为我法家士子,能佐君王,能安社稷,能简在帝心。” These words spoke in the people heart, echoes saying: „Yes, these Confucian scholars only line of gab, said that reconstructs Zhou Luo, prosperous Way of the King idle talk.” 这番话说到了众人心中,纷纷附和道:“是啊,那些儒生只会夸夸其谈,说些重建周洛,兴盛王道的废话。” At this time sound towering resounding, „ meek gate line of gab, the world has resulted in 78, almost must annex various, I and others governed to using, actually hundred did not save one, and was discredited. 这时有一个声音突兀的响起,“儒门夸夸其谈,天下已得七八,几乎要并吞诸家,我等经世致用,却百不存一,且声名狼藉。 Lowen Xiaowen with yellow and Confucianist, the creation rules the country, the offense emperor usage, the disaster common people, how does this explain with the world? ” 洛文孝文用黄老和儒家,创造治世,戾帝用法,祸乱苍生,这如何与天下交待？” The lie will not offend somebody, the truth is a sharp knife! 谎言不会伤人,真相才是快刀！ These two made the people unable to stretch directly, almost the flash collapsed on the complexion, argued: „ That is individual behavior, how can blame to my legalist school on? 这两句直接让众人绷不住了,几乎一瞬间就脸色垮塌了下来,强自辩解道:“那都是个人所为啊,怎么能怪到我法家头上？ My legalist school worthy people of former times pipe, is the philosophers temple, isn't this certificate? ” 我法家先贤管子,名列诸子圣殿,这难道不是证明吗？” The people had inexplicable meaning to look at his one eyes, pipe that and we have what relations, that was simultaneous/uniform law the worthy people of former times, recognized the father to admit mistakes. 众人带着莫名的意味望了他一眼,管子那和我们有什么关系,那是齐法的先贤,认爹认错了吧。 Sat stopped the people in the first old man, sighed however sighed: „ On the occasion, said that what significance these words also do have? 坐在首位的老者制止了众人,喟然叹道:“值此之时,说这些话还有什么意义呢？ everyone looks that helplessly my legalist school does wither away? 难道诸位就眼睁睁的看着我法家就此消亡吗？ Doesn't my legalist school really have the good point? 难道我法家真的就没有可取之处吗？ If so, when Soseong of Silla initially in the illustrious city trod the law, why didn't tread my legalist school directly extinguishes? 若真是如此,昭圣王当初在昭城践法之时,为什么不直接将我法家践灭呢？ everyone thinks that is Soseong of Silla is softhearted? 难道诸位以为是昭圣王心慈手软吗？ everyone thinks that is Soseong of Silla cannot achieve? 难道诸位以为是昭圣王做不到吗？ That was really extremely laughable. 那实在是太过可笑了。 Is because my legalist school in this world, deciding however is valuable, can therefore obtain taking pity on Soseong of Silla, allowing us to exist! ” 是因为我法家在这世上,定然有价值,所以才能得到昭圣王的垂怜,允许我们存在！” The people are silent, suddenly some people enter, bow in salute saying: „Chen, Liu Xiang Liu Zizheng came back.” 众人沉默不语,突然有人走进,作揖道:“陈公,刘向刘子政回来了。” Liu Zizheng! 刘子政！ The people on the scene knew, he is the Liu ancestor and relative, was a Duke disciple, the natural talent was very once high, thoroughly understands the law, worked to have the methodicalness, was the disciple of legalist school key trained, originally was the leader of new generation legalist school juniors. 在场的众人都认识,他是刘氏宗亲,曾经是介公的弟子,天资很高,通晓律令,做事有章法,是法家重点培养的弟子,本来是新一代法家子弟的领军人物。 In Duke dies after Liu Dan hand, left the legalist school and meek gate person mixes up, even was still an article government official under the army tent/account of Jin difficulty feudal lord. 但是在介公死于刘旦之手后,离开了法家和儒门的人混在一起,甚至还在靖难诸侯的军帐下做了一个文吏。 One of own most outstanding disciples, invested the hanger- on opponent unexpectedly, even if legalist school type does not care about the masters and disciples to inherit, even attacks the school of thought of killing, feels the shame, one type was stepped on by the meek gate in the sense of stigma of under foot. 自家最杰出的弟子之一,竟然投入了对手的门下,即便是法家这种不太在乎师徒传承,甚至互相之间攻杀的学派,都感觉耻辱,有一种被儒门踩在脚下的耻辱感。 Liu Xiang enters in the room, after saluting, then said directly: „The everyone words, to heard in the outside a moment ago.” 刘向走进屋中,行礼之后,便径直说道:“刚才诸位的话,向在外间都听到了。” Liu Xiang this saying saying people complexions somewhat were then ugly, as the saying goes the skeleton in closet cannot spread, now may really be loses to the family/home disgraced. 刘向这话一说众人脸色便有些难看,俗话说家丑不可外扬,现在可真是丢人丢到家了。 Liu Xiang's sigh with emotion saying: „ A moment ago Chen said good, in addition in the past Soseong of Silla has not trod extinguishes the legalist school, is the legalist school decides however has the good point so, why does everyone improperly belittle oneself? 刘向感慨的说道:“刚才陈公说的好啊,当年昭圣王尚且没有践灭法家,想必是法家定然有可取之处才如此,诸位又何必妄自菲薄呢？ I have been pondering why the legalist school disciples have to govern to obviously with the talent, actually helps the autocrat accomplish, for calamity common people. 我一直在思考为何法家弟子明明有经世致用之才,却总是助独夫成事,为祸苍生。 Why the Confucianist can always stand in the commanding point of morals, obviously all dirty tired merit all are the government officials of name and reality, but does the king actually venerate Confucianist Great Sage? ” 为何儒家总是能够站在道德的至高点,明明所有的脏累之功皆是刑名之吏,但是君王却尊崇儒家大贤呢？” The people want to scold Liu Xiang, making him leave, but Liu Xiang said exactly is, therefore forcefully endured, wants to listen to Liu Xiang these years that they have doubts to have anything to study. 众人本想呵斥刘向,让他离开,但是刘向所说的恰好是他们所疑惑的,于是都强行忍了下来,想要听听刘向这些年有什么研究。 In Liu Xiang yan has the ecliptic: „ These years I and meek disciple make friends, said the disciple exchange that with Lao-Zhuang, debated with the Mohist school juniors, after taking the best, I reached a conclusion. 刘向眼中带着光道:“这些年我和儒门弟子交游,和老庄道的弟子交流,和墨家子弟辩论,博采众长之后,我得到了一个结论。 The crime in legalist school ancient book is ‚on only not to have people’ and ‚has wickedly not good’. 法家典籍之中的罪过就在于‘唯上无民’和‘有恶无善’。 I once exchanged with Meng Ru disciple, why Meng Ru takes exterminating the autocrat as own duty, Meng Ru disciple said that the king is the world is most important, the king does good can the benefitting world, the king will damage the disaster common people, exterminates the autocrat to not to threaten the emperor frequently, but will make the king do not stop at nothing. 我曾经和孟儒弟子交流,为何孟儒以诛除独夫为己任,孟儒弟子说君王是天下最重要的,君王做善就能造福天下,君王为害就会祸乱苍生,诛除独夫不是为了时时刻刻威胁皇帝,但是让君王不要无所顾忌。 law leaves from the king, but in this world also one say/way, dominates above Son of Heaven! 法从王出,但这世上还有一种道,是凌驾在天子之上的！ That is the will of the people of the world. 那就是天下的人心。 This is people your Mr.'s light truth! 这就是民贵君轻的道理！ On these four characters. 就这四个字。 My legalist school could not defeat Meng Ru forever! ” 我法家就永远都战胜不了孟儒！” Heard here legalist school to have several people unable to bear, scolded loudly: „ Simply is the fallacy, the world all from the king, without the restraint of king, the tyrants can the treatment common people of little darling? 听到这里法家中有几人已经忍不住了,大声呵斥道:“简直就是谬论,天下一切都从君王而出,没有君王的约束,豪强难道会乖乖的善待百姓吗？ Without the restraint of king, will these wicked government officials treat the common people and tyrants who are punished for a crime with the regulation fairly? 没有君王的约束,那些奸恶的官吏会公平的用律法对待坐法的百姓和豪强吗？ The king not sufficient strength and can enough sacredness, how make these matters? 君王没有足够的力量和足够的神圣,如何能够做成这些事？ Authority who anybody cannot challenge the king, particularly Jingnan Campaign this defying one's superiors matter! 任何人都不应当挑战君王的权威,尤其是靖难之役这种犯上作乱之事！ Has a look at Jin difficulty the feudal lord, currently also has their forms in Changancheng? 看看靖难诸侯吧,现在在长安城之中还有他们的身影吗？ If Jin difficulty the feudal lord does really correct, why the emperor does want to hurry back to Guandong these Jin difficulty feudal lords? ” 若是靖难诸侯做的真的正确,那么皇帝为什么要将这些靖难诸侯全部赶回关东呢？” Liu Xiang coldly is looking at several people, looks at them to scold itself loudly, calmly is listening, several people of sounds more said are lower, looks at each several other mutually, then has doubts to ask: „Why didn't you refute?” 刘向冷冷的望着几人,望着他们大声呵斥自己,静静地听着,几人的声音越说越低,互相对视几眼,然后疑惑问道:“你为什么不反驳？” Liu Xiang laughs was saying: „ What does this have to be worth refuting? Your how many people said good, isn't this path that the autocrat takes gradually? 刘向嗤笑着说道:“这有什么值得反驳吗？你们几人说的好啊,这不就是独夫渐渐走上的道路吗？ You said many, I even more thought that the thought of legalist school most core has the issue! 你们说得越多,我才愈发觉得法家最核心的思想有问题！ The Meng Confucians most repel the meek gate school of thought of legalist school, in addition other schools of thought will study some thought of legalist school, but Meng Ru actually responds with the enormous repel to the legalist school. 孟儒是最排斥法家的儒门学派,其他的学派尚且会学习法家的一些思想,但是孟儒却对法家报以极大的排斥。 You know the scholar who these Meng Ru how appraises the legalist school? ” 你们知道那些孟儒的学子是怎么评价法家的吗？” Was saying observes the situation the people, sneers saying: „ Legalist school word law, senior official common people, treating impartially, the legalist school scholars are always firm, does not fear the powerful official, thinks Meng Ru is commending and others? 说着环视众人,冷笑道:“法家言律,大夫庶民,一视同仁,法家学子一向刚强,不畏权贵,是不是以为孟儒在称赞尔等？ . 呵。 The legalist school obeys to the king from the ideological root completely, the bottom line of legalist school gradually reduces with the heavy pressure of king! 法家从思想根源之中对君王是完全服从的,法家的底线是随着君王的重压而逐渐降低的！ These fused the Confucianist of legalist school thought to take the evil ways. 那些融合了法家思想的儒家走上了邪路。 The Confucian bone, that is the legalist school, is not a Confucianist! 儒皮法骨,那是法家,不是儒家！ Once the Confucianist disciple contaminated the thought of legalist school, Cynic who finally will certainly turn into the amenable king! 儒家弟子一旦沾染了法家的思想,最终一定会变成顺从君王的犬儒！ Sang Hongyang's such great ability, for the glory, splendor, riches and honor, submits to Liu Dan such autocrat, the full house high-ranking court official, no pointed out face to face Liu Dan mistake, no dares the direct by autocrats to reprimand his. 桑弘羊那样的大才,为了荣华富贵,屈从于刘旦这样的独夫,满堂公卿,没有一个当面指出刘旦的过错,没有一个敢直接以独夫斥责他的。 The water and fire are incompatible, on only the say/way and Monarch light say/way cannot exist simultaneously. 水和火是不能相容的,唯上之道和君轻之道是不能同时存在的。 This is Meng Ru thought. ” 这就是孟儒的思想。” Full house entirely static! 满堂俱静！ Cynics! 犬儒！ This is scolding the Confucianist who these and Liu Dan collaborates, is also scolding the legalist school, in the mouth of Meng Confucian, the legalist school only on thought became the root of all evil, for fear that evades it less. 这是在骂那些和刘旦同流合污的儒家,同时也是在骂法家,在孟儒的嘴中,法家唯上的思想成了万恶之源,唯恐避之不及。 „Absurd!” “荒谬！” „Absurd!” “荒谬！” Pointed at the nose to scold like this, the air/Qi several people said not completely the words, but they do not know how this/should must refute. 被这样指着鼻子骂,气得几人连话都说不完全,但是他们又不知道该要如何去反驳。 Looked over all previous talented person of Three-Jin legalist school, has not criticized the king, was really the first under heaven of Shun feudal official. 纵观三晋法家的历代贤人,从来没有过指斥君王,真是天下第一等的顺臣。 „Has wickedly not also wants to listen good?” “有恶无善还想要听吗？” Inquiry: 提问: Confucian bone later Confucianist. 儒皮法骨之后的儒家。 Is the Confucian thoughts are many, are the legalist school thought many? 到底是儒家思想多,还是法家思想多？ ( This chapter ends) (本章完)