Chapter 341 drawback 第341章弊端 When the sunlight sprinkles in the imperial palace, the royal courtiers also think this is only one normal toward the meeting, does not know Liu Heng prepares to everyone pleasant surprise. 当阳光洒落在皇宫之中,朝臣们还以为这只是一场正常的朝会,并不知道刘恒准备给所有人一个惊喜。 Luo scenery naturally must have an audience with the emperor. 洛景自然是要上朝的。 After Liu Heng arrives in the palace, toward will start the flow, after the official flow walks, Liu Heng asked: „Can Ministers have playing?” 刘恒来到殿中之后,朝会开始走流程,等到正式流程走完之后,刘恒就问道:“众卿可有本奏？” At the reporting toward meeting, basically walks the flow greatly, generally will not really have anything to put here to discuss, generally is the situations that is used to probe. 大朝会上的这种上奏,基本上都是走流程,一般不会真的有什么事放到这里来讨论,一般都是用来试探的场合。 However today is special, the lesser official who that Jia Yi arranges runs the land tax sets out to arrive at the palace middle course from behind: „Your majesty, the feudal official has playing.” 但是今天特殊,贾谊安排好的一名掌管钱粮的小官从后面起身走到殿中道:“陛下,臣有本奏。” This makes the whole body of ministers look askance, here many did not even know that this person, does not know such unimportant person can have at anything Emperor Bing, the smart person has started to calculate, this was the board game piece that who pushed. 这一幕让群臣纷纷侧目,这里很多人甚至不认识这个人,不知道这样的小人物能有什么事上秉皇帝,聪明人已经开始盘算,这是谁推出来的棋子了。 Liu Heng asked with a smile: „What matter does Sir/minister have?” 刘恒笑着问道:“卿有何事？” „ Your majesty, feudal official expostulation. “陛下,臣谏言。 In years past because the world needed a substantial amount of money, because the false coin was in flood, the royal government cannot stop, therefore Queen tall permitted the personal coin money, but after these year of innumerable copper coin classes in the country, the feudal official to the fault of law have exceeded the profit for this reason. 昔年因为天下需要大量的钱币,又因为假币泛滥,朝廷不能制止,所以高皇后允许私人铸造钱币,但是经过这些年无数的铜钱流在国中,臣以为此法之弊害已经胜过益处。 The power of coined money is related to the royal government fundamental safety, must take back the royal government early, forbids the folk secretly coined money, then hands over by the royal government unified casting. ” 铸币之权事关朝廷根本安危,应当及早收归朝廷,禁止民间私自铸币,转而交由朝廷统一铸造。” Such remarks, many people looked at the vision directly to Liu Heng of head. 此话一出,很多人都将目光直接望向了上首的刘恒。 Isn't this person who the emperor finds directly? 这不会是皇帝直接找的人吧？ Under actual Heaven the man of insight had seen, the royal government must reclaim the power of coined money sooner or later, did not say that these to the advantage of royal government, stemming from the humane quite greedy angle, the coined money such big profit, how the ignores nobilities tyrants to have possibly earned merely? 实际上天下有识之士早就看出,朝廷迟早是要收回铸币之权的,不说那些对朝廷的好处,仅仅是出于人性比较贪婪的角度来看,铸币这么大的利润,怎么可能一直放任王侯豪强们去赚取呢？ Although the mainstream opinion is the righteousness in the advantage, but in does this world really have the person who does not love money? 虽然主流舆论是义在利上,但这世上难道真的有不爱钱的人吗？ Even if the emperor wants to work, that still needs money, the emperor has the world's largest power, in any event thinks, is impossible gold mountain that gives up coined money delivering unceasingly. 即便是皇帝想要做什么事,那也都是需要钱的,皇帝拥有着天下最大的权力,无论如何想,都不可能放弃铸币这座不断产出的金山。 Just also above the quite peaceful deliberation hall, immediately is in an uproar, even had the royal courtier to leave ranks to angrily rebuke directly saying: „ Really is a nonsense! 刚刚还比较安静的朝堂之上,立刻就是一片哗然,甚至直接就有朝臣出列怒斥道:“真是一片胡言！ Permits the personal coined money, this is Queen tall and pioneering work of King Wen. 允许私人铸币,这是高皇后和洛文王的创举。 For dozens years, under this policy, the world are even more prosperous, moreover this money quality of towards is all previous generations is highest, now the folk continually a wee bit was the use previous dynasty the old currency did not have. 数十年来,在这项政策之下,天下愈发的欣欣向荣起来,而且本朝的钱币质量是历代最高的,现在民间连一丁点是使用前朝旧币的都没有。 Hasn't this been able to prove the foreknowledge of King Wen? 这难道还不能证明洛文王的先见之明吗？ Are you questioning Queen tall and King Wen? 难道你这是在质疑高皇后和洛文王吗？ Really big dog guts! 真是好大的狗胆！ I looked that you are a disloyal subject who wants the cholera court discipline, said that the languages of these grafty and evil people, want to mislead your majesty, is really ten thousand dies to be able hardly absolve. 吾看你就是个想要霍乱朝纲的奸臣,说这些奸邪之语,想要蛊惑陛下,实在是万死难辞其咎。 Your majesty, please kills this thief, lets people have a correct understanding of the facts. ” 陛下,请杀此贼,以正视听。” Unexpectedly directly moved Queen tall and King Wen, moreover said makes many people approve, particularly new position and influence, to these people were really high. 竟然直接把高皇后和洛文王搬了出来,而且说的让不少人都认同,尤其是洛新的地位和影响力,对这些人来说实在是太高了。 This person of many knew, is not only a royal courtier, is one of the Confucianist lineage/vein leading figures, is the present age profound scholar, the appearance that now bristles with anger, making one not doubt, if his sharp sword, will perhaps raise the sword handle just the royal courtier of speech to hold to pass the heart on hand directly to be cool. 这人很多人都认识,不仅仅是朝臣,还是儒家一脉的首脑人物之一,是当世的大儒,现在怒发冲冠的模样,让人毫不怀疑,如果他手边有一把利剑的话,恐怕会直接提着剑把刚刚啊说话的朝臣捅个透心凉。 Let him know that the military force of Confucianist is abundant, why making him know initially why the Confucianists and Mohists and is two big famous doctrines, because of other person of can be victorious Mohist school, the Confucianist can! 让他知道一下儒家的武力充沛,让他知道一下为什么当初为什么儒墨并为两大显学,因为其他人打不过墨家,儒家可以！ Others will certainly not be letting him, similarly leaves ranks said loudly: „ Above deliberation hall spoke freely, this similarly was the custom that Queen tall and King Wen set, you shouted like this hit to shout "kill", was what wants to make? 其他人当然不会让着他,同样出列大声道:“朝堂之上畅所欲言,这同样是高皇后和洛文王所定下的规矩,你这样喊打喊杀,是想要做什么？ I looked that was the you coin money obtained the big advantage, therefore obstructed the royal government to reclaim the power of coined money. ” 吾看就是伱自己铸造钱币获得了大利,所以才阻挠朝廷收回铸币之权。” This is the direct personal attack, above the deliberation hall makes a mess immediately, these people point at the nose to scold, even begins to near person directly. 这番更是直接人身攻击,朝堂之上顿时就乱做一团,这些人纷纷指着鼻子骂起来,甚至离得近的人直接就动起手来。 Luo scenery distant looks, on the face full is the happy expression, is really the vivid energetic deliberation hall. 洛景远远的看着,脸上满是笑意,真是生动有活力的朝堂啊。 Liu Heng sits in previous, the complexion is somewhat helpless, this atmosphere the time started from Emperor tall, looked at Luo scenery one, saw that this boy also smiles unexpectedly, said: „Scenery, lets them peacefully.” 刘恒在上首坐着,脸色有些无奈,这个风气从高皇帝时代就开始了,望了洛景一眼,见到这小子竟然还笑,说道:“阿景,让他们安静一点。” Luo Jing Xiao in hand rigid copper hammer, then numerous sounding, the so serious sound resound through in the main hall, the whole body of ministers then stopped the friendly exchange pantingly. 洛景笑着手中执着铜锤,然后重重的敲响,如此沉重的声音响彻在大殿之中,群臣这才气喘吁吁的停下了友好的交流。 Liu Heng rubbed the head gently, he guessed correctly certainly will have the argument, after all touches the benefit touching the soul is more difficult. 刘恒轻轻揉了揉头,他就猜到了一定会有争论,毕竟触动利益比触动灵魂还要艰难。 The debate that however above the deliberation hall triggers came as a surprise to Liu Heng, moreover this is completely a chaos war, the person who these profit was naturally needless saying that Liu Heng will not care about their opinions. 但是朝堂之上引起的争论还是出乎了刘恒的预料,而且这完全是一场大乱战,那些从中得利的人自然不用多说,刘恒不会在乎他们的意见。 But the issue is in the person who these and coined money eight bamboo poles cannot hit also many oppositions. 但问题是那些和铸币八竿子打不着的人之中也有不少反对。 Liu Heng sees with own eyes this situation, then stopped temporarily toward the meeting. 刘恒眼见这种情况,便暂时停下了朝会。 „The opinion of everyone your family, Our opinion knows, such being the case, that selects the time to make everyone your family discuss together, which side having a look at more reasonable.” “诸位卿家的意见,朕意见知晓,既然如此,那就挑时间使诸位卿家一同商议一下,看看到底哪方更有道理。” Liu Heng prepares to discuss well, the scene that after all the supporter and opponents speak plausibly is really rarely seen. 刘恒准备好好探讨一下,毕竟支持者和反对者都振振有词的场面实在是不多见。 Although he in the heart had determined that must take back the royal government, but listens to the opinion of opposition, could make for the following matter supplemented, after all policy-making never perfect this view. 他虽然心中已经确定一定要收归朝廷,但是听一听反对派的意见,或许能够为后续的事情做出一些补充,毕竟政策的制定从来就没有尽善尽美这个说法。 In Changlegong, Liu Heng looks is being similar to the memorial to the emperor that the snowflake presents generally at present, quite somewhat sigh with emotion saying: „Scenery, you said why will have so many people to oppose?” 长乐宫中,刘恒望着眼前如同雪花一般呈递上来的奏折,颇有些感慨的说道:“阿景,你说为什么会有这么多人反对呢？” Luo scenery is reading these memorials to the emperor, hesitates saying: „These people said also has the truth, the matter that but in this world had not brought only benefit , and no harm whatsoever, the key is to look to need anything, in the past the royal government needs to transfer the mintage, now needs to reclaim the mintage , there is nothing to be worth discussing.” 洛景翻看着那些奏折,沉吟道:“这些人说的也不是没有道理,但这世上本就没有百利而无一害的事情,关键是要看需要什么,当年朝廷需要下放铸币权,现在则需要收回铸币权,没什么可值得讨论的。” Liu Heng said with a smile in a soft voice: „Be that as it may, but the uncle taught Us in years past, must listen to remonstration of official, encourages the wide airing of views, is good at being receptive to admonition, so long as listened, regardless of there is according to the expostulation does, the official will do one's best, therefore We must listen to them to say what words to come.” 刘恒轻声笑道:“话虽如此,但姑父昔年教导朕,一定要多听臣子的劝谏,广开言路,善于纳谏,只要听了,不论有没有按照谏言去做,臣子都会尽心尽力,所以朕要听一听他们能说出什么话来。” The mintage took back royal government matter to trigger the enormous argument, the storm of this argument even swept across all schools of thought directly. 铸币权收归朝廷这件事引发了极大的争论,这场争论的风暴甚至直接席卷了所有的学派。 yellow the Taoism opposes to reclaim the mintage, in the Confucianist has the opposition, has the support, after all the Confucianist School was really many, instead the legalist school basically agreed to reclaim the mintage. 黄老道家反对收回铸币权,儒家之中有反对的,有支持的,毕竟儒家学派实在是太多了,反而法家基本上都同意收回铸币权。 Here must first explain a point, although experienced Luo Ling to tread the law, but the legalist school had not been eliminated. 这里就要首先说明一点,虽然经历了洛陵践法,但法家并没有被消灭。 Because Luo Ling treads the law not to kill a legalist school club, but criticized certain thought. 因为洛陵践法没有将法家一棒子打死,而是批判了其中的某些思想。 The legalist school is good to benefit, what asked was the glory, splendor, riches and honor, facing quick that the might knelt, not only facing monarchy this, facing Luo similarly so. 法家好利,求的是荣华富贵,面对强权跪的很快,不仅仅面对君主这样,面对洛氏同样如此。 They these controlling people techniques removes after the ideological ancient book, neutralized some not too extreme thought that transformed own theory, then accepts the regulation of Luo. 他们将那些驭民术从思想典籍去除之后,中和了一些不太偏激的思想,改造了自己的学说,然后接受洛氏的监管。 The legalist school scholars who therefore now become an official are many, when holds the post of the regent government newly, although is intimate with the Confucianist and yellow the School, but to legalist school scholar, so long as has both ability and integrity, he is willing to use similarly. 所以如今出仕的法家学子还是不少的,洛新担任摄政之时,虽然亲近儒家和黄老学派,但对法家学子,只要德才兼备,他同样愿意使用。 However in legalist school scholars talented many, but virtuous are not many, legalist school that type thinks that amiable welldoing completely useless educational thoughts some were extremely extreme. 不过法家学子之中有才能的不少,但有德行的却不多,法家那种认为仁义德行完全没用的教育思想还是有些太过偏激了。 These years are still continue change the theory, learn/study the approach of Confucianist, from the Confucianist, in the yellow native place absorb these and attractive writing of pleasant to hear massively conceal themselves. 这些年还在继续改学说,学习儒家的做法,大量从儒家,黄老家之中吸收那些好听又好看的文字来掩饰自己。 Liu Heng's speed is quick, in a side hall in Changlegong quick was filled with all big shot, these have majority of interest relations not to come here, because Liu Heng is to hear reclaims the mintage the drawback, thus patches own policy. 刘恒的速度很快,长乐宫的一座偏殿之中很快就坐满了各方大佬,那些有利益关系的大部分都没有来到这里,因为刘恒是想要听到一些收回铸币权的弊端,从而修补自己的政策。 The opening is a yellow old-fashioned doctor said directly directly: „Royal government takes back the coin money the power, was the action of remaining people and oppressive people, the misery of the world common people must start since then, the feudal official looked at your majesty to think deeply.” 开头就直接是黄老派的一位博士直接说道:“朝廷收回铸造钱币的权力,是残民、虐民之举,天下百姓的苦难就要从此而开始了,臣望陛下深思。” Liu Heng has not spoken, Luo Jing asked: „Also asked the doctor to explain in detail.” 刘恒没说话,洛景问道:“还请博士详解。” Doctor access road/simply said: „ In years past violent Qin, beginning emperor unified various nations money, is unified to provide by the royal government, but the quick folk starts to create a false impression. 博士便道:“昔年暴秦之时,始皇帝统一列国钱币,由朝廷统一发放,但是很快民间就开始造假。 Arrived guy similarly so. 到了大汉同样如此。 You think, only then the feudal lord king as well as will the tyrants create a false impression? 难道您以为只有诸侯王以及豪强会造假吗？ The wind of fabrication is from top to bottom, almost all people participate to be one of them, because the cost is really inexpensive, the method is really many. 造假之风是从上到下,几乎所有人都参与在其中,因为成本实在是过于低廉,手段实在是过于多。 By the understanding of feudal official, the most preliminary method rubs the copper powder in the edge of copper coin, then the big money will rub some not to have the obvious change, these copper powders will accumulate over a long period of time, then can the casting to become new money, profit. 以臣的了解,最低级的手段就是在铜钱的边缘磨下铜粉,那么大的钱币磨一些根本就不会有明显的变化,这些铜粉日积月累,然后就可以铸造成新的钱,从中得利。 And what is more, melts directly the copper coin, to dopes other metals, makes that type of not valuable change, inside soon did not even have the copper, the folk called it ‚leaf money’, the meaning was light the money like the leaf. 更有甚者,直接将铜钱融开,向其中掺杂其他的金属,做成那种不值钱的小钱,里面甚至快要没有铜了,民间称之为‘叶钱’,意为像叶子一样轻的钱。 Such method not its number, the Mohist school knows clearest, after all the workshop of many coin money is they constructs. 这样的手段不尽其数,墨家想必知道的最为清楚,毕竟很多铸造钱币的工坊都是他们建造的。 Such situation transfers the mintage until the royal government, the world tyrants competed to promote money the quality to be finished, the feudal official can say directly definite, Queen tall to these dozens years that King Wen was in power, since having copper coin, money quality maximum dozens years. 这样的情况直到朝廷下放铸币权,天下豪强竞相提升钱币的质量才算是结束,臣可以直接确定的说,高皇后到洛文王执政的这数十年,是从有铜钱以来,钱币质量最高的数十年。 Once you start to reclaim the mintage, will then certainly request the folk to accept this money forcefully, after all under this day does not have the royal government to coin money, truth that the common people actually do not receive, that despises the dignity of royal government. 一旦您开始收回铸币权,那么就一定会强行要求民间接受这种钱,毕竟这天下没有朝廷铸钱,百姓却不收的道理,那是蔑视朝廷的威严。 The feudal officials are not really willing to see now the hard-won scene, is destroyed in a moment, therefore the expostulation you, do not may take back the coined money. ” 臣实在是不愿意见到如今来之不易的场面,毁于一旦,所以才谏言您,万万不可收回铸币。” These words make Liu Heng frown slightly, because is is very indeed reasonable some aspect, initially newly was also because had the reason in this aspect to let loose to the control of money. 这一番话让刘恒微微皱起了眉头,因为在某一个方面来说的确是很有道理,当初洛新也是因为有这方面的原因才放开对钱币的管控。 Luo Jing Hear these words was actually somewhat agreeing, but also some different opinions, but this situation, he naturally cannot be out personally, naturally some countless people break through enemy lines for him. 洛景听着这一番话却有些同意,但也有不同意见,不过这种场合,他自然不会亲自下场,自然有无数人为他冲锋陷阵。 Really some people voice to oppose quickly, moreover from completely different aspects. 果然很快就有人发声反对,而且是从完全不同的方面。 - -- In the Emperor Wen of Han period, in view of the ownership issue of mintage, above the deliberation hall launched the vigorous argument, Emperor Wen of Han held a conference specially, known as „discussing of coined money”, opinion of this conference both sides by the complete record, can spread the later generation through the historical records, the author the historical data translation explanation, striving will cause both sides that each reader can understand this argument in detail.- «man (Han) Dynasty Rise and fall History» 在汉文帝时期,针对铸币权的归属问题,朝堂之上展开了激烈的争论,汉文帝特意召开了一次会议,史称“铸币之议”,这场会议双方的言论被完整的记录下来,得以通过史籍流传后世,笔者将会详细将史料翻译解读,力争使每一个读者都能够理解这场争论的双方。-《汉王朝兴衰史》 ( This chapter ends) (本章完)