Chapter 283 kills to Luo people greatly 第283章汉廷的对洛人大杀器 Such simple? 这么简单？ Lu Zhi is somewhat stunned, one set of government systems and can some thought play such major role? 吕雉有些错愕,一套官制和一些思想就能发挥这么大的作用吗？ Said with a smile newly in a soft voice: „Queen mother, child assisted say, is melted numerous after Jane/simple, wants to realize these two points, needs many policies, particularly carrying out of thought that must persevere did.” 洛新轻声笑道:“太后,子襄所说的,是化繁就简后,想要实现这两点,是需要很多政策的,尤其是思想的推行,要持之以恒的去做。” Lu Zhi hears word said seriously: „Also asked young master Chen to teach Us.” 吕雉闻言郑重道:“还请公子辰教朕。” Luo Chen reorganized a train of thought saying: „ Person radically lies in the thought that but does not lie in the flesh, now lives in the people of ten million/countless guy, although is called as Qin people, Chu people, Qi people respectively wait/etc., but has the understanding of All Xia. 洛辰整理了一下思绪说道:“人的根本在于思想,而不在于血肉,如今生活在大汉的千万子民,虽然各自称作秦人、楚人、齐人等,但都有诸夏的认识。 Did the Yin Shang descendant disappear? 殷商的后裔难道消失了吗？ Naturally is impossible, Song Country is the population 1 million great nations , because they already under tradition of Zhou, turned into Zhou people. 当然不可能,宋国是人口百万的大国,是因为他们已经在周礼之下,变成了周人。 When Song Country was carved up, turned into Luo people, Qi people, Chu people wait/etc. 等到宋国被瓜分,就变成了洛人,齐人,楚人等等。 Was Jin Country powerful in the past? 晋国当年多么强大呢？ However now only then Zhao people, Han people, Wei people. 但是现在只有赵人,韩人,魏人。 Therefore after Qin Dynasty collapsed destroyed, some Zhao, Wei and Han person of duplicate/restores countries, but did not have the artificial Yin Shang duplicate/restores country, did not have the artificial Jin Country duplicate/restores country. 所以秦朝崩毁之后,赵魏韩都有人复国,但却没有人为殷商复国,没有人为晋国复国。 Because from the thought that Jin Country as well as past that several hundred various Marquisate has perished. 因为从思想之中,晋国以及过去那数百个诸侯国都已经灭亡了。 Therefore wants the guy to be calm and steady, you must establish the approval of Han people, Chu people, Qi people, Zhao people are Han people. 所以想要大汉安稳,您就要建立汉人的认同,不论是楚人,齐人,赵人都是汉人。 Otherwise if some people raise the arm in Shandong shout, must duplicate/restores set up the state, then all rested on all things. 否则若是有人在山东振臂一呼,要复立社稷,那就万事皆休了。 This is not in fact difficult! 这实际上并不难！ Because Shandong various countries follow the system of tradition of Zhou, believes in the uncrowned king, between various countries does not have the disparity of essence, therefore only requires within the short time, can fuse together. 因为山东诸国都遵循周礼的制度,都信奉素王,各国之间没有本质的差距,所以只需要短短时间之内,就能融为一体。 The guys want the long-term peace and good government, must further fuse these people, now world only then summer Yi distinction, without establishing to the approval of guy, this is the dynasty whether can continue the number by the foundation of hundred years of idea. ” 大汉想要长治久安,就要进一步将这些人融合起来,现在天下只有夏夷的分别,没有建立对大汉的认同,这是王朝是否能延续数以百年计的根基。” Lu Zhi hears word recalled experience, the present world person, by Qi people, Chu people wait/etc. said as before, rather than the Han people of simultaneous/uniform place, even in supreme headquarters Guanzhong, routine calls it Qin people, before had not thought where is not right. 吕雉闻言回想起自己所经历的,如今的天下人,依旧以齐人,楚人等自称,而不是齐地的汉人,甚至就在汉廷的大本营关中,还是习惯性称之为秦人,之前并没有觉得哪里不对。 However now a Luo Chen saying, responds instantaneously, Han Dynasty did not have the Han people, Han Dynasty established in the dreamland? 但是现在洛辰一说,瞬间就反应起来,汉朝却没有汉人,难道汉朝是建立在梦境中的吗？ News word was actually the eyeground has the happy expression looked at Luo Chen one eyes, Luo Chen these words were indeed reasonable, but not only considered for Han Dynasty, a very essential point was Shandong various countries believes in the uncrowned king! 洛新闻言却是眼底带着笑意的望了洛辰一眼,洛辰这番话的确是有道理,但可不仅仅是为了汉朝着想,其中很关键的一点就是山东诸国都信奉素王！ To fuse to become the Han people, either letter/believes the uncrowned king, either does not believe. 想要融合成为汉人,要么都信素王,要么都不信。 Then naturally not possible and world does against as Guanzhong of man (Han) Thüngen base, the only choice is lets several million people of Guanzhong and Bashu culture believes in the uncrowned king similarly. 那么作为汉廷根基的关中自然不可能和天下都对着干,唯一的选择就是让关中和巴蜀的数百万生民同样信奉素王。 Lu Zhi hesitates slightly a access road/simply said: „ What you said is right, the place of Shandong exchanges extremely numerous, but Guanzhong is actually not this, between both sides is hostile mutually, this does not favor the world being stable. 吕雉略微沉吟一番便道:“您说的是对的,山东之地互相交流极多,但是关中却不是这样,双方之间互相敌视,这是不利于天下稳定的。 The uncrowned king is the ancestors of Lü two, We have not heard to have the non- ancestor worship, but can make the state stable. 素王是洛吕二氏的祖先,朕未尝听闻有不崇拜祖先而能让社稷安定的。 From now on, must disseminate the uncrowned king in the place of Guanzhong gradually to is high and great. ” 从现在起,就应当逐步在关中之地传播素王的至高和伟大。” Lu Zhi, asked: „ The Donga marquis and young master Chen, We have an idea, that chooses some life exhausted people to move Guanzhong from Shandong. 吕雉顿了一顿,问道:“东阿侯、公子辰,朕有一个想法,那就是从山东挑选一些生活困顿的人迁徙到关中。 Your two know, after war continually, the Guanzhong young population presented the giant gap. 您二位都知道,经过连番的大战,关中的青壮人口出现了巨大的缺口。 If sends here the population of Shandong, on the one hand can weaken the strength of Shandong, then at the same time can rapidly complete Guanzhong to uncrowned king's belief. ” 若是将山东的人口迁来,一方面可以削弱山东的实力,一方面则可以快速的完成关中对素王的信仰。” Guanzhong old Qin people may really be too miserable, King ​of Qin does not say toward the period. 关中的老秦人可实在是太惨了,秦王朝时期就不说了。 The war of Handan was fought not to have 300,000 people by Xiang Yu directly, Han Xin led the Chinese army to perish Qin is a large number of people loses, after Xiang Yu entered the pass, was one tosses about. 邯郸之战直接被项羽打没了三十万人,韩信率领着汉军亡秦又是大量的人口损失,项羽入关之后,又是一阵折腾。 Is Qin people and Xiang Yu who Liu Bang brings only to remain fights for the world, then Peng city is one wave loses, after Han Dynasty established, Liu Bang has not been idling, subjugated everywhere different surnamed Wang, Guanzhong just restored points to be exhausted. 紧接着就是刘邦带着仅剩的秦人和项羽争天下,然后彭城又是一波折戟,汉朝建立之后刘邦没有闲着,四处征讨异姓王,关中刚刚恢复一点就被耗尽。 Continual by the Guanzhong enemy world, making Guanzhong as depressed as an extreme, the registered permanent address cut in half is light, can only say the luck to be good, without coming across in the past that three mountains earthquake, disaster that the Wei River blocked the flow, otherwise instantaneously was in same place explosion. 连续的以关中敌天下,让关中凋敝到了一个极点,户口减半都是轻的,只能说运气好,没遇到当年那种三山地震,渭河断流的天灾,否则瞬间就是原地爆炸。 May too understand Lu Zhi newly, he responds immediately, asked: „Queen mother, before you are will want, Luo Country Luo people, will Qi people move Guanzhong?” 洛新可太了解吕雉了,他立刻就反应过来,问道:“太后,您是想要将以前洛国的洛人,还有齐人迁徙到关中吗？” Luo people is without a doubt to uncrowned king's belief, takes the family to obliterate as the belief of unit is very difficult, in Qi Country worships the uncrowned king same extremely numerous. 洛人对素王的信仰是毋庸置疑的,以家庭为单位的信仰想要磨灭都很难,齐国之中祭拜素王的同样极多。 Lu Zhi said with a smile: „ Naturally is wants Luo people to move, Guanzhong is a land of abundance, if scatters in all directions Luo people in Guanzhong various counties, this to the royal government and Luo people is the good deed. 吕雉笑道:“自然是想要洛人迁徙来的,关中是天府之国,若是将洛人四散在关中的各郡,这对朝廷和洛人都是好事。 However Qi people remains together, We know that Luo people part moved to the south, is related through marriage with Chu people, if willing also to move Guanzhong part of Chu people. ” 但是齐人还是留在齐地吧,朕知道洛人一部分南迁了,和楚人通婚很多,若是愿意还想将一部分楚人迁徙到关中。” Luo Chen couldn't help applauding to commend Lu Zhi simply, was really a talent outstanding wonderful female, four brother who no wonder can have keen eyesight in withstand/top favored. 洛辰简直忍不住要击掌称赞吕雉了,真是一位天赋卓绝的奇女子啊,怪不得能得到眼高于顶的四兄青睐。 Luo Chen first sees Lu Zhi, but also is the comparison acts with constraint, sighed on direct to praise newly: „E xu, without my assistance, your also kept the history sufficiently, became the outstanding emperor.” 洛辰初次见到吕雉,还算是比较矜持,洛新就直接赞叹道:“娥姁,哪怕没有我的辅佐,你也足以名留青史,成为优秀的帝王了。” Calls the character of queen mother regarding four brother directly, Luo Chen casts down one's eyes, the ear view heart, did not say a word, Lu Zhi narrowed the eye to say with a smile slightly: „Were the Donga marquises know in my heart to think?” 对于四兄直接唤太后的字,洛辰眼观鼻,耳观心,一言不发,吕雉微微眯起眼笑道:“想必东阿侯是知晓我心中所想了？” Guessed certainly newly. 洛新当然猜出来了。 Why Lu Zhi must move Guanzhong Luo people, because Luo people is very special, has the cultural identity the people of various countries, only has two not to found a nation, one is Qin people, one is Luo people. 吕雉为什么要把洛人迁徙到关中,因为洛人很特殊,目前存在身份认同的各国之人,只有两个没有建国,一个是秦人,一个是洛人。 These two are the easiest direct conversion for the Han people. 这两个是最容易直接转换为汉人的。 That to Lu Zhi, Qin people and does Luo people compare? 那对吕雉来说,秦人怎么和洛人比啊？ The difference that this is not the biological mother raised and stepmother who raises, between both was difference of cloud mud, was no comparison between them completely. 这已经不是亲娘养的和后娘养的区别了,两者之间是云泥之别,完全不可同日而语。 If can move Guanzhong million Luo people, will be as stable as the rock of Gibraltar. 若是能将百万洛人迁徙到关中,汉廷将会稳如泰山。 What is most essential, is Luo people willing to come? 最关键的是,洛人愿不愿意过来呢？ Naturally is wants, because of the mausoleum of uncrowned king in Guanzhong! 当然是愿意的,因为素王的陵墓就在关中！ This simply is in hand kills greatly, to Luo people attraction MAX. 这简直是汉廷手中的大杀器,对洛人吸引力MAX。 Lu Zhi must do also not only so, she also wants to move Chu people, this had the breadth of spirit. 吕雉要做的还不仅仅如此,她还想要将楚人迁徙过来,这就非常有气魄了。 Even if Xiang Yu competes for the world failure, but Shandong various countries, Chu Country is strongest. 即便项羽争夺天下失败,但是山东诸国,楚国还是最强。 Is the world chaotic, Chu Country decides. 天下乱不乱,楚国说了算。 This also why Liu Bang seals Chu Country the most talented brothers, then also minute/share Wu County and Yue Country comes out from Chu Country, was divided into three Situ. 这也是为什么刘邦将自己最有才能的兄弟封到楚国,然后还从楚国之中将吴国和越国分出来,将西楚一分为三。 However as we all know, this means wanted the effective need the time are really long, but there Xiang ruled several hundred years of fiefdom. 但是所有人都知道,这种办法想要奏效需要的时间实在是太长了,那里可是项氏统治了数百年的封地。 Xiang on that lands is almost reprint Luo, the prestige high stems from everyone to imagine. 项氏在那片土地上几乎就是翻版的洛氏,威望之高是出乎所有人想象的。 Liu Bang gave Xiang Yu the final dignity, and has not criticized in view of Xiang, therefore Chu Country is so tranquil, otherwise by the Chu Country strength, Liu Bang wants to still East Changjiang not to know must again multi- class/flow many blood. 刘邦给了项羽最后的体面,并且没有针对项氏清算,所以楚国才那么平静,否则以楚国的实力,刘邦想要平定江东不知道还要再多流多少血。 Asked newly directly: „Queen mother, are you want to raise Xiang Yu's position?” 洛新直接问道:“太后,您是想要抬高项羽的地位吗？” Xiang Yu experienced three promotions in the position of East Changjiang, the first time was he just became Duke of Chu, because East Changjiang Chu people he was Xiang respects him. 项羽在江东的地位经历了三次升格,第一次是他刚刚成为楚公,江东楚人因为他是项氏而敬重他。 Is for the second time Xiang Yu becomes the world to advocate, what is true after was Chu people did the practical work, Chu people is willing to be ready to give one's life for him. 第二次则是项羽成为天下共主,真正的为楚人做了实事之后,楚人愿意为他效死。 Is for the third time Xiang Yu is not willing to make Chu people bleed to commit suicide in the war that must defeat again, after this matter, place of everywhere sing overlord East Changjiang. 第三次则是项羽不愿意让楚人再在必败的战争之中流血而自杀,这件事之后,江东之地处处歌咏霸王。 If said that the uncrowned king replaced the Taiyi position, Xiang Yu soon became the eastern Mr . 若说素王代替了太一的位置,项羽则快要成为东君了。 To receive the heart of Chu people in this time, other means first did not say, official must first face Xiang Yu's issue, unifies the world on as great ancestor Emperor tall the path, the biggest enemy and hindrance, how must locate. 想要在这个时间段收楚人的心,其他的办法先不说,汉廷官方首先就要面对项羽的问题,作为太祖高皇帝统一天下的道路上,最大的敌人和阻碍,要怎么定位。 Lu Zhi said with a smile: „ The Donga marquis, eve you spoke the Yan and Huang two emperors to fight with Chi You in Zhuolu for Us, wins, but the Yan and Huang two emperors Chi You wen on the flag, have Chi You's sacrificial offering until now, his was called as the soldier lord. 吕雉笑道:“东阿侯,前夜你为朕讲炎黄二帝同蚩尤在涿鹿大战,战而胜之,但是炎黄二帝却将蚩尤纹在旗帜上,直到现在都有蚩尤的祭祀,他被人称作兵主。 Xiang Yu's supernaturally brave, under this day haven't some people known? 项羽的神勇,难道这天下还有人不知道吗？ If Xiang Yu is not considered as that the soldier lord descends to earth, others do calculate? 如果项羽不算是兵主下凡,难道还有其他人算吗？ Under the uncrowned king, eight Lord sacrificial offerings, young master Chen saying made Us have the innumerable ideas together a moment ago, We must construct the sacrificial offering system of guy. 齐地在素王之下,有八主的祭祀,刚才公子辰所言让朕有了无数的想法,朕要重新构建大汉的祭祀体系。 We must lord the sacrificial offering Xiang Yu as the soldier of guy, all generals after accepting to confer rank and title, as well as before going to battle, must before Xiang Yu god position worships. ” 朕要将项羽作为大汉的兵主祭祀,所有的将帅在接受册封之后,以及出征之前,都要到项羽神位前祭拜。” Wonderful! 妙啊！ Is new and Luo Chen cannot bear applaud, Lu Zhi has grasped raised oneself method truly. 洛新和洛辰都忍不住叫好,吕雉已经掌握了真正抬高自己的方法。 That commends the opponent, the opponent is stronger, is stronger as the victor, more disparages the opponent, is appears defeats his to be small and weak. 那就是称赞对手,对手越强,作为战胜者才越强,越是贬低对手,就越是显得战胜他的自己弱小。 Did Xiang Yu the soldier lord like Chi You, that defeat Xiang Yu's Liu Bang? 项羽是像蚩尤一样的兵主,那战胜了项羽的刘邦呢？ Naturally was the Yan and Huang two emperor same Saint kings of! 自然就是炎黄二帝一样的圣王了！ Chu people about the Xiang Yu lofty position will be excited, naturally will maintain the present system, when dozens over a hundred years later, fused thoroughly. 楚人对于项羽崇高的地位会感到振奋,自然而然的就会维护现在的汉廷体系,等到数十上百年之后,也就彻底融合了。 This means will not have made Liu Bang's position be challenged, even also because of Xiang Yu's promotion but promoted automatically. 这个办法还不会让刘邦的地位遭受挑战,甚至还因为项羽的升格而自动升格了。 Lu Zhi more wants more to feel wonderful, looking at Luo Chen is looking like saw that a treasure is the same, merely is the conversation in short time, this young master Chen benefitted greatly by oneself. 吕雉越想越觉得妙,望着洛辰就像是见到一个宝贝一样,仅仅是短短时间之内的交谈,这位公子辰就让自己受益匪浅。 Really does not know that in this young master Chen mind also many wonderful ideas, really want to lift to have a look directly. 真不知道这位公子辰脑海之中还有多少奇思妙想,真是想要直接掀开看看啊。 - -- Who King ​of Qin toward is bigger to the All Xia universal contributions with the man (Han) dynasty, until now the numerous said the numerous altars/jars, the author favors the man (Han) dynasty, because in the other civilized areas of the world, has toward the short unified political power like King ​of Qin, but looked like man (Han) dynasty aspects to complete ideologically the universal dynasties, was unique.- «man (Han) Dynasty Rise and fall History» 秦王朝和汉王朝到底谁对诸夏大一统的贡献更大,一直以来众说纷坛,笔者更加倾向于汉王朝,因为在世界的其他文明地区,像秦王朝这样短暂统一的政权是有的,但是像汉王朝这种方方面面完成了思想上大一统的王朝,是绝无仅有的。-《汉王朝兴衰史》 ( This chapter ends) (本章完)