Chapter 276 countries comprising China in feudal times emperor and Han Dynasty emperor 第276章诸夏天子和汉朝皇帝 Saw with own eyes that during the main hall because of the words of big brother fell into suddenly was silent, knows that should be comes the active atmosphere. 眼见大殿之中陡然之间因为大兄的话而陷入了静默之中,洛亦知道该是自己来活跃气氛了。 „Your majesty, since the ancient times, has the merit unable to obtain to reward, has the mistake unable to obtain to punish, this is the root of cholera, illustrious Duke goes to the prairie, makes the great merit, should obtain to seal/confer bestows.” “陛下,自古以来,有功劳得不到赏赐,有过错得不到惩罚,这都是霍乱的根源,昭公前往草原,立下大功,理应得到封赏。” Liu Bang grateful looked at, worthily is the trusted aide high-ranking court official who most trust, forever knows oneself want anything, needs anything. 刘邦感激的望了一眼洛亦,不愧是自己最信任的心腹重臣,永远知道自己想要什么,需要什么。 Sometimes, the king hopes that you can want the advantage. 有时候,君王就希望你能要好处。 For example now, Liu Bang whole person already by tomb that aura that extinguishes the world did ignorant/veiled, did not know to do, before prepared the good excuse to stop up in the throat. 比如说现在,刘邦整个人已经被洛陵那股灭世的气息搞蒙了,不知道该干什么,之前准备好的说辞全堵在了嗓子眼里。 The also two words reminded Liu Bang, but also is staring doing, hurried to prepare good rewarding to take before. 洛亦两句话就点醒了刘邦,还愣着干什么,赶紧把之前准备好的赏赐拿出来啊。 Pounded the illustrious city not to finish up my big brother, had something, when for these years he had spoken a few words. 把我大兄砸回昭城不就完事了,有什么可慌的,这几年他什么时候说过一句话啊。 Liu Bang is preparing to say anything, thinks and stops saying: „Illustrious Duke is the heaven awarded, he is not the official of guy, what appearance should We with reward illustrious Duke?” 刘邦正准备说什么,想了想又止住说道:“昭公是上天所封赐的,他不是大汉的臣子啊,朕应该用什么样的面目来赏赐昭公呢？” Also said: „Your majesty, you are not only the emperor of guy, is the emperor in countries comprising China in feudal times, illustrious Duke, although is not the man (Han) feudal official, is actually the person of countries comprising China in feudal times, under the day, the emperor most reveres.” 洛亦说道:“陛下,您不仅仅是大汉的皇帝,还是诸夏的天子,昭公虽然不是汉臣,却是诸夏之人,天之下,天子最尊。” The tomb eyeground had a happy expression, his some have not thought that will also ride this opportunity to promote the concept of countries comprising China in feudal times unexpectedly again, construction in dynasty above. 洛陵眼底出现了一丝笑意,他也有些没想到洛亦竟然会乘着这个机会将诸夏的概念再次升格,架构在了王朝以上。 Although now is also only an attempt, so long as there is a precedent, in the future can advance gradually. 虽然现在还只是一个尝试,但只要有先例,日后就能缓步推进。 flatter also has the progress. 阿亦有长进啊。 In Liu Bang heart is somewhat strange, he does not play the academic monarchy, to these concept classes thing not too strong intuitions. 刘邦心中有些奇怪,他不是玩学术的君主,对这些概念类的东西没有太强的直觉。 Why although somewhat is strange also to the emperor and emperor these two one thing separates, but since also said that he naturally believes. 虽然有些奇怪为什么洛亦要将皇帝和天子这两个一样的东西分开,但既然洛亦这么说了,他自然就相信。 Therefore said joyfully: „ Illustrious Duke, you stem from Roche, if rewards to you gold and silver, that thinks that is to your one insult. 于是欣然道:“昭公,您出自洛氏,如果赏赐给您金银,那想必是对您的一种侮辱。 As for senior official high rank, in this world again not compared with your illustrious Duke position more honored title. 至于高官显爵,这世上再也没有比您的昭公之位更加尊贵的爵位了。 We think it over, the human world does not have to be able with the position that you match. 朕思来想去,人间已经没有了能够和您相匹配的位置。 Some when first day jade for We spoke the ancient history the time has said that Saint king Xianchen of antiquity have both person and the status of god, looked like assists the wind uncle rain master of Yellow Emperor to be the same. 前些时日子玉为朕讲上古史的时候说过,上古的圣王贤臣都是兼具人和神的身份,就像是辅佐黄帝的风伯雨师一样。 The child jade added that the emperor of antiquity can for ten thousand spirit to seal/confer God in world, is as for the virtuous feudal official star, can be shown. 子玉还说上古的天子可以为世间的万灵封神,乃至于贤臣名将,都能够得到彰显。 You are remarkable above the prairie, the honored god position can match with you. 您在草原之上大显神威,只有尊贵的神位才能够与您相配。 When the Saint king who We am willing to imitate the antiquity, confers four gods for you, is with the mountains rivers and stars god, enjoys the sacrificial offering of imperial family as well as world person. ” 朕愿意效仿上古的圣王,为您册封四时之神,与山川河流和日月星辰之神所同属,享受皇室以及天下之人的祭祀。” The whole body of ministers expression in palace is numb. 殿中的群臣表情已经麻木了。 We also here diligent is thinking again upward one step in the title of the world, others illustrious Duke have started to confer the Spiritual God. 我们还在这里孜孜不倦的想着在人间的爵位上再往上一步,人家昭公都已经开始册封神灵了。 This disparity was also too big. 这差距也太大了。 Initially Han Xin was sealed three lords of ten thousand households time they not such sigh with emotion. 当初韩信受封三万户侯的时候他们都没有这么感慨过。 Although this is only a brevet rank, cannot bring any substantive power. 虽然这只是一个虚衔,不能带来任何的实质权力。 But the issue is, that is an god position! 但问题是,那可是神位啊！ Has god position that the emperor sealed, is not only own descendants can the sacrificial offering, but is anybody can sacrificial offering. 有了天子亲封的神位,就不仅仅是自己的子孙能够祭祀,而是任何人都能够祭祀自己。 A lot of years later, even if the heir cuts off, has the incense and candle to last forever in the human world as before, this regarding the person of this time is very important. 千百年后,就算是子嗣断绝,依旧有香火在人间永存,这对于这个时代的人来说可是很重要的。 The tomb understands Liu Bang to oneself this living the person confers the god position, naturally for by oneself calm and steady treating in illustrious city. 洛陵明白刘邦给自己这个活着的人册封神位,自然是为了让自己安安稳稳的待在昭城。 However in this world anything will have the inestimable influence on the future, to living person, because the merit confers the god position is not a minor matter. 但是这世上任何事情都会对未来造成不可估量的影响,给活人因为功劳册封神位不是一件小事。 What will this cause to affect to the future? 这会对未来造成什么影响呢？ Can present this matter become an unspoken rule in the future. 会不会现在这件事往后就会成为一种潜规则。 Later these do not have to seal, enjoys not to have the person who may enjoy, will be conferred an god position, then leaves the human world? 以后那些封无可封,赏无可赏的人,都会被册封一个神位,然后离开人间呢？ Outside the philosophers temple, is difficult to be inadequate must open an ancestral temple again, specifically is used to consecrate these to make the official military commander of major contributions? 诸子圣殿之外,难不成还要再开一座宗庙,专门用来供奉那些做出过重大贡献的文臣武将吗？ Pantheon? ten thousand Shengong? 万神殿？万神宫？ Saint tomb? 圣陵？ According to the emperor temple constructs, temple of Confucian learning or Wu Temple? 还是按照天子庙来修建,文庙还是武庙？ The tomb presses down in the heart temporarily these disorderly trains of thought that first is salutes to thank Liu Bang, then said: „Emperor, the tomb has the incident to request.” 洛陵暂时按下心中这些杂乱的思绪,先是行礼感谢刘邦,然后转而说道:“天子,陵有一事相求。” To Liu Bang, the present tomb said that anything is good, so long as leaves appears in world again, therefore said hastily: „Illustrious Duke please say.” 对刘邦来说,现在的洛陵说什么都行,只要别再出现在世间就可以,于是连忙说道:“昭公您请说。” The tomb therefore said: „Emperor, since the ancient times, the emperor resides in the world center, then the feudal lord surrounds and protects the emperor as the bamboo fence, three generations so, you know why none who does not this is?” 洛陵于是说道:“天子,自古以来,天子居于天下的正中,然后诸侯作为藩篱拱卫天子,三代莫不如此,您知道这是为何吗？” Liu Bang somewhat cannot feel the mind, but also thinks that is the tomb reduces to him different is dissatisfied surnamed Wang, slow of speech did not say, knows certainly that was not this, therefore said: „Also please illustrious Duke dispel doubt for your majesty.” 刘邦有些摸不着头脑,还以为是洛陵对他削减异姓王感到不满,讷讷不言,洛亦当然知道不是这样,于是说道:“还请昭公您为陛下解惑。” The tomb said: „Emperor, if Qiongzhou is the land of guy now, Qiongzhou has the rebellion, where you must mobilize soldiers, how long do you want to arrive?” 洛陵说道:“天子,若是现在琼州属于大汉的土地,琼州有叛乱,您要从哪里调兵,您要多久才能到达呢？” Liu Bang hears word has some features, in the heart relaxed, thinks deeply about evil ways: „If Chu cannot still, that best naturally mobilizes soldiers from pass, if since Chu attacked, perhaps needed a half year, if embarked from pass, perhaps needed one year to enter Qiongzhou.” 刘邦闻言已经有了一些眉目,心中放松,思索一下道:“若是楚国不能平定,那最好的自然是从关中调兵,若是从楚国进攻,恐怕要半年,若是从关中出发,恐怕要一年才能进入琼州了。” At this point, Liu Bang this smart person, has known the Dallo tomb to say anything, was too far! 说到这里,刘邦这种聪明人,已经知道洛陵要说什么了,太远了！ The tomb sighed: „ Emperor resides in the world center, because the emperor can only control that part, only solution is the straight say/way of construction general nation. 洛陵叹息道:“天子居于天下的正中,正是因为天子只能控制那一部分,唯一解决的办法就是修建通行全国的直道。 This is the tomb the place of sigh beginning emperor, he is talented, the straight say/way that Qin constructed was necessary. 这正是陵所叹息始皇帝的地方,他是有才能的,秦王朝所修建的直道是必要的。 But he biggest mistake is, should not reassign the person of the world to construct in just several years. 但他最大的错就是,不该在短短数年之内抽调天下之人去修建。 If divided into for dozens years to construct these projects, Qin short more than ten years will perish? ” 若是将那些工程分成数十年来修建,难道秦王朝会短短十几年就灭亡吗？” Liu Bang asked: „Illustrious Duke, even constructed said that but the distance of Qiongzhou, was really ends of the earth, if there is a rebellion, often mobilized soldiers, spends greatly.” 刘邦问道:“昭公,即便是修建了直道,但是琼州之偏远,实在是天涯海角了,若有叛乱,每每调兵,所费巨大啊。” Liu Bang is not that craving greatness and success emperor, he always very practical, without the matter of advantage he not for a face will do. 刘邦不是那种好大喜功的皇帝,他一向都非常的实用,没好处的事情他是不会为了一点面子就去做的。 The tomb said with a smile: „ This was the tomb must say that before 1000, the uncrowned king commanded the army to make an expedition to the east, that time countries comprising China in feudal times everywhere were the forest lake, does the path rugged difficult line, where seem like currently has the path of extending in all directions like this? 洛陵笑道:“这正是陵要说的,一千年之前,素王率军东征,那时的诸夏到处都是森林湖泊,道路崎岖难行,哪里像是现在这样有四通八达的道路呢？ In such environment, the uncrowned king drives away the barbarian walks into the mountain, to the Eastern end, the uncrowned king sighed with emotion: ‚When I died to pass, perhaps no one can command troops to arrive was so far’, must establish the feudal lord here, resisted the barbarian by the feudal lord for the emperor. 就在这样的环境之中,素王一路将蛮夷驱赶进山间,到了东方的尽头,素王就感慨道:‘等到我薨逝了,恐怕就再也没有人能率兵来到这么远了’,应当在这里设置诸侯,由诸侯为天子抵御蛮夷。 Therefore the feudal lord founds a nation, subjugates the barbarian to need, all from the local area, the emperor sat in Gaojing, Chuigong, but the world governed. 于是诸侯就地建国,征讨蛮夷所需,皆从本地所出,天子坐于镐京,垂拱而天下治。 Now you establish the capital in pass, in fact Shandong many lands have been able to be directly, this is you know. 现在您定都关中,实际上山东很多的土地已经可以直辖,这是您所知晓的。 However have you thought to the area of south? 但是您想没想过更向南的地区呢？ Such as perhaps Lingnan, within several hundred years, you are not willing to stride in that region. ” 诸如岭南,恐怕数百年之内,您都不愿意跨入那片地域吧。” These words may really cut into Liu Bang's innermost feelings, Lingnan that situation he is not really willing to go, gives in vain does not want, was the malaria was too serious, in the past will even possibly die. 这句话可真是切入刘邦的内心之中,岭南那地步他是真的不愿意去,白送都不想要,实在是瘴气太严重了,过去了甚至可能会死。 When Liu Bang remembers extinguished Qin, the tomb once went to Lingnan to convince Zhao Tuo to stay in Lingnan, he knows Dallo tomb this is must take a throne for Zhao Tuo, therefore asked: „ Are you want Us to confer the title of King upon for Zhao Tuo? 刘邦想起了灭秦之时,洛陵曾经前往岭南说服赵佗留在岭南,他知道洛陵这是要为赵佗要一个王位,于是问道:“您是想要朕为赵佗封王吗？ However perhaps Zhao Tuo does not want, he looks like the emperor to be the same in Lingnan, why can accept conferring rank and title of Central Plain dynasty? ” 但是赵佗恐怕不愿意啊,他在岭南就像是皇帝一样,为什么要接受中原王朝的册封呢？” In the tomb eye brings the light, bright sound said: „Emperor does not need to worry, if Zhao Tuo does not want, the tomb then walks again one time toward Lingnan, his meeting little darling is obedient.” 洛陵眼中带着光,朗声道:“天子不必担心,若是赵佗不愿意,陵便再往岭南走一遭,他会乖乖听话的。” The sound is very light, but is very overbearing, Liu Bang shakes, in heart secretly thought/passage: My this guy emperors do not dare to provoke, only Zhao Tuo naturally does not dare. 声音很平淡,但是却很是霸道,刘邦一震,心中暗道:我这个大汉皇帝都不敢招惹,区区一个赵佗自然更不敢了。 Also heard the tomb saying: „ What Zhao Tuo establishes is the country of countries comprising China in feudal times, but you are the emperor in countries comprising China in feudal times, the emperor only have one, therefore he must submit to you. 又听到洛陵说:“赵佗建立的是诸夏之国,而您是诸夏的天子,天子只有一位,所以他必须臣服于您。 The emperor of man (Han) dynasty can not rule Lingnan, but the emperor must rule all countries of countries comprising China in feudal times, looks like the feudal lords of nation week to accept enfeoffment of emperor. 汉王朝的皇帝可以不统治岭南,但是天子必须统治诸夏的所有国家,就像是邦周的诸侯都要接受天子的分封。 Even ZhaoWei Han's such rebelling, must pass through the gold/metal imperial seal imperial edict and gold/metal of book emperor, can become the honored feudal lord. 即便是赵魏韩这样的悖逆,也要经过天子的金玺诏书和金册,才能成为尊贵的诸侯。 If Zhao Tuo is not willing to accept to confer rank and title, that alienates oneself in the countries comprising China in feudal times, thinks the barbarian, the world must defeat him together. ” 赵佗若是不愿意接受册封,那就是自绝于诸夏,自认为蛮夷,天下应当共同击破他。” Also hears word could not bear look at big brother one eyes, really worthily was the big brother, a few words guessed correctly own intention merely, moreover can use it within the short time. 洛亦闻言忍不住望了大兄一眼,真不愧是大兄啊,仅仅一句话就猜出了自己的用意,而且还能在短短时间之内就化而用之。 Liu Bang this is the profound feeling between both was different, „the meaning of illustrious geographical unit of government word is, causes Zhao Tuo as the border regions, worships Us?” 刘邦这一下是深刻的感受到两者之间的不同了,“昭公所言的意思是,使赵佗作为外藩,来朝拜朕吗？” When week dynasty has in imperial domain outside the feudal lord and imperial domain the difference of feudal lord, under the actual heaven never has something new, the center can control takes in imperial domain, could not control was outside imperial domain. 周王朝时有畿内诸侯和畿外诸侯的区别,实际上天下从来没有新鲜事,中央能控制的就作为畿内,控制不了的就是畿外。 various king who now Liu Bang enfeoffs is outside imperial domain, Hou Guo who these accept the jurisdiction is in imperial domain, but Zhao Tuo outside the feudal lord in surrounding compared with imperial domain, even was not the sequence of man (Han) dynasty. 现在刘邦分封的诸王就是畿外,那些接受管辖的侯国则是畿内,而赵佗是比畿外更外围的一圈诸侯,甚至还不属于汉王朝的序列。 „!” “正是！” The tomb nods, Liu Bang thought slightly, discovered that this does not have the least bit harm to the guy, even if there is a harm he not to dare to refute, therefore said immediately: „Defers to the illustrious geographical unit of government word, seals the Lingnan king for Zhao Tuo.” 洛陵点点头,刘邦稍微思索了一下,发现这对大汉没有半点害处,就算有害处他也不敢反驳啊,于是立即说道:“就依照昭公所言,为赵佗加封岭南王。” The banquet in the tomb expressed oneself must return to the illustrious city under the warm atmosphere that continues to write books to finish, Liu Bang is moved to tears, paid so many prices, finally sent off this big god. 宴会在洛陵表示自己要回昭城继续著书的热烈氛围下结束了,刘邦热泪盈眶,付出了那么多的代价,终于把这位大神送走了。 Once the tomb leaves, the world as if returned to the original that appearance instantaneously, above the deliberation hall starts the fierce combat to get up again, facing the innumerable turbulent undercurrents, Liu Bang is actually somewhat enchanted by, compares facing the powerless feeling of tomb, this he quite familiar struggle is better to cope. 一旦洛陵离开,天下仿佛瞬间就回到了原来的那个样子,朝堂之上再次开始刀光剑影起来,面对无数汹涌的暗流,刘邦竟然有些迷醉,相比面对洛陵的无力感,还是这种他比较熟悉的斗争更好对付。 He looked at brave arrange/cloth, in feudal lord king who he enfeoffed strongest, was not most law-abiding one. 他将目光投向了英布,他所分封的诸侯王之中最强的一个,同时也是最不安分的一个。 At this time, the carriage, the boat ship, came out from Luo Village. 这时,有一辆马车,有一艘舟船,从洛村出来了。 West of pass, family/home second child is bringing the map, goes toward the unknown western region. 在关中以西,洛家老二正带着地图,往未知的西域而去。 - -- Before week dynasty, we once told „king” the lowering standards process of this title, it with „emperor” peeling, is becoming a title in fact. 在前篇的周王朝篇,我们曾经讲述了“王”这个称号的降格过程,它与“天子”剥离,在实质上成为了一种爵位。 Until it was replaced by „emperor”, lost the title function of imperator thoroughly, but „emperor” after the man (Han) dynasty establishes, met the similar bitter experience quickly, situated in „emperor” under. 直到它被“皇帝”取代,彻底失去了最高统治者的称谓作用,但“皇帝”在汉王朝建立之后,很快遇到了相似的遭遇,位于“天子”之下。 The primary cause is, with „” dynasty that „emperor” contacts is political entities, but what contacts with „emperor” is „countries comprising China in feudal times” is the concept of having the civilization, but the civilization can extend, obviously strong can affect in the political entities. 主要原因在于,与“皇帝”相联系的“王朝”是一个政治实体,而与“天子”相联系的是“诸夏”是一个带着文明的概念,而文明所能延伸的,明显强于政治实体所能影响的。 This is not only the change that called, it also affected the construction of ancient China dynasty power system profoundly.- «Ancient times Dynasty Aristocrat Institution analysis» 这不仅仅是称呼上的变化,它还深刻的影响了中国古代王朝权力制度的构建。-《古代王朝贵族制度分析》 Starts to take off, has thought that constructed one political system to play 开始起飞,早就想自己构建一套政治制度玩了 ( This chapter ends) (本章完)