ATS :: Volume #19

#69: Zhuang and Yang dispute of Dao


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Supreme Ultimate Star! The say/way struggles the stage! 太极星!道争台! Zhuangzi and Yang Zhu opposition sits, looks each other. Two people of Great Dao Sea draws shops open, the sound reaches under the Heavens, the person of under the Heavens completely all listens, listens attentively to the theories of these two big Daoism giants to say. 庄子杨朱对立而坐,看着彼此。二人大道海铺而开,声达天下,天下之人尽皆竖耳倾听,倾听这两大道家巨擘的论道。 Yang Zhu deeply inspires, takes the lead to open the mouth. 杨朱深吸一口气,率先开口。 In years past, I got the disciple to go to Song State , lived in an inn, the shop owner had two to wait on the concubine, was good-looking, was much longer, what is strange, waits on the concubine position uglily actually above the pretty waiting on concubine, why I inquired the shop owner. “昔年,我领弟子前往宋国,住一家客店,店主有两个侍妾,一个长得漂亮,一个长得丑陋,奇怪的是,丑陋的侍妾地位却在漂亮的侍妾之上,我就询问店主何故。 The shop owners said: Attractive thinks attractively, does not know enterprisingly, being together time grew, I looked a lot, already forgot her attractiveness. Under ugly modest courteous, moreover ugly is inborn, looked were many, my also already forgot her ugliness. The time of life was long, my already does not care about beautiful to be ugly, only cares about the personal character! virtue thick modest under courteous, naturally makes me regard as important. 店主说:‘漂亮的自认为漂亮,不知进取,相处时间长了,我看得多了,已经忘记了她的漂亮。丑陋的谦下有礼,况且丑陋乃是天生的,看的多了,我也已经忘记了她的丑陋。生活的时间久了,我已经不在乎美丑,只在乎品德!德厚谦下有礼者,自然更让我看重’。 After I listen , the feelings are profound, therefore warned the student: You must remember, energetically put into practice the virtuous behavior to remove thinks the arrogant consciousness of virtuous behavior, where to will obtain the love and respect of people!’Yang Zhu serious is telling a fable story. 我听后感触深刻,于是告诫学生:‘你们要记住了,力行贤德而去掉自以为贤德的傲慢意识,到哪都会得到人们的爱戴和敬重!’”杨朱郑重的讲着一个寓言故事。 The story is simple, is actually passing a philosophy, causes under the Heavens countless people to nod instantaneously. Obviously, Yang Zhu can become the Laozi/father disciple, is not straw bag one, on the contrary, has the oneself strong knowledge ability. 故事简单,却透着一股哲理,瞬间引得天下无数人点了点头。显然,杨朱能成为老子的弟子,并非草包一个,相反,有着自己强大的学识能力。 This must say for me today, is Daoism that Laozi/father described in the past, the body heavy item is light, only then enhances the oneself training, making most essential oneself precious, these external objects, are unimportant, the appearance, family, wealth wait/etc, is the floating clouds, my Daoism disciple, when needs expensive/noble oneself! Expensive oneself, the myriad things all may be light! This is I must today to expensive/noble oneself theory that’ everyone said that asking under the Heavens to reflect it!” Yang Zhu opens the mouth to say again. “此为我今日要讲,也是老子当年所描述的道家,身重物轻,只有提高自己修养,让最本质的自己贵重起来,那些外物,都是不重要的,外貌、家庭、钱财等等,都是浮云,我道家弟子,当需贵己!贵己者,万物皆可轻!这就是今日我要给大家所说的‘贵己论’,请天下共鉴之!”杨朱再度开口道。 A Yang Zhu introduction, caused countless people to nod immediately. 杨朱一个开篇,顿时引得无数人点头了起来。 Opposite Zhuangzi is staring at Yang Zhu, the hesitation moment, shakes the head: „ Expensive oneself, is a boundary of self- understanding, is independent beyond the numerous thing, actually audience fetters, if no myriad things to serve as contrast, what Laiqing expensive/noble division? 对面的庄子盯着杨朱,沉吟片刻,摇了摇头:“贵己者,是一番自我认识的境界,让人独立于众物之外,却又受众物羁绊,若无万物衬托,何来轻贵之分? Expensive oneself, first light thing! Doesn't have light of thing, expensive/noble of what Laiji? 贵己,先轻物!无物之轻,何来己之贵? Should He Laishun Laozi/father describe Daoism? 何来顺应老子所描述道家 Laozi/father said Daoism, when was Heavenly Dao is the Nature! 老子所言道家,当为天道自然 Expensive oneself, might as well forget oneself! 贵己,不如忘己! While thing, but by heart, alone and Heaven and Earth but contact. 乘物而由心,独与天地而往来。 Forgets oneself, must forget that the success and failure of reality, forgot myriad things light expensive/noble, jumps the broken name and advantage, can achieve the thing along with oneself heart! ” Zhuangzi opens the mouth to say. 忘己,需忘记现实之得失,忘记万物之轻贵,跳破名与利,方能做到物随己心!”庄子开口道。 The expensive/noble oneself light thing, forgets oneself as one desires! 贵己轻物,忘己随心! Immediately, two people discussed to start, two thought that dashed immediately. 顿时,两人论道开始,两种思想,顿时冲撞而起。 under the Heavens countless people also calm the mind to listen. 天下无数人也静心听着。 Because, this theory said, no one can determine who is wrong who is right. Why hundred do contend? Is the respective thought has the huge truth, but actually cannot representative all. Must struggle a contention. 因为,这种论道,没人可以确定谁错谁对。百家为何争鸣?就是各自的思想都存在天大的道理,可却不能代表一切。需争道争鸣。 Zhuangzi and Yang Zhu, were so, just started at this moment, on already intense. 庄子杨朱,此刻就是如此,刚开始,就已经激烈了起来。 A person said, a person said debates. 一人说道,一人说辩。 Forgets oneself? Forgets oneself to lose oneself, loses, there is what using? This that you said forgets oneself, does not exist!” Yang Zhu said coldly. “忘己?忘己就会失己,失去自我,又有何用?你说的这忘己,根本不存在!”杨朱冷声道 Is your boundary is insufficient, how can not exist? Can you know the honorable person? My Great Grandmaster, speaks the honorable person, human, forgets oneself as one desires!” Zhuangzi opens the mouth to say. “是你境界不够,怎么能是不存在?你可知真人?我之大宗师,就是讲真人,真人者,忘己随心!”庄子开口道。 Great Grandmaster? Spoke the honorable person specially? You comprehend many years of Great Grandmaster, to debate my theory? , I also want to listen, your what fallacies and absurdities, can debate me!” Yang Zhu looks indifferently to Zhuangzi. 大宗师?专讲真人?你参悟多年的大宗师,就是为了辩我之论?,我也想听听,你的什么歪理邪说,能辩我!”杨朱冷眼看向庄子 Knows a day of behavior, knows person of behavior, to! ......... What honorable person? The honorable person of ancient, not counter widowed, not male becomes, non- plan gentleman ............ The honorable people of ancient ............! “知天之所为,知人之所为者,至矣!………。何谓真人?古之真人,不逆寡,不雄成,不谟士…………。古之真人…………! Dies to live, life ; It has a night of day often, day. The person have not to with, all the sentiment of thing. Pitt takes day as the father, but body sorrow loves it, much less his outstanding! The people take some Monarch as to recover oneself especially, but the body still dies it, much less its real! ” 死生,命也;其有夜旦之常,天也。人之有所不得与,皆物之情也。彼特以天为父,而身忧爱之,而况其卓乎!人特以有君为愈乎己,而身犹死之,而况其真乎!” Zhuangzi introduction Great Grandmaster, described in an ideal honorable person, the honorable person can achieve day person not to divide, thus honorable person can achieve no one and altruism and to forget oneself, the mental outlook of honorable person, is the visualization of "Dao". 庄子开篇大宗师,就描述了一个理想中的‘真人’,真人能做到‘天’‘人’不分,因而‘真人’能做到‘无人’、‘无我’、‘忘己’,真人的精神境界,就是‘道’的形象化。 Under the Great Grandmaster introduction, on Zhuangzi Great Dao Sea, the instantaneous surges, countless people have not been able to comprehend the boundary that Zhuangzi said that but, although comprehension, but change of its Great Dao Sea, can see. 大宗师的开篇之下,庄子大道海上,瞬间翻腾而起,无数人还不能领悟庄子所说的境界,但,虽然领悟不了,可其大道海的变化,还是能看见的啊。 On Great Dao Sea of billowing surges, condensed a fuzzy form gradually. 滚滚翻腾的大道海上,渐渐凝聚了一个模模糊糊的身影。 That fuzzy form, is an image of say/way, the appearance of representative Daoism leader is ordinary. 那模模糊糊的身影,就是一个道的形象,代表道家领袖的模样一般。 By the forming, does Zhuangzi decide the Daoism leader by honorable person? 以道成形,庄子以‘真人’定道家领袖? The Yang Zhu complexion sinks, knows that cannot delay again. 杨朱脸色一沉,知道不能再耽搁了。 Expensive oneself discussed that the person was not oneself, the condemned by heaven and earth! The person are oneself, perfectly justified! For oneself, becomes Heavenly Dao is the Nature ............!” Yang Zhu opens the mouth to say. “贵己论,人不为己,天诛地灭!人之为己,天经地义!为己者,方成天道自然…………!”杨朱开口道。 Suddenly, the theory of Yang Zhu also resounds through under the Heavens loudly, its purple Great Dao Sea also continues in the surges. Indistinct, forms a Great Dao outline. 一时间,杨朱的理论也轰然响彻天下,其紫色大道海也在翻腾不止。隐约中,形成一个大道轮廓。 Arrived Yang Zhu and Zhuangzi this altitude, every word and deed, affected entire under the Heavens Daoism. 到了杨朱庄子这个高度,一言一行,都牵动了整个天下道家 Expensive oneself, forgets oneself, which is right, which is the Daoism highest boundary, no one knows, but, from the conflict of two people Great Dao Sea , two people standing said as can be seen, is quite splendid, fights relative. 贵己、忘己,哪个才是对的,哪个才是道家最高境界,没人知道,但,从两人大道海的冲突,可以看出,两人的立说,都极为精彩,更争锋相对之中。 The thought to certain boundary, is not, the average person who the average person can understand can do only, records it, then thinks slowly. 思想到了一定的境界,就不是普通人能理解的了,普通人唯一能做的,就是将其记录下来,回头慢慢想。 Above the major stars, can see is sky over Supreme Ultimate Star. The purple and black two Great Dao Sea, revolving, formed a Yin-Yang Fish design slowly, during each other fights. During also in expands slowly. 各大星辰之上,能看到的就是太极星上空。紫色、黑色两个大道海,缓缓旋转,形成了一个阴阳鱼的图案,在彼此争锋之中。同时也在慢慢扩大之中。 The under the Heavens Yang Zhu Academy disciple and Free and Unfettered Academy disciple, pinches tightly the fist, is waiting for the final outcome. 天下杨朱学宫弟子、逍遥学宫弟子,纷纷捏紧拳头,在等候最终结果。 Great Grandmaster spoke the honorable person, the honorable person ratio is row of stars, suddenly, this beyond the skies world, the innumerable stars shone, immediately gathers strength of the stars from the four directions, floods into Great Dao Sea. 大宗师讲了真人,将真人比为列星,一时间,这天外世界,无数星辰亮了起来,顿时从四方汇聚一股股星辰之力,涌入大道海中。 Bang!” “轰!” Immediately, Zhuangzi Great Dao Sea planned. 顿时,庄子大道海更甚一筹了。 Yang Zhu in the disadvantage, his Great Dao Sea was suppressed by Zhuangzi!” 杨朱处于劣势了,他的大道海庄子压制了!” „Can Yang Zhu lose?” 杨朱要输了吗?” Zhuangzi Great Dao, good terrifying!” 庄子大道,好恐怖!” ........................ …………………… .................. ……………… ...... …… Calls out in alarm from the four directions innumerably transmits. 无数惊呼从四方传来。 With continuation of Great Grandmaster, Yang Zhu expensive/noble oneself discussed that resists was getting more and more difficult. 随着大宗师的继续,杨朱的贵己论,抵挡的越来越艰难。 However, Yang Zhu at this moment, not depressed, on the contrary, Yang Zhu reveals an exciting color. 不过,此刻的杨朱,并没有沮丧,相反,杨朱露出一股兴奋之色。 Struggles the dead center of stage in the say/way that Yang Zhu and Zhuangzi are, seemed had a void crack, in that void crack, emitted the a trace silk the purple light. 就在杨朱庄子所在的道争台的正中心,好似出现了一道虚空裂缝,那虚空裂缝中,冒出一丝丝的紫光。 Meanwhile, that void crack seems has a suction, is pulling the sky Great Dao aura, seeming to Zhuangzi and Yang Zhu Great Dao Sea, pulls general. 同时,那虚空裂缝好似产生一股吸力,在拉扯着天空大道气息,好似要将庄子杨朱大道海,拉扯进去一般。 Well?” Zhuangzi stares slightly. “咦?”庄子微微一愣。 Position that good that I really guess, Dao and Virtue token induces, is here, big secret that in that void crack, conceals Laozi/father is leaving behind, but this big secret, needs the Zhuangzi Great Dao aura to open!” Yang Zhu reveals an exciting color. “我果然猜的不错,道德令牌感应到的位置,就是在这里,那虚空裂缝中,藏着老子留下的大秘密,而这大秘密,需要庄子大道气息才能打开!”杨朱露出一股兴奋之色。 Originally, Yang Zhu will struggle a location to decide here, for taking advantage of Zhuangzi Great Dao, opens the secret that this Laozi/father leaves behind. 原来,杨朱将争道场地定在这里,为的就是借庄子大道,打开这个老子留下的秘密。 Yang Zhu, what did you make?” The Zhuangzi complexion sinks. 杨朱,你做了什么?”庄子脸色一沉。 Opposite Yang Zhu is actually said with a sneer: I have not made anything, but, listens to your Zhuangzi Great Grandmaster, makes me satisfy that’s all!” 对面的杨朱却是冷笑道:“我没做什么,只是,听你庄子大宗师,非常让我满意罢了!” „It is not right, at this time in the spatial crack, definitely had thing, pulls my Great Dao Sea, seems is fusing what thing? Probably Laozi's Great Dao, most primitive Daoism Great Dao? In this, how......!” Zhuangzi knits the brows to say. “不对,这时空裂缝里面,肯定有东西,拉扯我的大道海,好似在融合什么东西?好像是老子的大道,最原始的道家大道?这里面,怎么……!”庄子皱眉道。 Not only your Great Dao Sea, my Great Dao Sea also went, I understood, in this is true Laozi's Great Dao, is Laozi/father leaves the later generation to cope with Ancient Shi Clan most basic Great Dao, fuses presenting of inside Laozi/father, is Laozi/father Daoism, some qualifications decide under the Heavens Dao Lineage!” In Yang Zhu eye a bright say/way. “不仅仅你的大道海,我的大道海也进去了,我明白了,这里面是真正老子的大道,也是老子留给后人对付古食族的最根本大道,融合里面老子的馈赠,才是老子道家,才有资格决定天下道统!”杨朱眼中一亮道。 What did you say?” The Zhuangzi brow selects. “你说什么?”庄子眉头一挑。 Great Grandmaster? Did not stand by one said, can the achievement, Laozi/father be true Great Grandmaster, but united with Laozi's Great Dao! Can inherit Laozi/father Daoism to be legitimate, in this, is Laozi's Great Dao, melts it, side for legitimate!” Yang Zhu said with a sneer. 大宗师?不是凭借一篇立说,就能成就的,老子才是真正的大宗师,而与老子的大道合一!才能继承老子道家正统,这里面,就是老子的大道,融之,方为正统!”杨朱冷笑道 Zhuangzi looks to Yang Zhu, reveals a trace to sneer: I do not know you said is right, but, I understand, now, your I struggle saying that no matter from the boundary, is in the mass, I surpassed you! Ok, your my Great Dao and Laozi's Great Dao unite, that is also I becomes legitimate!” 庄子看向杨朱,露出一丝冷笑:“我不知道你说的对不对,但,我明白,现在,你我争道,不管从境界上,还是体量上,我都超过了你!就算,你我大道老子的大道合一,那也是我成正统!” Your I struggle saying that if you won, indeed you for legitimate, but, if I did win?” Yang Zhu said with a sneer. “你我争道,若是你赢了,的确你为正统,可是,若是我赢了呢?”杨朱冷笑道 „Do you win? Ha, Hahaha, your expensive/noble oneself discussed that already was suppressed by my Great Grandmaster, did you win with what?” Zhuangzi said with a sneer. “你赢?哈,哈哈哈,你的贵己论,已经被我的大宗师压住了,你拿什么赢?”庄子冷笑道 Expensive oneself discussed that I said half, how you know, you did certainly win?” Yang Zhu proud say/way. “贵己论,我才说了一半,你怎么知道,你一定赢?”杨朱自傲道。 Oh?” ?” Expensive oneself discussed that the heavy oneself light thing, you had not discovered, Confucian School was also, heavy Human Dao, light Heavenly Dao?” Yang Zhu said with a smile. “贵己论,重己轻物,你没发现,儒家也是,重人道,轻天道吗?”杨朱笑道。 What did you say?” The Zhuangzi brow selects. “你说什么?”庄子眉头一挑。 Your forgetting oneself, is heavy Heavenly Dao, but light Human Dao, but my expensive/noble oneself, is heavy Human Dao, but light Heavenly Dao! Two opposition thought that but expensive/noble oneself , the through hole Confucian, Confucius takes the ritual as first, Humanity as the base, taking advantage of the theory of Kong Confucian, melts my expensive/noble oneself, I may have Confucius Confucian Dao, Great Dao White Tiger, may tear into shreds your Great Dao!” Yang Zhu cold snort/hum. “你的忘己,乃是重天道而轻人道,而我的贵己,乃是重人道而轻天道!两种对立思想,而贵己,又通孔儒,孔子以礼为先,以人为本,借孔儒之论,融我之贵己,吾可有孔子儒道,大道白虎,可撕碎你之大道!”杨朱一声冷哼。 Hǒu~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~!” 吼~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!” Sees, in Yang Zhu Great Dao Sea, emits dreadful White Tiger suddenly, White Tiger crazily howling, fierce throws toward Zhuangzi Great Dao Sea. 就看到,杨朱大道海中,陡然冒出一头滔天白虎,白虎狂啸,狰狞的向着庄子大道海扑来。 Meanwhile, the under the Heavens innumerable scholars completely all stare the big eye. 于此同时,天下无数学者尽皆瞪大眼睛。 Heavy Human Dao, light Heavenly Dao? Expensive oneself, Confucian School? This is how possible, can Yang Zhu also melt the own thought the Confucian School thought?” Countless people were startled to call out. “重人道,轻天道?贵己,儒家?这怎么可能,杨朱还能将儒家思想也融进自己的思想?”无数人惊叫道。 My Daoism, when all rivers run into sea, melts the Confucian School thought that why not? Zhuangzi, you want to suppress my Great Dao, only if tears into shreds my Great Dao White Tiger!” Yang Zhu said with a sneer. “我道家,当海纳百川,融儒家思想,有何不可?庄子,你想压制我的大道,除非将我之大道白虎撕碎!”杨朱冷笑道 Bang!” “轰!” Great Dao White Tiger breaks in Zhuangzi Great Dao Sea, the fierce impact, is tearing Zhuangzi Great Dao Sea unceasingly. 大道白虎冲入庄子大道海,凶猛冲击,不断撕扯着庄子大道海 In a flash, in Zhuangzi Great Dao Sea, departs the innumerable Great Dao butterflies, innumerable Great Dao Giant Peng, whatever actually White Tiger tears into shreds general, evades not to fight. 一瞬间,庄子大道海中,飞出无数大道蝴蝶,无数大道巨鹏,却任由白虎撕碎一般,避而不战。 Big advantage that just Zhuangzi was, vanished instantaneously. 刚刚庄子还处在的大优势,瞬间消失一空。 A Zhuangzi complexion ugliness. 庄子脸色一阵难看。 What kind of? To defeat me, must destroy my Great Dao White Tiger, with your Zhuangzi thought that the wrecking Confucius ruthlessly thought that destroyed the Confucius thought that you can win me, ha, Hahahahaha!” Yang Zhu self-satisfied laughing said. “怎么样?想要败我,必须摧毁我这大道白虎吧,用你的庄子思想,狠狠的击毁孔子的思想吧,毁了孔子思想,你才能赢我,哈,哈哈哈哈哈!”杨朱得意的大笑道。 Yang Zhu knows that Wang Xiong has passed through Confucius, thinks that found the Zhuangzi weakness, Zhuangzi, although does not know that with what means that stood firm Confucian School and Daoism thought as one, but, this definitely is during the one kind balance. Was not the Confucian School thought does not have. 杨朱知道王雄穿越过孔子,就自认为找到了庄子的弱点,庄子虽然不知用了什么办法,稳住了儒家道家思想于一体,但,这肯定处于一种平衡之中。并不是儒家思想没有了。 The thought that may not destroy! Only if death! 思想,是不可摧毁的!除非死! Let Zhuangzi destroy the Confucius thought that this is to make Wang Xiong commit suicide radically. 庄子摧毁孔子思想,这根本就是让王雄自杀啊。 Probably kills the right brain with the left brain, when the right brain died, breaks balanced, the left brain will also die. 就好像用左脑杀死右脑,当右脑死了,平衡打破,左脑也将死了。 If Zhuangzi cannot destroy Yang Zhu this Great Dao White Tiger, can only let the huge victory that oneself just obtained, surrenders something submissively. 庄子若不能摧毁杨朱大道白虎,只能让自己刚刚取得的巨大战果,拱手让人。 Recognizes instigates, admits defeat, making Yang Zhu gain the victory? 认怂,认输,让杨朱取得胜利? Hahahahaha!” During Yang Zhu laughs. 哈哈哈哈哈!”杨朱大笑之中。 This most crucial time, gives the most fatal blade, this is the easiest-to-use law of Zhuangzi weakness. 这最关键的时刻,给予最致命的一刀,这才是庄子弱点的最好用法。
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