ROEWR :: Volume #12

#1141: Collaboration of grassroots


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Reported the hall. 报告大厅。 Li Dong they come , many people have arrived. 李东他们进来的时候,已经有不少人到了。 Saw Li Dong several people, no matter the people know did not know, qualifications shallow setting out sent regards, seniority also signals by nodding. 见了李东几人,众人不管是认识的还是不认识的,资历浅的起身问候,资历深的也点头示意。 But various people seat, has arranged. 而诸人的座位,也早就安排好了。 Li Dong looked at an own data plate, then cannot bear look that said to horse Huateng: This position you arrange?” 李东看了一眼自己的铭牌,接着忍不住看向马华腾道:“这位置你们安排的吧?” horse Huateng innocent said: How is we to arrange, the association arranges.” 马华腾一脸无辜道:“怎么是我们安排的,协会安排的。” Is definitely related with you!” “肯定跟你有关!” Assured of Li Dongyi face, then spits the mortise: What meaning clamps me in the nag and Li Yan red among is, they hit later, making me try to break up a fight?” 李东一脸的笃定,接着便吐槽道:“把我夹在老马和李彦红中间是啥意思,他们俩待会打起来了,让我拉架吗?” Ha haha......” “哈哈哈……” Many people laugh loudly, horse Huateng cannot bear say with a smile: Relax, the nag does not dare to begin, Yan is red, the nag rather spurts him with the saliva, will not begin to look to punch.” 不少人放声大笑,马华腾也忍不住笑道:“放心,老马不敢动手的,彦红年轻力壮,老马宁愿用口水喷他,也不会动手找揍。” That but actually is also, they really must hit, I all give to take down, cannot hit.” “那倒也是,他俩真要打起来,我全都给放倒,也打不起来。” The people laugh in spite of trying not to again, suddenly, in the lecture hall is the happy talks and laughters. 众人再次失笑,一时间,报告厅中全是欢声笑语。 ...... …… Because from opening ceremony time shortly , the reporters of Tencent want to interview under Li Dongyi actually, but other Du Anmin several people came, Li Dong does not have the time and reporter boasts. 因为距离开幕式时间不久,腾讯的记者倒是想采访李东一下,不过等杜安民几人来了,李东也没时间和记者吹牛皮。 Du Anmin is not a person, minister of Ministry of Industry, director of Internet Society, the directors of country new office...... 杜安民不是一个人到的,还有工信部的部长,互联网协会的理事长,国新办的主任…… These officials, are together. 这些官方人员,都是一起到的。 Today Du Anmin is not a lead, he is audits, truly with the Internet industry related big shot is the eldest child of Ministry of Industry. 今天杜安民不是主角,他是来旁听的,真正和互联网行业相关的大佬是工信部的老大。 Minister stretch/open and Du Anmin smalltalk several, then sat the seat of honor. 张部长和杜安民客套了几句,便坐到了主位。 Du Anmin position, is not far from Li Dong, but both sides have not exchanged. 杜安民的位置,距离李东也不算远,不过双方并未进行交流。 As the host mounts the stage, the people take a seat in abundance. 随着主持人上台,众人纷纷落座。 horse Yun and Li Yan also arrived red, sits down by Li Dong respectively. 马昀和李彦红也都到了,在李东两侧分别坐下。 Their this group of people, sit in most front, this is also the custom, represents them in industry in position. 他们这群人,都坐在最前排,这也是规矩,代表他们在业内的地位。 The horse sunlight just sat down, first was Li Dong greeted one, separated spatial and Li Yan hong calls: Yan is red, later do you mount the stage to give the c2c speech?” 马昀这边刚坐下,先是和李东招呼了一声,就隔空和李彦红招呼道:“彦红,待会你上台做c2c演讲?” Li Yan hong said with a smile: Li Dong yields mutually, otherwise I did not come to power to reveal shortcomings.” 李彦红笑道:“还是李东相让,要不然我也不上台献丑了。” horse Yunshen is so said: „ Revealed shortcomings, your layman, mounts the stage to give the speech, isn't this farfetched? 马昀深以为然道:“是献丑了,你一个外行,上台做演讲,这不是驴唇不对马嘴吗? Conversion is I, I mount the stage embarrassed. ” 换成是我,我都不好意思上台。” Li Yan is not angry red, smiles saying: „ You also do have the embarrassed time? Who makes Ali strength weak, is not one's turn you to mount the stage and that's the end. 李彦红也不生气,笑眯眯道:“你还有不好意思的时候?谁让阿里实力弱呢,也轮不到你们上台就是了。 You have a look, Li Dong distant commercial city, exceeded your Taobao many a short time ago. 你看看,李东的远方商城,前不久超过你们淘宝多少。 Your b2b businesses, the stock price broke the wholesale price, said that the Internet cold winter came, was your winds causes. ” 你们的b2b业务,股价都跌破发行价了,都说互联网寒冬来了,都是你们这股风引起的。” „......” “……” These two mutually resentment, Li Dongjia in the middle, the helplessness of whole face. 这两人互怼,李东夹在中间,满脸的无奈。 Sees two people your one my one, helpless Li Dong said: Two, good? Minister stretch/open mounted the stage, does not become to the face, kicks up a racket again, your I all gave to hang to hit.” 见两人你一句我一句,李东无奈道:“二位,好了没?张部长上台了,给点面子成不,再吵吵,你俩我全都给吊打了。” Coughs......” “咳咳咳……” horse Yun and Li Yan hong look at each other one, then aims at Li Dong on the spearhead. 马昀和李彦红对视一眼,接着就矛头指向李东。 horse Yun said half jokingly: Yan is red, or we cooperate, first got rid of the distant place said again?” 马昀半开玩笑道:“彦红,要不咱俩合作一把,先把远方干掉再说?” Li Yan hong said with a smile: How distant place mediated us also to have the cooperation, did that is some are not good?” 李彦红笑道:“远方怎么说和我们也有合作,这么做是不是有些不好?” Resulted, you like collaborating jointly, my pair two, hang to hit in the same old way.” Li Dong spouted rhetoric, made two people looked at each other in blank dismay, did not have the thoughts to continue the resentment to get down. “得了,你们爱联手就联手,我一对二,照样吊打。”李东大放厥词,弄的两人面面相觑,也没心思继续怼下去了。 In addition Minister stretch/open is speaking, everyone also continues to be absent-minded embarrassed. 加上张部长这边在说话,大家也不好意思继续开小差。 Several people listened to one absent-mindedly, first is Minister stretch/open mounts the stage to give a speech, then Du Anmin was also simple to say several, director Academician reckless also spoke several. 几人心不在焉地听了一阵,先是张部长上台致辞,接着杜安民也简单上去说了几句,理事长胡院士也讲了几句。 This all of a sudden, in the past most hour. 这一下子,过去大半个小时了。 Until this time, host highly talented sound said: Then, making us welcome hundred degrees celsius chairman and chief executive officer Mr. Li Yan hong, does to open the speech for us!” 直到这时候,主持人才高声道:“接下来,让我们欢迎百度董事长、首席执行官李彦红先生,为我们做开幕演讲!” Li Yan hong reorganized a clothing, takes a step to walk toward the stage on. 李彦红整理了一下衣衫,迈步往台上走去。 ...... …… Under stage. 台下。 The horse sunlight lowers the sound saying: You guess, he can step on us later?” 马昀压低声音道:“你猜,他待会会不会踩我们?” Li Dong said with a smile: Near perfect, words saying that who makes your entire stand shield hundred degrees celsius, the made old Li psychology cannot withstand, wants to toss about.” 李东笑道:“八九不离十,话说谁让你们全站屏蔽百度,弄的老李心理承受不住,非要自己折腾。” This must ask he himself, we are also accept a challenge passively.” “这得问他自己,我们也是被动应战。” horse Yun shook the head had not said again, Taobao has shielded hundred degrees celsius now comprehensively, making hundred degrees celsius lose a large number of seller customers. 马昀摇头没再说,淘宝现在已经全面屏蔽百度,让百度流失了大量卖家客户。 Also bases on this, Li Yan hong must create own e-commerce platform with all one's heart, completes own e-commerce dream. 也正是基于此,李彦红才一门心思地要打造属于自己的电商平台,完成自己的电商梦。 Time that two people spoke, on the stage Li Yan hong has started to speak. 两人说话的工夫,台上李彦红已经开始演讲了。 „...... According to the investigation discovery, 65 nets buys the user now, has the understanding commodity information before the purchase through the search engine. “……根据调查发现,如今有65的网购用户,在购买前是通过搜索引擎来掌握了解商品信息。 the c2c user, is very big to the dependence of search engine. c2c的用户,对搜索引擎的依赖性很大。 A user to the c2c website, is actually not the commodity that he chooses, but is commercial relations. 一个用户到c2c网站,他选择的其实不是商品,而是一种商务关系。 But hundred degrees celsius, as Huaxia biggest search engine website, has the sufficient ability, provides this service for the user. 而百度,作为华夏最大的搜索引擎网站,就有足够的能力,为用户提供这种服务。 Many people said, now does not make the e-commerce the best time. 很多人都说,现在不是做电子商务的最好时候。 Some people said, first has Taobao, latter has the distant place, hundred degrees celsius participates again, to bring about own destruction? 有人说,前有淘宝,后有远方,百度再参与进来,岂不是自寻死路? But in my opinion, finally just the opposite! 而在我看来,结果恰恰相反! We make the e-commerce, the goal is not to make money, naturally, money-making is sooner or later matter. 我们做电子商务,目的不是为了赚钱,当然,赚钱是迟早的事。 I think what said that we more also lies to satisfying in the demand of user...... ” 我想的说的是,我们更多的还在于为了满足于用户的需求……” Today Ali's horse also in this, says words that sentence everyone is laughed. “今天阿里的马总也在这,说句大家见笑的话。 Takes the support with hundred degrees celsius, I felt, we in three years, can exceed Taobao, become Huaxia biggest c2c electronic business website...... ” 用百度作为支撑,我觉得,我们三年内,就可以超越淘宝,成为华夏最大的c2c电子商务网站……” ...... …… horse Yun maintains composure, Li Yan hong words, let him by the spotlight focus. 马昀不动声色,李彦红的话,让他被聚光灯聚焦。 However horse Yun does not care, but said in a low voice: This fellow, but also really said that how do you see?” 不过马昀也不在意,而是低声道:“这家伙,还真说了,你怎么看?” Don't even go there.” “没什么好说的。” Li Dong smiles, indeed, what can he say nothing more to be said? 李东笑了笑,的确没什么好说的,他能说什么? Also, what Li Yan red resentment is Taobao, he cares about this doing. 再说了,李彦红怼的是淘宝,他关心这个干嘛。 Finally him just said, Li Yan hong said again: „ Little while ago e-commerce promoted sales the war, everyone also knew, the distant commercial city instead surpassed Taobao, span was very big. 结果他这边刚说完,李彦红再度道:“前不久的电商促销大战,大家也都知道了,远方商城反超淘宝,跨越度很大。 Why can so? 为什么会如此? The reason lies in the search service of hundred degrees celsius, allowing the user to understand the distant commercial city. 原因就在于百度的搜索服务,让用户更加了解远方商城。 The distant commercial city has not shielded the search service of hundred degrees celsius, this is one of primary causes they succeed...... ” 远方商城没有屏蔽百度的搜索服务,这就是他们成功的主要原因之一……” On horse Yun the face smiles to blossom, teases: How now to say? You can win, is the merit of hundred degrees celsius, is this?” 马昀脸上笑开了花,打趣道:“现在怎么说?你们能赢,都是百度的功劳,是这样吗?” Li Dong gets angry saying: Before knows that you can blow, Li Yan red is not never expected that weak, Internet this line, few do not blow?” 李东黑着脸道:“以前就知道你能吹,没想到李彦红也不弱,互联网这一行,就没几个不吹的吗?” Where yourself also very to go.” “你自己也好不到哪去。” Two people chatted several in a low voice, on the stage Li Yan hong said with a smile suddenly: I looked that horse Yun and Li Dong talked in whispers under the stage, both of you had the words to say, can say two?” 两人低声聊了几句,台上李彦红忽然笑道:“我看马昀和李东在台下窃窃私语,你们俩是不是有话想说,要不要说两句?” The spotlight hit again, the staff also quickly handed over the microphone. 聚光灯再次打了过来,工作人员也急忙递上了话筒。 Li Dong looked at horse Yun, horse Yun looked at him, the good long time time, horse Yuncai said: You come, I am disinclined to attack him.” 李东看了看马昀,马昀看了看他,好半晌的工夫,马昀才道:“你来,我懒得打击他。” He also does not have the resentment I......” “他又没怼我……” Li Dong finishes barely the words, Li Yan hong said with a smile: Opportunity that „ Li Dong, our spiritual bond for a long time, what a pity had not exchanged directly. 李东话音未落,李彦红就笑道:“李东,咱们神交已久,可惜一直没有正面交流的机会。 That side the horse sunlight, I was tired, today wants to listen to your view actually. ” 马昀那边,我都听腻了,今天倒是想听听你的看法。” I?” “我?” Li Dongxiao saying with a smile: Such being the case, I did not say several, could not be justified simply.” 李东笑了笑道:“既然如此,那我不说几句,简直说不过去了。” Coughs lightly, Li Dong picks up the microphone to say slowly: „ Since is the Internet congress, the goal that everyone comes is the same, to promote the development of Internet industry well. 轻咳一声,李东拿起话筒缓缓道:“既然是互联网大会,大家来的目的都是同样的,为了更好地促进互联网产业的发展。 At this time, I told the truth, telling the truth, the place of offending also asked Yan to be red you to understand. ” 这时候,那我就有一说一,有二说二,得罪之处还请彦红你多理解。” Li Dong they, by this time, liked saying its, pours no one not to feel right. 李东他们这些人,到了这时候,都喜欢直呼其名,倒也没人觉得不对劲。 Li Yan red also nothing discontented, the nod said with a smile: „ Naturally, everyone's goal is to develop together. 李彦红也没什么不满,点头笑道:“当然,大家的目的都是为了共同发展。 our sweep takes care of oneself, the Internet industry, cannot develop this situation in Huaxia. 敝扫自珍,互联网产业,在华夏也发展不到这个地步。 The collision of thought that the produced spark, can make us light the advance the bugle, making the Internet industry welcome the new world. ” 思维的碰撞,产生的火花,才能让我们点燃前进的号角,让互联网产业迎来新的天地。” I spoke frankly!” “那我就直言不讳了!” Li Dong really does not have the preparation to be polite, the Li Yan red voice falls, Li Dong said: That words that „ just Masahiko spoke red, to me, are not worth a red cent! 李东是真的没准备客气,李彦红话音落下,李东就道:“刚刚彦红说的那番话,对我而言,一文不值! The misdirection is very heavy, is very easy to make everyone has the misunderstanding, can say, hundred degrees celsius makes the search, makes the e-commerce, that is the thorough layman! ” 误导性很重,很容易让大家产生误解,可以说,百度做搜索可以,做电子商务,那就是彻底的门外汉!” Field next makes noise, many people look to Li Yan hong. 场下一阵喧闹,不少人都看向李彦红。 Li Yan hong has not spoken , to continue to wait for Li Dong to speak. 李彦红却是没说话,继续等待李东发言。 Li Dong sincere say/way: „ Actually from the beginning, I think that Tokuhiko red speech subject had the problem. 李东正色道:“其实从一开始,我就觉得彦红的演讲主题出现了问题。 does c2c lead the e-commerce? c2c引领电子商务? Future main trend or c2c commerce? 未来的主要趋势还是c2c商务? Is Yan red you really to make the market to understand? 彦红你真的做过市场了解吗? You three years ago, spoke this saying, no one refuted, yet now, this was the old almanac! 你在三年前,说这话,没人反驳,可如今,这是老黄历了! The present e-commerce, no longer is c2c for the king, the rate of increment of b2c business, is above everyone's imagination! 如今的电子商务,不再是c2c为王,b2c业务的增长率,超乎所有人的想象! The e-commerce, solely is not sole c2c, now walks what are more is the path of both union. 电子商务,不单单是单一的c2c,现在走的更多的还是两者结合的路子。 You understand truly, should know that is right. 你真正了解一下,应该知道才对。 Also Taobao or the distant place, are walk both union the path, must quickly, we who the distant place walks have arrived at the o2o domain. 无论是淘宝还是远方,都是走两者结合的路子,远方走的还要更快一点,我们已经走到了o2o领域。 But the net buys the market share of market, accounted for 100 from a few years ago c2c, occupied 80 by last year, by this year, the two phase difference is similar! 而网购市场的市场占有率,从前些年c2c占100,到去年占据80,到今年,二者相差仿佛! Occupied the net to buy market half of shares the b2c businesses, was disregarded by you? 占据了网购市场一半份额的b2c业务,就这么被你无视了? C2c in your mouth leads the e-commerce, talked nonsense simply! 你口中的c2c引领电子商务,简直就是扯淡! I do not know data analysis that the data appraisal how your team makes, how makes, may change into is I, such team, kicks out of the way immediately is right! 我不知道你的团队怎么做的数据评估,怎么做的数据分析,可换成是我,这样的团队,马上踢开才对! Your concept was extremely obsolete! 你的观念太过陈旧了! I said solely is not these, in your mouth the so-called net buys user's dependence to the search engine. 我说的不单单是这些,还有你口中所谓的网购用户对搜索引擎的依赖性。 You disregarded the brass tacks, Taobao shielded the service comprehensively, the distant place routed Taobao, did not represent Taobao on the real performance difference. 你无视了基本事实,淘宝全面屏蔽了服务,远方击溃淘宝,不代表淘宝就真的业绩差了。 I want to ask that horse Yun an issue, last year before you had not shielded hundred degrees celsius, after the present shields, does the performance have the wide difference? ” 我想问马昀一个问题,去年你们没屏蔽百度之前,和现在屏蔽之后,业绩有多大差别?” Although Li Dong is also stepping on Taobao, but horse Yun said with a smile: „ Last year, Taobao whole year volume of trade 43 billion over. 虽然李东也在踩淘宝,不过马昀还是笑道:“去年,淘宝全年交易额430亿出头。 This year, is only in the first half of the year, our volumes of trade achieved 50 billion. 今年,光是上半年,我们的交易额就达到了500亿。 But in the second half of the year, the promotion moon/month moves, this year the whole year, our volumes of trade should be able to break through 120 billion. 而下半年,促销月活动下来,今年全年,我们的交易额应该能突破1200亿。 The smooth words, could achieve last year three times. ” 顺利的话,也许能达到去年的三倍。” Li Dongwen said says with a smile: „ Yan is red, you can say, after Taobao shields hundred degrees celsius, to their business industry tremendous influence? 李东闻言笑道:“彦红,你能说,淘宝屏蔽百度之后对他们的业务产业多大影响吗? The net buys the user, regarded as important is not the so-called commercial activity! 网购用户,看重的不是所谓的商务活动! Their goals are very actually simple, is simple wants to go shopping, wants to buy is appropriate their thing. 他们的目的其实很简单,就是简简单单的想买东西,想买到合适他们的东西。 The price beautiful thing is inexpensive, the fidelity store of value, can take a bit faster, has the sufficient product to choose for them, homepage non- card, payment simple...... 价美物廉,保真保值,能快点拿到手上,有充足的产品供他们挑选,网页不卡,付款简单…… This is their goals! 这就是他们的目的! On your big, your e-commerce, with their what does/works? 你的高大上,你的电子商务,和他们何干? Your search engine does again good, cannot buy thing that wants, price high scary, logistics slow scary, who goes to your to go shopping? 你搜索引擎做的再好,买不到想要的东西,价格高的吓人,物流慢的吓人,谁去你那买东西? From the beginning, I do not favor have, does not have the prospect that your hundred degrees celsius does. 从一开始,我就不看好你们百度做的有啊,毫无前景可言。 You said that three years exceed Taobao, said that coarse, three years later, there is are also really living? 你说三年超越淘宝,说句难听的,三年后,有啊真的还活着吗? Also, you kept on proclaiming made the e-commerce not to make money, the goal was not to make money, fun you make the e-commerce to? 还有,你口口声声说做电子商务不为了赚钱,目的不是赚钱,那你们做电子商务难道就是为了好玩? I said frankly, I do business, to make money! 我直言不讳的说,我做生意,就是为了赚钱! I make money, the business can continue to do, can do is bigger, done is more perfect, has money to make our big data, goes to increase the band width to us, gives user better pinnacle experience. 我赚了钱,生意才能继续做下去,才能做的更大,做的更完美,才有钱去做我们的大数据,去给我们增加带宽,去给用户更好的极致体验。 You do not make money, do you have the thoughts to continue to make your so-called e-commerce? 你不赚钱,你还有心思继续做你所谓的电子商务吗? In the future, vainly hoped for, the change world, all these foundations, base on the enterprise to have the profit, the light burn money, the investor will not want! ” 未来,梦想,改变世界,这一切的基础,都是基于企业有盈利,光烧钱,连投资商也不会愿意!” Li Dong said these, Li Yan hong is still pondering, under the stage actually broke out an applause. 李东说完这些,李彦红还在沉思,台下却是响起了一片掌声。 horse Yun also received the microphone to say with a smile: „ For fun, Li Dong, although with me is the competitor, these words that but speaks today, I deeply is so. 马昀也接过话筒笑道:“说句玩笑话,李东虽然和我是竞争对手,可今天说的这番话,我深以为然。 Yan the understanding of the e-commerce, was extremely red superficial. 彦红对电子商务的理解,太过浅薄了。 You kept on proclaiming must be the e-commerce, in fact, you did not understand the e-commerce. 你口口声声说要做电商,实际上,你根本就不懂电商。 The foundation of e-commerce, is not the technology, is not your engine service, but is a user! 电商的基础,不是技术,也不是你的引擎服务,而是用户! Is based on the user, can obtain everyone's approval. 以用户为基础,才能获得大家的认可。 What you consider is hundred degrees celsius, is in your mouth that several tens of thousands of hundred degrees celsius Sellers, I want to ask one, your several tens of thousands of sellers, are even more than user, comes to see the joke except for putting out, what can also make? ” 你考虑的是百度,是你口中那数万家百度卖家,我就想问一句,你就算有数万家卖家,比用户还多,除了拿出来看笑话,还能做什么?” Li Yan hong on stage, has frowned at this moment. 台上的李彦红,此刻已经皱起了眉头。 To be honest, he indeed has dream that is the e-commerce. 说实话,他的确有做电商的梦。 But he and Li Dong, the horse sunlight two people maximum difference lies in a point, Li Yan hong is not the grassroots! 可他和李东、马昀两人最大的不同在于一点,李彦红不算草根! Yes, he is not the grassroots level, he succeeds is smoother than others, the things of some floors, he has not contacted. 是的,他算不上草根阶层,他成功来的比其他人要顺利,有些底层的东西,他没接触过。 horse Yundang the peddler, has stocked with goods at the back of the gunnysack, he can deeply understand, anything is the user need. 马昀当过小贩,背着麻袋去进过货,他能更深入地了解,到底什么才是用户需要的。 But Li Dong, his ancestors, has been at the floor stage, grassroots cannot again the grassroots. 而李东,他上辈子,也一直处于底层阶段,草根的不能再草根。 Moreover Li Dong has experienced, can understand that everyone needs anything. 而且李东经历过,也能理解大家需要什么。 Therefore, their e-commerce, the net buys the platform, more bases on this foundation, at least the user likes. 所以,他们的电子商务,网购平台,更多的是基于这个基础,起码用户喜欢。 But Li Yan hong, does not have this experience, in the middle of his team, few people have this experience. 而李彦红,却是没这个经历,他的团队当中,也很少有人有这个经历。 Finally, c2c plan of hundred degrees celsius, is only the empty talk. 最终,百度的c2c计划,也只是空谈罢了。
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