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„If...... I have seen?” “如果……我见过呢？” „...... Um?” “……嗯？” The front had the going home commerce to brush past with them. Should not expect such to reply, Xigua (watermelon) turns head to look at Ning Yi, slightly feeling doubts. 前方有归家的商贩与他们擦肩而过。应该是没有料到这样的回答,西瓜扭头看着宁毅,微感疑惑。 Ning Yi still led the way gradually, draws her hand to look: „20 years ago, on the day of gets married with Tan'er, took a stone to pound in the head, faints passed, waking up time, anything forgot. This matter, has said very early in the morning?” 宁毅依然缓步前行,拉着她的手看了看:“二十年前,就是跟檀儿成亲那天,被人拿了块石头砸在头上,晕过去了,醒来的时候,什么事都忘了。这个事情,一早就说过的吧？” „Um.” Xigua (watermelon) said, „I remember is named Xue Jin, hears for the first time, but also is thinking the future will lead you to go to revenge.” “嗯。”西瓜道,“我记得是个叫做薛进的,第一次听说的时候,还想着将来带你去寻仇。” „considers as finished, comes under attack beforehand Ning Liheng is silly bookworm, after coming under attack, hole that opens with great difficulty, others good.” “算了,挨打之前的宁立恒是个傻乎乎的书呆子,挨打之后才好不容易开的窍,记人家的好吧。” Xigua (watermelon) looks at him to smile: „Tan'er also said in secret, is really strange, before marrying you, has visited you twice, will select the affected over-literary style, after getting married, discovered that you have so many wicked idea, stuffy at heart, this called to do one -man show......” sees Ning Yi white/in vain her one eyes, said, „Um, you said the proper business, where has seen?” 西瓜看着他笑:“檀儿私下里也说,真是奇怪,嫁你之前还去看过你两次,就会点之乎者也,成亲之后才发现你有那么多鬼点子,都闷在心里,这叫闷骚……”见宁毅白她一眼,才道,“嗯,你说正事,在哪里见过？” Ning Yi takes back supercilious look smiled: „Said you possibly not to believe that my knocked down several days, beyond patrolling day, saw...... scene in another world, absent-minded, probably saw hundred years of history...... have not pinched me, said you possibly did not believe that but you first listened to be good, my silly bookworm, straightens out suddenly, you did not find it strange, through the ages beyond so many patrolling day story, manor Shengxiao the dream confused the butterfly, I saw in this world another possibility, had strangely what.” 宁毅收回白眼笑了笑:“说出来你可能不信,我被打晕的那几天,神游天外,看到了……另外一个世界上的景象,恍恍惚惚的,像是看到了过百年的历史……你别捏我,说了你可能不信,但你先听好不好,我一个傻书呆,突然开了窍,你就不觉得奇怪啊,古往今来那么多神游天外的故事,庄生晓梦迷蝴蝶,我看到这世上另外一种可能,有什么奇怪的。” Xigua (watermelon) look already some, helpless, smiled ill-humoredly: „You then said that that world how?” 西瓜的神色已经有些无奈了,没好气地笑:“那你接着说,那个世界怎么了？” „Said to present after 1000, our here has not developed to become natural sciences of system to study......” “说是到了如今的一千年以后,咱们这里还是没有发展出成系统的格物之学来……” „That these 1000 person was dying Ah?” “那这一千年的人都是死的啊？” „Cannot such say, the profound studies system of Confucianist after our dynasty, had arrived in the absolute dominant position, they ‚people may’ the spirit displays thoroughly, the rulers and ministers father performs his duties as a father and son those, made one set of status rule to the under the heavens person. When without foreign enemy their interior self consistent method, had the foreign enemy they to assimilate the foreign enemy, therefore over the following 1000 years, the dynasty change and analysis and synthesis, Science will not need to appear, everyone can also live on. Then...... to you have said Europe, now very miserable that side, poor, then changes the abnormality to pass, first studying of development natural sciences......” “也不能这么说,儒家的玄学体系在过了咱们这个朝代后,走到了绝对的统治地位上,他们把‘民可’的精神发挥得更加深入,君君臣臣父父子子,给天下人做了一整套的身份规则。没有外敌时他们内部自洽,有外敌了他们同化外敌,所以接下来1000年,朝代更替、分分合合,格物学不用出现,大家也能活得将就。然后……跟你说过的欧罗巴洲,现在很惨的那边,穷则变变则通,首先将格物之学发展起来了……” „...... Looked like the opening of Zhu's storytelling.” Xigua (watermelon) curls the lip, „why we passed in 1000 unable to develop Science to come again.” “……像竹记说书的开头了。”西瓜撇了撇嘴,“凭什么我们就再过一千年都发展不出格物学来啊。” „Uh......” Ning Yi pondered, „for the time being thinks that us the day passed too well, although common people also painstakingly, but half times, can still provide for meat who a troop had a high and respected position to come, after without pressure of survival, these meat like studying the profound studies, studied the philosophy, cared to and wrong, cultivating the behavior was more tasteful. But the European that side condition is worse than us, often deceased person, therefore is on the other hand more practical, picks a rule to use this point rule. Therefore we care to the whole the fantasy, but they can relatively many focusing...... be not necessarily right in the detail, for the time being feels like this.” “呃……”宁毅想了想,“姑且就认为我们这边日子过得太好了,虽然百姓也苦,但半数的时候,仍然可以供养出一大群养尊处优的肉食者来,没有了生存的压力之后,这些肉食者更喜欢研究玄学,研究哲学,更加在乎对和错,做人更讲究一些。但欧洲那边状况比我们差,动不动就死人,所以相对来说更加务实,捡着一点规律就得利用起这一点规律。所以我们更加在乎对整体的幻想而他们能够相对多的着眼于细部……不一定对,姑且就这样觉得吧。” „Said the proper business.” Ning Yi shrugged, „no matter in any case what kind of, Science is they invents now. After 1000, what was in power on our lands was foreign clan regime, a native of Manchuria, boasted that oneself is today's Jin people descendant...... you do not smile, on such skillful......” “说正事。”宁毅摊了摊手,“反正不管怎么样,现在格物学是他们发明的了。一千年以后,在咱们这片土地上掌权的是个外族政权,满洲人,跟人吹嘘自己是今天金人的后裔……你别笑,就这么巧……” „Good, after 1000, made these Jin people result in under the heavens eventually.” Xigua (watermelon) bears the complaint to his no creativity behavior, „you then said.” “好,一千年后终究让这些金人得了天下了。”西瓜忍住对他这种无创意行为的控诉,“你接着说。” „A native of Manchuria stops all foreign contact, although does not have Science, but the Confucianist rules the art to progress day by day, they thought that oneself is on Heavenly Dynasty the country, crosses very well. However the European came, is harnessing the firm ship advantage artillery, takes the flintlock. Must snatch the thing, must do business, is compelling this Qing opening port, protects their interests. From the beginning everyone mutually curious, without saying to hit, but doing business slowly, had the friction......” “满洲人闭关锁国,虽然没有格物学,但儒家统治艺术蒸蒸日上,他们觉得自己是天朝上国,过得挺好的。但是欧洲人来了,驾着坚船利炮,拿着火枪。要来抢东西,要来做生意,逼着这个清朝开放口岸,保护他们的利益。一开始大家相互都好奇,没说要打起来,但慢慢的做生意,就有了摩擦……” „This book cannot write, writes them to know where you then must make anything...... to have oneself wrote the villain......” “这个书是不能写,写了他们就知道你接下来要做什么了……哪有把自己写成反派的……” Ning Yi her eyes, decide no longer to pay attention to her interruption white/in vain: „European firearm is fierce, the Qing dynasty also thought that oneself is on Heavenly Dynasty the country, then Qing hierarch, was a queen mother, is called Cixi —— not to relate —— saying that with Zhou Pei hit hits, our Qing dynasty declared war with entire under the heavens. Then this dozen, everyone discovered finally, on Heavenly Dynasty country already is the fish meat on block, tens of thousands armies, several hundred thousand armies, even/including others several thousand people of armies could not be victorious.” 宁毅白她一眼,决定不再理会她的打断:“欧洲人火器厉害,满清也觉得自己是天朝上国,当时的清朝掌权者,是个太后,叫做慈禧——跟周佩没关系——说打就打,咱们满清就跟整个天下宣战。然后这一打,大家终于发现,天朝上国已经是砧板上的鱼肉,几万的军队,几十万的军队,连人家几千人的部队都打不过了。” „The international community, the backwardness must come under attack, once cannot be victorious, the domestic good thing, to be carved up with this and that excuse by the enemy, starting from that time, the entire China fell into to...... by the condition that in many countries including Europe invaded one after another carve up one after another, gold and silver was plundered, population to be slaughtered, cultural relic to be robbed, house to be burnt down, has continued...... for dozens over a hundred years......” “国际社会,落后就要挨打,一旦打不过,国内的好东西,就会被敌人以这样那样的借口瓜分,从那个时候开始,整个中国就陷入到……被包括欧洲在内的许多国家轮番侵略轮番瓜分的状况里,金银被掠夺、人口被屠杀、文物被抢走、房子被烧掉,一直持续……几十上百年……” Ning Yi at this point, words already becomes slow. Xigua (watermelon) thinks from the beginning own Husband is cracking a joke, hears here actually to invest unavoidably, twists the brow: „Nonsense...... Wu Dynasty was also hit by Jin Nation like this, this less than ten years, came, the condition that even before, over a hundred years have come under attack are not many, has bad, will not study! Even if produces this gunpowder cannon from the beginning, Liheng you still only spent for more than ten years!” 宁毅说到这里,话语已经变得缓慢起来。西瓜一开始以为自家夫君在开玩笑,听到这里却不免投入了进来,拧起眉头:“胡说……武朝也是被金国这样打,这不十多年,也就过来了,就算以前,上百年一直挨打的状况也不多吧,跟人有差,不会学的吗！就算从头造这火药大炮,立恒你也只花了十多年！” Ning Yi faint smiled: „The backwardness of Qing dynasty, first naturally was the backwardness of Science, but this was only the representation, a more thorough issue, already is the person and at that time backwardness —— Confucianism of culture starting from the present, developed in 1000, it formed a more reliable net in the interior, constrained the thought of person, it constrained the person hand foot from the each aspects of life, work and public relations. Must defeat the European, natural sciences develops is better than to be good them, but your thought structure is not suitable to make natural sciences, you are others also to do, you cannot catch up with your enemy forever...... the flatter melon, I sold to them the thing today, is the such reason, does not change the thought that they will be slower than forever me......” 宁毅微微笑了笑:“满清的落后,首先当然是格物学的落后,但这只是表象,更加深入的问题,已经是人和当时文化的落后——儒学从眼下开始,又发展了一千年,它在内部结成更加牢固的网,压抑人的思维,它从生活、工作、社交的各个方方面面拖住人的手脚。要打败欧洲人,格物发展得比他们好就行了,可你的思维结构不适合做格物,你做人家也做,你永远也追不上你的敌人……阿瓜,我今天把东西卖给他们所有人,也是这样的原因,不改变思维,他们永远会比我慢一步……” he inhales a breath of air: „Returned to the Qing dynasty to come up, came under attack, could not catch up, can the Qing dynasty also knew to change, how many but change? The flatter melon, a human society general trend is, any inherent system will maintain its original feature as far as possible, although came under attack must adjust, but changed many, people would favored sufficiently on the line. Therefore from the beginning, Emperor branches out a department in the cabinet, good, we study the West, to study natural sciences, to study them to produce the flintlock cannon, with this department, protects oneself. This behavior is called ‚westernization movement’.” 他吸了一口气:“回到满清上去,挨打了,追不上,满清也知道要变,但是要变多少呢？阿瓜,人类社会一个普遍趋势是,任何固有系统都会尽量维持它的本来面目,虽然挨打了要调整,但改多少,人们总会倾向于够用就行。所以在一开始,皇帝在内阁里分出一个部门,好,我们学西方、学格物、学他们造火枪大炮,用这个部门,来保护自己。这个行为叫做‘洋务运动’。” Xigua (watermelon) pinched his palm: „You also give the such disgusting name......” 西瓜捏了他的手掌一下:“你还取个这么恶心的名字……” „‚Westernization movement’ where disgusting...... considers as finished, the westernization movement is in Imperial Court branches out a department to change, either studies the man-made flintlock cannon, either buys the flintlock cannon, takes the flintlock cannon, practices the so-called recruit. But then they discovered, is not good, the soldier also has the issue, the officer also has the issue, the country continues to take a beating, cedes territory, indemnity with the European 17-18 small countries, kneels in the underground dozens years. Everyone discovered, yeah, the westernization movement is not good, that must, entire Imperial Court probably change changeable......” “‘洋务运动’哪里恶心了……算了,洋务运动是朝廷里分出一个部门来进行改变,要么学人造火枪大炮,要么花钱跟人买火枪大炮,也拿着火枪大炮,练所谓的新兵。但接下来他们就发现,也不行,兵也有问题,官也有问题,国家继续挨揍,跟欧洲17-18个小国家割地、赔款,跪在地下几十年。大家发现,哎,洋务运动也不行,那就要更加多变一点,整个朝廷都要变……” „Then Qing dynasty already was the quick 300 years of countries, the system ran amuck extremely fat corrupt, a reform of department was not good, must conduct the bottom-up reform political reform. Everyone thought that was not over the past 300 years good with the courage and uprightness that the Confucianism system castrated the person unceasingly, the people must awaken, must to the following bitter Haha many advantage and position, must make officials kinder, system pure brightness, therefore was the reform political reform.” “当时的满清已经是快三百年的国家了,体系臃肿腐败横行,一个部门的改革不行,就要进行从上到下的维新变法。大家觉得过去300年用儒学体系不断阉割人的血性也不行,民众也要觉醒,要给下面的苦哈哈多一点好处和地位,要让官员更亲切、体系更清明,所以接下来是维新变法。” „No matter but made into what appearance, 300 years of feudal countries, are difficult to change. Before took the person of advantage not to make concessions, the internal contradictions intensified, the person of appeal and management political reform was defeated finally. Since defeated, that solution the issue, still knelt outside is hit, then the political reform does not pass, must walk the watch the intense path...... everyone to start to study was saying, is equal, cannot have the Qing dynasty, cannot have Imperial Court, cannot have Emperor......” “但不管被打成什么样子,三百年的封建国家,都是积重难返。以前拿着好处的人不愿意退让,内部矛盾加剧,呼吁和主持变法的人最终被打败了。既然败了,那就解决不了问题,在外头仍然跪着被人打,那么变法不通,就要走更激烈的路子了……大家开始学着说,要平等,不能有满清了,不能有朝廷了,不能有皇帝了……” „This, the civil strife started, the person of rebellion starts to appear, the warlord starts to appear, everyone must overthrow Emperor, must appeal to the equality, must open the people wisdom, to give the civil rights, to pay great attention to the livelihood of the people...... this step by step, is getting more and more intense, from was hit for the first time over the past dozens years, they overthrow Emperor, hoping the matter can improve.” “就这样,内乱开始了,造反的人开始出现,军阀开始出现,大家要推翻皇帝,要呼吁平等,要开启民智、要给予民权、要注重民生……这样一步一步的,越来越激烈,距离第一次被打过去几十年,他们推翻皇帝,希望事情能够变好。” Xigua (watermelon) inhales a breath of air: „In your book killed Emperor, the total quickly changes was good......” 西瓜吸了一口气:“你这书里杀了皇帝,总快变好了吧……” Ning Yi is smiling: „Yes, seems like...... the epoch-making magnificent feat, the condition on society has certain improvement, then had the warlord of influence, thinks, when Emperor. After this warlord was overthrown, the following talent gave up this idea, the old warlord, turns into the new warlord, the appeal about equality has been in progress in the society, people already starts to realize that the issue of person is the fundamental issue, the issue of culture is the fundamental issue, therefore in that case, many people proposed wants thoroughly discards some old Confucianism thoughts, establishes newly, can with the study of necessary thinking mode natural sciences......” 宁毅笑着:“是啊,看起来……开天辟地的壮举,社会上的状况有一定的好转,然后有了势力的军阀,就又想当皇帝。这种军阀被推翻之后,接下来的人才放弃了这个想法,旧的军阀,变成新的军阀,在社会上关于平等的呼吁一直在进行,人们已经开始意识到人的问题是根本的问题,文化的问题是根本的问题,所以在那种情况下,很多人都提出要彻底的放弃旧有的儒学思维,建立新的,能够跟格物之学配套的思维方式……” „In the entire process, they still came under attack unceasingly, the new warlord could not solve the problem, to abandonment of past culture insufficiently thorough, could not solve the problem. The new pattern has been fermenting, has the leader of thought to form the advanced parties slowly, to resist the foreign enemy, massive elite class composition government and composition army, abandon the past animosity as far as possible, joint operation, at this time, sea that side native of Japan already, in the unceasing war carves up becomes powerful, even wants to rule the entire China......” “在整个过程里,他们仍然不断挨打,新的军阀解决不了问题,对过去文化的抛弃不够彻底,解决不了问题。新的格局一直在酝酿,有思想的领导者慢慢的结成先进的党派,为了抵御外敌,大量的精英阶层组成政府、组成军队,尽可能地摒弃前嫌,共同作战,这个时候,海那边的东瀛人已经在不断的战争瓜分中变得强大,甚至想要统治整个中华……” „chī, Japanese dwarf, your story......” “嘁,倭人矮子,你这故事……” Xigua (watermelon) sent out the sound, soon after puts out a hand to knock by Ning Yi in the head. 西瓜发出声音,随后被宁毅伸手在头上敲了一下。 Government that „...... the elite class composes, later is still not able to change Chinese several thousand years of being difficult to change, because in their thought that also has a large part is old. After being an official and is authorized, they are accustomed to are oneself consider, when the country is getting more and more weak, this cake time getting smaller, everyone wants to be inevitably oneself fishes, officer big fishing are more, officer small fishing of little, perhaps they want to live from the beginning many compared with the common people of starving to death, but gradually, they discovered that the surrounding person is doing this, other companions think this matter excusable time, everyone starts to fish competitively......” “……精英阶层组成的政府,之后仍然无法改变中华几千年的积重难返,因为他们的思想中,还有很大一部分是旧的。当了官、有了权以后,他们习惯于为自己着想,当国家越来越虚弱,这块蛋糕越来越小的时候,大家都不可避免地想要为自己捞一点,官大的捞多一些,官小的捞少点,他们一开始也许只是想比饿死的百姓活得好些,但慢慢的,他们发现周围的人都在这样做,其它同伴都认为这种事情情有可原的时候,大家就争先恐后地开始捞……” „...... The soldier's rations and pay were carved up, send to the recruits of army to want starving to death half on the road, the enemy from the foreign aggression, the bureaucrat pulls out spatially from the interior, commodity deficient people have no means to make a living...... this time entire China already in the entire world at present kneels for 100 years, strengthen time and time again, insufficiently, innovation time and time again, insufficient...... that perhaps needs to renounce, a more radical innovation!” “……军饷被瓜分,送去军队的壮丁在路上就要饿死一半,敌人从外部侵略,官僚从内部掏空,物资贫乏民不聊生……这个时候整个中华已经在全世界的眼前跪了一百年,一次一次的变强,不够,一次一次的革新,不够……那也许就需要更加决绝、更加彻底的革新！” „...... The westernization movement in the Qing dynasty of being difficult to change, was progressive. Reform political reform at westernization movement, still further. The old warlord substitutes Emperor, goes a step further again. The new warlord replaces the old warlord, proceeded one step. Having the ideal had some aspiration actually also unavoidable selfishness elite classes to replace the new warlord, here went forward one step. What can proceed again is? The flatter melon, you ambitious, have the aspiration, Chen Shanjun is ambitious, has the aspiration, but your can subordinate, how many such people discover to come? The little selfishness is worth forgiving, we used the strict military discipline to conduct the restraint good...... to proceed again, how to walk?” “……洋务运动之于积重难返的满清,是进步。维新变法之于洋务运动,更进一步。旧军阀替代皇帝,再进一步。新军阀替代旧军阀,又往前走了一步。到有理想有抱负却也难免有些私心的精英阶层替代了新军阀,这里又前进一步。可再往前走是什么呢？阿瓜,你有理想、有抱负,陈善钧有理想,有抱负,可你们手下,能找出几个这样的人来呢？一点点的私心都值得原谅,我们用严厉的军规进行约束就行了……再往前走,怎么走？” „Perhaps at that time, was that time said, this is not again good. Therefore, shouted loudly all people being equal, to appear for the system of people truly finally, joined the person of that system, will give up part of selfishness of truly, believes that truly unselfish —— was not the high official believes for that the people took responsibility, but is they really believes, they in all people with the world were equal, they are an official, was only the difference of division of labor, on had the person to clean out a latrine probably, having the person must be an official same......” “那个时候,也许是那个时代说,再这样不行了。所以,真正高呼人人平等、一切为了人民的体系才终于出现了,加入那个体系的人,会真正的放弃一部分的私心,会真正的相信大公无私——不是什么大官为民做主的那种相信,而是他们真的会相信,他们跟世界上所有的人是平等的,他们当了官,只是分工的不一样,就好像有人要掏粪,有人要当官一样……” „Will really have such?” Xigua (watermelon) said. “真会有这样的吗？”西瓜道。 „Naturally 100% are not this, but that equal degree, is unthinkable. Because of after 100 years of humiliation and failure, saw the entire country thorough did not have the dignity, among them most people, realized finally...... this did not have the outlet. These people actually have many are the elites, they can also go in the regime that elite composes, they think for oneself, everyone can also understand. However they saw, is only the effort of that degree, could not save this way of the world.” “当然不会百分之百是这样,但其中那种平等的程度,是匪夷所思的。因为经过了一百年的屈辱、失败,看见整个国家彻底的没有尊严,他们当中大部分的人,终于意识到……不这样是没有出路的了。这些人其实也有许多是精英,他们原本也可以进去那个精英组成的政体,他们为自己多想一想,原本大家也都可以理解。但是他们都看到了,只是那种程度的努力,拯救不了这个世道。” „They urge and transform oneself unceasingly, they can put in order trust that the army entire government is from the heart to serve the people. At that time, Huaxia several thousand years, even can say that the human society in history, the most incorruptible army, was born there...... can also say, they were compelled.” “他们不断地督促和改造自己,他们会整支部队整个政府发自内心的相信为人民服务。那个时候,华夏上上下下几千年,甚至可以说人类社会有史以来,最清廉的一支部队,才在那里诞生……也可以说,他们是被逼出来的。” In the middle of the Ning Yi words has the expectation and admiration, Xigua (watermelon) looks at him. Regarding the entire story, she naturally does not have too deep substitution feeling, but regarding the nearby man, she can actually look, the opposite party not to speak the mood of story to say these. This lets her slightly feeling doubts, cannot help but followed to think. 宁毅的话语当中有着憧憬和敬佩,西瓜看着他。对于整个故事,她自然没有太深的代入感,但对于身边的男人,她却能够看出来,对方并非以讲故事的心情在说着这些。这让她微感疑惑,也不由得跟着多想了许多。 „That...... following?” “那……接下来呢？”
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