Chapter 115 Luo non- king 第115章洛氏不王 Mo Di gui sits in defending the concealed room, suddenly smiled, said to Luo Huaichen: „The thought of Mohist school was prosperous.” 墨翟跪坐在守藏室之中,突然笑了起来,对洛怀臣说道:“墨家的思想要兴盛了。” The Luo Huaichen smile said: „ Is tycoon, this is I asks you to have the Mohist school to arrive at the Luo Country reason, here is the paradise of Mohist school. 洛怀臣微笑道:“是的巨子,这就是我请您带墨家来到洛国的原因,这里是墨家的乐土。 Your thought so magnificent, world person so poverty-stricken, everyone is hoping for your appearance. ” 您的思想是如此的瑰丽,天下人是如此的困苦,所有人都在期盼着您的出现。” Mo Di also said: „Hou said, the Mohists will sacrifice, the thought of Mohist school is even prosperous, actually could not avoid the destiny of withering away.” 墨翟又说道:“洛侯说,墨者会牺牲,墨家的思想即便兴盛,却避免不了消亡的命运。” Luo Huaichen said with a smile: „ Is not, great of universal love is the present is unable to realize, perhaps the complete Mohist school will vanish, but the spirit, ancient book and culture Mohist school will spread forever. 洛怀臣还是笑着说道:“是也不是,兼爱的伟大是现在所无法实现的,或许完整的墨家会消失,但墨家的精神、典籍、文化会永远流传下去。 The technology of Mohist school will transform the world, the thought of Mohist school will make people intelligent, making the great wisdom continue, this is one of significances Luo has. 墨家的技术会改造天下,墨家的思想会使人聪慧,让伟大的智慧延续,这是洛氏存在的意义之一。 Until livelihood collapse destroys, time finally end. 直到日月崩毁,时间终末。 , The thought of universal love will return in the world finally on the 1st, the world Datong will certainly arrive. ” 终有一日,兼爱的思想会重新回到天下之中,天下大同一定会到来的。” Luo Chang and Mo Di's short conversation, seemingly is only Luo Chang is consoling Mo Di, then Mo Di firms up oneself will. 洛长和墨翟短短的交谈,貌似只是洛长在劝解墨翟,然后墨翟坚定自己的意志。 But just like in years past the dialogue of father and Confucius, the dialogue of Luo Ci and Confucius was ordinary, Confucianist after that started greatly rise. 但正如昔年老子和孔子的对话,洛辞和孔子的对话一般,儒家从那之后就开始了大兴。 Mo Di understands, Luo Chang explicit told him, Luo liked the Mohist school thought that prepared to carry out the world it. 墨翟明白,洛长是明确的告诉他,洛氏非常喜欢墨家思想,准备将它推行到天下。 Even if the monarchies in various nations do not accept temporarily, but Luo Country has been raising existence of Mohists, looks like many Confucian scholars in academy to be the same. 即便列国的君主暂时不接受,但是洛国会一直养着墨者的存在,就像是学宫中的很多儒生一般。 When Mo Di remains to defend in the concealed room improves the Mohist school theory, the Mohists soon discover the Mohist school thought the development speed by far compared with imagination in the rapidness. 在墨翟留在守藏室之中完善墨家理论之时,墨者们很快就发现墨家思想的发展速度远远比想象中的快。 The theory extremely heavy logical inference of Mohist school, only logical inference extremely weak is a day of will and bright ghost, but these two were led into the uncrowned king in Luo Country automatically. 墨家的学说极重逻辑推理,唯一逻辑推理极弱的就是天志和明鬼,但这两篇在洛国之中被自动带入素王。 Confucianists and Mohists two quick started „in a friendly way” comparing notes, one day three debated, then in the Mohist school theory certain self-contradictory places were picked. 儒墨两家很快就开始了“友好”的切磋,一日三辩,然后墨家理论之中某些自相矛盾的地方就被摘了出来。 For example emphasized the subjective initiative of person, but behind also said that all of person were, the person who the day institute decided does not have the power of choice. 比如说强调人的主观能动性,但是后面又说人的一切都是天所决定的,人没有选择的权力。 Luo Country ducal family is very high regarding attention of Mohist school, not these political thought that but pays attention, regarding ducal family, are these that most does not lack. 洛国公室对于墨家的关注度很高,但关注的并不是那些政治上的思想,对于公室而言,最不缺的就是这些。 Especially the Mohist school universal love did not attack this idealization the extreme political thinking, Luo Country ducal family, although respected, but did not approve. 尤其是墨家兼爱非攻这种理想化到了极点的政治思想,洛国公室虽然倾佩,但并不认可。 „ The Mohist school biggest buried treasure is thinks of the say/way and the exquisite advantage debate, particularly exquisite advantage, if Luo can research in thorough detail unceasingly, can constantly create the new weapon. “墨家最大的宝藏是思辩之道和工巧之利,尤其是工巧之利,若是洛氏能够不断精研,就能不断地创造出新的武器。 All Xia defeats Mán and Yi, not only because of All Xia unity, because also All Xia has a more advanced civilization. 诸夏之所以战胜蛮夷,不仅仅是因为诸夏更加的团结,还因为诸夏有着更先进的文明。 When the bronzeware just appeared, Mán and Yi can also with a All Xia war, the smelting technology of bronzeware even more is after however mature, Mán and Yi more and more collapses at the first blow. 当青铜器刚刚出现的时候,蛮夷还能够与诸夏一战,但是青铜器的冶炼技术愈发成熟之后,蛮夷就越来越不堪一击。 This is the function of weapon, if Luo can consistently maintain advanced of weapon, can always lead All Xia to go forward, maintains lasting of family while convenient. ” 这就是武器的作用,如果洛氏能够始终保持武器的先进,就能够始终引领着诸夏前进,顺便维护家族的存续。” In Luo Country academy, the Confucianist scholar had no longer debated with the Mohist school, what replaces it is scholars of Taoism, because Confucianists and Mohists two kick up a racket found, the contradictions between both sides are not fundamental. 洛国学宫之中,儒家学子已经不再与墨家辩论,取而代之的是道家的士子,因为儒墨两家吵着吵着就发现,双方之间的矛盾不是根本性的。 However Taoism and Mohist school and theory have the fundamental conflict, Mohist school most theories establish in the day are in the foundations of universal love, and from this infers the entire Mohist school the theoretical system. 但是道家和墨家和理论有根本性的冲突,墨家绝大多数的理论都建立在天是兼爱的基础上,并且由此推导出整个墨家的理论体系。 However Taoism simple four characters, „Heaven and Earth is unkind!” 但是道家简简单单四个字,“天地不仁！” Routs the foundation of Mohist school theory directly, the follow-up all inferences become the castle in the air. 直接将墨家理论的基础击溃,后续的所有推断都成为了空中楼阁。 Therefore Yang Sheng asked in Mo Di, Mo Di is defending in the concealed room to look at the new and old two editions of Tao Te Ching, said with a smile: „Places in Luo Country, actually forgets the uncrowned king, Mohist school discuss technique is really white learn/study.” 于是阳胜问道于墨翟,墨翟正在守藏室之中看道德经的新旧两版,笑道:“身处洛国之中,却忘记素王,墨家辩术真是白学。” Yang Sheng then confidently say/way: „ In years past the father preached the dao in academy, the uncrowned king such as the day, the uncrowned king is also unkind? 阳胜便信心满满道:“昔年老子在学宫之中讲道,素王如天,难道素王也是不仁的吗？ 800 years of Luo Country monarchy venerates the say/way of uncrowned king, is all kind, had the prosperity of Luo Country, several Various nations People, only have Luo Country to can be called enjoy a good and prosperous life. 八百年洛国君主尊崇素王之道,无一不仁,才有了洛国的兴盛,数遍列国子民,唯有洛国能称得上安居乐业。 If the uncrowned king is unkind, the Luo Country monarchy looks on the people to destroy, looks on Bang Zhou to destroy, will have the present scene? ” 若是素王不仁,洛国君主坐视子民覆亡,坐视邦周覆亡,难道还会有现在的景象吗？” The Taoism juniors are four characters, „Luo non- king!” 道家子弟又是四个字,“洛氏不王！” „ Yang Sheng, the theory of Mohist school as if uncrowned king and day compound, but also asked you to know, the king was Son of Heaven, the child of Heaven, was not uncrowned king's son, the uncrowned king to the high highest sage, but his love was limited. “阳胜君,墨家的理论似乎将素王和天并列,但还请您知晓,王是天子,上天之子,不是素王之子,素王至高至圣,但他的爱是有限的。 Do not say that the monarchy in various nations, moves to the east after the royal family, even Bang Zhou Son of Heaven, element Royal Capital is not willing to pay attention, so long as does not collude with four foreign, the uncrowned king only spreads his brilliance in Luo Country. 不要说列国的君主,从王室东迁之后,甚至就连邦周的天子,素王都不愿意关注,只要不勾结四夷,素王只在洛国之中播撒他的光辉。 You must use the benevolent of uncrowned king, monarchy who keeps in balance these non- universal love? 难道您要用素王的仁,来制衡那些不兼爱的君主吗？ Perhaps the uncrowned king does not want. ” 恐怕素王并不愿意。” „Bang!” “轰！” In entire academy, the Confucian scholar, is a Mohists, was shaken by this four characters simply in same place, is the innumerable calls, the sounds of innumerable question. 整个学宫之中,无论是儒生,还是墨者,都被这简简单单地四个字震在了原地,紧接着就是无数的呼声,无数的疑问之声。 Luo non- king! 洛氏不王！ This is the Taoism scholars to Mohists's response, the uncrowned king such as the day, but the uncrowned king is not the day. 这是道家士子对墨者的回应,素王如天,但素王不是天。 Even really such as in the poetry praised like that the Spiritual God of uncrowned king really in the space, element Wang Ren, the uncrowned king was enjoys punishes good wickedly, but the descendants non- king of uncrowned king. 即便真如诗歌之中所赞美的那般,素王的神灵真的在天上,素王仁,素王是赏善罚恶的,但素王的子孙不王。 Has the uncrowned king interfered with the matter of the world? 难道素王就会一直干涉人间之事吗？ For 800 years, the uncrowned king is blessing Bang Zhou Mandate of Heaven, but this blessing, is over time getting more and more weak. 八百年来,素王庇佑着邦周的天命,但是这种庇佑随着时间的流逝,越来越弱。 The All Xia war, Zhou Luo defeats, who can forget? 诸夏大战,周洛战败,谁能忘记呢？ Bang Zhou Mandate of Heaven creakies is the consensus of the world person, but also no one knows now, Mandate of Heaven will fall on where. 邦周天命摇摇欲坠是天下人的共识,只不过现在还无人知晓,天命将会落在何处。 But not in Luo Country! 但不在洛国！ Taoism thinks oneself spoke a truth simply, but this natural truth, was actually neglected. 道家认为自己只是简简单单地讲了一个道理,但这个理所当然的道理,却一直以来都被人所忽视。 However to the Mohist school is incomparable shock, because these Mohists suddenly discovered, so long as Luo called the king, the ideal of Mohist school can come true. 但是对于墨家来说是无比的震撼,因为这些墨者突然发现,只要洛氏称王,墨家的理想就能实现。 However Luo non- king. 但是洛氏不王。 King Wu once must pass to the uncrowned king the throne, but the uncrowned king said that he does not have Mandate of Heaven, cannot call the king, how the Luo Country all previous generations monarch regardless of the royal family, loyal king Shi, the world people thinks that this is loyal. 武王曾经要将王位传给素王,但是素王说他没有天命,不能称王,洛国历代国君不论王室如何,都尽忠王事,天下人都认为这是忠诚。 However Luo Country does not think that this is simply loyal, King Wu received order of Heaven, the uncrowned king received Mandate of Heaven from King Wu hand, therefore he will bless Bang Zhou. 但是洛国不认为这是简简单单地忠诚,武王承天受命,素王从武王手中接过天命,所以他才会庇佑邦周。 Also without and other Yang Sheng spoke, a Mohists then loses the sound said: „ Can the uncrowned king not love the All Xia people? 还没等阳胜说话,一个墨者便失声道:“难道素王会不爱诸夏的子民吗？ If the uncrowned king does not pay attention to the human world, who makes the monarchy discrete? ” 若是素王不关注人间,谁来使君主谨慎呢？” This Confucian scholars recover, in heart secretly thought/passage: „Taoism this group of people usually look peacefully, makes a move to be big, usually the benevolent of speaking Confucianist, has not thought that now also came one to the Mohist school directly ruthlessly.” 这一下儒生们回过神来,心中暗道:“道家这群人平时看着安安静静,一出手就是大的,平时暗讽儒家的仁,现在没想到直接给墨家也来了一下狠的。” However this hitting a person when he is down opportunity cannot certainly miss, „ naturally with the ritual, the uncrowned king had left behind sufficiently prosperously absolutely the years wisdom to the human world. 但是这种落井下石的机会当然不能错过,“当然是用礼,素王已经给人间留下了足以昌盛万万年的智慧。 The uncrowned king is hopes that the person can strive constantly for self-improvement, rather than everything prayed to him, the monarchy of dark violent drives away him, the wicked official then puts to death him. ” 素王是希望人能够自强不息的,而不是事事都向他祈祷,昏暴的君主就驱赶他,奸恶的臣子便诛杀他。” ...... …… Any stable political power tallies, if the political power illogical aspect that the current time the political logic comprised are too many, will present the wave crafty cloud Jue political situation, after the pre-Qin time ended, „the Luo non- king” becomes a floor logic of politics, during the millenniums of antiquity and medieval, to the period that the Luo non- king entertained suspicions, the politics always gradually moves toward the confusion.- «Politics Logic Testing» 任何稳定的政权都是由许多符合当前时代的政治逻辑所组成的,如果政权不合逻辑的方面太多,就会呈现出波诡云谲的政治局面,在先秦时代结束之后,“洛氏不王”成为了一条政治的底层逻辑,在上古和中古的千年之中,对洛氏不王抱有怀疑的时期,政治总是逐渐走向混乱。-《政治运作逻辑考》 Has not eaten meal, everyone first looked that finished eating the food I to stay up late to write today, will not have known any situation tomorrow. 还没吃饭,大家先看吧,吃完饭我今天熬夜多写点,明天还不知道啥情况。 ( This chapter ends) (本章完)