WIIC :: Volume #9

#106: Jointly encircles 【Third】


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Su Jun yu to next step the impression is also very fuzzy. 苏君宇对“下一步”的印象也很模糊。 In he truly does not like the model very much, if said that proposed a theory arguing down, as if was extremely also remote. 他确实不是很喜欢内模型,但是若是说提出个理论将之驳倒,似乎也太过遥远了一些。 Or he is also only some fuzzy ideas. 或者说,他也只是有一些模糊的想法罢了。 In the model disobeyed the inverse operation direct feel the place extremely. Indeed, just like king Qi said, the arithmetic has comfortably, not by interference of artificial will. However, calculates that family/home during innumerable explorations, tries to find out to the feeling of digital and graph, actually not without significance. 内模型违反算家直观感受的地方太过了。诚然,正如王崎所说,算学自有自在,不受人为意志的干涉。但是,算家在无数的探索之中,摸索出的“对数字与图形的感觉”,却绝非毫无意义。 In fact, thing that in the model, violates the person direct feel, was really many. 实际上,内模型里,违反人直观感受的东西,实在是太多了。 For example, deletes the circulation. 比如说,删除循环。 This is overwhelming majorities leaves the matter that member sect are unable to accept. 这是绝大多数离宗修士都无法接受的事情。 Circulates this type of thing, in the nature was really common. 循环这种东西,在自然界内实在是太常见了。 If nothing else, all merit laws, must conduct the sidereal revolution circulation. 别的不说,所有的功法,都必须进行周天循环的。 Without this sidereal revolution circulates, all merit laws are impossible to realize. 没有这个周天循环,所有的功法都不可能实现。 Inconsiderately calculates pointed out refers to andinfinite loop ”, truly is very dreadful matter. But this actually points to the person of clan main road foundation, but has not spread to the nature, 不周之算所指出的“自我指涉”与“无限循环”,确实是非常可怕的事情。但这却只是直指人族大道根基的,而尚未蔓延到自然界中, In order to bypass inconsiderately calculates, but deleted the circulation, is violating the normal cognition. 为了绕过不周之算,而删除了循环,就是在违反正常的认知。 It is not able to accept. 无法接受。 Even structure class gathers completely idea, is not unacceptable. 甚至连“可构造类就是全部集合”的想法,也是无法接受的。 Su Jun yu even sneered really to have even/including sect the stink slightly. 苏君宇对此甚至稍稍冷笑了一下果然还是有连宗的臭味。 In the whole of set theory, only then can construct collection? 集合论的整体之中,只有“可构造集”? This was extremely optimistic a point? 这位是否太过乐观了一点? Only pitifully, under the existing system, this point may not be attested to falsity. 只可惜,在现有体系之下,这一点是不可被证伪的。 Therefore, he must find other strengths. 为此,他必须要找到其他的力量。 Thinks of here, he looked that to oneself spirit news box was lying down that letter. 想到这里,他看向了自己灵讯箱内躺着的那一封来函。 Comes from even/including sect free and unfettered buddhist Bach's the correspondence. 来自于连宗逍遥梵巴赫的信函。 Buddhist Bach. 梵巴赫。 This name, once made to member sect scared. 这个名字,一度让离宗修士胆寒。 Calculates that Monarch disdains in looks for the person weakness attack specially. He likes improving his theory, making the opposite party impregnable. 算君是不屑于专门找人弱点攻击的。他更喜欢完善自身的理论,让对方无懈可击。 After all, king, always in defensive. They do not have the object who many needs to attack. 毕竟,君王,总是处于“守势”的。他们没有多少需要攻伐的对象。 But buddhist Bach this kind of person meeting. 但梵巴赫这一类人会。 From this correspondence, he understood outside present situation. 从这一封信函之中,他了解到了外面的现状。 Regarding the structure class of sea thunderclap honorable person, even/including sect also refuses to accept. 对于海霆真人的可构造类,连宗也是拒绝接受的的。 But the structure class built above with the multiplicative axiom. But the multiplicative axiom, will happen to initiate the minute/share of ball paradox. 可构造类与选择公理搭上边了。而选择公理,正好会引发分球悖论。 even/including sect is must start to the multiplicative axiom. Even sympathizes with member sea who thunderclap honorable person even/including sect, still wants to limit the range of multiplicative axiom function. 连宗是一定要对选择公理下手的。即使是最同情海霆真人的连宗修士,也想要限制选择公理作用的范围。 This is completely the truth. 这全部都是实话。 Buddhist Bach has not hidden oneself intention. 梵巴赫没有隐藏自己的意图。 But at the same time, he also pointed out another point. 但与此同时,他也指出了另外一点。 In a system, introduction infinite is stronger, the thing that then can prove are more. 在一个体系之中,引入的“无穷”越强,那么可以证明的东西就越多。 Un, this is one very not continually sect view. 嗯,这是一个很不“连宗”的说法。 But this speculates from the proof process in model. 但这就是从内模型的证明过程之中推测出来的。 Also count including may not Ta Keak big base number 也就是包括“不可达基数”在内的“大基数” The advantage of big base number, there are. 大基数的好处,也有很多。 For example, introduces the big base number to prove the real number set that directly any may construct will not initiate the minute/share of ball paradox, and does not need to cancel the selection functions. 比如说,引入大基数可以直接证明任何可构造的实数集合不会引发分球悖论,并且不需要取消选择函数。 For example, introduces completeness that the big base number can prove the second-order arithmetic. 比如说,引入大基数可以证明二阶算术的完备性。 This was past king Qi first-order is complete after the proof on the path of bogging down. 这是当年王崎在证明一阶完备之后就停滞不前的道路。 But the only issue is...... 但唯一的问题是…… Big base number and constructivity axiom is mutually contradictory. “大基数”与构造性公理是相互矛盾的。 Regarding the expensive/noble school of thought that overthrowing the structure class is inevitable. That that king Qi conceives, can carry out the imaginary entities of all arithmetic, the root of arithmetic, not possible to realize in the natural justice system to sect......” “对于贵学派来说,推翻可构造类是必然的。王崎所设想的那个,可以执行所有算学的假想实体,算学的根源,根本就不可能在离宗的天理体系之内实现……” „But if introduces may not Ta Keak count, twists the natural justice system, is boundless......” “但若是引入强不可达基数,扭曲天理体系,便是海阔天空……” By, proved security that cannot Ta Keak count the evolution, is card Mingji sends several rounds securities......” “是以,证明不可达基数谱系的安全性,便是证明基派几轮的安全性……” Su Jun yu reads this correspondence, as if inside has what charm to be the same. 苏君宇看着这一封信函,仿佛内里有什么魔力一样。 This is nothing?” Su Jun yu finally is also only the sigh: With the aid to the hand of sect, dissident who eliminates even/including sect?” “这算什么?”苏君宇最终也只是叹息:“借助离宗的手,来清除连宗的异己吗?” No, to the boundary of sect Helian sect, in this flash, was fuzzy? 不,离宗和连宗的界限,在这一瞬间,也模糊了吧? Su Jun yu is thinking like this. 苏君宇这样想着。 Perhaps heresy is more hateful than the heathen, not only and is applicable to the Shintoism/Divine Dao study domain. 或许“异端比异教徒更可恨”,并不仅仅适用于神道学领域。 Regarding the sect, introduces the natural justice system continually, introduces the multiplicative axiom, disrupts continually the sea thunderclap of sect perfect how much universe prospect, is more hateful than time most member even/including sect. 对于连宗来说,引入天理体系,引入选择公理,扰乱连宗完美几何宇宙图景的海霆,比大多数连宗修士都要可恨许多倍。 To sect? 离宗又何尝不是呢? The song courtyard sends with the common people national champion and machine old difference, king Qi and Feng Luoyi difference...... 歌庭派和苍生国手、机老的分歧,王崎和冯落衣的分歧…… Not...... 不不不…… Su Jun yu threw off such idea instantaneously. 苏君宇瞬间甩掉了这样的想法。 king Qi has not at least made the choice. 至少王崎还没有做出选择哩。 Su Jun yu sighed like this. 苏君宇这样叹息。 Really is a mess. 果然是一个烂摊子。 Before several days, Su Jun yu had forwarded to king Qi the partial content of this letter/believes. 早在数日之前,苏君宇就已经将这封信的部分内容转给了王崎。 He is still waiting for king Qi the reply and direction now. 他现在还在等待王崎的回复与指点。 But, said that said like this, but, something, possibly have the answer the arithmetic to have after all comfortably.” Su Jun yu lies down, self-ridiculed saying. “不过,说是这样说,但是,有些事情,可能早就有答案了吧毕竟算学自有自在。”苏君宇躺下,自嘲的说道。 These 1-2 years, the base faction is compiling with single-hearted devotion «Calculated», constructs own system. Regarding this controversy, disregards, or feigns death. 这1-2,基派就是在专心编写《原算》,构建自己的体系。对于这一场论战,就只是无视,或者装死。 But after this time by point root foot ? 但这一次被人点中根脚之后呢? Even if sends the arithmetic for the base, he will also study cannot Ta Keak count. 哪怕是为了基派算学,他也会研究不可达基数。 Buddhist Bach's open intrigue. 梵巴赫的阳谋。 Su Jun yu even can imagine, an invisible net, is forming, this standing net, has to the ingredient of sect, there is even/including sect an ingredient. But its goal, only has a sea thunderclap. 苏君宇甚至可以想象到,一张无形的网,正在结成,这一张网,有离宗的成分,也有连宗的成分。而它的目标,就只有一个海霆。 It forms in view of structure class. 它是针对“可构造类”而结成的。 Is only, loathes infinitely member even/including sect, proposes this, put together a point?” “只是,厌恶‘无限’的连宗修士,来提出这个,是不是太拼了一点?” Su Jun yu wants to smile. However thinks sea thunderclap honorable person, he could not smile. 苏君宇很想笑。但是一想到海霆真人,他又笑不出来了。 How to say...... 怎么说呢…… This type to sect ancestor's unprecedented union, to encircle anything continually unexpectedly...... 这种离宗连宗史无前例的联合,居然只是为了围剿什么…… Insufficient vigor, insufficient vigor......” “不够劲,不够劲啊……” At this moment, two correspondence appeared. 就在这时,两封信函先后出现。 One is king Qi writing in reply. 一封是王崎的回函。 Another is...... 另一封则是…… Old wind?” Su Jun yu Yang-yang eyebrow. “老风?”苏君宇扬扬眉毛。 In recent years, his relation with thin Xiaofeng may not have to come that closely. 最近几年,他跟薄笑风的联系可没有那么紧密了来着。 He harbors curiously, selected this correspondence. 他怀着好奇,点开了这一封信函。 Finally, sighed gently. 最终,也只是轻轻一叹。 Then, he reads king Qi the correspondence again. 然后,他再看王崎的信函。 Then, he stares slightly: Lying trough!” 然后,他微微一愣:“卧槽!” .......................................................................................... ……………………………………………………………………………… I do not blow with you, big nephew.” thin Xiaofeng is talking and laughing merrily with own child nephew generation: In the past I with that Su Jun yu, very iron!” “我不是跟你吹啊,大侄子。”薄笑风正在和自己的子侄辈谈笑风生:“当年我跟那个苏君宇啊,很铁!” „!” “哇!” Fierce! Nine uncles have such fierce friend unexpectedly!” “厉害啊!九叔居然还有这么厉害的朋友!” Master Su! That is the material of future free and unfettered!” “苏宗师啊!那可是未来的逍遥之材啊!” Base sends the member! Do nine uncle nine uncles, how to the base you send the arithmetic to understand?” “基派成员!九叔九叔,你对基派算学了解得怎样啊?” Two years, Su Jun yu reputation also even more was recently resounding. 最近两年,苏君宇的声名也越发响亮了。 If, two years ago Su Jun yu is also only the footnote of king Qi legend, then now, he also becomes a side legend character. 如果说,两年前的苏君宇还只是王崎一路传奇的注脚,那么现在,他也成为一方传说人物了。 Let me tell you, I wrote a letter with Su Jun yu few days ago, can make him help our family/home solve the difficult problem.” thin Xiaofeng is striking one's chest to say. “我跟你说,前些日子我跟苏君宇写一封信,就能让他帮我们家解决一下难题。”薄笑风拍着胸脯说道。 The juniors somewhat have the doubts: Uncle, this blows excessively...... Su Jun yu, can have the conflict with several free and unfettered member?” 小辈有些有疑惑:“叔啊,这是不是吹过头了……苏君宇,会和好几位逍遥修士起冲突?” thin Xiaofeng some are not happy: You wait to look!” 薄笑风有些不高兴了:“你们就等着看吧!” Saying, he stood, leaves the great hall, arrives at the backyard. 说着,他就站了起来,离开大堂,来到后院。 The lonesome and quiet place, there is a side building. 幽静之处,有一间厢房。 thin Xiaofeng pushes the door to enter. Inside the smoke cloud winds around, all sorts fumigate with incense preciously are burning. These are the most precious medicines with rapt attention. 薄笑风推门而入。内里烟云缭绕,种种名贵熏香在燃烧。这些都是最宝贵的凝神药物。 thin Xiaoya sits on the table, being lost in thought. Her condition is very strange, seems the Yuan god, but has not bridged over that step, instead is fuzzy, is actually not the typical half Yuan god. 薄筱雅坐在桌子上,怔怔的出神。她的状态很奇怪,好似元神,但并没有跨过“那一步”,反而模模糊糊,却又不是典型的半步元神。 This is fuzzy arithmetic one manifestation, is the result of...... overstating. 这算是“模糊算学”的一种体现,也是……走火入魔的结果。 Younger sister, today how?” “妹子啊,今天怎么样了?” thin Xiaoya smiles: Good, the merit body also has restraining. In brief, does not leave for three years, may reply the old look......” 薄筱雅笑了笑:“挺好的,功体又有收敛。总之,不出三年,就可回复旧观……” But said here, her heavy sigh: But, but also is only gold/metal pill. This ridge did not step over, does not have the future.” 但说道这里,她沉沉叹息:“但是,还只是金丹而已。这一道坎不迈过,就没有未来。” Does not need from opening together also very well.” Smiles the eye of wind bead chaotic revolutions thinly: You think to look that king Qi you told initially this mathematics problem, perhaps hasn't he himself cared?” “不用自开一道也挺好啊。”薄笑风眼珠子乱转:“你想想看啊,当初王崎跟你说这个算题,恐怕他自己都没有怎么在意吧?” Foundation operation naturally is a more important matter. I...... the talent am not as good.” thin Xiaoya shakes the head: Can run into king Qi when the becoming a lay priest way initially, obtained this completely different arithmetic from his there, is I hits the great good fortune. Why must does he care?” “基础算理自然是更为要紧的事情。我……天赋稍逊而已。”薄筱雅摇头:“能在初入道途之时遇到王崎,又从他那里得到了这一门完全不同的算学,已经是我命中大幸了。何须他在意呢?” But your next step is to with king Zaki's master, the common people national champion, the recent sect leader, sea thunderclap honorable person to resist newly continually!” thin Xiaofeng shakes the head. “但是你下一步是要与王崎的师父,苍生国手,还有最近的新连宗领头人,海霆真人去对抗啊!”薄笑风摇头。 thin Xiaoya since understood „after fuzzy mathematics, has studied diligently for more than ten years. 薄筱雅自从理解了“模糊数学”之后,已经钻研了十余年。 However, recently, she encountered the huge problem. 但是,最近,她遇到了天大的麻烦。 The axiomization of fuzzy mathematics, not possible in Yoshimoto gathers realizes. 模糊数学的公理化,不可能在良基集合内实现。 After refers to shut off, the axiom of fuzzy mathematics, is impossible to exist. 而当自我指涉被切断之后,模糊数学的公理,也不可能存在。 The thin thin bamboo is standard good because of the Yuan deification important pass. Because Feng Luoyi and Chen along break refers to the exploration by, the axiomization foundation of her arithmetic theory, took away. 薄筱雅正好在元神化的关口。正是因为冯落衣与陈由嘉沿着“断自指”的探索,她算学理论的公理化根基,被抽掉了。 thin Xiaofeng has not thought completely, thin Xiaoya is doing the research of such edge, unexpectedly was also scratched by the complementary waves of ten thousand method civil wars, nearly said that the way cuts off. 薄笑风也是完全没有想到,薄筱雅做着这样边缘的研究,居然也被万法门内战的余波擦到,险些道途断绝。 thin Xiaofeng somewhat fears. 薄笑风有些恐惧。 Faces directly ten thousand method cores that this free progression scholar collides, what appearance now is? 直面这种逍遥级数学者碰撞的万法门核心,现在又是一个什么样子呢? It is said that Bo some people of organizations, has tried to put down some barriers for thin Xiaoya. 据说,薄家已经有人组织起来,试图为薄筱雅扫平部分障碍了。 Also is...... joins some invisible union. 也就是……加入“某个隐形的联合”。 Encircles to the sect ancestor's unprecedented cooperation continually. 离宗连宗史无前例的合作围剿。 But thin Xiaofeng felt, this is insufficient. 但薄笑风觉得,这还不够。 He sighed: „Do I find the person to help again?” 他叹息:“我还是再去找找人帮忙吧?” thin Xiaoya smiled: Elder Brother, whom couldn't you find? king Qi never care about this domain. If looks for him, he must study from the beginning. Who can also help you?” 薄筱雅笑了:“哥哥啊,你找得到谁?王崎自己从不在意这个领域。若是找他,他也得从头研究。还有谁能帮你呢?” thin Xiaofeng clenches teeth: I with Su Jun yu was also the long-standing friendship......” 薄笑风咬牙:“我跟苏君宇也是老交情了……” thin Xiaoya the complexion is strange: Fights. Isn't the friendship?” 薄筱雅面色古怪:“只是打架。不算交情吧?” Calculates how not to calculate.” Smiles the air flue thinly: His performance recent, but is very fierce. Perhaps, he can refer to a new mentality to you!” “算,怎么不算。”薄笑风道:“他最近几年的表现,可很是厉害。或许,他可以给你指一个新的思路啊!”
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