king Qi understands, to two scientists, paper sometimes even compared with speaking face-to-face better exchange way. 王崎明白,对于两个科学家来说,论文有时甚至是比面谈更好的交流方式。 The paper has the form, has the model. Even inside each few words have its standard. Simply speaking, this paper actually and an eight-legged essay nature, in language rules stipulated that died. 论文有格式,有范式。甚至里面的每一句话都有它的规范。简单来说,这论文其实和八股文一个性质,语言上条条框框的都规定死了。 But regarding understanding person, this type of thing read to be carefree, understood that was simple. 而对于懂得的人来说,这种东西读起来才是畅快,理解起来才是简单。 If some, when elaborated own theory came the poetic sentiment analogy, that is inappropriate. 要是某位在阐述自己理论的时候来了个诗意的比喻,那才是让人受不了。 Moreover, the paper exchange also advantage, that can effectively avoid in two communicator's turning into the exchange on fists and feet wisdom exchanges. 另外,论文交流还有一个好处,那就是可以有效的避免两个交流者将智慧上的交流变成拳脚上的交流。 Now, king Qi is in Round, but path Xiaoqian person in indistinct palace. The paper and king who Zaki's thought even if she writes contradicts completely, king Sakiya is impossible to separate the spatial distant sword to cut. 现在,王崎身在朗德,而路小茜人在缥缈宫。就算她写的论文和王崎的思想完全相悖,王崎也不可能隔空遥遥一剑斩去。 When read the paper, king Qixian retrieved in the records depository of immortal pledge conveniently. Unexpectedly, this paper, has not as if published. 在读论文的时候,王崎先顺手在仙盟的档案库里检索了一番。出乎意料的是,这篇论文,似乎根本就没有发表。 „Hasn't published? This world also has ‚pre- printed book’ unexpectedly approach?” “未发表？这个世界居然还有‘预印本’的做法？” The pre- printed book refers to the research results of research worker not publishing in the official publication, but stemming from exchanges the goal with the peer voluntarily first in academic conference or through scientific research paper and technical that report and other articles Internet issue. 预印本是指科研工作者的研究成果还未在正式出版物上发表,而出于和同行交流目的自愿先在学术会议上或通过互联网发布的科研论文、科技报告等文章。 With the progress of communication, the scientist on Earth does not satisfy the publication speed of scientific journal, thinks that the scientific journal slowed their exchange. However, now on Earth most authoritarian „IRRT system”, this system also many depends on the periodical. Does not pass through the periodical high, the credibility of paper not necessarily. 随着通讯的进步,地球上的科学家早就不满足于学术期刊的发表速度,认为学术期刊拖慢了他们的交流。但是,现在地球上最具权威的“同行评议制度”,这个制度也多是依托期刊的。不经过期刊,论文的可信度就未必高。 However the publication speed of paper periodical, was too slow. 但是纸质期刊的出版速度,还是太慢了。 Therefore, the scholar of Earth, caused the so-called pre- printed book. The pre- printed book is not considered as that the official publication, generally was not protected. Because has not undergone the deliberation of peer, therefore the credibility of pre- printed book will not be higher than the periodical literature. 因此,地球的学者,就弄出了所谓的预印本。预印本不算是正式发表,一般也不受到保护。由于没有经过同行的审议,所以预印本的可信度也不会高于期刊文献。 The pre- printed book biggest advantage, is „speed” 预印本最大的优势,就是“速度” But, in this advantage should be will only appear to be right on Earth. The academic system and Earth of divine land are entirely different. Because the technical black box is easier to form, ten thousand immortal illusion early paper periodical one step responsibility that undertook the exchange. 可是,这中优势应该是只在地球上才会显现出来才对。神州的学术制度和地球截然不同。由于科技黑箱更容易形成,万仙幻境已经早纸质期刊一步承担了交流的职责。 In ten thousand immortal illusion. All papers after verify and do not have the logical error simply to upload. After the upload, anybody can read through the payment. 万仙幻境里面。所有论文都是经过简单审核、没有逻辑错误就可以上传的。上传之后,任何人都能够通过付费进行阅读。 The records depository of immortal pledge, itself had both arxiv the characteristics of electronic pre- printed book archive is established by the Los Alamos National Laboratories. 仙盟的档案库,本身就兼具了arxiv由美国洛斯阿拉莫斯国家实验室建立的电子预印本文献库的特点。 „Felt strange why can exchange in secret?” “奇了怪了,为什么非要私底下交流？” king Qi the one breath read off path Xiaoqian the letter and paper. Then shakes the head: „So that's how it is. The multi- world decoherence...... this Senior Sister path believes this unexpectedly? No wonder she does not publish, first took and others discusses.” 王崎一口气读完了路小茜的来信和论文。然后摇摇头:“原来如此啊。多世界退相干……这位路师姐居然是相信这个的吗？难怪她都不发表,就先拿出来和别人讨论了。” About „wave function why collapse” the discussion, looks like the significance is not actually big at the present. Arrived the degree, this argument has become an air-to-air mouth artillery that is separated from the objective material although this mouth artillery logic is very strict, moreover establishes in the mathematical foundation. However. Regardless how to argue, cannot deny that they lack the fact support, to lack the result of experimental verification. 关于“波函数为什么塌缩”的讨论,在现在看来其实意义不大。很到程度上,这种争论已经成了一种脱离客观物质的空对空嘴炮虽然这个嘴炮逻辑很严密,而且是建立在数学基础上的。但是。无论怎么争论,也不能否认它们缺少事实支撑、缺少实验验证的结果。 Moreover, regardless of you hold a that explanation, does not affect the scientist to understand following, the theory of deeper level. This is most important. 而且,无论你是持那一种解释,都不影响科学家理解后续的、更深层次的理论。这才是最重要的。 Regarding the person of road small alizarin red level, this argument also can only say that probably is one type „leisure”. 对于路小茜这个层次的人来说,这种争论大概也只能说是一种“休闲”吧。 No, she said „busy”, is about not the pleasantries. She now really busy. Her master broken principle honorable person, heard that is the severest member. She wants to snatch a little leisure from the busy schedules, it is estimated that difficulty. 不,她所说的“忙”,大约也不是什么客套话。她现在是真的忙吧。她的师父破理真人,听说乃是最严厉的修士。她想要忙里偷闲,估计还有段困难。 Especially this paper also has some conflicts with the mainstream idea of indistinct palace. 尤其是这篇论文还和缥缈宫的主流思想有一些冲突。 „Seeming like, no one is easy.” king Qi shakes the head. Then takes pen in hand to reply in writing. “看起来,谁都不容易啊。”王崎摇摇头。然后提笔回信。 With matter that the peer exchanges, he will certainly not reject. 和同行交流的事情,他当然不会拒绝。 Moreover sometimes, some „corner” discussion, can polish „the spark of thought”, lights some „great inspiration”! 而且有些时候,一些“边边角角”的讨论,也能够擦亮“思想的火花”,点燃一些“伟大的灵感”嘛！ .................................................................................................................................................................. ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… When the king Sakiyo new pen pal exchanges, ten thousand methods ten thousand li (0.5 km) away, are fermenting a more crashing ideological collision. 在王崎与新笔友交流的时候,万里之外的万法门,正在酝酿一场更加激烈的思想碰撞。 New, old, two thought. 新的,还有旧的,两种思想。 In ten thousand method secrets the place of training, a member is exchanging intensely. The before person of participation training compares, were many several times. A month ago different. Now participates in this training has been restricted below gold/metal pill period incessantly. 在万法门秘密的集训之地,一众修士正在紧张的交流着。参与集训的人比之前多了几倍。和一个月之前不同。现在参与这场集训的已经不止限于金丹期以下了。 Disciple who now here participates in the training, many are the Yuan god periods. 现在在这里参与集训的弟子,多为元神期。 Qi does not dare to mix secretly. Right now Su Jun yu neglected to eat and sleep simply, day and night continuous thinking that „is incomplete” issue. 项琪早就不敢秘密混进来了。这下子苏君宇干脆就废寝忘食了,日夜不休的思索那“不全不完备”的问题。 thin Xiaofeng always thought that own old friend soon overstated. He selects younger sister's shoulder: „Younger sister, always thought that...... this boy some were not normal recently.” 薄笑风总觉得自己的这个老朋友都快要走火入魔了。他点点自己妹妹的肩膀:“妹子,总觉得……最近这小子有些不正常啊。” „Not normal...... should not have......” thin Xiaoya the expression to have some non- natures: „Now was was not saying everywhere. Calculates that the Lord idea has the issue......” “不正常……应该没有吧……”薄筱雅表情有一些不自然:“现在不是到处都在说。算主的想法有问题吗……” Calculates that the Lord idea has the issue. Perhaps the mentality of complete and determination issue contains errors. 算主的想法有问题。或许完备性、判定性问题的思路有误。 The Yuan god period member who these came in afterward many are the young member of positive rise, the talent is very high, moreover underwent a long time learn/study compared with these Junior Sister gold/metal pill of time Junior Brother, has a deeper accumulation, is also deeper regarding the understanding of arithmetic. 那些后来进来的元神期修士们多是正值上升期的年轻修士,天分很高,而且比那些金丹期的师弟师妹们经过了更长时间的学习,有着更深厚的积累,对于算学的理解也更深。 In them, many people calculate that the Lord mentality had the suspicion. 他们中,有不少人都会算主的思路产生了怀疑。 However. „Arithmetic is incomplete, cannot be determined” this thought that was extremely astonishing. 但是。“算学是不完备的、不可判定的”这个念头,还是太过惊人了。 If proved to arithmetic system is incomplete, discovered the incomplete place of arithmetic, then in the arithmetic including sect concept is also mostly incomplete. To sect Helian the sect, is only the struggle and mentality struggle of idea. The arithmetic in their eye, but also is an arithmetic. 如果离宗证明了算学这个体系是不完备的,找出了算学的不完备之处,那么连宗观念之中的算学多半也是残缺的。离宗和连宗,只是理念之争、思路之争。他们眼中的算学,还都是一个算学。 After all, arithmetic thing, is in the world Bing's logic, is objective existence. On this day, also only has an arithmetic. 毕竟,算学这东西,本是天地内秉的逻辑,是客观存在的。这天底下,也只有一个算学。 Even to the sect, does not have the means to accept mostly so-called „is incomplete”. 就算是离宗,多半也没办法接受所谓的“不完备”。 However, the seed of suspicion was planted. 但是,怀疑的种子还是被种下了。 „How possibly...... the arithmetic how possibly is incomplete?” “怎么可能……算学怎么可能是不完备的呢？” thin Xiaofeng smiles reluctantly, in the tone brings anxiously. The Bo arithmetic hands down from generation to generation. To him, the arithmetic is the thing of thorough marrow, was almost a belief. 薄笑风勉强笑了笑,语气之中已经带着焦躁。薄家算学传家。对他来说,算学乃是深入骨髓的东西,几乎就是一个信仰了。 This is also here flustered reason. 这也是这里人心惶惶的原因。 Some many people guessed correctly anything indistinctly, but they cannot toward think with the deep layer. 有很多人都隐约猜到了什么,但是他们都不敢往跟深层去想。 thin Xiaoya shakes the head: „Elder Brother, your...... is not good. Really. The arithmetic is the main road obviously, does not reverse for you......” 薄筱雅晃晃脑袋:“哥,你这样……不大好。真的。算学乃是大道显化,不为你而逆转……” thin Xiaofeng interrupted thin Xiaoya the words crudely: „This is not...... this is not this issue. If the arithmetic is incomplete, what I can make? Path that we asked that what was also?” 薄笑风粗暴的打断了薄筱雅的话:“这不是……这不是这个问题啊。如果算学就是不完备的,那我又能够做什么？我们所求的道路,又是什么？” „Junior Brother thin, you did not feel, actually this can also be counted a good deed?” Approximately is the sound that thin Xiaofeng spoke is somewhat big, a pale young member inserted brother and sister's dialogue suddenly. “薄师弟,你不觉得,其实这也可以算作一件好事吗？”大约是薄笑风说话的声音有些大吧,一个面色苍白的青年修士突然插入了兄妹二人的对话。 thin Xiaofeng quickly salutes saying: „Senior Brother tall...... hasn't your body obstructed greatly?” 薄笑风急忙行礼道:“高师兄……你身子没有大碍了吧？” This person is ten thousand method previous generation's chief disciple tall Jiyang. He just steps into the boundary of Yuan god this year, was the first batch were selected into „training” the Yuan god period disciple. 此人正是万法门上一代的首席弟子高继扬。他是今年刚刚踏入元神之境的,也是第一批被选入“集训”的元神期弟子。 Just, this person perhaps is because perception some are too high. In several days before, as if thought of anything accidentally, in the brain the miraculous glow flashes. In that moment, his thought had the conflict with own supernatural power, causing him to spit blood at the scene. 只不过,此人或许是因为悟性有些太高。就在前几天的时候,似乎无意中想到了什么,脑中灵光一闪。只是就在那一刻,他的思想与自己的法力产生了冲突,导致他本人当场吐血。 „Obstructs greatly does not have actually.” tall Jiyang smiles: „I was adjust. That blood, put out in my chest to hold crazily. I want to understand. Why can't the arithmetic be incomplete? Why can't not be possible to determine? Also, calculates that Lord idea really to become true, to the arithmetic also not necessarily is the good deed.” “大碍倒是没有。”高继扬笑了笑:“我算是调整过来了。那一口血,也吐出了我胸中之痴执啊。我想明白了。算学凭什么不能是不完备的？凭什么不能是不可判定的？再说,算主的想法真的成真了,对算学也未必是好事。” thin Xiaofeng is at a loss for words. In fact, now no one can show that the arithmetic has the completeness and decidability. Calculates Lord, even if „believes”, still can only say that „are, and uses own resources and personal connection that thinks” to promote the proof of this proposition honestly. 薄笑风语塞。事实上,现在谁也没能证明算学具有完备性和可判定性。算主就算“相信”,也只能说“自己是这么认为的”,并且老老实实的利用自己的资源、人脉推动这个命题的证明。 „Was the good deed...... thin Xiaoya stares in a big way the eye to the arithmetic”, was very puzzled. “对算学是好事……”薄筱雅瞪大了眼睛,十分不解。 This type completely denied the thing of arithmetic foundation, regarding arithmetic meddlesome? 这种彻底否定了算学根基的东西,对于算学来说还是好事？ tall Jiyang smiles, asks: „Do you know the prime number infinite law?” 高继扬笑笑,问道:“你们知道素数无限律吗？” The prime number is infinite, in the theory of numbers of arithmetic, one of the most ancient propositions. The prime number speaks well of the number, no longer has other divisor aliquots besides one and it. Second, smallest prime number. Prime number's distribution with enlargement of digit, but is unceasingly sparse. A number is bigger, this number is the possibility of prime number is lower. When then, the digit is big enough, can this possibility turn into zero? Can once after exceeding some boundary, didn't have the prime number? 素数无限,算学之数论中,最为古老的命题之一。素数又称质数,除了一和它本身以外不再有其他的除数整除。二是最小的素数。素数本身的分布随着数字的增大而不断稀疏。一个数字越大,这个数是素数的可能性就越低。那么,当数字足够大的时候,这个可能性会不会变成零呢？会不会一旦超过某个界限之后,就再也不存在素数了呢？ Today's calculation family/home mostly knows, the prime number is actually infinite. They can very simple thinks through this issue. medieval calculates that the family/home has proven this issue. The number and natural number of prime number are equally many, is infinite, is one „the Aleph null”. 今天的算家大多都知晓,素数其实是无限的。他们可以很简单的想通这个问题。中古算家就已经证明过这个问题。素数的数目和自然数一样多,都是无限的,都是一个“阿列夫零”。 „If the prime number is not infinite, then today's ‚theory of numbers’, will not appear most probably. But other studying diligently this ‚number’ presents will not appear because of other mentalities, thought and tool that.” tall Jiyang said: „If the completeness and decidability were really shown, our ten thousand methods were nothing have the significance.” “如果说素数不是无限的话,那么今日的‘数论’,大半都不会出现。而其他因为钻研这个‘数’而出现的其他思路、思想、工具也不会出现。”高继扬道:“如果完备性、可判定性真的被证明,咱们万法门才是没有任何存在意义了。” „This is explained, we are going to touch in the arithmetic the final theorem.” Smiles the air flue thinly: „Senior Brother tall your view has the issue. For if continuing of ten thousand methods save, broke sought a thought that this put the cart before the horse.” “这正是说明,我们将要触及算学之中最终的定理啊。”薄笑风道:“高师兄你这说法有问题。若是为了万法门的续存,就断了求道的念头,这才是本末倒置。” Ten thousand methods, and even the entire now law immortal said that to arrive in that final „say/way”, therefore exists. 万法门,乃至整个今法仙道,都是为了抵达那个最终的“道”,所以才存在的。 tall Jiyang asked back: „Junior Brother thin, you thought that we do seem like already touches finally ’ the appearance now ‚?” 高继扬反问:“薄师弟,你觉得我们现在像是已经触及到‘最终’的样子吗？” thin Xiaofeng also wants to refute. But at this moment, loud and clear laughed to spread over the entire secret place. 薄笑风还欲反驳。可就在这时,一声洪亮的大笑传遍了整个秘地。 „I knew! I knew!! I knew!”( To be continued.) “我知道了！我知道了！啊哈哈哈哈！我知道了！”(未完待续。) ps: Third will certainly have, but about 1 : 00. ps:第三更一定会有的,只不过会在一点左右。 If cannot boil, invites to get up to look tomorrow morning again. The mobile phone user please visit http://m.piaotian.net 如果熬不住的话,诸位还请明天早上起来再看。手机用户请访问http://m.piaotian.net